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			September 14, 1996
 
			 Freddie, Laura, Terry and Jan
 
				
				Q: (L) Hello, and who do we have with us this evening? 
				A: Eommna
 
 Q: (L) And where are you transmitting from tonight?
 A: Cassiopaea
 
 Q: (L) We have several questions we’d like to get into tonight, and 
			the first one has to do with Terry’s health, which is a little 
			bit...
 (T) Flaky, to say the least!
 (L) I was going to select the 
			word fluctuating!
 A: Wheat germ.
 
 Q: (L) What else? Is there anything else? Is this something he needs 
			to add to his diet?
 A: Broccoli.
 
 Q: (L) What else?
 A: Boil, no baking or frying. Too low on the potassium and calcium 
			and maganese,
			causes mental and emotional reactions, which spur on physical 
			declines... Be sure to up the zinc intake.
 
 Q: (L) Any more, any further on this?
 A: Advice about sugar is faulty!
 
 Q: (L) OK, what is the best avenue for the sugar?
 (J) Oh, so he’s 
			not low sugar?
 A: Do not eliminate, regulate with natural intake... suggest cubes 
			if weakness 
			or lightheadedness appears.
 
 Q: (L) So, Terry is not hypoglycemic?
 A: Stop. “Hypoglycemia” is a “buzz word,” nothing more.
 
 Q: (L) So, they just named you hypoglycemic because they couldn’t 
			think of anything else!
 (L) Is there anything further for Terry, 
			that will help get him balanced and feeling better pretty quick?
 A: Be less sedentary!!!! Exercise builds energy reserve and speeds 
			toxin 
			elimination.
 
 Q: (T) I’m going to start my walking again, because when I worked at 
			Home Shopping, I had an hour for lunch, and I didn’t want it, 
			because I had no place to go, and nothing to do, I walked all around 
			that complex for an hour, I was doing two miles a night.
 (J) Ask 
			about the sleeping...
 (L) That’s all part of it...
 (T) It’s all 
			thrown off because I’m trying to treat something I don’t have...
 A: Sleep cycle will resolve itself.
 
 Q: (L) And are these things going to help the hemorrhoid problem?
 A: Of course! When one balances, one balances.
 
 Q: (T) Good, I can get back in balance. I’m trying to treat 
			something I don’t have. Which is just messing everything up even 
			worse.
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (T) Thank you very much. I appreciate all that information.
 (J) I 
			have a question. What is all that Nutrasweet doing to him?
 A: 
				Get rid of that! It is poison!!!
 
 Q: (T) No more Crystal Lite? It didn’t taste bad...
 (L) Back to the 
			RC!
 (T) No, no more RC. That’s too heavy. I’ll go back to 7up or 
			something.
 (J) 7up and water.
 (L) OK, while we’re on health 
			questions, is my swimming adequate thus far?
 A: So far so good. But... no slacking! We know when you slack, 
			Laura, and you 
			are only defeating your own purposes!
 
 Q: (L) Well I have not missed a single night, I want you to know. 
			And I have swam... until... yes, I have swam myself silly. It’s just 
			as you said, I swim myself silly, so cut me some slack here! I’m not 
			slacking!
 (T) Where’d those missing laps go?
 A: The past is also the present and the future, my dear!
 
 Q: (L) Is there anything I can do to accelerate the weight loss?
 A: Yes. Increase the exercise.
 
 Q: (L) God, I’m already swimming two hours!
 (J) What else can Laura 
			do?
 (T)
 Start walking...
 (L) I can’t walk, it hurts my hip too much....
 A: Decrease the food intake.
 
 Q: (L) I’m already living on two hard-boiled eggs and five stalks of 
			celery a day! How much lower can I go?
 A: You asked, did you not?? You did not ask if it was wise.
 
 Q: Well, would it be wise to decrease it any more?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (L) Well, at the rate I’m going...
 (J) How about quality as 
			opposed to quantity?
 (L) Yes. If I continue going at the rate I’m 
			going, will I accomplish my intention?
 A: It depends.
 
 Q: (L) It depends on what?
 A: When Arkady arrives.
 
 Q: (L) All right. You’re making me sweat, here!
 A: Good, that aids weight loss.
 
 Q: (T) Sweating’s good for you! Is there a place you can go for 
			steam?
 (L) I can get in the shower and do it...
 A: How about big green salads with leafy green vegetables as opposed 
			to eggs.
 
 Q: (L) Ok, we can handle that...
 A: 
				Increases metabolic rate with no fat.
 
 Q: (L) Ok, so you said it depends on when Ark will arrive, does that 
			mean you have a clue as to when that will be?
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (L) Well, are you going to tell me when that will be?
 A: Nope.
 A: (T) Of course they know when he’s going to get here!
 (L) God, I 
			feel like 
			I’ve got this huge weight pushing on me.
 (T) No, it’s not a weight. 
			You’re thinking of it as a weight...
 (F) Think of it as a goal!
 (T) 
			Yes, think of it as something you want...
 (F) That also increases 
			your metabolism.
 (T) Think of it positively, instead of negatively. 
			(Fred) People who are dieting think of it as dreadful...
 (L) I’m not 
			thinking of it that way, I’m just feeling like I’m under a lot of 
			pressure here.
 (T) No, you’re only under the pressure you’re putting 
			yourself under, and this is something that you want, so it shouldn’t 
			be pressure, it should be...
 (F) It should be incentive, turn it 
			around.
 (T) When I’m talking about walking, I’m not talking about 
			going out and walking all over the neighborhood.
 (L) I walk in the 
			pool.
 (T) Walk in the pool, swim in the pool, walk around the pool, 
			and then when you get out, and you get dried off and you get 
			changed, go out and walk around the outside of the pool a couple of 
			times. Increase it, every couple of days. Do like, five walks around 
			the pool for two days, and then make it six. And then make it seven, 
			and increase it until you can walk around the pool comfortably. Then 
			start walking farther and farther...
 (J) As the weight comes off, 
			it’ll be easier to walk.
 (T) As it is another exercise method, it’ll 
			also help your back. But you can’t do it all at once. Our friend 
			Larry up in Tallahassee, he doesn’t have the pain in his shoulder, 
			he doesn’t have the pain in his back, the hip is ok again.
 (L) If I 
			do the leafy green vegetables, continue the swimming and do the 
			walking, whatever, will... I mean, you guys obviously have sent this 
			person into my life, so you must have a clue as to how things are 
			going to turn out, right? You do have a clue, don’t you? Are you 
			going to tell me?
 A: Open.
 
 Q: (L) Do I have time....?
 A: If you are dedicated, all will be well.
 
 Q: (L) Is that a promise?
 A: It is not necessary for us to promise anything... you are at the 
			controls.
 
 Q: (L) And if I manage to... what I’m trying to... Does anybody know 
			what I’m trying ask?
 (F) You’re trying to ask if your project will 
			be completed before Ark arrives.
 (T) And they’re trying to tell you 
			it will if you want it to be. You asked if that was a promise, and 
			they said they don’t have to promise anything. They’re telling you, 
			if you want it, then that’s what you’ll have. 
			And if you don’t want it, it won’t work. But, you’ve got to want it, 
			and you’ve 
			got to look at it as something you want, something you desire, not 
			as an evil thing, not in a negative light, but in a positive light. 
			Because this is something that you want.
 (F) Not as a burden, but as 
			a joyous opportunity.
 (T) This is what you’re all working toward. 
			(L) I’m just worried I don’t have enough time.
 (T) Time has nothing 
			to do with it.
 (L) Oh, all right...
 (T) There is no such thing as 
			time... You just keep doing it, and it’ll... If you keep doing it, 
			and you keep wanting it, and you keep doing it, it will do it.
 (L) 
			All right...
 (T) They’re not telling you, they’re not promising 
			anything, they’re just telling you, this is it, we’ll do it, if you 
			want it. But, if you don’t want it badly enough, it won’t happen. 
			(L) OK, switch gears. Can we switch gears now?
 (T) Yes.
 (L) 
			Everybody ready?
 (T) Yup!
 (J) Sure.
 (L) Ark would like to put this 
			book together with an opening chapter from you guys. Is this 
			something we can get into, or is this something we should wait to 
			get into, or if that’s how you want it done at all? Can you give us 
			some advice on this; we’ve already got a publisher who is very 
			interested in the whole thing, and he thinks that we ought to open 
			the whole story as a cosmic drama.
 A: You must meet with Arkady before you can effectively convey any 
			messages in a
			book.
 
 Q: (J) In other words, he has to be here before that process...
 (L) 
			To do the book... is that correct?
 (J) ... he has to be here for the 
			process...
 A: Not to “do the book,” just to do the project correctly. You see, 
			your
 communications on the “Internet,” “have served their purpose well,” 
			but the next chapter cannot begin until the communication levels are 
			at the next level.
 
 
				Q: (T) In other words, he’s got to be here. 
			You’ve done what you’re supposed to do... you found...(J) You’ve 
			met him, and you’ve built the foundation of a relationship on the 
			Internet. Now it has to go to the personal level.
 A: Remember, Arkady is not yet part of the conduit!!!
 
 Q: (L) So, what are we supposed to do for the next few months? Just 
			continue chit-chatting, continue building...
 A: What else can you do?
 
 Q: (L) Well, that’s about it, can you think of something else?
 A: You have communicated extensively with him, but, others have not, 
			and neither 
			have we, not directly, so to say.
 
 Q: (L) Is there something I can do to rectify it, I mean, is there 
			something I ought to do? Is there...
 (T) Just keep on doing!
 (L) 
			Give me a hint!
 (T) You’re doing it!
 (L) Ok, the other night, while 
			I was swimming, I had the thought come into my mind, as I was 
			swimming, that number one, not only am I doing exercise, but I am 
			generating a force field or energy vortex of some type while I’m 
			doing the swimming. Is this correct?
 A: Maybe.
 
 Q: (L) Now, you said something about a hundred laps a day. Getting 
			up to a hundred laps is a little difficult. I also had the thought 
			that a hundred days of swimming might be a clue. Is this correct?
 A: Maybe.
 
 Q: (J) They didn’t say no!
 (T) There you go! This is for you to 
			discover!
 (L) Well, I know, but it just came to me while I was 
			swimming around that it’s not so much that it... I mean, getting to 
			the hundred laps is a good plan, but...
 (T) Well, isn’t the swimming 
			in a circle the same as the spinning?
 (L) Yes, I mean , it’s...
 (J) 
			It would be, wouldn’t it?
 (T) Which none of us have been doing, so, 
			the spinning is important, the circular motion is important to the 
			whole thought process...
 (L) Well, I’ve been going around in 
			circles, man, like you wouldn’t believe, I’m doing up to doing like 
			40 or 50 laps a day.
 (J) That’s good!
 A: Slacker!!! Teehee!
 
 Q: (J) 50 laps a day is great! What are you talking about?
 (L) 
			Guys!!!!! I started out, I could only swim around twice without 
			dying!!
 (J) Laura, Laura, they’re teasing you!
 (T) Just think, the 
			swimming, starting the walking, will help the swimming!
 (L) All 
			right, I am motivated, guys, I’m telling you! When you guys go home, 
			I’m going to be out in the pool! No doubt about it!
 A: Mirth aids birth.
 
 Q: (T) Well, I’m here to tell you, until Larry got off his duff and 
			stopped 
			thinking about feeling better, and did something about it...
 (L) You 
			just have to go out and do it.
 (T) ...he didn’t feel better.
 (L) You 
			have to go out every day, and just start swimming around...
 (T) It 
			killed him, it killed him for three months, trying to walk.
 (L) I’m 
			actually doing darned good, considering ...
 (T) You are, if you’re 
			up to 50 laps! And you only just started, what, two weeks ago?
 (L) I 
			can do 22 without stopping! I mean, 50 is like the nightly count. 
			(T) You only started two weeks ago! Getting up to a hundred is going 
			to be hard? It only took you two weeks to get up to 50!
 (L) Well, 
			maybe not!
 (T) Getting up to a hundred...
 (L) Yes!
 (T) ...is going 
			to be easy! You’ve made the hard part!
 (L) My other question is, is 
			the creating of this vortex of energy somehow activating metabolism 
			as well?
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (L) I mean, is it like a cosmic liposuction?
 A: It’s a hell of a lot better than the endless train of 
			“therapists” you have
 seen.
 
			[The telephone rings, and the session is stopped temporarily. The 
			phone call is from A and Pk who want advice from the Cassiopaeans.] 
				
				Q: (L) OK, Pk wants to know about him and A. Get your paper and 
			pencil ready now, Pk!!! A: What does he want to know?
 
 Q: (L) Obviously, he wants to know if he and A are going to get 
			married? That’s obviously the question.
 A: Let him ask!
 
 Q: (L) (Consults on the phone briefly) OK, he want to know, are he 
			and A meant for each other? That’s his question.
 A: Vague.
 
 Q: (L) Ha ha, I told you! You hate it when that happens, don’t you!
 A: Get to the point, Pk.
 
 Q: (L) OK, Pk get to the point. What’s the point, what do you want 
			to ask?
 (Consults on the phone again) Ok, Pk wants to know if A is his 
			soulmate?
 A: As we have tried to explain before, there is no “one” soulmate, 
			there are
			many.
 
 Q: (L) Well, then, what he wants to know is... now you say that Ark 
			and I were each halves of a single soul. So, he wants to know, is 
			that the same situation?
 A: Open.
 
 Q: (L) They’re not going to tell you.
 A: Ask Pk how does she feel about him?
 
 Q: 
				(L) (Converses with him on phone) All right, Pk they said to ask 
			how does she feel about you? Do you know? Do you have any further 
			questions?(Converses with him on phone) He wants to know if he’s 
			going to make a lot of money?
 A: A.
 
 Q: (L) A is going to make a lot of money? Is that what you meant?
 A: What we meant is she holds the key to this whole process.
 
 Q: (L) So, in other words, you’ve got to listen to her, Pk!
 (T) It’s 
			always that way, Pk!
 (L) Anything further you want to tell Pk?
 A: Only if he asks.
 
 Q: (L) All right guys, you warned me, I knew I had it coming!
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (L) Is it going to work out?
 A: Wait and see!
 
 Q: (L) Ok, I’m giving up the floor!
 (T) They moved slowly on that 
			answer!
 (L) OK, so, basically, we’re kind of on hold here, on a lot 
			of things, waiting until Ark gets here.
 (T) Just keep working right 
			along, and he’ll just drop right in.
 A: Exactly!
 
 Q: (J) I have a question. Those two ladies that we met last night, 
			how do they factor into this process?
 (L) The Gulf Breeze Six 
			ladies? They were mentioned before, in the transcripts.
 A: 
				Vague.
 
 Q: (T) Let’s just let it play out, like we have been, and see what 
			happens.
 (L) 
			Is there any significance to the ML incident, where he came and sat 
			by us at the Gulfbreeze conference, and then came and sat by Terry 
			and Jan at the Tampa conference?
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: 
				(L) Can you tell us what the significance of this was?
 A: Psychic wave “undertow”.
 
 Q: (L) So, he’s not aware of anything, he just senses it 
			psychically? Is that correct?
 A: It is pulling him in, lo may he resist.
 
 Q: (T) Yes, that’s right. He was standing in the aisle, looking for 
			a seat, and Andrew and Jan went in first, and sat down. He was 
			standing there, and he came up behind them, and when he came ....( 
			tape turned off, portion lost) .... to the next city!.
 (L) Is there 
			anything to this Independence Day movie, that is valid or special to 
			any of us, other than being a good special effects movie?
 A: 
				Too vague for a pre-ending question.
 
 Q: (L) Do you have anything to say to us before we shut down for the 
			evening?
 A: Ask about ID4 in the next session. Goodbye.
 
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			 September 21, 1996
 
			 Freddie, Laura, Jan And Terry
 
			 [Note: During the entire session, the sound of frogs croaking in the 
			distance can be heard periodically]
 
				
				Q: (Laura) Hello. And who do we have with us this evening? 
				A: Toyjiia
 
 Q: (L) And where are you transmitting from?
 A: Cassiopaea.
 
 Q: (L) All right, last week, when we shut down for the night we had 
			asked a question about the movie ID4, Independence Day, and we were 
			told to ask further questions about this, so that gives us a clue 
			that there might be something significant there. Does anybody 
			remember what the question was that I asked?
 (T) Is there any 
			significance to the ID4 movie?
 A: Sure.
 
 Q: (L) What was the primary intention of the makers of this movie? 
			The primary message that they attempted to convey?
 A: Infuse thinking patterns with [planchette swirled a few times 
			here] concept
			of aliens.
 
 Q: (L) They intended to infuse thinking patterns with concept of 
			aliens... was there any particular slant on aliens, per se, that was 
			seen as desirable in the making of this movie?
 A: Slant?
 
 Q: (L) Slant, in other words, did they wish to present them 
			inaccurately to confuse people, to present them as something to be 
			feared and fought against, or to make them appear so completely 
			erroneous, so that when actual aliens do appear, that they will not 
			be perceived as negative?
 A: Infuse.
 
 Q: (L) Infuse. Just the concept, the concept of aliens in general. 
			OK...
 A: Part of a larger project.
 
 Q: (L) And what is this project?
 A: Called “Project Awaken.”
 
 Q: (L) And who is behind, or in charge of, this project?
 A: Many.
 
 Q: (L) Who are the primary group, groups or individuals? I’m sure 
			you’re not 
			going to give us individuals, but just the grouping.
 A: Thor’s Pantheum.
 
 Q: (L) And what is Thor’s Pantheum?
 A: Subselect trainees for transfer of enlightenment frequency 
			graduation.
 
 Q: (L) What is enlightenment frequency graduation?
 A: Think!
 
 Q: (L) Enlightenment frequency graduation... so, subselect 
			trainees...
 A: Self explanatory.
 
 Q: (L) Well, is this group STS or STO?
 A: Both.
 
 Q: (L) OK...
 (T) Are they working at cross purposes?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (T) They’re working together? Bipartisan?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (J) Are they aware of each other? Working on this?
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (J) Are they screwing each other up?
 (L) No, that’s going in the 
			wrong direction...
 A: There is more to all of this than you could dream.
 
 Q: (T) There’s more to all of this...were you referring to...
 (T) 
			Who are they? Thor’s Pantheum. And they’re subselect 
			trainees...That’s the group behind this movie; OK...
 A: An army of Aryan psychic projectors.
 
 Q: (T) Well, that explains a lot more than Thor’s Pantheum of 
			subselect trainees! An army of psychic projectors.
 (L) And what do 
			they project?
 A: Themselves... Right in to one’s head.
 
 Q: (T) Into one’s head... this is better than ‘Must See TV!’ (L) 
			Project right into one’s head... is anybody subject to this 
			projecting?
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (L) And, when they project themselves right into someone’s head, 
			what does that someone perceive?
 A: Inspiration.
 
 Q: (L) Inspiration to what, or to do what?
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (L) Yes? To do what, to do something?
 A: 
				And...
 
 Q: (L) To do something, and to understand or perceive something, is 
			that it?
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (J) To believe something?
 (L) Yes. So, how many are in this army?
 A: 1.6 million.
 
 Q: (L) When they’re doing this projecting into someone’s head, where 
			are they projecting from?
 A: Mostly subterranean.
 
 Q: (L) Subterranean, so these are the people of the tunnels, the 
			underground bases and all that sort of thing. Are they 3rd or 4th 
			density beings?
 A: Both.
 
 Q: (T) Let me back up to a question here. If they can do all this 
			projecting on their own, what was the point of the movie?
 A: 
				No, you misunderstand... This is an intense activity, directed 
			towards influencing the high level creative forces.
 
 Q: 
				(T) Projected against? Because this movie, if you’ve been 
			following the reviews and the people talking about it, this movie 
			has had more repeat business than any movie in years and years and 
			years and years. People have seen it ten and twenty times!
 (L) Was 
			there something subliminal in the movie? That opened something?
 (J) 
			That’s a good question!
 A: Sure.
 
 Q: (L) And was this subliminal activity with the movie designed to 
			create an opening for this further...
 A: Not for you, but for others.
 
 Q: (L) Why? Do you mean me, personally, or us as a group?
 (T) Well 
			the movie didn’t affect me.
 A: Group.
 
 Q: (L) What made us immune?
 A: You already have the knowledge.
 
 Q: (T) The movie wasn’t meant for us; we already know. The movie was 
			meant for all of those who don’t understand.
 A: Say hello to Gene Roddenberry.
 
 Q: (L) Is Gene Roddenberry present?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (L) In other words, say hello to him because he was doing that 
			sort of thing a long time ago?
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (L) Is Gene Roddenberry one of these people from Thor’s 
			Pantheon...
 A: No.
 
 Q: (L) Why did you bring up Gene Roddenberry?
 (J) Because he was 
			doing it in Star Trek?
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (T) He was doing a whole different thing with Star Trek...
 (L) 
			Well, lets not get too far off track, hang on, hang on...
 A: 
				It’s not the exact “Slant,” it’s “the concept, stupid.”
 
 Q: (T) Well ,they don’t have to get insulting here!
 (L) They 
			weren’t. Ok...
 A: “Its the economy, stupid.”
 
 Q: 
				(J) We knew that!!
 (T) I was just teasing. Mirth!! Mirth!
 (L) 
			Hold everything. When you say influencing high level creative 
			forces, do you mean as in gathering, what would you call it, gravity 
			waves...
 A: No.
 
 Q: (L) What are these high level creative forces that are needing to 
			be influenced, or desirable of being influenced?
 A: Those in the creative arts.
 
 Q: (L) So in other words, I see, this group is using their 
			projecting ability to influence those in the creative arts to do 
			creative things that will therefore influence the people on the 
			planet. Is that it?
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (L) And, these individuals are in the underground tunnels, and 
			you say that they are both STS and STO.
 A: We did not specify “tunnels,” you did.
 
 Q: (T) They said... how did they put that? Subterranean...
 (J) 
			Mostly subterranean.
 
				(T) ... Underground. In other words, 
			underground, as in resistance fighters type underground, underground 
			as in ... A: No.
 
 Q: (T) Not fighters, but the idea that they are part of the 
			underground movement?
 (L) Subterranean as in literally under the 
			ground?
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (L) OK, but not tunnels, then what?
 A: We did not say “no tunnels” either.
 
 Q: 
				(L) Are these individuals living... I know we said the tunnels...
 A: The point is: what happens when you assume?
 
 Q: (L) We won’t assume. Are there any specific things about this 
			movie other than the general import of opening to the idea of 
			aliens...
 A: No.
 
 Q: (L) So there’s no specific thing that we can pin down in this 
			movie, and say that this might be an accurate representation of 
			anything? It was just entertainment for that purpose?
 A: Enough about the movie, already!
 
 Q: (T) But they were the ones who brought it up!
 (L) Well, yes, but 
			maybe they want us to get on to the subject of this ‘Thor’s 
			Pantheon’ thing?
 (T) Well, I want to make sure that we’re not 
			missing something...
 (T) So, we’re looking at some Aryan psychic 
			projectors who are trying to stimulate people in a positive way, a 
			la Gene Roddenberry...
 (L) Now, that’s an assumption. Can we say 
			that they are stimulating people in a positive way?
 A: Maybe.
 
 Q: (J) Can we say that they are stimulating people in a negative 
			way?
 A: Maybe.
 
 Q: (L) So, there’s probably a little of both. And you say that we 
			are immune to it because we already have knowledge. Now, when you 
			say we have knowledge, do you mean just knowledge in particular 
			about aliens and alien realities and alien potentials and so forth?
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (L) Is there something more on this subject of these Aryan 
			psychic projectors that we need to know or investigate?
 A: 
				Arkadiusz being tracked now.
 
 Q: (L) By whom?
 A: Grays.
 
 Q: (L) And what do they plan on doing?
 A: Open.
 
 Q: (L) Is there anything... Why did you t ell me that?
 (T) To tell 
			him?
 A: Because it is time you talked with him more about aliens. He is 
			not well 
			enough informed !!
 
 Q: (L) Well, I sent him the book ‘Grand Illusions,’ I sent him the 
			Bramley book, and I sent him a Jacques Vallee book. He’s presently 
			in the process of reading through these three books. What else do I 
			need to say to him? He’s read the transcripts, he read them in a 
			week the whole way through.
 A: And how much did he comment specifically about aliens.
 
 Q: (L) Not a whole lot. Obviously there’s something else you wish 
			for me to convey to him. Since I am going to be talking to him on 
			the phone tomorrow...
 A: The seriousness of the situation... the reality of it... this is 
			not fun and 
			games.
 
 Q: (L) What specific thing can I tell him that he could do or... 
			How can he protect himself? Is there any specific knowledge... 
			But he knows these things!
 A: He has been told, but the awareness is not as sharp as it should 
			be. Ask him 
			where his skepticism lies. All these over the road journeys now have 
			added risk!
 
 Q: (L) Well, isn’t that true for all of us sitting here?
 A: More so for him!
 
 Q: (L) Why more so for him?
 A: Because of his position and his knowledge of advanced physics!
 
 Q: (L) Will awareness and knowledge...
 A: 
				The reality must “hit home.”
 
 Q: (L) Anything further?
 A: Much more, but you must ask.
 
 Q: (L) Has he been abducted before?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (L) He’s never been abducted?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (L) Is there some plan to abduct him at the present time?
 A: It does not work that way.
 
 Q: (L) How does it work?
 A: Too complex.
 
 Q: (L) Is there some attempt at the present time to modify his 
			thinking?
 A: Attempt is not right idea.
 
 Q: (L) What is the right idea? Now, wait a minute, stop everything!
 
			End of Session  
			 [The session was abruptly stopped by Laura, who was upset by the 
			line being taken. This was partly because she did not recognize the 
			C’s reference to the George Bush quote “It's the economy, stupid.” 
			She thought that the C’s were attacking Terry and then being 
			negative about Ark.]
 
 
			
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 September 27,28 1996
 
			  
			Freddie, Laura  
				
				Q: (L) Hello. A: Hello.
 
 Q: (L) Have you been listening to our conversation about when Ark 
			may arrive?
 A: You have not asked for ID.
 
 Q: 
				(L) Okay, sorry. Who do we have with us this evening?
 A: Lanirre.
 
 Q: (L) And where are you from?
 A: Cassiopaea.
 
 Q: (L) Do you have any comment on when and if Ark will arrive?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (L) He is concerned about being able to find a permanent job 
			here. Is this going to be a problem?
 A: Not if you use your talents, as we told you to!
 
 Q: (L) Is there something I am missing that I ought to be doing?
 A: You “ought” to be exerting more energy toward trawling and 
			communicating and 
			less toward other things.
 
 Q: (L) Trawling and communicating with whom?
 A: Uncovering, researching, job prospects/openings.
 
 Q: (L) Via the internet I should go and...
 A: And written material and “media scanning,” and library, etc... We 
			have told
 you that this communication has reached its maximum extent.
 
 Q: (L) So, you are telling us that we have to do some stuff on our 
			own?
 A: You, Laura, you!!!
 
 Q: (L) Can you give me a couple of hints as to what I am looking 
			for?
 A: You are not thinking.
 
 Q: (L) Alright. I will think about it. I am not happy with the fact 
			that I look 44 years old!
 A: Vague as can be! How about a new do?
 
 Q: (L) You mean my hair?
 A: One.
 
 Q: (L) I want to ask about this terrible ordeal we were going 
			through the past day or two. It seemed that there were clues 
			pointing to it being connected to what happened to me when I was 22 
			as well as to another lifetime. Is it related?
 A: In a complex cyclical way.
 
 Q: (L) What was the story about this kid named Noah who showed up 
			here, and was 22 years old and suicidal...
 A: Coincidence.
 
 Q: (L) What was accomplished, if anything, by going through this?
 A: Learning.
 
 Q: (L) Was it also a process of releasing stored negative energy?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (L) Nothing else except learning?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (L) I am wondering if it is possible that his traveling and our 
			communications from and to various places reflects connections to 
			karmic events?
 A: Do not get carried away.
 
 Q: 
				(L) I am just wondering because of all the strange things that 
			are happening.
 A: Everything is a synchronous event.
 
 Q: (L) Did Ark and I have a past life together in Florence?
 A: Density.
 
 Q: (L) What do you mean?
 A: Density.
 
 Q: (L) Density what? The question was: did we have a past life as I 
			saw it in Florence?
 A: Density. Lead you by the hand we do not do.
 
 Q: (L) Is there a connection at another density?
 A: Look.
 
 Q: (L) Look what?
 A: 
				Look, discover.
 
 Q: (L) When you say this communication has reached its maximum 
			extent, do you mean it was designed and put together just to bring 
			information, then bring Ark into the picture to benefit by it and do 
			a particular work?
 A: The communication we mean is the one between you and him.
 
 Q: (L) Does that mean we should stop it now? Just break it off?
 A: You need to spend more time with “Enterprise Florida.” 
			Information is readily 
			available at your fingertips. Look ‘em up! I.E. Less lovey dovey 
			with Arky warky and more with jobby wobby, get it?!?
 
 Q: 
				(L) Very cute, guys! Another thing I have thought about is 
			selling the house to buy another...
 A: Wrong move!
 
 Q: (L) Okay. I dropped it just now! Won’t even think about it!
 A: Think all you want, just don’t do! You arrived at this locator 
			for a 
			reason!!!!
 
 Q: (L) I am curious about something... Is Ark in a relationship that 
			seems so similar to the one I was in, and is his dragging on all 
			these years for the same reasons mine did?
 A: Money.
 
 Q: (L) What do you mean?
 A: Everything divides.
 
 Q: (L) I don’t understand.
 A: He has tried to get free, so far no luck.
 
 Q: (L) Well, will he have luck on this? Without causing a lot of 
			suffering?
 A: If creativity prevails, he will succeed.
 
 Q: (L) I am sure that she knows something. Is she aware of how 
			unhappy he is?
 A: Has been for many years.
 
 Q: 
				(L) How can she reconcile making him suffer?
 A: She craves the association with “authority.” One could call it 
			the Jaqueline
			Kennedy Onassis syndrome.
 
 Q: (L) You mean she is just there for what she can wring out of him? 
			That’s terrible!
 A: Do you think a factory worker would do when she has a physicist?
 
 Q: (L) Well, that means she has just been using him all these years?
 A: You said it, we didn’t.
 
 Q: (L) Oh! That’s terrible! Last week you said that something needs 
			to ‘hit home’ with Ark. Was it what has already happened between us?
 A: Other. He needs to understand the reality of trans- density, 
			interdimensional, interstellar and planetary attack and contact for 
			both STS and STO! One half of him does not yet believe!
 
 Q: 
				(L) Is something going to happen?
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (L) Is it going to be upsetting to him?
 A: Yes and no.
 
 Q: (L) So, he will be able to handle it.
 A: 
				Yes.
 
 Q: (L) Will it happen in Wroclaw, or at his residence?
 A: Wait and see.
 
 Q: (L) Is he married to someone who is there to keep him unaware, to 
			monitor, or to drain his energy?
 A: Yes. All.
 
 Q: 
				(L) Is she controlled by aliens?
 A: Partly, but that is nothing unusual.
 
 Q: (L) Well, that is not good, especially if one does not believe. I 
			certainly did not like the experiences that convinced me.
 A: 
				Worry not. Listen and be open. Good Night.
 
 Q: (L) Good Night.
 
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			 October 1, 1996
 
			 Freddie, Laura, A
 
				
				Q: (L) Hello. A: Hello.
 
 Q: (L) Who do we have with us tonight?
 A: 
				Vurra.
 
 Q: (L) A_ has wanted to sit in with us and is here tonight. Is that 
			alright?
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (L) And I suppose she has a few questions.
 (A) No.
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (A) There isn’t anything in particular that I want to ask.
 A: Incorrect.
 
 Q: (L) One thing that I know has been bothering her is that she is 
			having trouble concentrating to the point that she cannot read. What 
			is the problem?
 A: Her mind is on other things.
 
 Q: (L) And, what is that.
 A: Ask her.
 
 Q: (L) Well, as we go along, she will think of them. Now, something 
			has happened: Ark has asked for divorce and apparently it was not a 
			pleasant outcome, to say the least. From what he has said, I am 
			thinking that she is going to become very vindictive within the next 
			few days. And, what concerns me is that she is going to try to 
			discover who I am by going into his computer.
 A: Already has tried.
 
 Q: (L) And what was the result?
 A: Nothing, she did not know how to get into proper file. There are 
			passwords. 
			She will try again until no longer able. Also snoops through printed 
			material. 
			But, not proficient in English.
 
 Q: (L) Thank God for small favors. I have the feeling that there is 
			something about this situation... that something very negative is 
			going to happen. The reality of other density controls will ‘hit 
			home’ in a very unpleasant way.
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (L) Is there anything I can do to warn him?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (L) And I have no idea what this feeling relates to. Looking at 
			the charts, it seems that whatever she does will be this month, 
			probably in the next few days, because she is building steam. Anger 
			and rage... I don’t think he really has any idea who she is, the 
			same way I didn’t know the person I was married to... it was all my 
			own illusion. Is this correct?
 A: It is not “who she is,” it is what works through her by her own 
			choice.
 
 Q: (L) So, she is a channel of attack?
 A: Two more to appear at university in Wroclaw.
 
 Q: (L) Any clues that I can give him?
 A: One is subordinate, one is authoritative. Also, possibility of 
			Anna trying 
			to undermine his position at university with implications of 
			infidelity and adultery... both are seen as more serious breaches in 
			Poland than here and elsewhere when it comes to one of high standing 
			in a university level capacity.
 
 
				Q: (L) Well, I just have the feeling 
			that she is really wanting to rip him to pieces. I can actually feel 
			it emanating across the ocean. A: We have detailed for you. May actually hasten things, rather than 
			forestall
 as intended!
 
 Q: (L) Is there any more you have to say on this subject?
 A: Up to you. Warn, as all is not as anticipated in such detail.
 
 Q: (L) I need to warn him?
 A: UFOs monitoring.
 
 Q: (L) Monitoring him?
 A: And the situation. Also, at a human level, “the walls now have 
			ears.”
 
 Q: (L) Okay, A_ is very worried about the present situation with J_. 
			What can we do in this situation?
 A: Vague. Have A_ ask, please!!
 
 Q: (A) I don’t know what to ask.
 A: A__ is holding back, we cannot answer.
 
 Q: (L) You have to ask.
 (A) When are Gma and J_ going to move out 
			and will it help things?
 A: Not definite. You cannot solve your problems by trying to avoid 
			them.
 
 Q: (A) I am not trying to avoid any problems. What do you mean?
 A: Removing subjects does not resolve them.
 
 Q: (L) What are the main subjects that need to be resolved in her 
			mind?
 A: Interplay and communication and understanding.
 
 Q: (L) Anything else that can help?
 A: Only if she asks.
 
 Q: (A) Why do I get depressed?
 A: Stress causes chemical changes.
 
 Q: (A) What are my main sources of stress?
 A: Inability to see other points of view.
 
 Q: 
				(A) Whose points of view?
 A: All.
 
 Q: 
				(A) I try to see everybody’s point of view.
 (L) From your own 
			point of view.
 (A) No, I try to see what everybody is thinking and 
			feeling, to the best of my ability.
 A: No.
 
 Q: 
				(A) I don’t understand. Yes, I do.
 (L) Can you help?
 A: No help is desired.
 
 Q: (L) Would you think that there is a possiblity that you are NOT 
			seeing the other points of view.
 (A) Sure. It’s possible, but I try. 
			Is there any way to improve this?
 A: Communication.
 
 Q: (A) About what?
 (L) I guess just start talking.
 A: Specifically, communicate with those that bother you! Resistance 
			is powerful.
 
 Q: (A) Resisting what? You are so confusing!
 A: No.
 
 Q: (L) Anything else?
 A: 
				Only if desired.
 
 Q: (L) Is LM’s injury serious and will it leave permanent damage?
 A: All injuries do.
 
 Q: (L) Of a major nature?
 A: Semi.
 
 Q: (L) Is he going to die from this as he thinks?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (L) What caused this accident?
 A: Too complex as to root cause, but direct cause was “passing out.”
 
 Q: (L) Okay. Tom G passed away, and I would like to know what his 
			state is and could we communicate with him?
 A: Sleeping to adjust to the reality of afterlife in 5th density.
 
 Q: (L) What was the physiological reason for his passing?
 A: Electrical short circuit.
 
 Q: (L) Did he suffer at all?
 A: No. Did not believe in “hereafter.” Are you aware of this?
 
 Q: (L) No, I wasn’t.
 A: Will awaken, but of course, there is no “time” there.
 
 Q: (L) Is there anything I can say or do for Chloe to help her 
			through this?
 A: Will recover surprisingly quickly.
 
 Q: (L) Is it likely that she will move back to Florida?
 A: Next year.
 
 Q: (L) I would really like to do something to make my baby feel 
			better.
 A: Up to A_.
 
 Q: (L) Anything further for any of us?
 A: No, and Good Night.
 
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			 October 5, 1996
 
			 Freddie, Laura, Terry, TM, M, V
 
				
				Q: (L) Hello A: Hello
 
 Q: (L) Who do we have with us this evening?
 A: Kournia.
 
 Q: (L) And where are you from?
 A: Cassiopaea.
 
 Q: (L) Does anybody want to start with some questions? Do we have an 
			open forum tonight, seeing as there are no questions?
 A: You always have an open forum.
 
 Q: (L) Well, seeing as how we have no specific questions, I will ask 
			this question. I was talking with Roger Santilli, and he has 
			expressed his opinion that the potential opportunities for doing 
			research in the United States are extremely limited. I would like to 
			know if that’s neccessarily...
 A: Wrong!
 
 Q: 
				(L) Good! I’m glad it’s wrong! If it is wrong, can you tell us 
			precisely in what way it is wrong, and how we can look at it to gain 
			a better perspective.
 A: There are no limits, just controls... The knowledge gives
 one all the necessary tools to overcome the controls. Do not attempt 
			to formulate words as you write, my dear. Just “Go with the flow”
 
 
				Q: (L) Well, I’m feeling pretty darn warm, the energy is higher than 
			I’ve seen it in a long time...(T) Energetic little being, isn’t 
			he?!
 (V) I’m having a hard time keeping up...
 (L) I know, it’s fast. 
			Just hang in there, sweetie.
 (T) That’s what we’re trying to do!
 (L) 
			Why are we having...
 A: No meta. The.
 
 Q: (L) No ‘meta’, ‘the controls.’ (V) Oh, I see, I had it wrong... 
			Thanks.
 (L) 
			We’ve got some real good energy here. I’d like 
			to ask ...
 A: I see you, you see me.
 
 Q: (V) What does that mean?
 A: What it says.
 
 Q: (L) The energy is really good. I like it. OK, guys, we like the 
			energy tonight. Tell us why we have such good energy tonight.
 A: Tom.
 
 Q: (L) And what is there about Tom?
 A: Not often here.
 
 Q: (L) Anything else about it? No. All right, Marcie took a 
			particular type of Reiki initiation or attunement today, and I’d 
			like to know, what was the... she had an event occur during the 
			attunements.
			I would like to know what this event was. What this condition was 
			that she experienced.
 A: She should be careful not to “spread her self too thin.”
 
 Q: (L) And what does that mean?
 A: One does not need to cram learning, “steady as she goes.”
 
 Q: (V) They’re punctually correct, aren’t they?
 (L) Yes, they are! 
			So, is that in a sense a caution?
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: 
				(L) Can you describe what it was that was taking place with her?
			Or define it?
 A: Soul bilocation.
 
 Q: (L) So, it was not exactly a state, as the Sufis describe?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (L) And where did she bilocate to?
 A: Not easily explainable.
 
 Q: (L) Was it to another density or dimension? Or parallel univers 
			or spiritual domain?
 (T) Norfolk Naval Station? [Laughter] 
			Destination of bilocation!
 (L) Was this a beneficial event for her?
 A: No. She has been ripping open the fabric too much.
 
 Q: (V) Do you know what that means?
 (TM) The fabric of this dimension?
 (L) Is T correct? The fabric of this dimension?
 A: Close. Each soul has its own patterning, which is held in 
			place by the three bodies of existence [planchette swirls a few 
			times] ... “thought center, spirit center and physical center,” 
			there are specific methodologies for adjusting these, and travelling 
			into or out of other planes of existence. When one does not properly 
			utilize these, one tears the fabric of their trilateral continuum 
			when they seek to travel. This can be very problematic, and may lead 
			to the soul being unable to reconnect with the body, thus causing 
			the physical center to perish!!!
 
 
				Q: (L) The man who was giving the 
			attunements, was he aware of what was happening, or what he was 
			doing? A: Aware only of unusual sensates.
 
 Q: 
				(L) He did this? You let him touch you?
 (M) Yes.
 (L) Oh, Jesus! 
			(M) Sensations, that’s what he said. He was aware of it, he just 
			didn’t know what it was.
 (T) He felt it, but he had no idea what was 
			goin on.
 (M) He just felt that it was something to do with the 
			attunement. I guess, I mean, I don’t know!
 (L) Did it have anytrhing 
			to do with the attunement?
 A: No. It had to do with previous experiments.
 
 Q: (L) Why did she see like a past life review?
 A: You described it well.
 
 Q: (L) In other words, when I said that when she separated from her 
			body, she was able to access the past life review, just as if you 
			were in the process of dying.
 (M) Well, experiments by who?
 (L) You!
 A: You.
 
 Q: (L) So, what was, what happened with this interaction that caused 
			this to trigger right there and then? At that moment? What was the 
			trigger?
 A: Spirit center stimulus.
 
 Q: (L) And what was the stimulus? Was this stimulus...
 A: The “initiation.”
 
 Q: (L) The initiation stimulated the spirit center.
 (M) So, what 
			would they have me do?
 (L) Well, they aren’t going to tell you that! 
			(M) No?
 (L) You have to make your own mind...
 (M) What’s the proper 
			way to go through these.. If I’m tearing my fabric, how do I not 
			tear my fabric?
 (L) Slow down?
 A: By ceasing until it is properly healed.
 
 Q: (L) You’ve got to be healed.
 (M) Healed of what?
 (T) Healed at 
			the rips and tears?
 (L) Well, maybe more than that...
 A: 
				Yes.
 
 Q: (L) All right, healed at the rips and tears. Approximately how 
			long would that take?
 (T) Until it’s done!
 (L) Oh, stop it!
 A: Open.
 
 Q: (M) Can that beam, can that portal take care of it...
 (V) Can you 
			suggest how the rips might be healed? Is there...
 (L) Wait a minute, 
			wait a minute...
 (V) Sorry!
 A: It is a natural process.
 
 Q: (L) M want to know, can the portal that she has in her house take 
			care of helping to heal this...
 A: No.
 
 Q: (T) The portal you have in your house?
 (M) I’ve got it in my 
			aura, we’ve seen it on film.
 (L) Maybe that’s part of the tear?
 
				(M) I 
			don’t know...  
				(TM) Look at the location of it...(M) It sure is huge, 
			and it sure is...
 A: No.
 
 Q: (L) No, it’s not part of the tear.
 (T) Does everybody’s house 
			have a portal in it?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (L) She’s got it in the photographs. Amazing. You haven’t seen 
			these photographs. These photographs will knock you out of the 
			water.
 (T) I’m still waiting to see the photograph of the board.
 (L) 
			I sent it to Ark.
 (T) Awwww, I’m never going to see the photograph 
			of the board!!!
 (L) No, no, no! Cherie has a copy of it. She’s going 
			to make us an enlargement.
 (M) So, what am I supposed to do with 
			this, can the portal assist in any way, this thing in the aura, will 
			it do me any good, I mean, what’s it for, anyway?...
 A: It can assist you in becoming possessed.
 
 Q: (M) Well, that’s just wonderful!!! How did it get there? ™ 
			Somebody did something bad there?
 (M) The top of my head? ™ Now, 
			wait a minute, it’s in your aura?
 (M) Yes, it’s on the top of my 
			head, it comes right down. ™ Ohhh!
 A: No it is not a part of you.
 
 Q: (M) OK, so it just kind of likes to hang out in my aura! Loves 
			photogaphing my aura. It loves to be there, we don’t know what it 
			is.
 (T) Maybe it jumps in your aura because it’s photogenic!
 (V)
 Can it be resolved with spirit release?
 (L) No. Any personal advice 
			for her at this point?
 A: Colsolidate classes into three way study groupings.
 
 Q: (L) What is a three way study group?
 A: 
				Combined study of three subjects.
 
 Q: (L) All right, combine the study of three subjects, instead of 
			studying them separately. So, what subjects are you teaching?
 (M) I 
			teach healing, I teach the rays of initiation, and I teach auras. 
			(L) Well I guess they are saying to teach all three of them 
			together! Have them all assemble at the same time, instead of 
			separately.
 (M) The only one I don’t do, that’s really combined, I 
			teach about healing and auras, but the other one, the one about rays 
			of initiations, that is a separate class. It doesn’t fit in!
 (L) 
			Well, see if you can work a way to do it, like, an hour on this 
			subject, and then we’ll go on to this subject. Like a two-class 
			school. And now we go to this, and do it all in one fell swoop, and 
			that way, you’ve got about two hours. All right, anything else for 
			her?
 (T) How about asking where this portal came from?
 (L) Yes, what 
			was the generative source? The one in her house.
 A: More than one.
 
 Q: (L) OK, there’s more than one generative source. So, it’s a 
			combination of factors. Is it part of the historical site? The 
			space-time location?
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (L) Is it part of the metaphysical activities taking part in the 
			house itself?
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (L) Is it part M herself? And her own mental states?
 A: Other occupants. More than her.
 
 Q: (M) Do they mean live ones or dead ones?
 A: Both.
 
 Q: (M) That’s what I thought.
 (V) How can it be removed?
 (L) What 
			would be the best technique for her stopping activity and allowing 
			herself to heal, and getting herself on track so that she doesn’t 
			get any real... Jesus, can you imagine, if this kind of happened 
			again, and you just checked out ?And couldn’t get back?
 A: 
				Changes in lifestyle.
 
 Q: (L) Changes in lifestyle... and what specifically, can you list 
			the several...
 A: No.
 
 Q: (M) Oh, man!
 (L) You’ve got to know this yourself! You know them 
			yourself!!!
 (M) Can you ask them...
 (L) Just think about this, dear.
 (TM) The more you deny it, the worse it gets.
 A: We would like to have the opportunity to discuss other issues at 
			this session 
			besides personal issues, as this drains the channel energy. But, we 
			will accept limited questions fromthose in particular need.
 
 Q: (L) I want to finish for her. Can I ask just one short, maybe a 
			couple added to it; quick ones for M?
 A: One, please.
 
 Q: (L) The question I have is, she is in a situation where she is 
			somewhat obfuscated in her directions. It seems that many sorts of 
			sources seek to...
 A: Obuscation is illusion.
 
 Q: 
				(L) I know, but what I’m trying to get at for my question is yes, 
			she’s got all these illusions that she gets thrown at her. But, it 
			seems to me that a person who gets this much attack...
 A: Finances would take care of themselves, miracle.
 
 Q: (TM) I have a question. What is happening in my car...
 
				(L) No!  
				(TM) It 
			is just a yes or no question!(L) Well, ok.
 
				(TM) Have I been abducted 
			in my car, like Laura suggested? A: Maybe.
 
 Q: 
				(TM) Thank you, that’s all I wanted to know.
 (L) Well you should 
			have asked it in a different way! I thought you were going to ask a 
			mechanical question! [Laughter] It’s been done! I did it!!!! 
			Remember, we asked about (Name deleted)’s truck, and he wanted to 
			argue about it, and the next day, found out it was absolutely 
			correct! He argued with them!!! They diagnosed the problem with his 
			truck, and he argued with them; ‘Well they don’t know anything about 
			mechanics!’ He stomped around and everything. The next day, the guy 
			from across the street comes over and looks at it and says exactly 
			the same thing they did! That’s all it needed, just a little rubber 
			thing stuck over a hole. [Laughter] Did he believe? No! It didn’t 
			matter to him! OK, I do have one question here. I talked to (Name 
			deleted) the other day, and I told her what we got the other night, 
			about (Name deleted) being sleeping, and she wanted to say that she 
			just couldn’t accept that, because so many other people have had 
			visitations and visions and dreams and so forth of (Name deleted) 
			wandering around and doing all these good deeds in the other world. 
			Comments, please.
 A: Not true.
 
 Q: (L) It’s not true. Then why are all these other people saying 
			that they are seeing (Name deleted) or having experiences with him, 
			either in dreams or visual, or whatever, and what are these people 
			seeing and experiencing?
 A: In short, inflated opinions of ability manifest false reality.
 
 Q: (L) So, these various people who think they’re psychic have such 
			inflated opinions of their own abilities that they are all calling 
			her up and saying ‘I saw him, he spoke to me... he came to me in a 
			dream...’ (M) Who is (Name deleted) ?
 (L) My girlfriend’s husband 
			just died.
 (V) Is he still sleeping?
 A: Emotions directing events.
 
 Q: (T) They are also just telling her what she wants to hear.
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (L) So, I think I should just not say anything 
				further about it. 
			I was trying to say it in a more comforting way, but she, I guess, 
			what is it...
 A: She is under emotional “cloud”
 
 Q: (L) OK, we have all given M emotional support. We all love her, 
			and we all see her as an important person who is being attacked from 
			all sides. We are all here, at all times, to help you when you need 
			it. So, therefore, you have advice, you have been promised a 
			miracle, it may have something to do with a phone conversation I had 
			the other day...
 (M) Yes, that was weird!
 (L) Now, carry on!
 (T) Was 
			there something you wanted to speak on this evening? You said there 
			were other issues that you wanted to talk about.
 A: Wait a minute... V_, my dear, your retreat will be tremendously 
			uplifting and
 positive!!! Lots of fun, too.
 
 Q: (V) Yahoo! Without getting personal, and going into explanations, 
			was the experience that I had after I fell asleep last night past 
			life remembrance?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (V) Can you tell me what it was without going into detail.
 A: Subconcious mind wandering.
 
 Q: (V) Jesus!
 (L) Well, in her 
				subconscious mind wanderings, was she 
			picking up something in the atmosphere; some thought, or some fear?
 (V) I can’t believe that that would come from me!
 A: No. Cycling.
 
 Q: (L) Can you give her anything more on this? She was very 
			distressed about it... You can pick it up out of my mind if you 
			want. Her mind, whoever’s mind.
 A: No.
 
 Q: (L) Is it anything to be concerned about as a prophetic thing?
 A: No. Why would you say prophecy?
 
 Q: (L) Well, she was concerned that it was something that could 
			happen...
 (V) No, I wasn’t concerned in that way... I’m concerned, 
			I’m disgusted by it, and I would be much easier for me to handle if 
			it was some kind of past life memory than if it were something that 
			comes from my psyche. Because it disgusts me.
 A: Disgust manifested in dream state wanderings always result from 
			repressed 
			situations.
 
 Q: (L) Ohhh, I see! Was that something that was in the air and 
			was...
 (V)
 Repressed as in my relationship with the person.
 A: Maybe.
 
 Q: (L) Do you want to drop that? [Energy burst from the board] A 
			couple of weeks ago you gave us a warning about Ark travelling on 
			his over the road trips and possible alien monitoring. Is his 
			intention to be fully aware and concious and not travel at night 
			going to help with this particular situation? This warning?
 A: 
				Maybe.
 
 Q: (L) He is now of the opinion that his awareness of the state of 
			the other person as being possibly desirous of undermining his 
			position at the University, that his awareness will forestall or 
			circumvent this. How high a percentage is there of this happening, 
			even with his awareness?
 A: ? Awareness is not balanced yet.
 
 Q: (L) So, his awareness is not complete yet. He is not fully aware 
			of how deep and dark and dewy these aliens can be when they start 
			working through people? Is that it?
 A: Goin thru the motions, babe.
 
 Q: (L) What? ‘Goin thru the motions, babe?’ What does that mean? 
			Does that mean anything to anybody?
 A: What Ark is doing, but, it is the first step to learning.
 
 Q: (L) What does this mean? I don’t quite get it. I’m being dense 
			here.
 (T) We told him that this is happening, so yes, he’s going 
			thru the motions for you, that he’s understanding this...
 (M) He’s 
			got to go through it completely before he understands...
 (T) ... but 
			it’s got to really happen for it to...
 (L) Is that it? Is Terry on 
			to it here, that it’s got to really happen...
 A: Close.
 
 Q: (V) Has he been hauled out, like MM and I’ve been hauled out?
 (L) 
			Who the hell knows?
 A: No. Not completely.
 
 Q: 
				(V) MM and I are just the lucky ones!
 (T) Such luck!
 (V) Yeah, 
			right! That was laced with sarcasm!! I do hope you heard that!
 (T) 
			No, I didn’t catch that at all, haha!
 (L) In terms of this 
			interaction with RS, is there anything that would be fruitful to 
			follow in terms of trying to assist him in his work, and in his...
 A: Let events unfold.
 
 Q: (L) It sounds like something is going to unfold.
 (T) Just let him 
			do what he’s going to do.
 (L) I was talking about our involvement... 
			(T) There’s nothing we have to do ...
 (L) Well, ok, right....
 A: So were we.
 
 Q: (V) What? What does that mean?
 (L) Ok, they also were talking 
			about our 
			involvement with him...
 (V) This is like taking notes in classes, 
			you know! This is like practice! This will get me ready for the 
			University!
 (T) Do we have to spell it out for you? [Extended 
			laughter!] (V) My little finger flies sometimes, Terry, I want to 
			tell you!
 A: Mind programming.
 
 Q: (L) What about mind programming?
 (T) Is that like Fox and NBC? 
			You know, must see TV!
 (V) This is mirth, guys!
 (L) Mind 
			programming...
 (T) OK, what about mind programming?
 (V) In reference 
			to what?
 A: We thought we would just throw that onto the table.
 
 Q: (L) Well, they certainly did! I guess that’s what they want us to 
			talk about!
 (T) Mind programming! As in programming of one’s mind.
 A: TM received some most recently.
 
 Q: (L) And who did he receive the mind programming from?
 A: Cultists.
 
 Q: (T) What form did it take?
 A: Negative.
 
 Q: (V) (To TM) Are you aware of this?
 (T) Not negative or positive, 
			but what form was it presented to him as?
 A: Hypnotic.
 
 Q: (T) Was he awake or asleep at the time?
 A: Both.
 
 Q: (T) No, no. Before the hypnotics, was he awake?
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (L) Was this a pre-hypnotic trigger?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (L) Was it hypnosis at a distance?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (T) How was it conveyed to him?
 A: Lights, fires, chants.
 
 Q: (V) Were you aware of this?
 (L) How long has it been since you’ve 
			hung out with that bunch?
 
				(TM) I haven’t seen any of them since way 
			back when.(L) Way back when, what is that, a couple of years?
 
				(TM) Yes 
			 
				(L) Well, then that’s still recently...(T) Lights, what and chants?
 
				(V) (reading) ‘lights, fires and chants.’ 
				 
				(T) OK, thanks. A: Yes.
 
 Q: (T) Was he with them...
 (L) Oh, yes, he was...
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (L) This is what we were...
 (T) I just wanted to make sure that 
			this was not a long-distance thing... that they did it from a 
			distance and...
 
				(TM) Yes, that they still didn’t have their hooks into 
			me.(L) Good question, is this programming still active?
 A: 
				Close, though.
 
 Q: (L) Close, though to what?
 A: Almost.
 
 Q: (T) ... that this wasn’t done from a distance, that he wasn’t 
			with them physically, like this, that he was somewhere nearby when 
			they did this...
 (L) Oh, he was close...
 (T) He was close to them?
 (L) Right.
 (T) But he wasn’t...
 A: No.
 
 Q: 
				(T) OK, then, they weren’t responding to what I was saying.
 (L) 
			So they were doing lights, fires and chants, and he was not there?
 A: Response was to “Hooks”
 
 Q: (L) Are some of the choices he’s been making in his life in the 
			last two years the results of this programming?
 A: Maybe.
 
 Q: (L) I suppose we better let him read the Greenbaum papers; 
			everybody here has read them, right?
 (M) That’s where all the 
			accidents (?) are coming from...
 (T) (To TM) You haven’t read the 
			Greenbaum papers yet?
 
				(TM) I don’t think so!(T) Welllllll.....
 (V) 
			It’s very enlightening, I’ll have you know!
 (T) There’s a person 
			who’s thrilled about this one!!!
 (To Laura) Print them out and give 
			them to him.
 
				(TM) I want to know; did I get married as a result of this 
			programming? A: Yes.
 
 Q: (L) Did I get married as a result of some similar programming?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (L) Did M?
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (V) Did I?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (T) Did Terry?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (T) Did Freddie?
 A: 
				No.
 
 Q: (L) Freddie never got married!
 (T) Well, I was just making sure 
			that everybody felt like they were in on all this!
 (M) This 
			Greenbaum program, was it due to my father?
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (M) Thought so!
 (L) Remember, his father was military, too!
 (M) 
			Twenty years!
 (T) While I’m tossing it...
 
				(TM) Was it done to my 
			father? A: You were “Greenbaumed.”
 
 Q: (T) Was Jan’s friend Margaret Greenbaumed?
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (T) She’s got all the signs...
 (L) Was TM Greenbaumed?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (V) What about Violette?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (L) What about Freddie?
 A: 
				No.
 
 Q: (L) Laura?
 A: No
 
 Q: (L) Terry?
 A: No
 
 Q: (T) Jan?
 A: No
 
 Q: (M) So, I’m the only one here that’s been Greenbaumed?
 (TM) So, you got mental programming, but it wasn’t Greenbaum?
 (L) I 
			didn’t 
			know that I had mental ptogramming...
 
				(TM) They said maybe... A: 
				Laura had more advanced work done on her.
 
 Q: (V) That opens up a whole new can of worms.
 (L) And what do you 
			mean by that?
 A: Not now.
 
 Q: (T) Maybe they want to go on with...
 (L) No, they’ve told me 
			before; they’re not going to tell me.
 (M) Were you Greenbaumed?
 (L) 
			No. Who did this work, can I have that? Can I know that?
 A: 
				Consortium.
 
 Q: (L) Is there any possibility, to some extent, that I have 
			overcome this influence at the the present time?
 A: No. Was partial, then aborted, leaving fragments of trigger 
			response
 programs that have been in remission.
 
 Q: (L) Why was it aborted?
 A: Because STO forces intervened.
 
 Q: (L) And when was this?
 A: Mid “fifties.”
 
 Q: (L) So it was when I was three or four years old.
 (T) I think we 
			should go back to what we were talking about with TM, because they 
			brought it up. ™ Am I still receiving instructions from the 
			programming? Am I still receiving programming from them?
 A: 
				Buried for future triggers.
 
 Q: (L) Is there anything he can do to deactivate this programming?
 A: Would take powerful hypnotic work. Beware of stresses of a most 
			personal
 nature.
 
 Q: (L) Do you mean sexual actions, activities might be triggers or 
			connected to this?
 A: Partly.
 
 Q: (T) Work related. All different kinds. Anything could trigger 
			it...
 (L) They said personal, most personal, though...
 (T) Well, 
			yes, (V) Wouldn’t it seem like family...
 (T) Work and jobs are very 
			personal...
 (L) No. Most personal is physical, you know, 
			emotional...
 
				(TM) Family...(T) Your job is financial, financial 
			security.
 (L) Well, that’s right.
 (V) Is your family going to cause 
			you stress?
 
				(TM) Stress, and I have not been able to hold down a job 
			since then.(V) Do you live with your family?
 
				(TM) Not any more!(L) 
			Any further clues for him?
 (T) What was it that they... what was 
			given to TM? What was he told to do, or what was the mind control 
			about?
 (L) What were the instructions?
 A: Discover.
 
 Q: (T) Is is something TM will be able to discover? Does he have 
			enough information to work on?
 A: Not by himself.
 
 Q: (L) Is his wife and the baby part of the hook?
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: ™ Is the hook attached to the physical, emotionally, spiritual, 
			or all?
 A: All.
 
 Q: (TM) Is there a physical location where it’s attached in all three, 
			in the same place?
 A: You were particularly vulnerable at the time remember, this 
			particular group
 has an uncanny ability to get to those who have parental influences 
			with a troubled past.
 
			[Phone call interrupted end of transmission, call was from TM’s 
			wife.]  
				
				Q: (L) Is she Greenbaumed?
				A: Yes.
 
 Q: (TM) Where did she receive Greenbaum programming?
 (L) Don’t even ask 
			that until you’ve read the Greenbaum papers.
 
				(TM) Never mind, 
			disregard.(L) You can get all of that just by reading them.
 (V) Was 
			she just coerced to make this phone call?
 (L) She was triggered to.
 
				(TM) Oh, I know, her father was in the Navy...(L) ‘Why are we not 
			surprised!!!’
 A: Yes. And Violette’s too, but fortunately in too low level a 
			capacity.
 
 Q: (L) Does the Greembaum influence, or interaction last 
			indefinitely throughout a person’s life, if something isn’t done to 
			terminate or halt it?
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (L) Mind programming... Where are we going to go with this, guys?
 
				(L) Oh, ok, go. What were the programs? The main programs?
				A: Must not say.
 
 Q: (L) M wants to know how extensive the Greenbauming was in her 
			case. Was it extensive?
 A: Yes and your husband, too!
 
 Q: (M) That’s just wonderful! More pleasant things this evening!
 (V) 
			I’ve been sitting in your position, where I’ve gotten a bunch of bad 
			news one night, and I know how you feel!
 (F) It’s not really bad 
			news, though, because it’s good to know...
 (V) It protects you to 
			have the knowledge. But, it’s tough to hear.
 
				(TM) Well, the next time 
			you’re doing something, and you don’t know why you’re doing it, it 
			seems completely stupid, there’s a thought...(L) Ask yourself 
				every time, why am I doing what I’m doing? Is it really me doing it, 
			or am I being...
 (M) Is there anything to cure it? Can anything be 
			done? Now we know with him, it’s hypnosis.
 (T) It is for everybody, 
			I’m afraid.
 (L) I’m afraid, yes. Reread the Greenbaum.
 A: 
				Awareness is step number one.
 
 Q: (TM) Will this Greenbauming be passed on to my son?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (T) It’s a process; it’s not hereditary.
 (L) I’m going to ask 
			this. Don’t get crazy when I ask it. Is this his son?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (TM) I’m not sure I understand, now.
 (L) And, since you, I mean, I 
			had a sense of that ummm... is this an alien manipulated pregnancy?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (L) What is the scoop here in terms of that answer.
 A: No scoop.
 
 Q: (TM) Did she sleep with another man?
 A: When?
 
 Q: (TM) Around the time she became pregnant?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (TM) How about before we got married?
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (V) I’m not understanding for a second here...
 (L) If it’s not 
			his son, then who’s son is it?
 (V) And, if she wasn’t sleeping with 
			someone else around the time she got pregnant, then...
 A: Not what we meant.
 
 Q: (L) What did you mean?
 A: Son not a programming trigger.
 
 Q: (L) ...but when you said it was not his son...
 A: Son not trigger.
 
 Q: (L) That’s what you meant, so you didn’t... his son was not a 
			programming trigger.
 (V) So that’s his flesh and blood son...
 (M) O 
			that, it is a son.
 
				(TM) OK, so it’s my flesh and blood son, but not a 
			programming trigger. A: Right.
 
 Q: (T) (TM’s wife) is the trigger; one of them.
 (L) Well, TM finds 
			himself, we all, I mean, jeez! What do we do about these difficult 
			situations that we plant ourselves in the middle of, due to 
			programming? Then we have to extricate ourselves, at great cost and 
			pain? Having done it already myself, I know how much pain...
 A: 
				No need to extricate, if necessary work is done, in some cases.
 
 Q: (L) If two people who are married to each other are Greenbaumed, 
			is it possible that they could be programmed to kill each other?
 A: Maybe, but not always.
 
 Q: (TM) Or any two people who have had the programming?
 A: The programming is mainly intended to produce erratic behavior, 
			for the
 purpose of “spooking” the population so that they will welcome, and 
			even demand, a totalitarian government.
 
 Q: (L) So, the programming is designed to, in other words, when the 
			people are just being erratic...
 A: Think of the persons who have inexplicably entered various public 
			and private 
			domains, and shot large numbers of people... Now, you have “met” 
			some of these Greenbaum subjects...
 
 Q: (L) Let me say this. If this is what we’re saying, well, what I’m 
			saying is, that ... Is this Greenbaum programming something that 
			goes along the line of what I’ve just described a part; a part, I 
			don’t think that’s all of it...
 A: In part.
 
 Q: 
				(L) Is there also the implanted triggers to activate at a certain 
			point in future time, to create a mass chaos, in the public domain?
 A: Better to discover that one on your own.
 
 Q: (L) Ok, that’s another one that’s dangerous to know right now... 
			(V) Was the person I met last week, (Name deleted), was he 
			Greenbaumed? Has he been Greenbaumed.
 (L) He was bizzare, wasn’t he?
 A: Now, some history... as you know, the CIA and NSA and other 
			agencies are the
			children of Nazi Gestpo... the SS, which was experiment influenced 
			by Antareans who were practicing for the eventual reintroduction of 
			the nephalim on to 3rd and or 4th density earth. And the contact 
			with the “Antareans” was initiated by the Thule Society, which 
			groomed its dupe subject, Adolph Hitler to be the all time mind 
			programmed figurehead. Now, in modern times, you have seen, but so 
			far, on a lesser scale: Oswald, Ruby, Demorenschildt, Sirhan Sirhan, 
			James Earl Ray, Arthur Bremer, Farakahan, Menendez, Bundy, Ramirez, 
			Dahmer, etc...
 
 
				Q: (L) Is there any particular individual who is 
			currently being programmed to take a more prominent position in 
			terms of this... A: Later... you must know that Oswald was programmed to be the 
			“patsy.” So that 
			he would say many contradictory things. Demorenschildt was both a 
			programmer and
			programmed. Ruby was hypnoticaly programmed to shoot Oswald. With an 
			audio
			prompt, that being the sound of a car horn.
 
 Q: (L) The question has been brought up, is there some way or means 
			that one can distinguish or discern a victim of Greenbaum or other 
			mind programming by some clues?
 A: Not until it is too late.
 
 Q: (L) Was SV Greenbaumed?
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (T) Yes, well, we kind of figured that already...
 (L) Yes, but I 
			was just checking here...
 (T) Is JW Greenbaumed?
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (T) And he carries guns around! Although, I’m not sure he knows 
			how to get the cartridges in!
 (L) What about MF?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (L) SH?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (L) Anybody else got any likely suspects?
 (T) EB?
 A: Now you have touched on a whole other subject, my friend. At 
			least his wife 
			is blissfully ignorant.
 
 Q: (L) What have we stumbled upon with EB? Is he a programmer?
 A: Discover.
 
 Q: (T) I think I’d prefer not to!
 (L) Is there anything further 
			you’d like to add to this subject for our edification before we shut 
			down for the night?
 (V) I’d like to know if any Presidents have been 
			Greenbaumed?
 (L) Well, we know some probably have!
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (T) How many have we had now? Clinton is number what President?
 
				(TM) 42. A: Remember, the “Greenbaum method” is one of many in existence.
 
 Q: (L) OK, further...
 (T) What did it say?
 (V) You’ve got people 
			getting hauled out and abducted, I mean...
 (L) All kinds of stuff 
			going on.
 (M) Is (Name deleted) set to go off soon?
 (L) No, they 
			told you, awareness is the first step in undoing it! Focus on that! 
			You’re aware! How many people are?
 A: It is a veritable potpourri.
 
 Q: (L) Any further for tonight?
 A: There’s much much much more to discuss about all of this, but if 
			you wish to
 stop now, that is your choice, and we will continue later. But, it 
			would be helpful if you begin that session on subjects not of a 
			personal nature!
 
 
				Q: (L) Can we plan to pick up on this subject next 
			week? A: Yes.
 
 Q: (L) Would to be better if all of those present now, be present 
			for the continuation?
 A: Sure!
 
 Q: (L) Well then, unless there is something else of significant 
			importance to say before we shut down for the night...
 A: Tom’s wife will object strenuously.
 
 Q: (L) Anything else?
 A: Resist.
 
 Q: (L) Anything else? For anyone else? No? I’m ready to say goodbye.
 A: Goodbye.
 
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			 October 12, 1996
 
			 Freddie, Laura, T M., TA., V
 
			 (Tape missing, reconstructed from notes)
 
				
				Q: Hello. A: Hello.
 
 Q: And who do we have with us this evening?
 A: Moretir.
 
 Q: And where do you transmit from?
 A: Cassiopaea.
 
 Q: In an earlier session you mentioned that we ought to discuss the 
			matter of mind control...
 A: Programming is the word you need, not “control.”
 
 Q: Tom has had some very strange events happening to him and he 
			would like to know if he has been Greenbaumed?
 A: Tom has not been “Greenbaumed,” but mind programmed by those who 
			have ties to
			a wiccan organization.
 
 Q: How does one tell if they have been programmed?
 A: Pay attention to the signs.
 
 Q: (T) What are the effects or intentions of this programming?
 A: Difficulty keeping up with the demands and pressures of life as 
			well as 
			before his involvement.
 
 Q: (T) Any specific signs?
 A: We gave you one, now for 2: wife “acting up.” Also, parental 
			problems that 
			have already begun.
 
 Q: How does one overcome or cancel this programming?
 A: The same as always: Knowledge protects.
 
 Q: In what ways will knowledge help to cancel programming?
 A: In ways directly affecting Tom.
 
 Q: I don’t understand. How can knowledge help to cancel programming?
 A: So that the awareness can be the foundation for being able to 
			deal with 
			situations, and possibly rectify some of them.
 
 Q: (L) Okay, change of subject: On a couple of occasions you 
			mentioned a group called the Antareans. Who were these people or 
			aliens?
 A: Antareans were the name given by 4th density groups in contact 
			with the Thule
			Society on third density Earth, before and during World War One.
 
 Q: What are they called now?
 A: There is no one currently labeling themselves as “Antareans,” in 
			contact with
 anyone now.
 
 Q: So, they are no longer here?
 A: No, not this particular group.
 
 Q: Okay, I would like to know why the individual who says he is my 
			cousin, suddenly appeared in my life when I first attended a MUFON 
			meeting after the UFO sighting over my pool? I mean, this was a LOT 
			synchronous. Was he sent to spy on me?
 A: Not exactly, more like this: was sent to interest you in a 
			diversionary path 
			that would ultimately lead you down a path to 4th density STS.
 
 
				Q: Well, you have said that MF and JW were BOTH involved, yet they seem 
			to hate each other, or say they do. Was this just an attack from 
			another direction, in case the JW attack did not work? A: It was also an effort to separate you from any influences which 
			might 
			dissuade you from your intended interest in JW.
 
 Q: (L) Well, was I mind programmed? You said once that I was not 
			Greenbaumed, but that something else was done. What was this?
 A: The work that was attempted was more intense, but it was aborted 
			because it 
			turned out that your frequency resonance vibration was not proper 
			for that particular type of “experimental” programming.
 
 Q: 
				Does this mean that there was something about my vibrations that 
			caused what they were trying to do to result in positive things?
 A: Possibly, in an off-hand way.
 
 Q: You also said that STO intervened and stopped this... does this 
			mean that there is some reason to protect me?
 A: Okay... learning is an exploration followed by the affirmation of 
			knowing 
			discovery.
 
 Q:
 A: No comment from “the peanut gallery,” please.
 
 Q:
 A: Not “left,” Tom, “leaves.”
 
 Q:
 A: One day, you will know this.
 
 Q:
 A: Neither.
 
 Q:
 A: 
				Closer but not close.
 
 Q:
 A: There is more than one issue here.
 
 Q:
 A: Part of the equation.
 
 Q:
 A: Through Susan.
 
 Q:
 A: This is complex, and does not “work” in the way you envision.
 
 Q:
 A: You are making positive moves.
 
 Q:
 A: Partially.
 
 Q:
 A: Both. Careful there!
 
 Q:
 A: 
				With what is available.
 
 Q:
 A: Your pool.
 
 Q:
 A: Impatience.
 
 Q:
 A: You are doing just fine.
 
 Q:
 A: 
				Is this what you expect?
 
 Q:
 A: Not necessary.
 
 Q:
 A: Yes, but you are not showing faith or patience.
 
 Q:
 A: Ask Anna.
 
 Q:
 A: Then what do you think?
 
 Q:
 A: 
				Okay.
 
 Q:
 A: Not all.
 
 Q:
 A: And he is correct!
 
 Q:
 A: 
				Never you mind.
 
 Q:
 A: Must say this.
 
 Q:
 A: Because his situation is complex and precarious.
 
 Q:
 A: Sometimes.
 
 Q:
 A: He needs you for “fine tuning.”
 
 Q:
 A: Discover.
 
 Q:
 A: More through your given, and learned, talents.
 
 Q:
 A: Not for this session. Good Night.
 
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 November 23, 1996
 
			Freddie, Terry, Jan, Alice, Laura, Ark via compute4
 
				
				Q: (L) Hello.
			A: Hello.
 
 Q: (L) And who do we have...
 A: Tonno.
 
 Q: (L) And where do you transmit from?
 A: Cassiopaea.
 
 Q: (L) We have quite a variety of questions this evening. The first 
			is regarding the difficulties with UFL and the financial 
			arrangements. Will this work out so that he can be here the 1st of 
			February, as planned?
 A: Maybe a slight delay.
 
 Q: (L) And the personal finances?
 A: You will see.
 
 Q: (L) You said before that her actions would accelerate the legal 
			process.
 A: In progress.
 
 Q: (L) It looks now as though the legal affair will not be over 
			before he comes here... this distresses me.
 A: These are things you must wait to see.
 
 Q: (L) Okay, is there anything you would suggest in regard to any of 
			his situation?
 A: Slow down for strength of mind.
 
 Q: (L) Okay, switch gears. Can you comment on the strange nature of 
			the events of the past two weeks...
 A: Learning is fun.
 
 Q: (L) Was PZ abducted in my house as he claims.
 A: Probe further and you will know.
 
 Q: (L) Okay, talk to P. Why is his mother going off into psychotic 
			behavior?
 A: Not psychosis, neurosis.
 
 Q: (L) Well, then I guess we are supposed to be figuring it out as 
			we go...
 A: Yup!
 
 Q: (T) Is Fearon Hicks dead? [UFO researcher of our acquaintance who 
			went out to investigate Area 51 about 6 months previous to this 
			session.]
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (L) Did he commit suicide as we were told?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (L) Was he murdered?
 A: 
				No.
 
 Q: (T) Was it an accident?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (L) Well, how does one get hung by the neck if it is not an 
			accident or suicide or murder?
 A: He was not hung.
 
 Q: (T) That’s what I figured. But he IS dead?
 A: 
				Yes.
 
 Q: (J) How did he die?
 A: Stroke.
 
 Q: (T) Well, I can believe that. He popped every pill he could find. 
			He was in terrible health.
 (T) What is wrong with my computer?
 A: Offset files. Tangled web, being fed by incorrect steps to 
			correct. Need to 
			back up all data, then clean drive. Shortcuts won’t do it, and it is 
			not as tedious as you think. But not doing it will be! [This 
			suggestion was followed, and worked.]
 
 Q: (T) Thank you...
 A: You are welcome... Minor Cassiopaean “glitch,” sorry!
 
 Q: (T) About Flight 800. Pierre Salinger claims that the info 
			floating around on the internet is accurate. He says that the Navy 
			downed the flight.
 A: Close. Pierre Salinger is an impeccable journalist and not one to 
			“fly off 
			the handle.”
 
 Q: (T) Very true. And that is why I am amazed that the rest of the 
			journalism community is attacking him.
 A: Why should you be amazed? They are “bought and paid for.”
 
 Q: (T) What did happen to flight 800?
 A: 
				This was the result of an experiment gone awry. So was KAL “007” 
			in 1983.
 
 Q: (L) What was the nature of the experiment?
 A: Testing of secret impulse guidance system using civilian airliner 
			as an 
			arbitrary “bounce” guidance target. Instead, it became the “homing” 
			target, and a different aircraft became the bouncer. This was 
			because the programmers did not anticipate the lower than expected 
			altitude of the 747. Warning: this must stay in this room for the 
			present!!!!!!!!!! The facts will eventually be discussed by others. 
			At that time, the danger is lifted. [At this point, it has been 
			discussed in the exact same terms as described here in a reputable, 
			national magazine.] Now, about KAL 007... that one is not dangerous 
			to know. The plane was deliberately instructed to fly off course in 
			order to trigger the Soviet’s Pacific air defense system, to “see 
			what they were made of” in that area. The plane was lost, but the 
			experiment worked. They did not expect them to shoot down a civilian 
			airliner. Now, all moving targets create electronic impulses. These 
			can be “read” by the proper extremely high tech equipment. Older 
			radar guided systems are subject to malfunctions in weather 
			conditions that are severe, as one example. Also, the impulse system 
			is an offshoot of the electromagnetic pulse experiments being 
			carried out at Montauk, Brookings and elsewhere as part of the HAARP 
			project! In connection with Pentagon missile tests, HAARP has many 
			interesting tie-ins, not the least of which is your cell phone 
			towers. Now, the homing target can be any moving object. It can be 
			whatever is entered on the computer. It can be a squirrel in a tree, 
			a jogger on the beach, a building, whatever you want. The system 
			looks for any moving target in order to establish recognition to the 
			computer, in order to establish recognition of match pattern of 
			pulse. TWA 800 was flying at the exact same altitude that was 
			supposed to be designated for the “drone” craft. The drone plane was 
			fartehr out at sea. The “bounce” target was to be any moving object 
			in the air within 400 square miles.
 
 Q: (L) So, TWA 800, through a series of problems, happened to find 
			itself at the right altitude, a restricted altitude, within the 
			parameters of the experiment. Anything further on this?
 A: 
				Not for now.
 
 Q: (L) Okay, let’s move on to Courtney Brown.
 (T) We all know who he 
			is, and what he is writing about in regard to remote viewing... what 
			is it all about?
 A: Vague.
 
 Q: (T) Is the book Courtney Brown wrote, “Cosmic Voyage,” concerning 
			the Martian population...
 A: It is true that there are underground bases on Mars, but they are 
			Orion STS.
 
 Q: (T) Are there Martians as portrayed by Courtney Brown?
 A: Not exactly. He is portraying the Orion STS as the Martians.
 
 Q: (T) Is Courtney Brown a government disinformation agent?
 A: More as an “agent provocateur.”
 
 Q: (T) Is he working for the government?
 A: Not directly, and remember, the government is not one entity.
 
 Q: (L) Who is primarily backing Courtney Brown?
 A: Rockefeller group.
 
 Q: (L) And, is Mike Lindemann and company part of this Rockefeller 
			group at this time?
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (L) Linda Howe?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (T) Did Courtney actually do remote viewing to obtain the 
			information in the 
			book?
 A: Not really. Not needed.
 
 Q: (T) Does this mean that the whole story is concocted on his part?
 A: Semi. Elements of it are factual.
 
 Q: 
				(T) Yes. I could see that there were factual elements. I could 
			also see that there was a LOT that was questionable. that conflicts 
			with EVERYTHING else that has come out from other researchers. This 
			is all totally twisted and different.
 A: Close.
 
 Q: (T) Is Courtney able to do remote viewing?
 A: 
				Yes.
 
 Q: (T) But he did not use it with this book?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (T) So, the book was made up the way it is. It is a story. Some 
			factual information, some invented information, some pure BS thrown 
			in to fluff it out. So, the book is NOT an account of work that has 
			come from remote viewing sessions?
 A: No, but not needed.
 
 Q: (L) You have said twice that remote viewing was not “needed.” 
			Where did he get his information?
 A: Secret sources. Agents of the nation “of the third eye.”
 
 Q: (J) What or who - is the “Nation of the Third Eye?”
 A: Terran civilization under the surface.
 
 Q: 
				(L) Now, wait a minute. I remember that when they said the Aryans 
			were brought from Kantek, and that they were “sturdier,” or 
			something like that, and I remarked that it seemed that they would 
			be less sturdy - and the C’s answered “on the surface.” Now, that 
			has always bothered me. I don’t think they meant “surface 
			appearances.” Have the Aryans been glorified as the “master race” 
			because they are more suited to living underground?
 A: Close. All types there are “Aryan.”
 
 Q: (L) Okay, is this a Terran underground civilization that has been 
			‘managed’ by Orions, or did it develop on its own?
 A: One at a time.
 
 Q: (L) Did the underground civilization develop on its own?
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (L) Is it managed or manipulated by Orions as well?
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (L) Are these “managers” Orions from other densities?
 A: Yes and no.
 
 Q: (L) I don’t understand. Are there some that are 4th and some that 
			are 3rd?
 A: The human types there are “bi-density.”
 
 Q: (L) Holy Shiite Moslems!
 A: Grays and Lizards are 4th density. They can “visit” 3rd density, 
			but they 
			must keep returning to 4th in order to “regenerate.”
 
 
				Q: (T) Are you 
			saying that the human/Aryan types can exist as long as they want in 
			any density? A: In 4th and 3rd.
 
 Q: (L) They can move back and forth, existing with equal ease on 
			either density?
 A: Well, not with “equal ease,” because 4th density is easier, 
			naturally.
 
 Q: (T) So, the information Courtney Brown was given to write this 
			quasi fiction book, is about the Aryans and not about the Martians?
 A: “Martians” is easier to understand for the less well- informed, 
			not to 
			mention any discussion of the densities!
 
 Q: (T) Absolutely. Martians are easier to accept. A lot easier to 
			understand than densities!
 (L) Okay, Third Eye. What is this?
 A: That is what they call themselves when pressed for an explanation 
			by surface 
			types, such as yourselves. They were the inspiration for Masonic 
			lore and Illuminati, too.
 
 Q: (L) Does this “Third Eye” designation have a connotation of third 
			eye abilities as we understand them?
 A: Psychic.
 
 Q: (T) Does Courtney know he has been had?
 A: He has not been “had.” He is under the employ of those who pull 
			the levers, 
			so to speak.
 
 Q: (L) You said “pull the levers.” Is Courtney Brown a robot, 
			Greenbaumed, mind-controlled, implanted, or any or all of the above?
 (T) Or is he just foolish?
 A: No. Not so foolish, he does not worry aout paying the power bill. 
			As Forest
			Gump said: “Stupid is as stupid does.”
 
 Q: (L) Are you implying that I am foolish or stupid because I DO 
			worry about paying the power bill?
 A: No, we are not implying that you are stupid, or foolish, for that 
			matter... 
			But, Courtney Brown is not either. Who is he hurting? And, he has 
			hit the jackpot with this one. Knowledge can be procured by reading 
			literature, then analyzing it.
 
 Q: (T) Is the time table that he has given correct?
 A: Close.
 
 Q: (T) So, the powers that be are going to follow this time table 
			and present the Aryans as Martians?
 A: No.
 
 Q: 
				(L) Are the Aryans going to present themselves as Martians?
 A: Initially. In order for the Terrans to get used to the idea of 
			EBEs.
 
 Q: (T) But, they are not the good guys. Beware of Greeks bearing 
			gifts.
 A: Some of the “good guys” are identical in appearance.
 
 Q: (T) Is this a subterfuge on the part of the Aryans so that they 
			can slide in quietly and take over?
 A: No, they do not need that at all. It is a way for the 
			“government” to 
			introduce everyone to the new reality of the existence of 
			intelligent life all over the place, not just here.
 
 Q: 
				(T) So, they have their own agenda, but it is not what Courtney 
			presented in the book.
 A: It does not matter. The book is a somewhat altered “New Reality 
			101.”
 
 Q: (A) Where should I turn now concerning research subjects?
 A: Not very specific, but due to the constraints, we will do our 
			best. Suggest 
			focus on larger horizon of current search. You are limiting yourself 
			because of recent trend for more caution. This is restricting you. 
			Have you delved fully into field generators?
 
 Q: (A) Which field to look at? Electromagnetic? Gravitational? 
			Other?
 A: Of course it is up to you, but why not combine the two, since they 
				are in
			reality perfectly balanced and “interwoven” in nature!
 
 Q: 
				(A) Should I abandon my work on quantum theory?
 A: 
				Again, as with all, it is up to you. But, if we were you, we 
			would not.
 
 Q: (A) Should I look into the electromagnetic railguns problem?
 A: Maybe, but first you must establish a link that you have pondered 
			before but 
			set aside. You set many questions aside. Patience serves the 
			“questor of hidden knowledge” well!
 
 Q: (A) Can you be more specific about the link you have in mind?
 A: Yes, but we will not, because you must do the discovery here, in 
			order for 
			the progress to be reestablished.
 
 Q: (A) Is the subject of my research at all important? If so, why?
 A: Of course it is! You are on a pre-destined mission as you have 
			always 
			instinctively known. Recently though, you have developed a greater 
			awareness of this. Self doubts are merely the result of crises in 
				your personal life. Please do not confuse this with your work.
 
 Q: (A) Which branch of physics is closest to understanding of 
			interdensity communications?
 A: Theoretical.
 
 Q: 
				(A) Which branch of mathematics?
 A: Two of them: calculus and algebra.
 
 Q: (A) Should I look into zero-point energy problem?
 A: That one should be “set aside.” Because it will lead to a “dead 
			end.”
 
 Q: (A) Are the extra-dimensions beyond those of space and time 
			relevant?
 A: What “extra dimensions?”
 
 Q: (A) Is time multi-dimensional? If so, is it three- dimensional?
 A: Not correct concept. Time is not a dimension. This is very 
			complex from 
			your standpoint, but let us just say that time is “selective,” or 
			“variable.”
 
 
				Q: (A) I thank you for tonight. Any other comment to 
			ponder about before the next session? A: Ask, if needed, for a comment on the last responses.
 
 Q: (A) Yes, a comment is needed. I am confused about space, time, 
			Einstein’s general relativity, gravitation and electromagnetism.
 A: Einstein’s Theory of Relativity is only partially correct. That 
			is why we say 
			that there is no “dimension” of time. As far as gravity and 
			electromagnetics are concerned, we suggest a review of the as yet 
			publicly unfinished Unified Field Theory of the same gentleman. Was 
			it completed and put into application in secret? Hmmmmm... And, if 
			so, what are the ramifications? Maybe you could make the same 
			discoveries.
 
 Q: (L) Any last comment?
 A; Slow down for strength of mind.
 
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			 November 30, 1996
 
			 Freddie, Laura, AJ (Via Internet) Terry and Jan
 
				
				A: Hello 
 Q: (L) Hello, and who do we have with us this evening?
 A: Jxoin
 
 Q: (L) And where are you transmitting from tonight?
 A: Cassiopaea.
 
 Q: (L) You said previously that time was ‘selective and variable.’ 
			What, exactly, does this mean?
 A: By “Selective”, we mean simply to think of time as if it were 
			like your 
			jukebox. There are many selections there, you may play them as you 
			choose. But you need not play them sequentially, unless that is all 
			you know. The selections are always there, are they not?
 
 Q: 
				(L) Well, that is crazy! You can’t just go around having things 
			happening in random order?!
 A: Random is in the eyes of the perceiver.
 
 Q: (L) What is it that causes us to only be able to perceive time in 
			a sequential way?
 A: DNA restructuring, as in the handiwork of our friends, STS 4th 
			density.
 
 Q: (L) Is there any possibility of regaining or restructuring this 
			DNA?
 A: Was there, will be again. You wanna know all there is to know 
			about time,
			quantum reality, etcetera? Then it is time for you, and especially 
			Arkadiusz, to study all that you can about the “crop circles,” and 
			closely network with those studying them directly.
 
 Q: (L) Why crop circles?
 A: The answers to all the questions are, or will be there.
 
 Q: (L) You said that crop circles represented thoughts from 6th 
			density. What does this mean?
 A: We are compiling an almanac as well as a manual for the entire 
			terran
			population there. The reason we are doing this, is that there are 
			millions who want to know the answers on the eve of the Grand Cycle 
			Transformation. However, there are precious few that have chosen to 
			try this form of communication, thus opening up a conduit.
 
 Q: (L) Well, how many people are going to be able to understand?
 A: But it would not be in form with Prime Level 7 Directive to limit 
			entirely 
			the availability of supreme knowledge!!!
 
 Q: (L) So you are trying to put the entire story out there for all 
			the world to see?
 A: Not “trying,” we are, my dear.
 
 Q: (L) Okay, crop circles are a language, so to speak. Are they in 
			some way related to mathematics?
 A: Mathematics is the one and only true universal language.
 
 Q: (L) Well, I just don’t see how they can be decoded.
 A: In this room is all the mental power needed, with addition of 
			another “room” 
			in Wroclaw, of course, that is needed to “crack” the code of our 
			circles.
 
 Q: (L) How do we start?
 A: All one needs is a foundational point to build a computer 
			program. And we 
			have given you this already.
 
 Q: (L) But nobody wants to hear what we have been saying!
 A: Well, the circles are undeniable in their existence, our 
			communication with 
			you is deniable.
 
 Q: (L) Well, if they don’t want to hear it as it is channeled, what 
			makes the crop circles different?
 A: Not point. If you can crack the code, this becomes an undeniable 
			language 
			that is ongoing, consistent, and demonstrable.
 
 Q: (L) So, you mean that if we can show what they mean, have it make 
			sense, and then interpret others as they come into being, or show 
			others how...
 A: Self explanatory and yes.
 
 Q: 
				(L) At one point you mentioned that I needed to learn 
			mathematics, which can be a years long effort. And now, Ark is a 
			mathematician. Was this a clue that Ark was to be part of this?
 A: Ark was coming into the picture all along. All is eternal, time 
			is 
			selective. We can see the entire jukebox menu selection at all 
			“times.”
 
			[Break, Ark joins group]  
				
				Q: (L) Ok, Ark has a question: how does one distinguish an authentic 
			crop circle from a fake one? A: Authentic ones are intricate in design and meticulously in 
			meticulous in the 
			detail of their construction. The reality is that there have only 
			been a few “fake” crop circles in the entire history of the 
			phenomenon world wide, any way.
 
 
				Q: (L) Ark asks: to crack the code, 
			is it sufficient to have a collection of pictures? I’m sure he means 
			crop circle pictures. A: Yes, to start with.
 
 Q: 
				(L) Ark says, to crack the code, we need an example. Can you 
			point some out?
 (T) Example, as in crop circle pictures?
 (L) Well, 
			no, how to crack it, or whatever.
 A: Please review transcripts.
 
 Q: (L) Can you tell us, I’m curious, too. What is it, is it about 
			the using mathematics, or is it about something else?
 A: You asked for interpretation of specific crop circles pictures 
			before. 
			Remember?!?
 
 Q: (Jan) We already did that, I already did the graphics for the 
			ones we asked about last time. I have a whole file with nothing but 
			crop circles. Didn’t you send that to him? That’s what we’re talking 
			about. We need other pictograms to ask about.
 (T) Oh, I know what we 
			need. It’s not just pictures of crop circles, we need the dimensions 
			of the crop circles as well. You can’t do anything mathwise if you 
			don’t know how big or whatever.
 (Ark) If Einstein’s relativity is 
			only partly correct, as pointed out last time, and this is because 
			of the variable ‘time’, does this imply that the theory of 
			relativity based on Galilei group is better than that based on 
			Lorentz group?
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (L) Why?
 A: 
				Because of the symmetric calculations they used as a basis for 
			their efforts.
 
 Q: (T) Where has the Lorentz group gone wrong?
 A: Too complex to answer.
 
 Q: (A) Is entropy the key concept that must be included into the 
			unified field theory in order to include other densities into the 
			equations?
 A: Need to back up and reflect before proceeding. There is still a 
			“missing 
			link” that is earlier in the process. Any mathematics problem will 
			collapse if there is a missing link.
 
 Q: (L) Well if he goes back and finds that missing link, will he 
			then need to include entropy into the equation? Into the theory in 
			order to include other densities?
 A: Must find link before answer is given, otherwise it is useless 
			information.
 
 Q: (A) Can decoding of information from crop circles be automatized 
			completely? Can this be done by a computer program, without human 
			intervention, with out work of mind?
 A: Not likely, and what would be the benefit? Learning is necessary 
			for 
			progress of soul. Remember, we are not here to lead by the hand. We 
			will help, but some answers are for you to decipher, and you have 
			been extraordinarily good at this, my Arkadiusz, since very early 
			childhood. This is how you are building your power center. All there 
			is is lessons and learning is fun. More fun even than teaching.
 
 Q: (A) Should I look into sono-luminescence? Are there causal time 
			loops?
 A: Q1: Yes. Q2: On the right track, now blend or unify. No 
			polarities, please.
 
 Q: (T) No polarities?
 (L) I have no... none of us knows anything.
 
				(T) That’s absolute.(J) What?
 (T) Well, if you don’t have 
			polarities, then it’s absolute. It doesn’t matter if the numbers are 
			minus or plus. We’re dealing in absolutes.
 (A) So, cracking the code 
			is to be computer- assisted mind work, that is, human 
			interpretation, assisted by computer program. Which branch of 
			algebra will have to be used for that?
 A: Not necessary to use algebra here.
 
 Q: Anything further on that? We should let him ask, actually...
 A: Such as?
 
 Q: (A) I need guidance here. Can you give me some more specific than 
			just work!
 A: Please be more specific as to where, or with what, or how you 
			wish to have 
			guidance. All will be well and soon.
   
				[AJ signs off for the evening]
				 
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