November 1, 1997

Fred, Alice, Terry, Jan, Laura, Ark

Q: Hello.
A: Hello.

Q: And who do we have with us this evening?
A: Biominia.

Q: And where do you transmit through?
A: Cassiopaea.

Q: We have here the Denver Airport Pictures which Chloe took on her trip and perhaps we would like to have a little bit of an interpretation on this very bizarre figure here. Is it supposed to be looked at this way or reversed?
A: Either.

Q: Could you give us a little interpretation on this one, it is pretty strange.
A: It is a rectagon.

Q: What is a rectagon?
A: Picture uniting numerous rectangular principles of photo optic representation.

Q: What’s the point?
A: If one gazes at it long enough, they will involuntarily be placed into an alpha state.

Q: Okay. If they go into an alpha state, is there some other kind of message that the picture then conveys?
A: That is not the point!

Q: What is the point?
A: They then are open to programming of a level one order!

Q: (A) Does the scale of the picture matter?
A: It works better when one gazes at the mural itself, rather than a photographic representation of same. There are magnetic factors at the Denver Airport which play into the situation.

Q: What kind of magnetic factors?
A: Artificially contoured wave-like beams.

Q: These beams have a magnetic effect?
A: Magnetism.

Q: (A) If gazing at this picture produces an alpha state, how long does it last?
A: Indefinite.

Q: (T) How long do you have to look at the picture?
A: Each individual responds differently.

Q: (T) Does repeated exposure ... is it cumulative?
A: No.

Q: When you say indefinite in terms of time, do you mean it can vary from individual to individual?
A: Indefinite because the subsequent program is the determining factor.

Q: How does the program get installed? Is there something there at the airport that installs the program? That works in conjunction with the murals? Is the programming in the pictures? Or is it in some carrier wave? Or is it in the individual themselves, and the murals simply activate it?
A: Originates from underneath the complex.

Q: And it has something to do with the beams?
A: Yes.

Q: So, in other words, Chloe may have been subjected to some of this programming by going there and spending so much time looking for the murals?
A: In her case, no, because you warned her, therefore her conscious state was in the “awareness mode.”

Q: (A) Is any one of these photographs, or any one element, more significant than the others? Anything we ought to pay more attention?
A: All are equally important. But, pay attention to the tiny details. You will see that the discovery process is neverending.

Q: (T) I searched the web to see if there was any way to order sets of pictures of these murals and there just isn’t anything.
(L) Yes, Chloe said that there was nothing in the gift shops there either. (T) I asked her and she said that she did not actually go in the gift shops because she doesn’t do tourist things.
(L) Okay, what is this picture?
(Holds up photo.)
A: This is a pictorial representation of an essence of a concept.

Q: Essence of the concept of what?
A: Overt control.

Q: So, does this mean that overt control is NOT going to be used, since this huge ugly figure is lying there seemingly dead?
A: Phasic.

Q: It will be in phases.
(T) Is Alex Christopher’s general idea of the meanings of these paintings correct?
A: Close.

Q: (T) Is my take on what she said close?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) So this overcoming of evil is just one of the phases...
A: You should learn what you can, discreetly, about masonic principles.

Q: (A) I would like to know if the Cassiopaeans, together with other STO, are participating in some of this programming?
A: There is no need for us to participate in programming.

Q: Why is that?
A: Because we do not violate free will directive!

Q: (T) It’s 3rd and 4th STS that does it.
A: 4th, mostly.

Q: Now, we have been in a little bit of a pause mode for the past couple of months in terms of working, and now I have had this terrible blow with my computer... What caused my computer to crash?
A: Manipulative interference.

Q: By who or what?
A: 4th density STS.

Q: What was the actual mode of this interference? Was it just that the guy blew up the computer?
A: Agents and agencies are omnipresent. You were moving in a direction whereby the knowledge gained would be most compromising, if shared. We have suggested before that this forum was better served as an educational realm for you, rather than one from which to launch upon an effort to educate all others.
 

Q: Which particular line that I was following caused the problem?
A: Discretion opens the door to security.

Q: (A) Regarding this manipulative interference, what means can we use to prevent such interference in the future, if there are such means?
A: Patience with “glitches.” Remember: who do you trust?

Q: No one. Who to trust the computer to or in general?
A: Both. Next time, be not so quick to take computer to be worked on.

Q: That was the week from Hell. The cat got killed and we had a rather cool response from UCF... just kind of a really bummed out week. And I lost my ring! And I was sick!
A: Too many.

Q: Can you tell me where I will find my ring or if I will find my ring?
A: You will.

Q: Are we going to be safe going to Gainesville, the kids and everything else?
A: For now.

Q: Is there anything we need to do relating to UCF other than what we have already planned?
A: Good things take effort to achieve... bad things are easily obtainable.

Q: (A) I want to know to what extent I was responsible for the computer crash...
A: 0.

Q: [Discussion of computer crash.]
A: Patience, Laura, is not your strong suit.

Q: Well, this event just took all the wind out of me. It is like falling out of a tree onto your back. I am just totally devastated by it. I have almost lost my will to work.
A: Then the 4th density STS are winning!

Q: I’ll recover. Just give me a little time.
(A) I really want to know where and how the 4th density STS interfaced with 3rd density to cause the computer destruction.
A: Repair.

Q: You mean the repair man?
A: Yes.

Q: (A) Who was behind it?
A: We have described for you before the Orion STS.

Q: Are these Lizzies or humanoid types?
A: There is something akin to a “chain of command.”

Q: So it could be a human who is influenced by implants and thought control via a Lizzie who is controlled by an Orion...
(A) Can you see any other impending danger?
A: One needs to always expect danger.

Q: (A) General rules for everyone.
A: No! This means you more than any others!

Q: Why did they say that?
A: Arkadiusz made reference to “general terms.”

Q: Oh, so they were talking specifically to you!
A: And you, too, Laura!

Q: Thanks a lot.
Q: (T) Freddie and I got off Scot free that time!
A: No!

Q: Could you give a general indication of which direction any or all of us ought to go in the upcoming months in terms of research, or any particular clue that might come our way? What to do? Which way to go?
A: Ridiculously vague question!

Q: I know, but I tried to fly it!
(T) I would say to keep doing what you are doing and don’t let outside influences sway you from your path.
A: Good.

Q: (A) Is there anything that I am doing wrong now?
A: Vague.

Q: (J) But, not ‘ridiculously’ vague!
(L) Okay, you have a couple of teaching positions offered. Is either one of them optimal or should we pursue something in a different direction?
A: Patience pays best.

Q: Does that mean that he should not accept either of these and wait for something else. But, he can’t do that. He has to give an answer now.
A: All there is is lessons.

Q: Okay, so he’ll teach!
(A) Okay, I want to know why this Susan Brana is being silent?
(L) I think she was a fraud to begin with. (A) Okay, I want to know if that is the case.
A: Opportunity to mislead.

Q: (A) Was or is?
A: Both. Would have lead to trap.

Q: (T) Yes, that whole situation was amazing. The search I did on that word brought up so much strange stuff!
(L) Yes, indeed. It blew open a huge door to a TON of stuff!
A: Expect tentacles to attempt to reach from Poland.

Q: What kind?
A: Legal and economic.

Q: Well, if they reach over here, we’ll chop them off!
(T) That’s what you do with tentacles!
A: Not so easy as that.

Q: Okay, you brought it up, it must be an issue, so what do you want to tell us about it?
A: Redouble efforts here.

Q: Along what line?
(T) Legal and economic?
A: Yes.

Q: I don’t know what else to do. We are just waiting for time to pass so he can file. I do expect SOMEthing to happen because they were not expecting him to leave when he did and it was probably awhile before they even knew he was gone and they had a perfectly good hospital scenario set up. Was Ark’s daughter in the hospital for something serious?
A: No. Colitis only.

Q: Okay, you said to redouble legal and economic efforts... is there something I am missing?
A: Patience pays.

Q: Is it possible to go to Mexico and get a divorce? Fairly quickly? Is this what you are talking about? I know that you can get a divorce about anywhere and make it stick anywhere else with a good lawyer.
A: Yes.

Q: Yes to the lawyer?
A: Yes. Vigilance.

Q: So, we need to see Fernando.
A: Up to you, but, not a bad idea.

Q: (A) Does the redoubling of economic efforts mean anything more than looking for a job?
A: Just be on the lookout for efforts to undermine coming from Poland.

Q: Okay, we are on the lookout. Is it from any source other than A?
A: Blended. Good night.

End of Session

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November 8, 1997

Q: Hello.
A: Hello.

Q: And who do we have with us this evening?
A: Napponiz.

Q: And where do you transmit through?
A: Cassiopaea.

Q: You once made a remark that, to use the source for personal issues, would cause it to become an STS corrupted source. Now, of necessity, it seems, and that may just be my perspective, but it seems that we have used this source some percentage of the time for personal issues and questions. Has that, in any way, corrupted the flow of information and tended to sway it in the direction of the STS mode?
A: Only when excessive.

Q: And, I am hoping that you will warn us if, at any point, it becomes excessive and we need to bring it to a halt; as you have in the past.
A: Yes. Ark, more pressure, please.

Q: We have had a couple of interesting events recently on our travels, the most recent being the blowout of the tire on the interstate after we both had some sort of premonition the previous day. And, on the same day of the flat tire, and it seemed to be connected, we had two encounters with people who questioned us about the UFO bumper stickers. One of these people even came up and asked Ark if he was an alien. Okay, these were two very unusual incidents. Was the blow out of the tire some kind of attack or interference?
A: Not directly.

Q: Was the blow out of the tire some sort of symbolic event and was there some sort of meaning or lesson in this?
A: Attack is one of “blanket coverage” mode.

Q: Well, once before you stated that I was being ‘cloaked,’ and now you use the term ‘blanket coverage.’ Could you please tell me what is being implied or indicated here?
A: No need to assume nuances. Next portal: French. You should not let this one “get away” from you, lest it result in unnecessary heartache/heartbreak.

Q: When you say that I should not let this one ‘get away,’ what do you mean?
A: Neglect? Opens the door to full bore attack... Possibility of tragedy, if one who is in delicate state, as in the twins of Gemini, should be driven to drastic ends.

Q: Does this mean that we should try to prevent him from publishing anything about us at all?
A: What it means is: keep a very close watch on the situation.

Q: We are talking about Tom French and the article, right?
A: You have misgivings about this lately, and yet, you do nothing. This is a disturbing trend developing.

Q: After I agreed that he could write about me, and he has spent all this time these past two years doing the inteviews and so forth, I am not even sure that I could stop it. And, I don’t want to be in an adversarial mode with him because then what he writes would be negative.
A: Did he not promise you perusal of copy prior to publishing?

Q: Yes he did, and I will call and remind him of that, or I will write to him right away. I am supposed to have some degree of control or input.
A: This would be “forgotten” if not communicated, i.e.: neglected.

Q: What, in particular should I look for to request that it be omitted or changed?
A: You will know what would cause harm to innocent persons.

Q: Anything further on that subject? Okay, I guess that ‘blanket coverage’ and being ‘cloaked’ just means being attacked from any and all directions that are available.
A: Close.

Q: Was there any particular significance to the two funny encounters we had on the day we had the blow-out?
A: Well, what do you think?

Q: I don’t know what to think. Both of them were bizarre, but the second one was the most bizarre because the van was running hot, we stopped to check the oil, the guy came up and asked Ark if he was an alien, the van had nothing wrong with it, and ran fine when we got back on the road. It was really funny.
A: You are being watched like never before. And we have warned you before that this was serious. Still your vigilance is not “up to par!!”

Q: (A) Why did I run off the road at that particular moment? Was it because I was tired?
A: Must be more like a soldier, less like a picknicker.

Q: What more can we do? And still be living in the real world? We could lock ourselves in the house with Uzis. We could mount a turret gun on top of the van.
A: It is mental, psychic... not as much material.

Q: (A) So, what can I do to avoid such slips of attention?
A: If one is a soldier in the trenches, just how much “daydreaming” does one do when the shells are exploding all around??

Q: Okay, I think we have gotten the point. Is there something else on this subject?
A: Good. Soon you will need to “be on your toes” to an extraordinary level!

Q: Are there any further things I can do to increase the safety factor where the children are concerned?
A: This requires much discussion, as you are losing the battle there. As you know by now, the attack seeks the weakest link in the chain for the greatest assault. And for you, the children are a very weak link, indeed...

Q: In what sense? Why?
A: In many “senses,” and because of the last response.

Q: Is it because of the remark about discussion? That we need to discuss more with the children?
A: Weak link.

Q: Because of the weak link. I see. Let me just point out that I am only a human being, a third density person, and I really don’t like to have to spend all my time in a state of constant fear that something bad is going to happen to one of my children...
A: Not fear, when one is vigilant.

Q: The point I am getting at is that it is fine for me to be vigilant and aware, but if I tell them things, they DO have free will and can act against their own best interests. I am afraid that they will ignore my warnings. I live in constant fear of that.
A: Not if you discuss it with them “ on the leve.”

Q: So, we need to discuss with the children more, and level with them...
A: Avoid condescending approach.

Q: Well, I don’t think I have ever treated my children in a condescending way. I have always treated them like human beings with brains.
A: Who are human beings with brains in a subordinate position?

Q: I understand.
A: Discussion requires feedback and free associative dialogue.

Q: Just let me point out that if we spend all our time discussing with the children all the dangers of the world, watching out for all these dangers ourselves, thinking about it and analyzing it, then there will be very little time left to work. Does this project just consist of staying alive?
A: Wrong!!!

Q: There is a whole lot involved in just staying alive here.
A: Groove the channel, and it becomes “second nature.”

Q: (A) I would like to know if this ‘soon’ is a question of a week, a month, a year...
A: Indefinite.

Q: Can you tell us what it relates to?
A: All possibilities, including those dramas which are played out on the grandest of all stages.

Q: The grandest of all stages? Life? What is this?
A: Stages implies viewership, as well as participation.

Q: So ‘grandest’ would be a lot of viewers and a lot of participation? Are you talking about volume here?
A: Getting “warmer.”

Q: I’m such a whiner. I just want to go and live a nice quiet life and grow roses in the country.
A: There was a time, recently, Laura, when you craved and anticipated otherwise.

Q: Yes, I’m sorry. Sometimes I am just tired. Now, change of subject: MicroData has accused me of stealing their harddrive! No mention of all the terrible things they did and the video card they stole... could you give me a pointer on how to handle these people?
A: Soon, you will need to learn theart of non-confrontational association.

Q: Well, I’m not the one who created this situation!
A: We were not spaking of any one instance.

Q: Okay, we have been talking about whether or not we need to get another car, whether or not we may need to sell this house if Ark gets a job in Orlando, and whether we should get this mortgage to get the house fixed so that a) if we stay in it, it will be comfortable, or b) if we have to sell it, it will be more saleable, so I would like to know what your advice on this is since this gal has worked so hard to put this mortgage deal together? Would it be advisable to refinance the house and do the repairs?
A: Green light.

Q: Does that mean to do it?
A: Sure.

Q: Will we be able to make the payments?
A: Yes.

Q: Is it possible, or has it happened, that someone from Poland has contacted the UCF people to spread lies or cause problems?
A: Main thing you should concern yourself with is the future with respect to this, and related subjects.

Q: If someone over there has contacted UCF to say nasty things, it definitely would have an effect on the future. In what respect are you urging us to be concerned with the future?
A: Just be vigilant!

Q: Well, we also sent the cv to USF...
A: When you re-read these transcripts, the meanings and messages will be clear.

Q: Last week I asked some questions and you indicated that you could not answer them and I had the impression that it was because of other persons present. Is that the case?
A: Maybe.

Q: Also, in a past session you made a comment ‘pass the test.’ I would like to know to what test this comment referred? What test must we pass in order to move to the next level of knowledge?
A: This you will know when you reach it.

Q: Alright...
A: Do you wish many repeat incarnations in 3rd density?

Q: Of course not! I want OUT of this density!
A: Then expect testing aplenty.

Q: (A) I want to know about this guy who wrote about the sun cycles... is he just another crackpot?
A: Detailed.

Q: This fellow sent some information that was talking about planetary catastrophe related to solar maximums which is, essentially, the same thing I thought of back in 1985...
A: On right track.

Q: But then, when Ark asked for more information, the guy launched off on being the prophet of God and so forth...
A: Cloak.

Q: The religion thing is a cloak?
A: Yes.

Q: Does HE know it is a cloak?
A: Yes.

Q: So he knows it and is using it...
A: Protection device. Throws off "dogs."

Q: Well, that is all fine and good, but he also wants to offer instructions to people about how to survive such an event, which he proceeds to do, and then launches off into the religion thing. So, if he is cloaking, he is doing a very good job of it because it seems pretty real.
A: Mixed.

Q: (A) Also, he sends a description of a machine he invented which he wants me to help him build. Is this the most important thing about this?

A: No. Investigate further.

Q: I suggested that Ark ought to tell the guy to go and look at the C’s web page and if he can handle that, go from there... but, of course, Ark does better if he doesn’t follow my advice...
A: Okay.

Q: Okay that he doesn’t follow my advice?
A: For tonight, good bye.

End of Session

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November 15, 1997

Terry, Jan, Alice, Freddie, Ark & Laura

Q: Hello.
A: Hello.

Q: And who do we have with us this evening?
A: Wiappahn.

Q: And where do you transmit through?
A: Cassiopaea.

Q: I guess you have been listening to our discussion, so let’s dispose of the burning question at the moment: is it safe at the present time for us to travel to Mexico?
A: More specific data.

Q: We are invited for a conference from November 30th to December 5th. But, the idea was to stay for two weeks. The conference is not in Mexico City, but when we come back, we will probably come through there.

A: Ciudad de Mexico.

Q: Well, essentially, that is all we know. We know we will be flying American Airlines, but we don’t know the flight number yet.
A: When you ask: “is it safe,” the very nature of the question is vague.
 

Q: I understand. More to the point, I am concerned about being gone so long from the children, will things be safe here at the house, how can I minimize the risks HERE?
A: Take two with you.

Q: Which two?
A: Which do you think?

Q: Arielle and Amy would be the ones I would take, I should think.
A: Anna.

Q: Arielle and Anna?
A: Yes.

Q: Amy would be safe at home?
A: She is more durable.

Q: We had already decided we would not go because of the safety issue where the children are concerned, but there is a new issue that has arisen in the past few days... the idea that Ark might be able to get a Mexican divorce while we are there. Is it possible, considering all the things that Fernando had to say on the subject, that we COULD go there and get the divorce?

A: Of course! And marriage too, if you wish. Remember, ceremonies can be held any time. Legalities must be addressed “when opportunity knocks.”
 

Q: Okay, any advice for the trip in a general way?
A: Ask.

Q: (T) Is there anything particular that Ark and Laura need to know about this trip?
A: Ask for details.

Q: (T) Can we have some details? Are there details about where the conference is going to be that they should be aware of?
A: Not what we meant.

Q: (L) Will we have any problems on the plane? Will the plane have any problems?
A: Not at all likely.

Q: Are there any problems we should look out for, any dangerous conditions, in the hotel?
A: No.

Q: (T) Are there any details about dangers and conditions...
A: Avoid wandering...

Q: (T) Is there anything you would like to convey about Arielle and Anna and what they should or should not be doing besides avoiding wandering? A: Fortify.

Q: Fortify physically...
A: Yes.

Q: Vitamins and herbs....
A: Yes.

Q: (T) What about mentally and emotionally?
A: Not as critical.

Q: Will there be anything or anybody in particular that we should look for in terms of either connections or to be wary of spys and spooks? A: Nada de particular.

Q: You encouraged us to ask about details. Is there...
A: Be health conscious. Avoid invitations for “side trips.”

Q: (T) What about side trips on their own?
(A&L) We don’t want to...
A: Good.

Q: (A) There is the question that we should contact the Mexican Embassy here to ask about the legal details. So, should we do this?
A: Cannot hurt, but could confuse.

Q: (T) If you go in the pool at the hotel, don’t float on your back looking up at the objects in the sky... Mexico City is filled with UFOs...
(L) We’ll take pictures...
A: Yes, Many UFOs in Mexico. Cuernavaca is Earth’s most intense window area.

Q: Why is that?
A: Complicated, but magnetic/volcanic influences contribute to the presence of a supervortex...

Q: (L) Well, if we can’t take any side trips, what is the best thing for me and the girls to do while Ark is in the lectures?
A: Explore audio/visual opportunities as in data available for perusal. Biblioteca.

Q: (T) You will have to keep a close eye on the girls so they don’t wander off...
A: They won’t.

Q: Have we covered the subject sufficiently?
(T) What can they do to protect themselves in the middle of a massive UFO vortex?
A: Awareness.

Q: (T) Who knows, you may actually see some!
A: Suggest you do as Mexicans do, and be “camera-ready.”
 

Q: (A) Now, I want to ask about Cagle. I decided to ignore his religion problem and to ignore his cold fusion, and to ask him about his new physics. Is any of this important, or can it have some value to me?
(L) Remembering, of course, what he wrote the other day...
(A) Yes.
A: You can do better.

Q: Why did you say that the guy’s religious fanaticism is just a mask or a cloak, and we wrote to him and got blasted all to heck and back last Tuesday...

A: Because of the learning value.

Q: (A) So, we learned something.
A: Yes.

Q: (A) Alright, I would like to know something about the death of this guy, Marinov. Is Marinov dead?
A: Yes.

Q: Did he commit suicide?
A: No.

Q: Was he physically pushed from the fire escape?
A: He was a victim of highly sophisticated post hypnotic suggestion/mind control.

Q: Who was responsible for installing the post hypnotic suggestion?
A: Chain of Command.

Q: Okay, the STS chain of command. In human terms, who was involved?
A: M1.

Q: What’s M1?
A: British Intelligence.

Q: (A) What was the main reason for his death?
A: Revelations too “sensitive,” would cause “instabilities.”

Q: Instabilities in what?
A: Power structure/control.

Q: What kind of revelation?
A: Theoretical physics.

Q: In what specific area?
A: “Unified Field Theory.”

Q: (A) I am not aware that he was working in this direction. He was more experimental than theoretical, but he was collaborating with other guys. In particular, I would like to know if this Pappas knows the same as Marinov did? A: Not completely, or he would be dead, too.

Q: (T) What was this guy’s breakthrough in Unified Field Theory? I know they are not going to tell us, but maybe they can point us in the right direction.
(L) Well, they put that in quotes, so I don’t know...
A: Merger.

Q: (A) I want to know if it is safe for me to contact this Pappas and ask questions?
A: Up to a point. Better to use faculties you possess for your own discoveries.
 

Q: (T) Did the gentleman who just passed away learn something about the merging of Unified Field Theories?
(L) Or merging of factors...

A: The problem is that these scientists are often too eager to share and reveal. Remember: it is most difficult to win a Nobel Prize when on’s residence is a tomb.

Q: Is it true that there was a luminous spot on the pavement where Marinov died?
A: Yes.

Q: Why?
A: Residue of substance used in mind control procedure.

Q: What was this substance? And what was it used for?
A: Phosphorescent Sulphate Ammonia Chloride. Ammonium Chloride with correct formulation, can be injected intravascularly in order to induce a state of super-suggestibility when utilized in conjunction with pre-existant hypnotic programming.

Q: Alright, a subject I hypnotized some years ago described being abducted, taken to an underground facility nearby, and having some sort of glowing green fluid introduced intravenously. Was this a similar substance?
A: Close.

Q: I think that I remember something similar being described by Karla Turner.
A: Obviously, the residual on the sidewalk was there as a result of blunt trauma to the skull.

Q: He jumped because of the programming and the blunt trauma was the result of his head hitting the sidewalk...
A: Yes.

Q: (T) Are these ideas, the programming that is carried on this way that is described here, that was described by Laura’s subject, that is described in the Karla Turner book, and that is making something of a stir in other arenas, is this within the realm of the military abduction scenario, or covert operation abductions. Are these all related to human abductors rather than alien?
A: Yes, to some extent.

Q: Yes, well S described her abductors as being military guys and NOT aliens...
(T) Yes, and she was taken out there by Anclote to the little base....
A: No coincidence, the former Stauffer Chemical plant nearby!

Q: (A) There was another guy who was in contact with both Marinov and Pappas, and with whom I was also in contact, his name is Assis, does he know essentially the same as Marinov?
A: Close.

Q: (A) The guy whose book we have, Graneau, it seems to me that he knows more than any of them?
A: Ask specifics.

Q: (A) Does Graneau know the details of the Unified Field Theory that is hidden from the rest of us?
A: More...

Q: He knows more... Why don’t you guys just quit messing around and give us the UFT?
A: No. Because, then somebody would kill you.

Q: Alright, then, I don’t want to know! Sorry I asked!
A: You will discover on your own, when you are ready.

Q: In our own experiments with, ummm.... discovering ways and means of getting beneath the surface of what is going on here on the planet, are we headed in right direction and are we making progress?
A: Yes.

Q: Is there anything we could add to the process?
A: Yes, discover! Okay, “time” to go. Good Night!

End of Session

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November 22, 1997

Fred, Laura, Ark, Alice

Q: Hello.
A: Hello.

Q: And who do we have with us this evening?
A: Annastasia.

Q: And where do you transmit through?
A: Cassiopaea.

Q: We have made arrangements to go to Mexico and it seems that the only possible glitch would be that we might not be able to get Ark’s visa in time to go. Is there any advice you can give as to how to expedite this matter?
A: Speed it up at Mexican consulate; explain it re: the economic development angle.

Q: What do you mean, the ‘economic development angle?’
A: Arkadiusz’s presence there will be beneficial to their country.

Q: Well, that’s not going to work! The guys there already told us that we must not mention anything official or about the conference at all, being a physicist or connected to the university, or you will get into such a red tape tangle that you will NEVER get out of it! And you will NEVER get a visa if you mention anything other than the fact that you are strictly a tourist!
A: If you say so.

Q: Well, that is what the guy told us. And he has done it a time or two.
A: Then consult further with him.

Q: Well, you don’t have to be huffy. The thing is, I just wanted to make the visa go smoothly. Is there any trick to that?
A: Payola.

Q: Okay, if we have to, we will bribe somebody. Who are we supposed to bribe?
A: Xavier.

Q: Whoever that is! Anything further about the Mexico trip? Is Amy going to be alright here?
A: Yes.

Q: Is Jason going to be alright here?
A: Maybe.

Q: So, what can I do to enhance the chances of Jason being alright here?
A: Elect Aletheia.

Q: To do what?
A: Be his guardian for hire.

Q: Jeez! Everybody has to be bribed these days! Anything else about this trip? Should we go with the rental car or take the van?
A: Okay.

Q: Which, one or two?
A: Two.

Q: Take the van.
A: No, both.

Q: Both what?
A: Both options regarding van.

Q: Okay. Well, recently I talked to my brother, and you know pretty well what the situation is regarding him, he was complaining about things being the way they were where he was living. So, I remarked that it would be different when he sold his house and moved away. He said that there was absolutely no chance of that. He said it with a deep sigh and a terrible chilling sense of resignation. What, precisely is going on there?
A: His wife “wears the pants.”

Q: Okay, is it going to remain that way forever?
A: As long as they are married.

Q: So, essentially, as long as they are married. And it is none of my business, so no more questions. Last year you made the remark that Chloe would be moving down from the mountains this year. It seems to me that she is being pretty stubborn about staying there, even though she complains about it a lot... do you still foresee....
A: She will. Give it the winter “of her discontent.”

Q: Okay. I learned the other day that the University of Montpelier was founded and that among the individuals who attended this university was Albertus Magnus, Thomas Aquinas, Roger Bacon, Arnold of Villanova and Ramon Llul, as well as Michl Nostredame. Now, aside from the fact that all these people attended, they all seem to be somehow connected to the city of Cologne. In fact, Albertus Magnus moved to the city of Cologne, and he was the teacher of Thomas Aquinas and they both wrote about a ‘talking head’ and, apparently, Albertus Magnus performed something of a miracle along the Rhine in a field... was this, by any chance, an alfalfa field?
A: Yes.

Q: And, is this OUR alfalfa field?
A: Close.

Q: It is said that 3 years is the normal time required for the master work when proceeding by the ‘white path,’ or the ‘humid way.’ Is this, essentially true? Three years for the transformation?
A: Here, “time” serves as an illusion.

Q: Raymond Lully was rumored to have transformed a great deal of base metal into gold for Edward II of England. Did Raymond transmute for Edward in 1311 or 1312?
A: Only method which will accomplish this uses high pitched melodic sounds, brought forth while in a trance state.

Q: Brought forth from what, the human voice?
A: From the center of within.

Q: Well, back to my question, did Raymond transmute gold for Edward, because there was supposedly some special treatment given Lully by Edward, and we know that Edward II was the arch enemy...
A: If you learn to concentrate on the present for such answers, the dividends realized will far exceed expectations.

Q: Well, then, getting back to the present: John Klauder did a little spying for us over at UCF and learned that the selection was narrowed down to four candidates and nobody knows who they are. Supposedly they are being interviewed next week. I don’t know how that can be, since it is the beginning of Thanksgiving Week. But, be that the case, we still have not heard anything from them. Any advice further on that?
A: As always, when in doubt, go to the source.

Q: What source? You are the source. We can’t ask them anything because it is politically incorrect.
A: We will not either, as it is ethereally incorrect.

Q: I also sent a letter to Betty Castor at USF.
A: South Florida.

Q: I don’t know what will happen here... Oh, John Dee supposedly had a vision of the Angel Uriel who gave him a highly polished black stone which was convex, and into which he gazed to communicate with other realms. This sounds very much like a psychomantium. Okay, these beings would appear on the surface of the stone and reveal all the secrets of the future. This was not an imaginary stone because it now resides in the British Museum. However, he late hooked up with Edward Kelly who was, apparently, a complet con-artist. What kind of beings did Dee and Kelly conjure through their polished stone?
A: Fourth Density.

Q: STS or STO?
A: Both.

Q: Was Eugenius Philalethes the nom de plume for Thomas Vaughan?
A: Yes.

Q: What is the ‘prime matter’ of the alchemical process?
A: H2O.

Q: What?
(Ark) Water can be in different states.
A: Heavy water.

Q: What is heavy water?
(Ark) Instead of normal hydrogen, you have hydrogen
atoms with two neutrons. It is used in atomic plants.
(L) Okay, if that is the prime matter, what is the philosophical mercury that goes with it?
A: Wrong “track.”

Q: What is the right track?
A: See several answers back.

Q: It is not etherally correct to answer this?
A: No, sound, Laura, sound! See Leed Skallen.

Q: How does one produce this sound?
A: We have given you the pieces, now “fit them in.”

Q: Well, they say that prime matter is that which is created by God and is
firmly captured within you, yourself, and that any creature of God deprived of it will die. So, I have come to the idea that this prime matter is blood, which is connected to the hemoglobin molecule, which is...
A: What is the human body composed of? 77 per cent... what?

Q: Well, water...
A: Bingo!

Q: Well, how does one change the water in one’s body to heavy water, and what kind of effect does that have on the system?
A: See previous responses!

Q: How does one make the water in the body into heavy water?
A: See previous responses!

Q: Is it as simple as going into a trance an humming ‘ooom?’
A: On the right track, but short of destination.

Q: Does it have something to do with the bones... using the bones in the body as resonators?
A: Just review when convenient. Guessing will derail you.

Q: I need a clue about this sound...
A: You have been given this.

Q: Well, I thought about the DNA, marrow, blood, hemoglobin, magnetite, and the fact that blood is manufactured in the marrow of the bones, and the symbolism of the skull and crossbones which is also the symbol of the Rosie Cross, and the image of the blood of the pelican - so it just made me think that blood was important. Does blood have something to do with this internal sound or does the sound change the blood?
A: No more on this.

Q: Anything else for any of us tonight? We are all really tired.
A: Okay, good night.

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December 31, 1997

Q: Hello.
A: Hello.

Q: And who do we have with us this evening?
A: Yxtorra.

Q: And where do you transmit through?
A: Cassiopaea.

Q: The immediate business at hand is that I feel that I am being taken advantage of by the contractor working on my house. I know that you guys said to go ahead and get the work done on my house, but I don’t think this guy is going to do it. He’s got the money and I am left holding the bag.
A: Then be a “pest.”

Q: You mean harass, fuss and complain?
A: No, keep after him. What about those “squeaky wheels?”

Q: Well, if I do that, do we see the energy surrounding the situation, that the work will be done right, it will be finished, and I will be happy with the work?
A: Two out of three; you choose.

Q: Okay, anything about the situation to keep my eye open for particularly?
A: License.

Q: His license? Get his license number? Anything else?
A: No.

Q: Okay, the next issue, we have now given him all our money and we are now broke and we have a lot of stuff to take care of in January. What do you see, or can you give us any pointers in terms of employment or income potential that we can activate at the moment?
A: Lesson learned is why you gave all your money prior to job; follows!!

Q: Okay, the lesson is learned. Now, advice!
A: Wrong! You are hasty by nature.

Q: Well, he doesn’t have ALL the money, there is still money in escrow...
A: How many prospects interviewed?

Q: In terms of what? Contractors or job?
A: Yes.

Q: Job?
A: Both.

Q: Well, on the contractor business, I called a lot of companies that would not work on my house because of its age. I am confused!
A: Only you can confuse you.

Q: (Ark) Can you add anything to this subject, something that we can do that we didn’t think about?
A: Only if you prompt.

Q: (Ark) I don’t know how.
(Laura) Are we going to hear from UCF?
A: You should take the “bull by the horns.” It is wrong for you to think you are not in control, ultimately.

Q: Okay, in terms of contact, what bull are you speaking of?
A: Obtaining position.

Q: Well, we were going to do something back at the end of November, but you said ‘patience pays.’ So, we have been waiting to see what would come about. So, we haven’t made any definite moves, thinking that something would open, however we see that we need to do something here.
A: November was November. Patience was needed in order to avoid mistiming faux pas.

Q: Okay, so now is the time to contact and say something?
A: Yes.

Q: Any other suggestions?
A: Be powerful; sell thyself.

Q: I want to ask if the falling of the picture and the stopping of the clock was as a result of Ark’s mother coming and giving us a message?
A: Yes.

Q: Is she alright?
A: Yes.

Q: Did she finish what she was supposed to do?
A: Too complex a concept for this medium.

Q: Since we haven’t had a session since we went to Mexico, I would like to point out that we were not able to get the divorce in Mexico, nor were we able to arrange any other kind of legal maneuver. So, why did you encourage us to go? We didn’t accomplish anything except spending money!
A: Nonsense!

Q: Well, what can YOU say we accomplished except that Ark gave his lecture and we messed around and had a good time...
A: Yes...

Q: Is anything going to come out of this trip to Mexico that we don’t yet see?
A: Wait and see.

Q: And, we did not see any ufos except maybe that little blip on the photograph I took from the plane window. We looked and asked around some, but no ufos! I was very disappointed!
A: Silly woman! You know better! What you saw and what you perceive in your 3rd density conscious memory are two different things! Why was Anna ill? Why the nosebleed?

Q: We didn’t mention to anybody that she had a nosebleed and she never had a nosebleed before. We figured it was just from being on the plane. Okay, so what happened?
A: Hypnotist. Not you.

Q: Take her to a hypnotist that is not me?
A: Yes. And you too.

Q: Well, I was sick when we got there that night. I was so sick I was shaking. I had to go to bed. Okay, anything else you want to say about Mexico?
A: Not unless you ask.

Q: Let me ask one question: did something happen in Miami, in the air, or after we got there?
A: Yes.

Q: In Miami?
A: Find out.

Q: (Ark) How can we find out without going to hypnotist?
A: Not likely.

Q: They said for me not to do it. Why?
A: Impartiality needed.

Q: (Ark) I would like to know if it is at all relevant, because a lot of things happen that are irrelevant for the future?
A: It is.

[break for New Year’s]

Q: It is now 1998. Do you guys have any predictions or comments for the new year?
A: In Pensacola, for but one example, it is still only 1997.

Q: Very cute! Okay, so it is not new year around the entire globe, and you have made your point about time. However, soon, everyone will agree that it is 1998, and then it will be, in fact, 1998. So, do you have, for those waiting with baited breath, anything to say about the upcoming year. Of course, I know all the psychics and channels are busily posting all their direful predictions about photon belts, null zones and whatever... a whole new series of dates for this will come, I expect...
A: Are you not yet tiring of such drivel?

Q: Yes, I am extremely tired of such drivel, but you have given some very good predictions in the past, and some that were dead wrong. And, speaking of dead wrong predictions, let me ask: on one occasion you said that the number of people left alive after the flood of Noah was 19 million and on another occasion you said 119 million. Now which is the correct figure?
A: Either.

Q: Well, it can’t be either!
A: Yes it can... all is as the perceiver perceives.

Q: I think I liked you better when you were a little more linear!
A: We never were. As that is not for you. Not any more than it is for the company executive to don diapers!

Q: Yes, but... I feel like we are going around in circles and we get vague answers. Yes, we understand the necessity for such answers in some cases, but there are other things going on that we would like to deal with in a little more direct manner.
A: You get into trouble when you presuppose the nature of the answers to the questions.

Q: Well, it still comes back down to...
A: No, no... get your mother to read!

Q: (Alice) You want me to read back the answers? To go back?
A: Nature.

Q: (A) We have this idea to put some of the sessions on the internet. Is it a good idea?
A: Okay, but book deal looks more prosperous if it includes participation by all three of you. Internet, when utilized cautiously and properly leads to this. Ark’s credibility enhanced, not diluted.

Q: So, in other words... Ark’s credibility enhanced? Utilize Ark’s credibility?
Is that what you mean?
A: No.

Q: (A) I think that the idea is that I could be afraid that using my name in this context could dilute my credibility, and they say it is not the case...
A: Yes.

Q: (A) Okay, this was one question...
A: You are burgeoning quantum physicist, and, as such, have the opportunity to be the “trailblazer.”

Q: (A) Yes, there was this physicist working with Ra, why did he die, what was behind that?
A: Ask yourself about what you suspect.

Q: (A) I am asking myself about what I suspect, and I suspect that he was silenced like Marinov. Is that the case?
A: Intuition is a necessary and valuable tool in trailblazing.

Q: (A) The next thing is that we were discussing putting some of the information about the death of Marinov onto the Skywatch...
A: Who tried to suppress you?

Q: Nobody, but my intuition is that we should not.
A: Right. Ark knows caution is the friend of sustenence. Laura knows “tossing caution to the four winds” as her compatriot! Balance equals perfection.

Q: But! How can you balance between telling and NOT telling about Marinov to Skywatch.
(A) Balance means putting something, but not necessarily that....
A: Does Laura wish to have dear loved ones kidnapped?

Q: No, I DON’T want to have my loved ones kidnapped!
A: Be cautious and patient.

Q: (A) I want to interrogate you guys for a while. Are you ready?
A: When are we not?

Q: Good. Now, at some point you said when we asked about the Ra Material, you gave the number that it was 63 per cent accurate. Do you confirm this now?
A: Yes.

Q: Now, I want to know exactly how you got this number 63, how you computed it, why is it 63 and not 62 or 64?
A: The divination process always breaks down to mathematical processes, as this is the only true universal language.

Q: But, I want to know what mathematical process you were using to get this number 63?!
A: Add the total number of words published, divide the sum total by the number reflecting accurate conceptualizations.

Q: Okay, if we have 100 words, and 25 are used in the description of a concept that is accurate, is that what you mean?
A: Close.

Q: Okay, how do you determine an accurate conceptualization?
(A) How do you determine if a given word is accurate?
A: By the verity of the issuer.

Q: So, words, even though words can mean different things, the verity of the speaker can give...
A: Yes, because if monitored in a state of pure non- prejudice, the accuracy level will be perceived correctly.

Q: (A) Can we go, word by word, through Ra material, remove the incorrect words and leave only what is correct?
A: Not necessary for reason just given.

Q: (A) Okay, I want to read a sentence: ‘The first, the Great Pyramid was formed approximately 6,000 of your years ago.’ I want to go through this word by word. The word ‘the,’ accurate or inaccurate?
A: Accurate.

Q: ‘First.’
A: Inaccurate.

Q: ‘The.’
A: Neuter.

Q: ‘Great.’
A: Accurate, in this case because of conventional agreement.

Q: Now, you describe a word as neutral, but in the mathematical algorithm you gave for computing the numbers, you didn’t mention neutral words, so, what do you do with neutral words?
A: They belong to the 37 percent as they cannot be counted subjectively as accurate.

Q: ‘was’
A: Accurate.

Q: ‘formed’
A: Accurate.

Q: ‘approximately’
A: Accurate.

Q: 6,000
A: Accurate.

Q: ‘Of.’
A: Neuter.

Q: ‘Your.’
A: Accurate.

Q: ‘years.
A: Accurate.

Q: Okay, if we apply the same formula to the C’s, your material, what percentage would you give?
A: Not up to us to measure.

Q: Okay, you gave, concerning the pyramid the following sentence: ‘The Great Pyramid was built by Atlantis 10,643 years ago.’ Is it accurate?
A: Not as you state.

Q: The question was: what year was it built, and the answer was 10,640 years ago. And it is inaccurate? Is it also inaccurate when we read original transcripts.
(L) Yes, I think there is a problem. You confirmed the Ra material on a point that contradicts what you gave yourselves!
A: Problem is not with “us,” problem is trying to compare to different frames of reference.

Q: Okay, let’s read the sentence word by word...
A: Not point, as you have not even achieved an accurate reading as pertains to literacy. Remember!!: “Frames of reference.” Look for clues in terms of definition.

Q: I don’t understand what you are saying. Either it was built 10,643 years ago or it was built 6,000 years ago.
A: Stupidity is enhanced by haste.

Q: (A) In this material...
A: Formed/built... you think it means the same thing, eh???

Q: It was built before it was formed?
(A) According to this Ra material, was never built at all, it was formed by thoughts... Well, we are talking about facts, numbers.
A: If your house at 6322 Montana Avenue is remodeled, then it takes a new form. Now, reread sentences in question carefully.

Q: ‘The first, the Great Pyramid, was formed approximately 6,000 of your years ago. Then, in sequence, after this performing by thought of the building or architecture of the great pyramid, using the more local or earthly material rather than thought form material to build other pyramidal structures.’ Now, C’s say: ‘The Great Pyramid was built by Atlanteans 10,643 years ago.’ The problem with this sentence is, we are not specific - we know we mean the Great Pyramid at Gizah. Okay...
A: No, Laura, no no no no !!!!!

Q: If your house is remodeled in 1998, is that when it was built?
Q: No, that is not when it was built. Did the sentence you took out of the text say Atlanteans?
(A) Yes, first you asked when and then by whom...
A: Atlantean Descendants, not Atlanteans!!

Q: (A) No... once it was said by descendants, and once it was said by Atlanteans.
(We check and find that it did say ‘Atlantean descendants and NOT Atlanteans.) Can we use this process to analyze all the material?
A: You can, but senior citizenhood awaits its completion.

Q: Is there some issue about asking this question of accuracy that needs to be addressed? One main thing is: the presence of certain persons. Some sessions were more accurate than others depending upon who was present...
A: You got it!!!

Q: Therefore, it would be difficult to assess an accuracy rating for the C’s themselves...
A: Bingo!

Q: But, we CAN assess the material itself, keeping in mind that some parts can be more accurate than others...
A: 71.7.

Q: Okay, that takes into account corruption from different people, typos, reconstruction, and so forth. And, the same applies to the Ra Material...
(A) Okay, suppose I have a sentence that the Great Pyramid was built 10,000 years ago, but really it was built yesterday, and you would give 70 per cent accuracy to this statement.
A: No.

Q: But only one word is inaccurate...
A: You are searching for a concrete formula within a vacuum of abstraction. The only way to get an accurate measurement is to wait until you can include the sum total of all the words, then determine accuracy as a percentage of the total. With the total of all words, and each individual word as the unit of measurement. And on that note, until the next time, Good Night.

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January 17, 1998

Fred, Laura, Ark, Alice

Q: It’s been a long time. Hello.
A: Hello.

Q: And who do we have with us this evening?
A: Lopsiatza.

Q: And where do you transmit through?
A: Cassiopaea.

Q: As you know we have...
A: This is not a good board.

Q: I know. Should we work with the plain Ouija board? Would you prefer that?
A: Up to you.

Q: First question: why are we in the middle of such a horrible mess? Things were supposed to get better?!
A: Do you not expect there to be turmoil in accompaniment with a level one quantum life change?

Q: A level one quantum life change? Do you mean the change we have already effected, or the change we HOPE to effect?
A: Both and transition between.

Q: So, this is a level one quantum life change of some sort. Let me ask you, we are having some sort of panic about the job situation as it seems that the one in Orlando has not panned out, UFL does not have any permanent positions, nor does there seem to be anything at USF. So far, nothing. In a couple of months, we will be looking at unemployment here!
A: All will be resolved. Key is to sell oneself re: ones assets in terms of what value they project upon the Florida University System, and by proxy; the State itself. Remember, your audience can only see the “actor on the stage” when the spotlight has been properly focused upon him. Also, the audience does not attend if the “play” is not properly advertised. We also suggest you rattle the bushes with your immigration attorneys in order to get the necessary processes speeded up there. If they will not perform, then find others!

Q: We have done all kinds of things!
A: Recontact “Enterprise Florida.”

Q: Alright. I’ll see what happens. Now, on Aletheia’s car. What happened to this guy who hit her car? It destroyed her car and thereby her life.
A: Did no such thing.

Q: Well, I know that! But she is crying and thinks her life is over. We are completely lucky, in my opinion, to have her still with us. Why three accidents in a year’s time?
A: The dark forces always attack the weakest, or most vulnerable, links in the chain.

Q: Did the guy actually fall asleep?
A: Close. Hypnotic state.

Q: Alright. What can I do, any of us, Aletheia, or whoever, to derive the proper lesson from Aletheia’s car being totaled?
A: Refer to standard response.

Q: Knowledge Protects.
A: Yes.

Q: Okay, anything in particular about the line of attack through this construction project?
A: No.

Q: Well, when I fire this guy, is he going to give me a hard time?
A: Some.

Q: Ark discovered, when he got paid on Friday, that they had changed the deal on him. It’s like everything over the past few months is turning around on us. They play the switch routine all over the place.
A: Fight for your rights. Go to the source of original promise and get clarification. Get Klauder in on this as ally.

Q: Okay. Any advice on how to go about getting the permits I need?
A: Look at easement.

Q: What?
A: Reexamine courthouse records for interesting anomalies which should work in your favor.

Q: I don’t understand. Any other clue on that? Well, back to the job situation: (A) When I was coming here I hoped that I will do some work and you guys will be helping us and that we will doing things that are important, and, until now, with all this teaching that I have, the fact is that all the forces work in such a way that I can do just nothing. Is there any hope?
A: Yes, of course. But you must accept that it will unfold step by step, and you will not have the luxury of knowing well ahead of time what will happen. All is lessons. You may choose to look upon it as adventure or as torture... Have faith and get more sleep!! The lack of this is breeding a chemical imbalance within, thus leading to depression.

Q: (A) Well, I always like to be sure, and maybe I should take some steps before the end of life happens?
A: Sarcasm becomes you not! All will work out well for you, and we would not say this if we did not know it to be so.

Q: There is a meaning and a __________ in this attempt to integrate this into physics, and because the concept of density seems to have something to do with psychic and consciousness, I cannot find, until now, how to put it, how to relate it...
A: It has to do with perception, and the ability to perceive, which is in larger measure determined by genetic makeup. Your realm is created by your ability to understand it. The wave comes as so many seek “graduation.”

Q: Are you saying that we are actually, in a sense, creating the wave?
A: And vice versa.

Q: Are these densities something that can be defined in terms of physics, as in divisions of reality that some significant change occurs at, say, the boundary of one density that signifies the beginning of the other?
A: This, as with so much else is so difficult for you to understand because of your limited view point. Remember, you see the densities below yours perfectly well. But they don’t perceive your as what you are.

Q: (A) They said that, in physics, we have one seventh of the equation...
(L) When they said that, he was talking about matter and the direction in time of an anti-particle, which was referred to as the one-seventh.
(A) But, what I mean is, animals, minerals, they are described by just one physics that we learn in school. We do not see that this is a different density.
A: Only because you know it is there. You cannot measure that which is above your level! Of perception, when you are using measuring tools which only can measure that which you perceive.

Q: (A) We are the form makers. I mean it’s not Nature that is creating, it is us seeing order in potential disorder. And we see more order than animals, so it seems. Is this what is meant by higher density, being able to see more order?
A: Well, close, maybe, but you are attempting to employ a mirror to see outside.

Q: What we are trying to understand is: you have described seven densities. Three physical densities, three ethereal densities, and the one in the middle, the variable density. What we are trying to find out here is some way to express this mathematically. Some way to understand this in the universal language of mathematics. Because, if we could do that, mathematically speaking, that would help our understanding and perceptual abilities.
A: Yes, but first you must unravel the part of the puzzle which has nothing to do with mathematics. You would have your best luck finding the mathematical formula while in a “dreamstate,” or under hypnosis, or in meditation before a psychomantium.

Q: (A to L) What about this Dianne business. You are talking to her. I have doubts about this - if this is not revealing too much. Who is she really? If there is not somebody who hides behind this and tries to get something out of you? Question is: is my uneasiness justified?
A: It is always wise to be cautious. When contacted by someone new, it is best to find out about their personal lives and background in order to gage trustworthiness.

Q: But, what about this Dianne Larson?
A: Ask her!

[at this point a low flying helicopter apparently begins to circle overhead and this sound continues until the end of the session.]

Q: (A) Now, I want to come back to physics. We have this paper from the French guy _______ who speaks about anti- gravity and relates it to a double structure of the universe; that anti-matter is just located, not in our universe, but in another universe...

[Sound anomaly on tape for the next few seconds]

A: The two are exchangeable, much like an ion exchanger.

Q: (A) The two are exchangeable, but it’s about us. We are apparently are made of matter rather than anti-matter, or there is another us that is made of anti-matter? I don’t think that we are exchangeable. We are apparently living in a universe of matter rather than anti-matter.
A: Exchangeable.

Q: (A) The loop dimension of Kaluza-Klein... when I was asking about extra-dimensions, the answer was that there were no ‘extra’ dimensions, but forget terminology, there is this theory of Kaluza-Klein that there is this loop dimension, this 5th dimension and the question is: this is a way toward UFT, and I would like to have a hint if adding this loop, or cylinder dimension, is the right step?
A: Yes.

Q: (A) Okay, that is enough.
A: Okay, we sense probing of you now, or interference, so must go, Good Night.

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