December 8, 1996

Freddie, Laura, Terry, Jan, Alice

Q: (L) Hello.
A: Hello.

Q: (L) Who do we have with us this evening?
A: Honnorra.

Q: (L) And where are you from?
A: Cassiopaea.

Q: (L) We’ve been discussing the crop circles, and would like to know if you have any input on that subject? Input on what we’ve discussed, what we think to this point, and just basically any info?
A: Must begin with specific questions.

Q: (L) Ok, do the multiple perimeters represent multiple densities?
A: Partly.

Q: (L) Are the crop circles themselves like antennae, or like homing devices for energy or thought patterns?
A: No.

Q: (L) Is the chronology of their appearance important?
A: Semi.

Q: (L) Is their location on the planet, in terms of longitude and latitude, significant?
A: Yes and no.

Q: (L) In what way yes?
A: Location, not latitude and longitude... Those are merely measure markers.

Q: (L) If the location is signigficant, what is it about the location that is significant?
A: Magnetic generators of bonding frequency.

Q: (L) Are you saying that magnetic generators of bonding frequency are located at those places, are in those places?
A: Port through them.

Q: (L) OK, location and chronology...
A: Why have you not brought up Stonehenge?

Q: (L) Well, we talked about Stonehenge before, that it was an energy transducer, so to speak. So, was Stonehenge put there because of the location, or did Stonehenge create...
(T) Why don’t you just ask what it is about Stonehenge?
(L) Okay, what is it about Stonehenge?
A: Location attracted those spirit types on the proper frequency, who in turn, placed stones in proper location to receive the coded communications in code telepathically, in order not to have to chase around the countryside reading encoded pictographs.

Q: (L) What was the technique used within the circle to receive the information telepathically? [Planchette spiraled in, and spiraled out.]
A: Transcendent focused thought wave separation.

Q: (L) OK, so that you’re saying that moving in a spiral...
A: The spiral serves to translate message by slowing down the wave and focusing thought wave transference energy. Utilizes/transduces electromagnetic waves, the conduit, by breaking down signal from universal language of intent into language of phonetic profile. This is for multiple user necessity.
 

Q: (L) Multiple user necessity implies that a number of people must do the spiral. Is that correct?
A: No. Must hear and feel and understand precisely the same thing. The molecular structure of the rock, when properly sculpted sing to you.
 

Q: (L) Is there any possibility that Stonehenge still has any capacity along this line?
A: Has fragmented energy only.

Q: (L) Well, that’s what I would imagine.
(T) Question. Last week you mentioned that the majority of the crop circles are real, that very few are hoaxes. Am I to believe then, that the method that is used to create the circles that everybody’s looking for, that there are multiple methods being used, depending on who or what is available at the time the circle is created? In other words, Doug and Dave may have actually made legitimate crop circles, only they don’t know it, because they think they went out and made it their way.
A: No.

Q: (T) I just wondered if there’s multiple things going on here.
(L) No, I think it’s all...
(J) So, is there only one method for a true crop circle?
A: Reading instead of listening... decipher rather individually than than comprehend universally... crop circles rather than Stonehenge!!!
 

Q: (L) Are you saying that this is the method to pursue now, since of course Stonehenge is not available?
A: How are you going to pursue. Who is going to believe you?

Q: (L) Is that it? In other words, how are we going to...
A: Ok, folks, let’s try to picture Laura and Ark trying to drag 500 ton rocks around New Port Richey?!?

Q: (T) Maybe they’ll drag themselves!
A: No, for that, you must “hit” the right key!

Q: (L) Sound. Actually, what I had in mind was just going to England and checking out Stonehenge itself.
(T) You can’t get near it now unless you’ve gotten an okay from the government; they’ve got it all fenced off.
(Fred) Why did they do that?
(T) Because too many people were going there, like most of the other ‘ancient wonders.’ They can’t let people near them any more, because it’s destroying them. (L) They carve their names, and...
(T) Well, not just that, the fact that people touch them, the moisture from their skin and like that, it’s deteriorating them really bad. All the traffic around it was shaking the ground, they’re falling apart faster than the Pyramids are falling apart.
(L) I want to switch gears here for a few minutes...
A: Up to you.

Q: (L) I have to digest it at a certain level, you get to a certain point, and you get an overload. And then I’ll be able to come back and ask more about it. One thing that is pressing on my mind, and I really want to get it out of the way, and we’ll see what we come to after we have a little break.

[Remainder of session omitted, questions relating to legal matters.]

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December 14, 1996

Freddie, Laura, Terry, Jan

Q: (L) Hello.
A: Hello.

Q: (L) And who do we have with us?
A: Usarro.

Q: (L) And where are you from?
A: Cassiopaea.

[Advice to Terry and Jan about upcoming Christmas trip]

Q: (L) Ok, and I have been doing a tape a day, I have been an extremely good girl. I just wanted to point that out to you guys.
(T) Send Santa! (L) Yes! Send Santa!
(J) Well, Santa already came!
(L) Oh, I know, but we want millions of dollars here!
A: Yes.

Q: (L) We want ‘Lotto Santa!’ (T) Yes, the regular Santa doesn’t bring those kinds of things!
A: Gotta hava lotto patience!

Q: [Groans at bad pun]
A: But, patience pays, yes?

Q: (L) Oh, yes it does.
(T) Now, you’ve just got to find out what numbers to be patient with!
(L) Got any numbers to be patient with?
(J) Oh, you know they’re not going to tell you that...!
A:  ... 6 digits between one and 49. Take your pick, there’s 13 million of them!

Q: (L) Along the lines of some of the things that I have been working on recently, I’d like to ask if there’s any more information you can give to us about the hypnotic-opener- strobe effect, and what it is preventing us from seeing. Is this one of the things that keeps us from expanding into the next density, in terms of awareness?
A: Not related to that. You see, the souls that are affected by all these “cloaking” techniques are vibrating on a low level anyway. The point is to block those who are blockable.

Q: (T) We’re not blockable?
(L) Is there anything we can do to avoid this blocking?
(T) We’re not being blocked...
A: You are not blockable.

Q: (T) We are not being blocked. We’re beyond the blocking.
A: If you were, would you be doing this?

Q: (T) That type of blocking technique doesn’t work on us. There may be other blocking techniques, but that particular stuff doesn’t work. We either see or don’t see stuff, because we are either meant or not meant to see it. We don’t see UFO’s anymore, because we don’t need to.
A: Not necessarily true.

Q: (L) OK, what is not necessarily true? Why don’t we see them any more?
A: Don’t does not equal won’t. If a Buick does not go by, you don’t see that, either! And if you are inside, doing the laundry when Mr. Jones decides to take the old “Electra” for a spin, you do not see him, or his precious car, do you?
 

Q: (L) I don’t care, I’ve seen enough!
A: Oh, yes, you do care!!!

Q: (L) OK, yes, I care, but I’ve seen enough, I believe, I believe!!!
A: It is not up to you whether you want to see them or not. If they want you to see them, you will!

Q: (T) So, if they want us to see them, we’ll see them!
A: Yes, and they will, and you will!

Q: (T) They will and we will... yes, but, there’s a blocking technique being used on people to lower the vibrational frequency to prevent them from seeing them, right?
A: The blocking technique is for many things.

Q: (T) So that people do not understand what’s going on around them.
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What else?
A: That is it, in a nutshell. See and know and think or... See, know and think that which is desired.

Q: (L) Yes, and you know it’s there. OK, let me jump over to this other subject of the number 33 and the number 11. Is there anything beyond what was given on 11-11-95, that you could add at this time, about any of the mathematics or the use of these numbers?
A: Prime numbers are the dwellings of the mystics.

Q: (L) What do you mean, “prime numbers are the dwellings of the mystics?”
A: Self-explanatory, if you use the tools given you.

Q: (L) How can a number be a dwelling?
A: Figure of speech. [Planchette spirals several times, vigorously] And how interesting that we have a new “cell” phone company called: “Primeco.”
 

Q: (L) And how does a cell phone company called “Primeco” relate to prime numbers being dwellings of mystics?
A: Not for us to answer.

[Word association by group: encryption, cells of monks, prisons, prime number divisible by one or self]

Q: (L) Is encryption the key?
A: Oh, there is so much here. One example is: “Snake eyes” is not so good as 7,11, eh?

Q: (T) They are all prime numbers, too; seven and eleven.
(L) What kinds of documents or writings... or what would be applicable...
A: No, Laura you are trying to focus, or limit the concept, my dear. Think of it, what is the Judaic Christian legend for the creation of a woman?
 

Q: (L) That woman was taken from the rib of Adam. That Eve was created from the rib of Adam.
A: Ever heard of a “prime rib?”

Q: [Groans] (T) I hate being in kindergarten and not knowing what the subject is. Ok, prime rib. We have a prime rib, so...
A: What happens in a “Primary.”

Q: (L) An election. You narrow down the candidates. What happens in a primary?
A: Who gets “picked” to run?

Q: (L) Ok, keep on...
A: “Prime Directive?”

Q: (L) OK.
A: “Prime time?”

Q: (L) The first, the best... and...
A: Not point

Q: (L) I know that’s not the point! Is what we’re saying here, is that we can use these prime numbers to derive something out of something else?
A: We told you about the mystics.

Q: (T) They’re using prime numbers to...
(L) Oh, ok, I get it. So, mystics... the mystics, the mystical secrets... dwell in the prime numbers if used as a code.
A: Name the primary mystical organizations for key to clue system.

Q: (L) ...key to clue system?
A: Yes.

[We named: Catholicism, Christianity, Judaism, Cabalism, Sufism, The Koran, Mysteries. Laura realized that she had just set aside the book “Understanding Mysticism,” it was next to a book on Caballah on the bookcase in the room. Jesuits, Masons, Knights Templar,Rosicrucians]

Q: (L) All right. With our little list that we’re making, are we on to something, or are we completely off track?
A: Yes, now check out those crop circles photos... any prime number combos
there?

Q: (L) Do you mean in terms of dimension, or do you mean in composition?
A: Composition and dimensions... anything you can find.

[Discussion: Sacred geometries, all sects listed use prime numbers. John 3:16-19, Corinthians 13. Genesis, Ch.2, verse 22 “rib taken from the man and made woman” - 2 is the only even prime number. Ch 3, v5...”your eyes shall be opened and ye shall be as the gods.” (Eating from the Tree of Knowledge)]

Q: (T) ...to find a way of decoding it to get an answer, to get something, to get a message, to get something from it...
(L) Are we thinking in any of the lines of something we ought to follow, or are we drifting?
A: All are lines you ought to follow. Now, look at the photos on the wall!

[Referring to large photocopy of a number of crop circles we had pinned to the wall.]

Q: (L) OK, we’re looking at them: point out something...
A: Count the large spheres in photo three.

Q: (L) There are seven.
A: Yes.

Q: (L) And what does that photo represent?
A: Not yet.

Q: (T) OK, there are seven large circles; a large central one, and then six outer ones that are smaller. Each of the six smaller circles is connected to the larger circle by a shaft, or a line, or a conduit of some kind.
A: Add large and small spheres.

Q: (L) OK, there’s seven. Add the large to the small and there’s seven; add the little teeny ones, there’s thirteen; and then even the little teeny-teeny, the little knobs on the ends, there would be six more, so that would be nineteen.
A: Yes...

Q: (T) So, that’s another prime: nineteen is a prime number.
(L) OK, they’re prime numbers. And...
(T) Are they... just as an offshoot here, do the six circles, the first set surrounding the large circle, are those the sixth density attached to the seventh density?
A: No comment.

Q: (T) OK now, and then, outside of that are smaller spheres, each one connected one to the next, in a line. We’re looking at prime numbers here. What are we looking at? We’ve got a central one, six outer: large, six outside of that: smaller, six outside of that: tiny... Could, and I’m just thinking off the top of my head here, nothing cast in concrete, is this a representation of... a sphere, getting smaller and smaller... going that way. Or, coming in, this way. Or that way and this way. Like the infinity mirrors...
A: If you three dimensionalize.

Q: (L) It would be circles, like balls, like spheres.
(T) Ohhh, it’s an axis, an x-y-z axis! A three dimensional axis. Three-dimensionally, it would be like this [Holds up hand, forefinger pointed up, thumb pointed to himself, third finger at the horizontal] Larger, smaller, smaller... A three-dimensional axis. Are we going somewhere with this, or am I out in left field again?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) I’m going somewhere with this?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) Ahhhh, I now see this as a three-dimensional object as opposed to a flat circle.
A: Do that to the others too.

Q: (L) OK, we’re trying to three-dimensionalize them. Now, tell us where we’re supposed to be going here...
(J) Well, this first one is a spiral going out... Or a DNA molecule...
(T) There’s got to be more to it...
A: You do not have to figure this all out tonight, just some food for thought.

Q: (L) Is there anything else for...
A: Ark may be able to three-dimensionalize by computer program already.

Q: (L) Yes, well, let us get back to this. The crop circles, as I understand, are related to the code or the mystical prime numbers, the mystical dwellings, and that somehow, putting all of these things together, these different pieces of this puzzle, from so many different directions, will enable us to perceive, or learn, or conceive something that will enable us to do something. Is that correct?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Is there anything more that we could look at on this subject tonight, because right now, I just need to think about it. You get so much, and you have to digest it.
(J) Food for thought!
A: Well, you have enough to play with for now, so goodbye.

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December 21, 1996

Freddie, Laura, Alice

Q: (L) Hello.
A: Hello.

Q: (L) Who do we have with us tonight?
A: Fonorrea.

Q: (L) And where are you from?
A: Cassiopaea.

Q: (L) The first question on my mind before we get to any of these other questions is: who is giving information to Sheldon Nidle about the photon belt and the mass landings that are supposed to take place on the 31st of December and the 1st of January?
A: Sheldon Nidle.

Q: (L) It is just coming out of his own head? He is not seeing any beings or channeling anything?
A: Okay, close enough.

Q: (L) I would like to ask about this fellow Jim, in a somewhat indirect way. This is a person who corresponds with Ark on a variety of subjects. This last question that was asked was: (reading) “Do you know about any possible relation between deep space travel and DNA structure? Or between crop circles coding and CNA coding? Have you ever been told or shown something about DNA? Like relation betweeen time rate and the structure of our genes?” And, here is what Jim replied: “Yes, but I have been warned not to discuss this matter where it is open to unknown ears.” Could you comment on that?
A: The best thing for Ark to do is request “closed” correspondence.

Q: (L) Does this guy have some knowledge about DNA or crop circles?
A: Discover.

Q: (L) Okay, Mother, ask your question.
(A) There are a lot of things that I want to know, and some, I am sure, are important, but I don’t know the sequence that I want to follow.
A: Ask away.

Q: (A) So many things have happened to me, that I am wondering if something happened to my brain in this life or another that would explain my thinking.
A: More specific, please.

Q: (A) Did anything happen in another life that has caused me problems in this life?
A: The answer is yes, as with all others.

Q: (L) What happened to cause these mental problems?
A: Not mental, emotional.

Q: (L) Can you tell us a little bit about it?
A: Death of a twin in the last lifetime. Farming accident in 1880’s.

Q: How did this twin die?
A: Fell off of the ox-driven combine, driven by father. Was decapitated.

Q: (L) Were they male or female twins?
A: Male.

Q: (L) And what were their names?
A: Lucas and Lawrence. Lucas was the one that died.

Q: (L)Where was Mother, as Lawrence, at the time?
A: In the house.

Q: (L) And what kind of emotion has carried over into this lifetime?
A: Her longing is insatiable as she is always “looking for love” due to her loss.

Q: (L) How old was Lucas when this happened?
A: 8 years old.

Q: (L) How many years after this accident did Lawrence live?
A: 22 years.

Q: (L) Have any of the persons of that lifetime returned to interact with her in this life?
A: No.

Q: (L) Not even the twin?
A: Correct.

Q: (A) Emotions are not mental, there is a difference? So, my problems now are emotional and not mental?
A: Your problems are due to maladjustment.

Q: (L) From life to life or just this life?
A: They are the same.

Q: (V) Did she witness the accident?
A: No.

Q: (L) Did she see the body after?
A: No.

Q: (L) Was there any sense of blame or resentment directed toward her by the parents of that time?
A: No.

Q: (L) Was there any mental or emotional abuse that took place in that lifetime?
A: Maybe some, but it is not significant.

Q: (L) What steps can she take to resolve this maladjustment?
A: Awareness of the root of the problem.

Q: (L) Is there any other part to this event that would help her?
A: No.

Q: (A) So, all the problems that I had as a child were the result of this?
A: Some seek an environment of “punishment” in an attempt to resolve left-over issues.

Q: (L) Did she have feelings of guilt that her twin had died and she was still alive?
A: Yes, but this was not imposed by others.

Q: (L) Okay, she felt guilt, and sought an environment that would punish her?
A: Close enough for hand grenades.

Q: (L) Where was the farm located that this incident occurred?
A: Near Cannopolis, North Carolina.

Q: (L) Can you give us the family name?
A: O’Brien.

Q: (A) Let me ask this: all of the experiences that I had as a child were caused by this emotion where I was trying to punish myself. I have spent my lifetime trying to punish myself. Is that right?
A: Close. But remember, the point is, you sought out a environment that you perceived to be restrictive and unforgiving. Especially with your father.

Q: (L) Was there other karma with her father in this lifetime?
A: Maybe, but you are the one, Laura, who can best examine these issues.

Q: (L) What about between my mother and myself?
A: Ditto.

Q: (L) Well, if you guys would just tell me, it would leave me more time to transcribe tapes!
A: Learning...

Q: (L) Ohhh...
(V) Whoops, she’s growling [laughter.]

(L) Okay. Any particular reason behind the financial difficulties I had today?
A: Not really. That will soon be forgotten.

Q: (L) Now, time to stop messing around. You said that “prime numbers are the ‘dwelling places’ of the mystics.” I have been poring over this material and it occurs to me that this was put in quotes for a reason, yes?
A: We put in quotes what we want further examined.

Q: I was thinking that this could be a clue on several levels. Could it be a clue to identify people and interactions?
A: Maybe.

Q: (L) And, also as a means of decoding coded written material?
A: Sometimes.

Q: (L) Would this written material be some that is channeled? Or, more formal and general writings of mystics. Could it be, in other words, that they might write in a casual way and not be aware that they are channeling or writing in code?
A: Maybe.

Q: (L) I dug around about the Templars and have, more or less, come to the conclusion that they were just a smoke screen, and that something else was going on at the time that WAS important. I also think that they have been resurrected from time to time and dusted off and blamed for for all this secret knowledge that is supposedly lost... am I on to something here?
A: Close.

Q: Who or what brought about the end of the Knights of the Temple?
A: Rosicrucians move as a “thief in the night.”

Q: (L) But, as I understand it, the Rosicrucians did not come into being until after the end of the Templars...
A: No.

Q: (L) Do you mean that the information that came out, that pamphlet about “Christian Rosenkreutz,” that is a purported fable, might be correct?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Well, goodness sake! The Rosicrucians advertise in magazines!!! Is this worldwide organization that promotes itself so blatantly...
A: Well, the “world-wide” order is not all inclusive.

Q: (L) Is there an inner circle of this order that is unknown?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are the Rosicrucians connected to the Masons?
A: In a roundabout away.

Q: (L) Are the Illuminati connected to the Rosicrucians in any way?
A: Same.

Q: (L) Of the three I have named, which would be considered the one that is closest to the inner circle?
A: Not the correct concept.

Q: (L) Do the Rosicrucians have writings in their keeping that they, themselves, do not understand?
A: Yes. So do the Masons.

Q: Would you say that the writings of Albert Pike might be interesting to decode?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is there any particular number sequence that could be used?
A: 353535...

Q: (L) Is this also a genetic code?
A: Much is missing between “point A and point B.”

Q: (L) You mean by jumping from documents to DNA?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) The Priory of Zion, that has been purported to be the progenitor or inheritor of the Templar tradition, is that a mystical organization of great secrecy and import?
A: It is a cover for.

Q: (L) Another smoke-screen.
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Getting back to the 353535 code: can you tell me more that will help me get to...
A: Better turn it over to Ark.

Q: (L) So, I should leave it alone for now?
A: Good idea.

Q: (L) I will. I wanted to get to this other subject anyway. We know that you have said that time is an illusion in 3rd density reality - that it is the 3rd density illusion - and it is involved with our DNA, which determines how we perceive it. So, it is an illusion. Yet, somehow, this illusion converts at some point into a solid reality via some mode or operation. I would like to know, at what point it converts and how?
A: You are off base. Who said it converts?

Q: (L) Well, we perceive a damn solid reality! There is STUFF that if you kick it, it hurts!
A: That perception is part of the illusion.

Q: (L) But, that is obviously not the TOTAL illusion. What else is a part of this illusion? If our perception is part, then there must also be something there to be perceived, correct?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Okay, what is it that we are perceiving?
A: That which you are programmed to perceive.

Q: (L) Is not this perception, these things we perceive as outside ourselves, are they not substance of some sort? Are they not there in some form, even if we perceive them the way we do?
A: Of course, but what does this have to do with “time?”

Q: (L) I am getting to that! We perceive a world “out there.” Trees, cars, trucks, houses, bricks, boards, blocks, people, dogs etc etc etc.
A: You left out backyard barbecues!

Q: [laughter] (L) Very funny! We perceive things out there. Of what are they composed?
A: Matter.

Q: (L) Of what is matter composed?
A: Atomic structure.

Q: (L) Of what are atoms composed?
A: Thoughts.

Q: (L) Whose thoughts?
A: Yours.

Q: (L) Everything?
A: Everything.

Q: (L) If I perceive something, and everything I perceive is composed of my thoughts, and V_ is perceiving, is everything her thoughts?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What is the difference between her thoughts and my thoughts?
A: That is what binds you. You see, it is merely a program.

Q: (L) Is it merely a program that we think we are separate individuals?
A: Not the point.

Q: (L) What is the point? What binds us together? Where does the program come from?
A: Where do your programs come from?

Q: (L) 7th density? Ourselves? The Lizzies?
A: We are asking about the programs in your computer.

Q: (L) In my computer? Different places. I get them and load them in. Are programs made - do they exist like ‘thought centers’ - and do we just load them in ourselves?
A: Why have you forgotten? 309,000...

Q: (L) Oh. You are talking about the “takeover” by 4th density STS. But, still, the point I am trying to get to is - yes we have DNA - but you can’t reprogram DNA if there is not DNA there to begin with. If there is not something to load the program into. What is the substance of this reality that we exist in?
A: You just answered.

Q: (L) I don’t understand.
A: You can’t load it into something if there isn’t something there to begin
with.

Q: (L) Fine! What is this something that is there to begin with?
A: Your previous DNA structure.

Q: (L) Where did the previous DNA structure come from?
A: The previous program.

Q: (L) Where did that program come from?
A: Review.

Q: (L) Well, you once said that it was necessary to be on a planet that had a star that was getting ready to go supernova in order to molecularize physical bodies. What I want to know is: what is this process whereby thought becomes manifest as matter?
A: This is too complicated for this medium. You need another method. Something that allows for greater word usage.

Q: (L) But, just a clue: how does thought become matter?
A: Bilaterally.

Q: (L) What do you mean by “bilaterally?”
A: Dual emergence.

Q: (L) Emergence into what and what?
A: Not “into what and what,” but rather, “from what and to what.”

Q: (L) What emerges from what?
A: The beginning emerges from the end, and vice versa.

Q: (L) And what is the beginning and what is the end?
A: Union with the One.

Q: (L) What is the One?
A: 7th density, i.e.: all that is, and is not.

Q: (L) Now, we have managed to dance around the whole thing, and I still do not know how matter comes to be or how time...
A: No.

Q: (L) How can I get where I want to go?
A: You have the basics.

Q: (L) Can you give me a couple more basics?
A: There are no more.

Q: (L) I once asked you if time was gravity?
A: Is a fence the ground?

Q: (L) Is gravity God?
A: No.

Q: (L) Is gravity 7th density?
A: No.

Q: (L) Where does gravity emanate from?
A: Thought center.

Q: (L) You have mentioned thought centers of many occasions. Is there more than one?
A: All are one and all.

Q: (L) If you have a thought center, how do thought centers related to 7th density, the One?
A: Exactly!

Q: (L) Are thought centers 7th density?
A: All is.

Q: (L) All is thought centers?
A: No. All is 7th density.

Q: (L) I think you know where I am trying to go with this and I wish you would help me out just a little...
A: We are.

Q: (L) Okay. Time is an illusion. Wonderful! You have compared time to a fence...
A: No. We compared your allusion to ours.

Q: (L) Let’s work with this allusion. Let us say that the ground is 7th density. How would we picture time in relation to this ground?
A: As the soil.

Q: (L) Related to the soil, how do WE relate?
A: Too vague.

Q: (L) How do created beings get painted into this picture?
A: Time is your illusion.

Q: (L) Yet, on one other occasion, you said that time does exist at other densities, only that it is “selcetive,” you can pick the time. Is that correct?
A: If you want to call it time, but it would not be the same, would it?

Q: (L) Okay. I am stumped. I can’t go any further now. On another subject, Ark read that phosphorus is in DNA structure. Could you comment?
A: How about if you comment on the relationship of phosphorous to you?

Q: (L) I don’t know. Is there some relationship between phosphorous and carbon?
A: Well, that is not where we were leading.

Q: (L) Well, phosphorous is an essential element for the brain.
A: Okay.

Q: (L) That is about all I know about it. I don’t know enough about phosphorous.
A: So, then why not save this until later?

Q: (L) Next question: if there were a sufficient number of people who were working on learning how to create an alternate reality or universe, would it seem to them that there was no real “shift” between the former one and the new one, except an internal shift of thought?
A: That is one possibility.

Q: (L) If we decided that we wanted a different world, could we, as even a small group, create that kind of world and have it seem that we hadn’t...
A: We have told you thus.

Q: (L) Is it possible that there are persons on the planet, here for some purpose, and that purpose is - say the negativity on the planet increases to such an extent that many people will become so sick of it that they are ready to exercise their free will and make a change and they will then be open to learn from those who have come with this intent to help and teach?
A: Okay.

Q: (L) Well, when this WAVE hits, is that going to increase the potential for the creation of a new reality, or realm?
A: Better review.

Q: (L) I am trying to get somewhere in particular and am trying to build the questions step by step...
A: Ask Ark.

Q: (L) What do you want me to ask Ark?
A: Some of these questions, to see what he thinks.

Q: (L) Tell me why he is going to know these answers?
A: It is more fun to ponder the answers, rather than the whys and wherefores.

Q: (L) You guys are making me a little crazy tonight.
A: Do you want to invite Ark to the discussion?

Q: (L) Of course.
(A) What is the function of DNA, other than coding protein production?
A: Conductor of electricity.

Q: (L) Is that the only other function?
A: Well, as you know, electrical energy can have nearly endless applications. Examples... radio waves, neurotransceiver for thought pattern programs facilitated through electromagnetic wave transmission, etc. Method used for creation and maintenance of program illusions, such as the perception of linear time as reality.

Q: (L) Is that it?
A: Send that.

Q: (A) Should I follow the Newtonian electrodynamics thread?
A: It is up to you to follow that which you are guided to follow. This is elementary. If we were in your “shoes,” we would shelve it.

Q: (A) Should I study the cold fusion problem?
A: Not in area of search.

Q: (L) Any further comment about cold fusion?
A: No.

Q: (L) What is cold fusion?
A: Theoretical, some recently claimed breakthroughs of dubious validity, though.

Q: (A) Which part of a human extends into 4th density?
A: That which is effected by pituitary gland.

Q: (L) And what is that?
A: Psychic.

Q: (A) Are there some particular DNA sequences that facilitate transmission between densities?
A: Addition of strands.

Q: (L) How do you get added strands?
A: You don’t get, you receive.

Q: (L) Where are they received from?
A: Interaction with upcoming wave, if vibration is aligned.

Q: (L) How do you know if this is happening?
A: Psychophysiological changes manifest.

Q: (L) Such as what?
A: Isn’t Ark a part of this discussion?

Q: (L) Alright! I get the point! I was just trying to help.
(A) I would like to know if there is a separate field beyond electromagnetism and gravitation, something similar to the Sheldrake concept of a morphological field or morphogenetic field?
A: Yes, and it is very close to that. It is apparent that Sheldrake was “in tune,” as are you, Arkadiusz. But you must have faith in your thoughts, as sometimes they are assisted.

Q: (A) When you speak of an upcoming wave, it is a wave of what?
A: Think of it as a wave of reflection from the beginning and end point.

Q: (L) Can you clarify that in more 3rd density terms?
A: No, see what the response is. It is his question, after all!

Q: (A) Is DNA acting as a superconductor?
A: Yes!!!

Q: (L) Any other comments?
A: No.

Q: (A) [regarding wave] But what vibrates? Energy? Aether?
A: Energy and aether are directly symbiotic.

Q: (A) And when it vibrates, then in which dimension?
A: The density 3 and 4 at transition junction.

Q: (A) If not in linear time, then in what?
A: Cyclical “time.”

Q: (A) What measures the distance between one crest and another?
A: Ending/beginning of cycle.

Q: (A) Trying to understand the universe in terms of a triality, matter - geometry - information. Is it the right idea?
A: If one thinks of matter as “living” rather than “dead.”

Q: (L) Is that it?
A: Ark questioned.

Q: (L) Well, excuse me for trying to help here!
(A) Is DNA superconducting?
A: Variably.

Q: (A) What is electricity?
A: In what sense?

Q: (A) What is elementary charge?
A: Elementary means basic construct, whether directly from the natural “state,” or indirectly.

Q: (A) What type of entity?
A: Purely substantive, as in a binder.

Q: (A) A warp?
A: “Warp” is incomplete concept. Remember what we said about theory of relativity.

Q: (A) Must I understand the nature of superconductivity? It seems to me that I must.
A: Yes and yes, definitely.

Q: (A) Is it correct? Is it in my reach?
A: Yes. We already answered.

Q: (A) That means Nobel Prize, definitely, yes?
A: We hate to say this, but... Wait and see!!! Good Night!

End of Session

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December 28, 1996

Freddie, Laura, Alice, Violette

Q: Hello.
A: Hello.

Q: And who do we have with us this evening?
A: Torren from Cassiopaea.

Q: Have you not been the representative in previous sessions?
A: Remember, individual monickers are for your familiarity only.

Q: Okay, thank you. I have a list of questions that I would like to get through fairly quickly, if possible. The first one is for Violette. She is concerned about her health and would like to have a clue.
A: Study nutrition, then see doctor.

Q: Is there anything specifically wrong that is urgent?
A: See last response.

Q: (V) It’s too bad my doctor is an idiot.
A: Then choose another.

Q: Is there any one thing she could do at this point that would help?
(V) I have been bruising a lot.
A: Iron supplements help, but do not limit to that.

Q: (V) Is ‘ruten’ in conjunction with iron important?
A: What did we say 3 questions back?

Q: (V) I had a very disturbing dream last night? Was it processing, or a facade. I was looking at things and fixing myself. And the night before, I dreamed that Laura came swooping in to save me from something that was scaring me to death. I woke up with my heart pounding...
A: Best to work to purge negative influences in your life.

Q: (L) The dream was doing that?
A: No. That is our suggestion for Violette.

Q: What negative influences does Violette need to purge?
A: Those which have tentacles leading to her representation of the past.

Q: What is her representation of the past?
A: That which in 3rd density is viewed as past.

Q: (V) Was the dream last night... I was observing and looking what I perceived as sentences and paragraphs, very logically and meticulously I was breaking things down into logical segments - once I was done doing that, I was fixing myself -my hair, my nails. Was this a positive dream? What did this dream represent?
A: When one must decipher the clues in one’s life, it takes patience and reflection. As in one looking before leaping.

Q: (V) Back in October, I was supposed to go to a retreat that you said would be positive and uplifting. But it was cancelled at the last minute. What happened?
A: The vibrations were not in sync.

Q: Was everybody cancelled, or was it just me?
A: From the point of view of the experience, the result is the same.

Q: Will she go on this retreat ultimately?
A: An opportunity will present itself.

Q: Violette also had an experience the other day where she was feeling very powerful pulling sensations toward a certain person in her past. What was stimulating those sensations?
A: Physical cycle stimuli.

Q: (V) As in menstrual cycle?
A: Menstrual is superimposed by hormonal, is it not?

Q: Was something outside of her stimulating the hormones?
A: Not needed.

Q: How can she deal with this kind of stress?
A: Spiritual awareness heightening.

Q: (V) How do you achieve heightening of spiritual awareness?
A: This is a good vehicle, for example.

Q: (L) Does general acquisition of knowledge on any and all subjects also heighten spiritual awareness?
A: Yes.

Q: So, if you are not doing it here, it does not necessarily matter, because every minute you spend learning and thinking and examining, you are heightening spiritual awareness.
A: Yes.

Q: Okay, I had a dream about Chloe and Tommy, and Tommy had come back to life. We were on a trip in separate vehicles, and had stopped at a restaurant. Tommy had gone to the men’s room and had been gone for a long time. Chloe asked me to help her find him, and I knew where he was, but she tried the door and said it was stuck and wanted me to help. I told her that it was not stuck, it was locked and, to prove it, I got the key, which somehow I had, though I had to take it off my van key ring; it was a ‘master key.’ And, when I unlocked the door for her, she discovered that Tommy was dead, on the toilet. This was very disturbing to me. Can you tell me anything about this dream? I was thinking, that since it was so clear, that it might have been prophetic.
A: You will learn the meaning profile of this and other dreams so well that it will be akin to reading from a road map... Patience, my dear!
 

Q: Okay, can I ask about my other dream - about Freddie and Ark and I - we were driving down the road and the school was involved - something about ‘locker number 43’ - there were piles of notebooks, and I had the key to get all this information...
A: See last response.

Q: Okay, is the phone company going to accept the credit card?
A: All will work itself out.

Q: Well, if they don’t, we are in a mess because it was my stupid idea to do it this way... and if they don’t, my phone will be turned off and I won’t even be able to contact him at all to let him know what is going on...
A: And if that happened, what do you think Ark would do?

Q: Well, there isn’t much he could do!
A: Nonsense!! You know he would “move heaven and earth” to solve the crisis, pronto!!!

Q: Well, that is comforting... but I don’t see how it could be done. Now, there IS something that worries me a LOT... that Ark will come and not like me...
A: Why do you think this?

Q: Well, because I am so fat.
A: Have you led him to believe that you were skinny?

Q: No. I told him a lot of times that I am too fat.
A: If you are worried about what Ark will think about your physical appearance, you have nothing to fear, if you have nothing to “hide,” no pun intended!
 

Q: Well, I want to buy some clothes... and I want to get my final divorce paper work done... will I be able to settle with the insurance company before Ark comes so I can do these things?
A: Wait and see. Worry not.

Q: Well, you keep saying this, and I just don’t see how anything can happen the way you say it is going to happen. I am nearly going out of my mind with worry. But...
A: And when have we been wrong?

Q: Not YET!
A: How many demonstrations do you need?!? We told you to tell Ark everything way back, as you measure time, if you recall. You were suspicious then, but you did follow the suggestion, and see what happened? We will not be joyous if you are not able to develop greater faith.

Q: Well, that makes me feel like I HAVE to have faith or I will let everyone down.
A: No, you do not “have” to do anything... It is just that it will be disappointing if you become blocked.

Q: Okay, but there was something else that happened then. When I told Ark all those things, he went to the bank and discovered that he had been wiped out... she took every damn dime. So, where did faith get us then?
A: No. When we suggested it, it was well before that event. And, she did not take “every damn dime.”

Q: Well, close enough. Never mind. I don’t want to know any more on that subject. Okay, change of subject: what is the source of the apparition on the building down in Clearwater?
A: “Apparitions” are not important as to their “source” but rather their result.

Q: Well, is it STS or STO or just a chemical anomaly? But you say that is not important - the result is. What is the result.
A: Have you not witnessed it?

Q: Well, I can’t tell what is in the hearts and minds of people, all I see is a lot of people making money off of it. How can I know whether...
A: Them you must think that the result of the UFO/Alien phenomenon is that a “bunch of people are running around and buying silly rocks.”
 

Q: (F) Obviously there are a lot of different results. Most could be buying the silly rocks, but others could be learning from it either for STS or STO.
(L) So, the results of anything is strictly the result of the configuration of the individual?
A: Yes.

Q: But it still begs the question: Is it truly an apparition of the Virgin Mary?
A: Well, is it possible for you to differentiate between that which is an apparition, and that which is not. And does it really matter? Or, is “apparition,” merely a classification? Or a “label?”
 

Q: (V) Is it really there?
A: Are you? Are we? Is George Bush? Or is he an apparition?

Q: (V) Ali wanted to ask about her upset stomach and the pain she has had for the past few days.
A: Ask her to ask.

Q: (A) Why is my stomach in such a bad state the last couple of days?
A: Not your terminology.

Q: (A) Why has my stomach been so upset the past week or two, whenever I eat, and why do I have these headaches with it?
A: What else has happened in the past “week or so?”

Q: (A) You are asking me? I don’t know.
A: We are asking you to ask aloud, and more importantly, ask yourself, for therein lies your answer!

Q: (A) What is the remedy to correct it?
A: What is the underlying cause?!?!

Q: (A) I’m confused. I’m asking questions and they are asking me questions.
(V) Are you stressed over something major?
(A) I’m always stressed.
A: No.

Q: (A) It’s not stress?
A: Your response was incorrect. When you said “I’m always stressed.” Really??? This much??? We don’t think so!!!

Q: (L) Does it have to do with Patrick?
(A) Does it have to do with my dislike of Patricia and Shayna?
A: Partly.

Q: (A) I dislike them intensely. What is the other part?
A: Work related. Career direction related.

Q: (A) I also dislike my job. Is the other part of my physical problem, the fact that I see my job as a dead end?
A: Yes.

Q: (A) What can I do to correct this?
A: See the bigger picture.

Q: (A) I don’t understand that. It is not clear enough for me.
A: Current events will mean little, eventually. “This too, shall pass.”

Q: (A) Is one of the solutions to steer clear of Patrick’s family?
A: Then, all your life, you will need to “steer clear” of a lot of things. Better to learn to let “bad” things fall off your back, as in the proverbial duck’s water!

Q: (L) I don’t understand. You told ME to avoid these people!
A: You react differently.

Q: (L) Well... I can be around them... it doesn’t bother me. I just don’t choose to because I don’t want their vibrations all over me. (A) I don’t have to talk to them, do I?
A: That is not the point. One does not need to let others bother them, if on can learn to regulate absorption. Not unsolvable.

Q: (A) How can I take steps to get to the point where I can deal with them, but not so that they make me sick? It is very difficult for me to do this. It literally makes me sick.
A: Learn to laugh at that which currently disturbs you. After all, it is comical, when you think of it. Stop taking everything so seriously!!!
 

Q: (A) I always thought that I was able to deal with everything, but these people absolutely nauseate me. And, then I get mad at myself because I react to them. Usually I wouldn’t react to them. I would not even acknowledge their existence!
(L) What makes it so personal?
(A) They are so low on the evolutionary scale, that they don’t even see their own evil. They think that if anyone else sees the disgusting way they behave as wrong, that there is something wrong with that person, and not them!
A: Then, picture them as squawking dodo birds.

Q: (A) It is very difficult.
A: Not if you try.

Q: (A) What steps should I take to relieve my work stress? Do I need to start looking for another job? Is there something I can do there to make it less stressful?
A: All are good possibilities, but, look at these things as joyous challenges, rather than drudgeries.

Q: (A) Am I in danger of being replaced in my job? Are they looking to replace me?
A: What danger? Is this the chairmanship of Ford Motor Company??

Q: (A) Is Patrick at the point where he can see his mother and sister as people with shortcomings, or will he always be blindly devoted and unable to see their faults?
A: Too many thought patterns at once.

Q: (A) Is Patrick at the point now where he can clearly see what his mother is doing? See her faults?
A: Best way for one to “see” faults is for one not to be reminded by others.

Q: (A) Will he ever be able to be healthy and break away from her control, and go out on his own?
A: Well, that is quite a “wish list,” but see last response.

Q: (A) Then, the best way for me to deal with this is to cut off all connection with Patrick and his family, correct?
A: We would never limit your options thusly!

Q: (L) Why is Patrick being dragged through the mud this way, if that is what is happening?
A: Why is attack, and te particular victim, ever important?

Q: (L) Is it because Patrick is supposed to learn to overcome these things?
A: Close enough.

Q: (L) Okay, so Patrick has to learn on this, and the best way you can help him is by backing off.
(A) From Patrick, too?
A: When one protests, one facilitates the building of barriers that are an integral part of the attack. For one to have revelation, one must “step back,” and view the picture without prejudice!

Q: (A) Well, I think that my lesson in all of this is that I need to learn that there are going to be people in this world that I will need to deal with, and I need to learn how to do it now. The world is full of these kinds of people.
A: Or that you can deal with them without letting it affect you.

Q: (A) It is very difficult.
(V) Is Patrick this important?
(A) The thing is after I got him get off the drugs, after all of this happened, it really wasn’t him anymore, it was me. I felt that something was happening... usually people don’t affect me like this...
(L) Did you hear what you just said?
(A) What?
(L) “When I got him off the drugs.”
(A) Is that bad?
(L) He didn’t do it himself.
(A) I know he didn’t. And he knows he didn’t. He tried before...
(L) Is it any good this way? That he didn’t do it himself?
(A) I think so. While he was on them, his Mom and his sister had complete control of him. He is 300 per cent better... the only difference between Patrick and his family is that he knows there is a problem and he wants to get help.
(L) I think he thrives on the continuous drama of it. Crisis after crisis. Drama Queen City! Is there a karmic relationship between Patrick and Aletheia?
A: Yes.

Q: Can you tell us what it is?
A: Let it unfold. Remember, all there is is lessons.

Q: Will you tell us the number of lifetimes they have had together?
A: Oh, how about 4?

Q: Well, that is not much.
(V) Would exploring this help now?
A: Maybe, “Mom” has that talent. Go “under” to rise above.

Q: (A) Okay, thank you. I have to go to bed.
A: Good Night Ali.

Q: Now, we have a question from Ark... for his sister. Can you find her?
A: We can “find” anybody.

Q: Okay, she would like to...
A: But she wants us to advise her regarding business decisions... hmmm, seems she is quite capable, a good organizer and very pragmatic. Better advice could be reserved for other arenas.

Q: Such as?
A: Quest for knowledge.

Q: So she should be asking about spiritual matters and not material things?
A: Yes. She is a dynamic business woman... for us to advise at this juncture could harm, as we would not wish to be a crutch for those currently most capable.

Q: Anything that you wish us to convey to her?
A: Does channeling when in garden.

Q: She does?
A: Advanced.

Q: What do you mean?
A: This particular subject. Remember, souls of alike frequency vibration often travel together. Tell her to go ahead as already intentioned, it will work just fine.

Q: Anything else for her?
A: Nope.

Q:
A: Not yet.

Q:
A: Yes.

Q:
A: Isn’t it fun, Ark, to have heightened awareness... To be able to piece together more and more?

Q: (Ark) Should I seek contact with Hoagland concerning the paper by Modanese?
A: Best approach is to groove the contact with Hoagland enough so as to have open forum with him and have free exchange of ideas on all possible subjects. Suggest you make him aware of how your particular field, background and angle of experience can further quest.

Q: (Ark) Is following this link a] safe b) right?
A: Well, safety is not determined by what is followed, but rather how followed.

Q: (L) Okay, while we are waiting for Ark’s response, I have a question. I am BURNING up! What is the reason for this unbearable heat I am suffering?
A: Heat means 4th density bleedthrough.

Q: I am about to die of heat, and I know it is cold in here. When you say 4th density bleedthrough, what do you mean?
A: Oozing of faint reflections of new reality.

Q: Do you mean new or altered or changed bodies?
A: Review.

Q: (V) Are the night sweats connected?
A: Maybe.

Q: (V) Are the night sweats I have hormonal?
A: Maybe.

Q: (V) How come I can’t get a straight answer?
A: Seek and find, tis fun!

Q: (L) Back some time ago, I went unconscious in the chair, nearly passed out, anyway, and Ark sent me a message and said that he SAW me THERE! What happened?
A: Haven’t you learned?

Q: Well... is there any activity a person could do to stimulate their DNA to become superconductive?
A: No need. You would like to find an activity to stimulate Arielle to grow up faster?

Q: Of course not! She’s just a BABY! She needs to have fun! Oh, I get it. Okay. Now, Freddie had a funny feeling about M the other day. Was he getting a message about her?
A: Yes.

Q: Did she know I was cancelling her for some reason other than the excuse I gave?
A: She had some suspicion.

Q: Is there some danger to us at this time from her, as Freddie perceives?
A: Yes. Always be vigilant and proceed with caution!

Q: (V) Has she come by to spy on us?
(L) Does it matter?
(V) Well, it does if she is crazy and has a gun! Can you define this danger?
A: There are many possibilities.

Q: Well, can you list the top three?
A: Physical, psychic, spiritual.

Q: (V) You mean she would...
A: Be open to all possibilities as pathways of attack.

Q: Is it true that when Ark is here, that our protection level will increase exponentially?
A: Yes.

Q: (V) All of us?
A: Any and all.

Q: (Ark) I am confused about time. You said relativistic physics must be redone because it assumes unnecessary symmetry. What symmetry do you have in mind?
A: Unnecessary symmetry? You asked about a particular project or theorem being examined, and those involved. We said that it was on the right track, so long as the symmetrical aspects were dropped as an absolute. Meaning the framework of the project was too narrowly focused.

Q: (Ark) You suggest that what I was trying to do in Hamburg was a worthwhile pursuit, but I was assuming even more symmetry than Einstein’s relativity.
A: Then don’t assume. Remember, symmetry, by its very nature, combines both realms of possibility. It is all inclusive, rather than inharmoniously exclusive.

Q: (Ark) Is there some anti-gravitational effect in the levitron toy?
A: Not “in” the levitron toy. Rather “through” the toy. The toy is just the vehicle.

Q: (L) Well, should we spend 40 bucks on this thing?
(V) How does it work?
(L) I don’t know!
A: Antigravity is deceivingly simple.

Q: (L) So, the guy who is advertising it is not cheating?
A: Not correct concept.

Q: What is the correct concept?
A: See last response for clue.

Q: (L) So, you aren’t going to tell me any more about it?
A: Ark is the questioner, yes?

Q: Okay. Well, he thanks everyone... and says good night.
(A) I fell recently and would like to know what caused me to fall in the driveway?
A: Vertigo.

Q: (A) Is it a continuing ailment?
A: Intermittent.

Q: (A) When I had that terrible pain in my foot, in church, what caused that?
A: Thrombosis.

Q: (A) I seem to be having trouble with my memory... is this related to the emotional issues you told me about?
A: Check dietary considerations. These can either enhance or forestall the
ageing process.

Q: (A) What is wrong with my leg?
A: Circulatory disruptions; see previous response.

Q: (A) Will my eyes get any better?
A: Ditto.

Q: (V) My grandmother recently died. How is she?
A: Okay.

Q: (V) I know that was a lame question, but is there any opportunity of speaking to her?
(L) No! I’m not going to channel your grandmother! I don’t even know her! Ask about her...
(V) Is there a message for me from my grandmother?
A: Maybe, at another juncture.

Q: (L) Why another time?
A: She is not ready now.

Q: (V) Is she sleeping as you described Tom?
A: There, time exists not.

Q: (L) But you said she is ready NOW, but then you say time exists not? What is the deal here?
A: What was the first word of the previous response?

Q: (V) Ok, there as opposed to here. Where is she?
A: Fifth density.

Q: (L) Why do I not want to channel other entities... that was a strong response that just sort of jumped out... is it correct?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Why?
A: It would be like trudging through the saw palmetto bush thickets, at night, barefoot!

Q: (L) Well, that is a good way to step on a rattlesnake!
A: Maybe.

Q: (V) Has 4th density earth been in existence as long as 3rd density earth?
A: Not correct concept.

Q: (V) Does 4th density earth exist?
A: Yes.

Q: (V) And there are human beings...
A: All exists always.

Q: (L) Where is the 4th density earth, aside from being in 4th density?
A: Another realm.

Q: (L) Are there 4th density US existing NOW on this 4th density earth?
A: Yes. Us.

Q: (V) When you are on 4th density and look at the Sun, do you see the same thing we see here? When you look at the Moon, do you have the same visual experience?
A: No. Awareness is broader.

Q: (L) Well, what would you see when looking at the Sun?
A: Entire visual spectrum.

Q: (L) You mean we would be able to see all the things that we can now only see with instruments? Like the corona, the solar wind, et cetera?
A: The entire sphere from all possible angles of realization?

Q: (L) Would we be able to HEAR the Sun?
A: If chosen.

Q: (L) What does the Sun sound like?
A: Not answerable.

Q: (L) Do planets and Suns talk to each other? Are they angels and archangels?
A: Laura, let us not go over the “deep end.” [laughter] Boys are all snails and puppy dog tails... Girls are really sugar and spice, and everything nice...

Q: (L) So, you are making fun of me!
A: Sure, why not?

Q: (L) Well, are there such things as archangels?
A: Maybe.

Q: (L) Well, if there are such things as archangels, how would we perceive them?
A: Too complex.

Q: Okay, do different individuals have connections to different archangels?
(V)
Yes, are our souls born from different archangel realms?
A: No. The soul was never created. Was/Is/Always will be.

Q: (V) Well, I can’t grasp that... I mean, creation...
(L) There is no creation, All just IS.
(F) Well, there are cycles.
(V) Well, where does the substance come from.
(L) Doesn’t come from anywhere. Just thoughts in the mind of God. I mean, what else does God have to do for eternity but dream? We are the dream.
(V) Can you comment on my struggle to understand this?
A: What is the struggle? It will come. Okay, folds, for now, Good Night.

End of Session

January 4/5, 1997

Q: Hello.
A: Hello.

Q: What name shall we use this evening?
A: Njorrg.

Q: [attempts to pronounce]
A: Pron: Ny or g; “Knee or gee.”

Q: (L) Okay! Where are you transmitting from?
A: Cassiopaea.

Q: (L) Since we were discussing it, may I ask about the Kryon material?
A: If you wish.

Q: (L) Can we be more specific. Is the Kryon source one from a higher density?
A: “Source” of most things in your density is, in one way or another, from a
higher density.

Q: (L) Okay, I understand that, but what I want to know is this particular source a Being from a higher density who calls itself Kryon?
A: Infer as you see fit!

Q: (J) If you excuse the expression, you have to consider the source.
(L) Now, it occurred to me tonight while writing to J, and it rather jumped into my mind while thinking how best to answer his questions, that it was very strange that Val was virtually begging me for every session I had transcribed, and I sent them to him as they were done, he called every week to discuss them, and then suddenly silence, no responses, and virtually in the next week after the last contact, he produces Alex Collier and the Andromedans. And, the funny thing I thought about recently is that Andromeda was the daughter of Cassiopia! The only thing is, there is a core of information in the Andromedan stuff that is so similar, but it is wrapped in 3rd density garbage. Is it possible that the reason for this strange interaction is that the material I sent him has been, shall we say, borrowed?
A: Influences derived from our messages to you are to be seen more and more due to your widespread sharing of same.

Q: (L) Well, I am not objecting... I just want people to hear it, so I don’t really mind...
A: Good, perhaps, but... there is much opportunity for corruption!

Q: (L) Well, that is certainly true, considering the stuff that is coming back to me about the “Wave.” But, all my internet postings are dated, so it would be fairly easy to track. We have some questions here: Physicists talk about multi-dimesional universes. The idea is that our 3 dimensional space and 1 dimensional time is an illusion of plane beings, while the true universe has more dimensions perpendicular to the above ones. Physicists have different guesses here: 5, 6, 7, 11, 256. How many dimensions does the true universe have?
A: Not correct concept. Should be: How many universes does the “true” dimension have?

Q: (L) Alright, then. I think that from a previous session we were told that the number of universes was not countable. Is that correct?
A: Infinite, maybe, but more to the point: variable and selective.

Q: (L) Is it that there can be more at one time and less at another?
A: No.

Q: (L) Does this mean that any potential universe can be selected at any time to be the ONE that is cued?
(T) No, the “jukebox” idea relates to time. Explain variable and selective, please?
A: For those who know how, universes can be created at will in order to transmodify reality merge.

Q: (L) What is a reality merge?
A: What does it sound like?

Q: (T) Merging of realities from one universe into another? A creating of a new reality which is then merged with the old to create a new universe.
(L) Maybe it means the realities of different people merge to create a sort of “mutual universe?” Like the idea “you create your own reality?”
A: Terry is closer, Laura is playing “left field.”

Q: (L) The next question: The C’s, Andromedans and others talk about ‘densities.’ We are supposed to live in 3rd density. Does this number 3 have anything to do with 3 space dimensions?
A: Close. Means: Original definition closer to 3rd level of experience, relating material/ethereal spectrum, but denizens of Terra Locator came up with “Third Dimensional” explanation due to influences upon the subconscious mind from soul memory connnection to Akashic record.

Q: (L) J talks about dimensions, densities and states. What about states?
(T) Yeah, there’s Georgia and Arkansas... no, that’s not really a state...
A: You forgot poor little Fhode Island! Tsk tsk! Mirth!

Q: (L) Okay, does “state” refer to some state of being that entities can exist in?
A: On this, consult psychological text books for more information, if you are so inclined as this is the only area where this term applies.
 

Q: (L) Well, J has come up with the number 384 dimensions which comes from some obscure formula... he also says that these dimensions differ by entropy and that the next dimension above us is a supercondcting dimension, that there are dark and light dimensions, forward and time back dimensions. Aside from the fact that we have already disposed of the NUMBER of dimensions...
A: We suggest that J create a universe thusly.

Q: (L) Okay, do densities differ by entropy?
A: No, but maybe by “atrophy.”

Q: (L) Now, do we have densities that are superconducting?
A: ???

Q: (L) Do you mean that we need to discover in this area? Are there dark and light densities?
A: This line is not productive to your quest.

Q: (T) Well, this J does not seem to be able to grasp the idea that time is not a dimension, it is just a localized variable.
(L) The C’s said once that 4th density is “going with the speed of light.” I think I remember that you said that there was NO speed of light there because “speed” was a 3rd density concept.
A: Please... we are drifting! Tell A that “aether” is Terran material science’s attempt to address ether. The trouble is, there is simply no way to physicalize a plane of existence which is composed entirely of consciousness. It is the union of perfect balance between the two “states” or planes, that is the foundation and essence of all creation/reality. You cannot have one without the other!

Q: (L) When you say the two states or planes, you are saying the physical state and the state of consciousness...
A: Yes.

Q: (L) And you can’t have one without the other. And the state of consciousness and the state of material existence are so completely connected, that both are infinite? One cannot exist without the other...
A: Yes, connected, intertwined, bonded... Merged.

Q: (T) A structure of the universe that holds the levels together... everything is connected. The consciousness of 6th density is perfectly bonded and balanced with 3rd density, and the quasi physical level of 4th density, and the totally physical levels 3 through 1, and the total ONE of 7th, and whatever 5th is.
(L) We have four levels of physical expression, so to speak, going from the really solid, minimal consciousness level 1 to....
A: Yes, but the Terran scientists have been programmed to believe that nothing can exist unless it can be measured, estimated, calculated and represented in some way in the physical material plane. Not true!!!!!!! For example: We are in NO WAY physical.

Q: (L) Well, I also want to know why you refer to a technological device that supposedly transports someone from one density to another, as a ‘Trans Dimensional Remolecularizer?’
A: In order to reconstruct 3rd density into 4th density physical, other dimensions must be utilized in the process. Remember, we are talking about exact duplicates which are merged.

Q: (L) But, a little while ago you said there was a single dimension and many universes, and now you are saying utilizing another dimension, so the terminology is getting to be a little bit confusing...
(T) It is like a program loading onto a computer. Some programs just load straight in. Others need to create a space on the harddrive to put files that they need to LOAD the program, but are not PART of the program, and when it is finished loading, it erases all the “loading instructions.” The hard drive is still the hard drive, but for a time, the program used a sector of the hard drive, and created a temporary dimension, let’s say.
(L) Is this what we are looking at here?
A: Close. And remember, we said “true” dimension!

Q: (L) So, it is like one hard drive, many programs, loading instructions for new programs that are then erased, etc. If there is one “true dimension,” and infinite universes within it, does one particular universe exist, of and by itself, at any given time, until it is merged into a new one, or is there within this one true dimension, multiple universes as real as ours is, to which we could go, and could be there alongside ours, so to speak?
A: Yes to the latter.

Q: (L) And, can infinite numbers of “dimensions” exist within each level of density, even if temporary?
A: Yes. If you want to go back and change “history,” either for individuals or for universal perception, you must first create an alternate universe to do it. Your 4th density STS “friends” have been doing this a lot.

Q: (L) If you, being a general term, create an alternate universe, does the former one continue to exist, or does the former one merge into the new one?
A: Both.

Q: (L) If the former one continues to exist, does it exist and evolve on its own, disassociated with the second one, or this offshoot?
A: Clarify.

Q: (T) The universe you are in: you are going along and say, “I think I will create a new Universe.” You do it, and move to it, and you bring your universe with you. That is the merging of realities. But, when you move to the new universe, you are no longer in the original one which continues along on its own. The pattern of the old universe, you bring into the new one, and when you become part of the new universe you have just created, you are no longer part of the old one you just left. It just goes along with everybody else there.
(L) Is this correct?
A: Sort of... remember, one can create all ranges of types of alternate possibilities.

Q: (L) So you could create a new universe with a new “past,” even?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) So, in that way, both actually occur and you can change the whole thing?
A: When merged, the former never existed.

Q: (T) Not for the person creating the new universe, but the former will continue for everybody else.
A: Close.

Q: (L) So, for the person creating a new universe, the former never existed, but the other beings who are satisfied with that old universe, and “go” with it, are still continuing along as though...
A: Your 3rd density mind restrictions limit the scope of your comprehension in this area.

Q: (L) If you decide you don’t like your present universe, and you work like crazy to learn how to create a new one, and you do it, do you, essentially, forget that you did this? And why you did this? And forget the other universe?
A: If you wish.

Q: (L) So you can or you can’t...
(T) Going by what you just said: “an unhappy universe,” is that because your perceiving the universe you are in as being unhappy because that is the way you are and where you are at, in terms of learning, and by creating a new universe, you are simply wishing to change the way the universe is around you, and really its not the universe that has a problem, but you...
A: Off track.

Q: (L) So, the universe you are in, is what it is, and you are in it for some reason...
(T) You’re in it to learn lessons... just to change the universe because you don’t want to learn the lessons you’ve chosen to learn...
(L) Or, you have learned them and thereby CAN change the universe...
(T) When you learn, you just move on automatically, you don’t have to change the universe. The universe will change for you.
A: Deja vu comes to you compliments of 4th density STS.

Q: (L) Is deja vu a result of some sensation of the universe having changed?
A: Or... some sensation of reality bridging.

Q: (T) As you move into the new one, you have leftovers?
A: No.

Q: (L) What is reality bridging?
A: What does it sound like?

Q: (L) Is it somewhat like merging universes?
(T) A bridge is something you put between two things...
A: You wish to limit, wait till 4th density, when the word will be obsolete!

Q: (L) That still doesn’t help me to understand deja vu as a “sensation of reality bridging.” Is deja vu because something comes into our reality from another?
A: One possibility..

Q: (T) Didn’t we talk about this? That it is a bleedthrough from other dimensions... that when we think we have been someplace before, it is because in another dimension we have...
A: Yes.

Q: (L) If you are now in a particular universe that has been created and merged by 4th density STS, and there is still the old universe existing, and you feel a connection, or a bridging, because some alternate self is in that alternate universe, living through some experience... or a similar thing?
A: No limits of possibilities.

Q: (L) So it can be any and all of those things, and bridging realities of “past” and “future,” as well. Is it possible to change the past within a discrete universe, or does every change imply a new or alternate universe?
A: Discrete does not get it.

Q: (L) Well, within a particular, selected one of the universes, can you go back in time, within that universe, change the past, and have it change everything forward, still within that selected universe, like a domino effect?
A: In such a case, yes.

Q: (L) But, you said that if you want to change the past, you have to create an alternate universe...
(T) No, you asked about changing the past, and they said you have to create a temporary place to work from, a position from which you can manipulate the reality...
A: That is for specialized activities.

Q: (L) So that creating of an alternate universe was for special things, and not for a general historic change?
A: What was described is not the same as an “alternate universe.”

Q: (L) It is a temporary file that will go away when you are finished loading the program. And that is not creating an alternate universe, but rather a temporary dimension...
A: Close.

Q: (L) In our particular universe, what is the primary mode? Are we constantly shifting and merging universe to universe, or is our past being changed and reacting like the domino effect... at least in the past few years...
(T) But, we wouldn’t know if the past has been changed because we wouldn’t see it...
A: Measurements are inadequate.

Q: (L) How does that relate to my question? Which is happening? Is our singular universe being changed as in a domino effect, or is it continuously being merged with a new one and another and another... (T) What you are asking for is a measurement.
(L) Is it that any and all possibilities and will and do take place?
A: Closer.

Q: (L) Can you clarify that any further for me?
A: No, because you would simply not grasp it.

Q: (T) It is part of the infrastructure of the universe which we are in no way capable of understanding at this point. We can’t even get quarks right.
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are the words “universe” and “dimension” synonymous?
A: Yes and no.

Q: (L) In what sense yes?
A: For you, these are “grey” areas, and no matter how hard you try, until your perception shifts fundamentally, you ain’t going to get it!
 

Q: (J) I guess it is a question of faith.
(L) Are all universes “Free Will” universes?
A: If chosen.

Q: (L) Are there universes where everything is predestined?
A: Within the framework of a cyclical separation bond.

Q: (L) What is a “cyclical separation bond?” I think I’m getting in over my head...
A: Only because “you ARE in over your heads.”

Q: (L) But you didn’t tell me what a cyclical separation bond is!
A: And if we do, you will ask: “What do you mean by that?”

Q: (L) Well, you are right about that.
(J) It’s like a little kid asking:
“Daddy, why is there air?”
(L) Are there universes where time goes in the other direction, as in universes of anti-matter?
A: Why do you ask this?

Q: (T) They have been telling us all along that there is no such thing as time except as we perceive it.
(L) Well, I guess I just meant “anti-matter” universe. Okay, there are 4 physical densities...
A: No, three.

Q: (L) Okay, there are 3 physical densities, and the 4th is...
A: One is variable. Three Ethereal.

Q: (L) Okay, three that are physical, three ethereal, and one in between that is both.
A: Close.

Q: (L) Do you go from 4th to 5th repeatedly until you are ready to go to 6th, or do you go to 6th from 4th, or to 6th from 5th?
A: Because of already given data, that is elementary my dear, Martin, elementary!

Q: (L) I am NOT Martin anymore! So there!
A: You are in an alternate reality.

Q: (L) Oh, God! I don’t even want to THINK about that! That’s horrible! Does this mean that when you gave me the word “NEW,” you perhaps meant a new universe? A new reality?
(T) Well, you are because you have changed. But we’re not.
A: Why does Njorrg always get the tough assignments?!?

Q: (T) Because you are lucky!
A: Mirth iz goot!

Q: (L) Stop laughing guys... is the entire universal system, everything combined, similar to a dissipative structure, or is any part of it similar to this?
A: No.

Q: (L) Okay, in a general sense, and I know you are pulling out your hair with me, if you had hair to pull, is there something that you can tell us about what it is, other than awareness, that determines your density level, like a transition point, like a flower breaking open, or something erupting through a membrane, or is it something that occurs more gradually? All of a sudden you hit a point of awareness and “POP,” there you are?!
A: Too much.

Q: (L) Is awareness the only thing that determines what density one exists in?
A: No.

Q: (L) What else?
(T) The way you make Christmas cookies...
A: Awareness is the bond that unites the reality.

Q: (L) You have said that the heat I feel is a “growing of fibers” or a “bleedthrough” of the new reality, is that an effect that is happening in a gradual way?
(T) It has to do with the approach of the wave...
(L) I don’t quite know how to ask this...
A: Because you do not quite know how to understand the answers.

Q: (L) You have said that gravity is the binder of all reality.
A: Yes.

Q: And now you talk about perception bonding.
A: Yes. Now, try to picture how gravity is the binder of all reality!!!

Q: (L) If gravity is the binder, is gravity consciousness?
A: Not exactly. Did you know that there is no “right” or “left” in 4th density through 7th density? If you can picture this exactly, then you may be able to understand the responses to all the questions you are asking. If not, best “give it a rest.” Because it will only be productive learning when you ponder and reflect/review “later.”

Q: (A) The C’s told Ruggero that our equations, that is physicists, are only one seventh of the total. How should I interpret it? Literally? That each of our equations should get an index, 1 thru 7, and be modified appropriately?
A: One possibility. Ruggero was limiting to realm already partly charted. Time to say Good Night. You are fatigued.

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January 10, 1997

Q: Hello.
A: Hello.

Q: And what name shall we use this evening?
A: Lomorra.

Q: And where are you from?
A: Cassiopaea.

Q: Is it alright if we have a short, private session tonight?
A: Certainly!

Q: Some of these questions may be rather moot, but I would like to get some feedback. The first is about Freddie’s diet. Has he received the correct diagnosis?
A: Okay.

Q: Is there anything about his diet that should be added or subtracted that he is not presently doing?
A: Not as of yet.

Q: So, he is doing what he needs to be doing?
A: And guage by response.

Q: Now, anything in particular that I ought to do about my diet right now?
A: Be specific.

Q: Um, is it alright to fast at the intervals I have been doing?
A: Okay.

Q: Well, when I do eat I eat salads and so forth, so I think I am alright. Now, last night I had a very strange experience where it seemed that I was out of the body and doing backflips. Was this an OOBE?
A: You have had these before.

Q: Was this what was happening last night?
A: Yes.

Q: Well, it was fun last night! Is there any danger in medical tests using radioactive isotopes, either by mouth or injected? Any particular danger?
A: Only if repetitive.

Q: So, having them at intervals over the years is NOT going to give a person brain cancer or whatever?
A: Effect is similar to the radioactive exposure one receives from smoking.

Q: Now, Ark is having another hearing in the upcoming week and he has learned from his attorney that A has consulted this woman attorney. But, he had the idea that she was delaying the hearing so that the dye would wear off her hair so she could create a dramatic effect... is this the case?
A: If so, who do you suppose will buy it?

Q: Well, nobody, I guess. Is this hearing going to make any progress in the case?
A: Progress is measured in various ways.

Q: I know that, but I want to know a general time frame in which this will be accomplished.
A: Do you expect us to?

Q: I would LIKE to have a CLUE! Maybe not a time frame, but a CLUE!
A: It will not come faster if we tell you this. This is a good lesson for all involved When completed, you will understand things much more clearly than you do now!

Q: Well, okay. I would like to find out about my own case. I have NOT heard a word from this attorney. Is there anything I could do that I have NOT thought of?
A: Have you contacted them every three days?

Q: No, not every three days. I was waiting to see what they were going to do. Are you suggesting I should contact them every three days?
A: What happens to the proverbial squeaky wheel?

Q: In contacting them, what should be the approach: accusative, or what?
A: No “what’s the update guys?” Simply presenting yourself often enough will make you farmore valuable in the “settlement bin.”
 

Q: Why don’t I just fire these guys and settle directly with the insurance company?
A: Not a good idea. Without legal assistance, you would be considered a “suspect” by the insurance company!!

Q: Okay. We have talked a little bit about the Gulf Breeze Conference THIS Spring being the one we are supposed to go to rather than the one last year... This time, of course, Ark would be with us...
A: Yes, convince Ark to “foot the bill,” which he will do with happiness!

Q: Yes, I know he would like to go... but, there is a limit to how much we can spend...
A: Won’t be that expensive.

Q: I had a dream the other night about Lewis. When he was here to sign those papers the other day, he seemed to not even be connected to reality. Then I had a dream about him coming into the house and acting like a zombie and then walking up to a door and bashing his face against the door frame until it was bloody. This was so strange. I told Ark and he was concerned that L would go off the deep end. Can you tell me anything about this? What is the present condition of L?
A: We will just say, now would be a good “time” to be kind to Lewis!!!

Q: When I am kind to him, he takes it the wrong way...
A: Won’t anymore. And remember, there are varying ways for one to be kind.

Q: Anything further on his condition?
A: Is in a state of deterioration.

Q: If I am kind to him, will it help him to get better?
A: Will help to avoid all sorts of negative consequences.

Q: Is that consequences toward me and the children, or just him specifically?
A: Either/or.

Q: Anymore on this? This is causing me to be concerned!
A: Were you not before?

Q: Yes, I have been concerned on an ongoing basis. It seems that no matter what I do, he takes it the wrong way.
A: Adjust your methodology, and make intentions clear!

Q: Is Ark going to have the same problem with A?
A: No.

Q: When you say Lewis is deteriorating, do you mean mentally or physically?
A: Both.

Q: When he fell, did he fall because the attachment that was affecting me left and went to him?
A: No.

Q: Does he have a permanent brain injury as a result?
A: Yes.

Q: Is this brain injury something that is deteriorating?
A: Not the injury, the after-effects.

Q: What were the after-effects that are deteriorating?
A: Subdural hematoma recurrence.

Q: What effects can this cause?
A: Many.

Q: Oh, dear. Aside from just being kind, is there something I can do to help?
A: Suggest that he see a specialist/change physicians... Not getting adequate help, either on “homefront,” or professionally.

Q: Okay. Anything further that we should know this evening?
A: No.

Q: Mother has a couple of questions.
(Alice) Since you told me about the past life experience, and that all of my problems have been emotional, have all the mistakes that I have made been because that is what I INTENDED to do in this life?
A: Scrambled.

Q: Are you saying her question was scrambled, or that her life was scrambled?
A: Question.

Q: (A) You straighten it.
(L) No, you have to do it. That’s part of the learning process.
(A) Well, how was it scrambled? Were all the mistakes I have made in this life part of a plan?
A: No. Mistakes are made by choice, plan is merely “blueprint.”

Q: So, she had a blueprint, and the mistakes were made by choice because she made the wrong choices?
A: Yes.

Q: Well, I think that what she is trying to deal with here is her guilt. She wants to know why she has lived her whole life making these mistakes and messing everything up everytime she made a choice to do something?
A: Must be specific as to mistakes, always!

Q: You must name specific mistakes and ask about them individually. (A) Well, I am not prepared to do that. It is a blur. Just like they said, everything in my head is scrambled.
A: Not prepared due to “shyness.” Remember, we told you about the unfulfilled quest for love, acceptance, approval and to be “needed.” The reason for the failure of the quest is being hasty, impatient and stubborn.
 

Q: Well, Mother has the most annoying habit of interrupting people when they speak, because she assumes all the time that she knows what is going to be said, and, in fact, she is rarely right, and would receive ALL the information that she wants if she would just be quiet and listen. Sort of the idea of the old saying: we have two ears and one mouth so we can listen twice as much as we talk.
A: Judge not, lest ye...

Q: I understand that, but I am trying to help her to get to the issue here...
A: She must do this on her own.

Q: Okay, any more questions?
(A) Well you know I have!
(L) Well, I can’t help you.
(A) I don’t know where to start now.
(L) Well, start at the point where they left you. They said you are hasty, impatient and stubborn. Ask Why? And how can you overcome it?
(A) Why have I been so hasty, impatient and stubborn?
A: Because of past life programming. You see, this is the challenge for all those in third density existences. Some learn in any given lifetime, and some do not!

Q: (A) But, I had never heard of it!
A: Not necessary. Just follow “the signs.”

Q: (A) Is it that I am so stubborn that I cannot see?
A: Have been; less so now.

Q: (A) How can I get out of this mess?
A: Silly question.

Q: (A) I didn’t mean it to be silly.
(L) Well, you have to want to and work at it. It is NOT easy.
(A) Well, I’ve never SEEN any signs. (L) Oh, don’t start THAT. You have had PLENTY of signs! Well, is this past life experience that you described before, the same one that is at the root of the stubbornness and hastiness?
A: Yes.

Q: Can you add anything to what was told to clarify?
A: No, not necessary.

Q: Can you give her one or two hints or clues as to where she could start to release some of this toxic emotion she lives with?
A: That is part of the lesson, but it really should be obvious.

Q: (A) Is this toxic emotion the problem?
A: Yes.

Q: What else?
(A) Well, I can’t think how to ask anymore questions...
(L) Then you should try to digest what you have. Okay, that’s it.

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