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Dimensions, Densities, Abductions, etc.
Part VI
Q: (L) I read the new book by Dr.
David Jacobs, professor of History at Temple University,
concerning his extensive research into the alien abduction
phenomenon. [Dr. Jacobs wrote his Ph.D. thesis on the history of
the UFOs.] Dr. Jacobs says that now, after all of these years of
somewhat rigorous research, that he KNOWS what the aliens are
here for and he "is afraid." David Jacobs says that producing
offspring is the primary objective behind the abduction
phenomenon. Is this, in fact, the case?
A: Part, but not "the whole thing."
Q: (L) Is there another dominant reason?
A: Replacement.
Q: (L) Replacement of what?
A: You.
Q: (L) How do you mean? Creating a race to replace human beings,
or abducting specific humans to replace them with a clone or
whatever?
A: Mainly the former. You see, if one desires to create a new
race, what better way than to mass hybridize, then mass
reincarnate. Especially when the host species is so forever
ignorant, controlled, and anthropocentric. What a lovely
environment for total destruction and conquest and
replacement... see?
Q: (L) Well, that answered my other question about the
objective. Well, here in the book, Dr. Jacobs says that there is
ongoing abductions through particular families. I quote:
"'Beyond protecting the fetus, there are other reasons for
secrecy. If abductions are, as all the evidence clearly
indicates, an intergenerational phenomenon in which the children
of abductees are themselves abductees, then one of the aliens'
goals is the generation of more abductees. Are all children of
abductees incorporated into the phenomenon?
The evidence
suggests that the answer is yes. If an abductee has children
with a non-abductee, the chances are that all their descendants
will be abductees. This means that through normal population
increase, divorce, remarriage and so on, the abductee population
will increase quickly throughout the generations. When those
children grow and marry and have children of their own, all of
their children, whether they marry an abductee or non-abductee,
will be abductees.
To protect the intergenerational nature of
the breeding program, it must be kept secret from the abductees
so that they will continue to have children. If the abductees
KNEW that the program was intergenerational, they might elect
not to have children. This would bring a critical part of the
program to a halt, which the aliens cannot allow. The final
reason for secrecy is to expand the breeding program, to
integrate laterally in society, the aliens must make sure that
abductees mate with non-abductees and produce abductee
children."
Now, this seems to suggest that there is a particular bloodline
that is susceptible to...
A: We have told you before: the Nazi experience was a "trial
run," and by now you see the similarities, do you not?
Q: (L) Yes, I do see...
A: Now, we have also told you that the experience of the "Native
Americans" vis a vis the Europeans may be a precursor in
microcosm. Also, what Earthian 3rd density does to Terran 2nd
density should offer "food for thought." In other words, thou
are not so special, despiteth thy perspective, eh? And we have
also warned that after conversion of Earth humans to 4th
density, the Orion 4th density and their allies hope to control
you "there." Now put this all together and what have you? At
least you should by now know that it is the soul that matters,
not the body. Others have genetically, spiritually and
psychically manipulated/engineered you to be body-centric.
Interesting, as despite all efforts by 4th through 6th density
STO, this "veil remains unbroken."
Q: (L) Now, the big question is: what are we supposed to DO with
this information?
A: As with all else, it is not what you should do with it, it is
just that you have it.
Q: (L) Is there any possibility of defeating the plans of the
4th density STS in this project?
A: Is there any possibility of defeating the Spanish
Conquistadores and the English, French, Dutch and German
"colonists?"
Q: (F) Did they say what I think they said?
(L) Yes. That is
inexpressibly depressing.
A: And you expected a Rose Garden?
Q: (L) If that's the way it is, why don't we all join the
Heaven's Gate cult and commit mass suicide and just not deal
with all this stuff?!
A: You chose to "deal with it," now did you not?
Q: (L) Well, was I in my right mind when I made that choice, or
had I been drinking?
A: No drinking on 5th density!
Q: (L) Now, I have been having an exchange with
Carla McCarty
who was the Ra channel. She says that we are not supposed to DO
anything, we are just supposed to BE, and what we are supposed
to BE is to just let love flow through us, love the aliens and
everybody and just sort of relax in the tulips and, if they take
us over, then we should LOVE that, too. Somehow, I don't find
this...
A: All there is is lessons!!
Q: (L) Is the lesson to learn how to give up the ghost with
panache? What's the point?
A: Your experiences never end, only transform. No body-centrics
need apply.
Q: (L) Well, you once said something about the transition to 4th
density creating a 'level playing field.' Then, the people will
wake up and there will be a battle between the humans and
aliens...
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And if it is a more level playing field, then the
situation would not quite be the same as the Conquistadores
against the Aztecs and the Native Americans against the
Europeans and...
A: Wrong, all in that drama were at 3rd density. The rabbits,
rats, dogs, etc. are not on a level playing field with you!
Q: (L) Do the aliens know about the upcoming comets and all that
sort of thing?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And they have the idea that what they are doing, this
race they are creating, is going to survive this cataclysmic
activity?
A: Of course.
Q: (L) Is that 'of course' as in they ARE going to survive, or
that they BELIEVE they are going to survive?
A: Both.
Q: (L) Okay, you once told us that this was like a 'cosmic
battle.' That the cycle was going to create balance and so on. I
am trying to understand this. If that is the case, it seems that
there is more to it than the Conquistadores against the Aztecs
and the Europeans against the Native Americans; that at some
point the story changes - the oppressed fight back - I am trying
to get the allegory into a more understandable framework. Do you
see what I mean?
A: No.
Q: (L) Well, that is because I am confused. What I am trying to
ask without asking it directly is: what chance do we have of
doing anything?
A: You are still not seeing the "bigger picture."
Q: (L) What is the bigger picture?
A: Your souls, your consciousness.
Q: (L) So, in other words, we chose to come in at this
particular point in time to experience this mass take over of
our planet and the conquest and destruction of the human race,
just so we could have this experience, check-out and
reincarnate?
A: No.
Q: (L) Well, that is what it sounds like! You say that the only
thing that really matters is our souls, our consciousness, so if
we tend to our souls and our bodies check out, then obviously
the answer is to a) reincarnate, or b) move to the next density
and reincarnate. What other option is there?
A: How long did you expect to "live?"
Q: (L) Well, under the normal circumstance, 70 or 80 years,
optimistically.
A: And is that long?
Q: (L) No, it is not. By cosmic standards it is a whiff of
vapor. What are you getting at here?
A: Think about it. ? Have you had any contemporaries who
transited to 5th density?
Q: (L) Yes.
A: How come? How can this be possible?
Q: (L) Because they died. The body died.
A: Why?
Q: (L) Because that is what bodies do.
A: But is it "fair?"
Q: (L) Is it fair?! I guess if that is what they choose.
A: And...
Q: (L) I don't know where you are going with this!
A: You seem to be under the impression that only "good
experiences" are acceptable.
Q: (L) No, I am not under the impression that only good
experiences are acceptable, but I AM in a little bit of a
quandary here because, here we are talking to you guys who are
supposed to be 'us' in the future. Here we are in this period of
time on this planet, where things are in a very strange state.
There is some kind of huge transition going on, and I am just
wondering what is the whole point. Why are we talking to you?
What's the point?
A: It is the lesson. Do you not understand still? The lesson,
the lessons, that is all there is. They are all immeasurably
valuable.
Q: (L) Okay, we are having these lessons. You have told us what
is going on. We see it going on around us. I am convinced that
what you have said is so from a LOT of other circumstantial
evidence as well as the research of others who have come to the
same conclusion and, DAMN IT, IT'S UGLY! DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME?!
IT'S UGLY!
A: That is your perspective.
Q: (L) Well, as Chloe said on the phone the other day, what are
we supposed to awaken to? Are we supposed to just awaken to the
fact that we can SEE all this stuff going on?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And just waking up and seeing it is the whole thing?
Okay, once we wake up and SEE it, why can't we just check out at
that point? If you know what the script is, you don't have to
watch the movie!
A: But then you miss out on the experience.
Q: (L) So, we are all here to experience being munched and
crunched...
A: No.
Q: (L) Imprisoned, controlled, being treated like rats in a cage
in a laboratory...
A: Ecstasy, remember?
Q: (L) Ecstasy?! WELL SWELL! We can just ALL be BURNED AT THE
STAKE! I understand that is QUITE an ECSTATIC experience! I'm
sure William Wallace felt perfectly ECSTATIC when they castrated
him and removed his bowels and burned them in a brazier in front
of his face!
A: Not so long ago, your face smashed upon the pavement...
Q: (L) Was that an ecstatic experience?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) So, when you say 'ecstatic' you could just be talking
about jumping out a window and croaking?! You gotta understand
here! The perspective here on 3rd density! You don't have faces
to smash on pavements!
A: Neither will/do you/us.
Q: (A) You say knowledge protects. It protects against WHAT?
A: Many things. One example: post-transformational trauma and
confusion.
Q: (L) So, knowledge is going to protect us against
post-transformational trauma and confusion. You are saying that
this transition to 4th density is going to be traumatic and
confusing. Do you mean transformation from 3rd to 4th density,
or 3rd to 5th density, i.e. death?
A: Both.
Q: (L) So, if one does not have the shock and trauma and the
confusion and so forth, one is then able to function better?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Well, if a person transitions directly from 3rd to 4th
density without cycling through 5th density via dying, that
implies that persons can transition directly from 3rd to 4th
density without dying. Is that correct?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) How does that feel? How is that experience...
A: Alice through the looking glass.
Q: (A) Okay, they say that knowledge is supposed to protect from
trauma and confusion. On the other hand, all is lessons, so
trauma is a lesson. Why are we supposed to work to avoid a
lesson?
A: You are correct, it is a lesson, but if you have
foreknowledge, you are learning that lesson early, and in a
different way.
Q: (L) So, if you learn the lesson in a different way, does that
mitigate the need or the way or the process of the way of
learning at the time of transition?
A: Yes. Smoother.
Q: (L) I do have to say that thinking about it all, not being
able to do anything about it, not being able to talk to people
about it because they don't believe, is certainly more painful
than being hit by the shock of it...
A: No.
Q: (L) Well, you are suggesting that I CAN tell others such
things?
A: You can convey, but suggest it be done in a subtle fashion.
Q: (L) Well, how subtle can it be? I mean, 'hello folks, you
know the words munch, crunch, yum yum???'
A: It is not all that way, and you know it! Most are not eaten,
just manipulated. Knowledge protects in the most amazing ways.
Q: (L) I certainly don't want to hang out on this planet after
it is taken over by aliens and everybody is getting munched!
A: Munched? Please!! Here is something for you to digest: Why is
it that your scientists have overlooked the obvious when they
insist that alien beings cannot travel to earth from a distant
system???
Q: And what is this obvious thing?
A: Even if speed of light travel, or "faster," were not
possible, and it is, of course, there is no reason why an alien
race could not construct a space "ark," living for many
generations on it. They could travel great distances through
time and space, looking for a suitable world for conquest. Upon
finding such, they could then install this ark in a distant
orbit, build bases upon various solid planes in that solar
system, and proceed to patiently manipulate the chosen
civilizations to develop a suitable technological
infrastructure. And then, after the instituting of a long, slow,
and grand mind programming project, simply step in and take it
over once the situation was suitable.
Q: Is this, in fact, what has happened, or is happening?
A: It could well be, and maybe now it is the time for you to
learn about the details.
Q: Well, would such a race be 3rd or 4th density in orientation?
A: Why not elements of both?
Q: What is the most likely place that such a race would have
originated from?
A: Oh, maybe Orion, for example?
Q: Okay. If such a race did, in fact, travel to this location in
space/time, how many generations have come and gone on their
space ark during this period of travel, assuming, of course,
that such a thing has happened?
A: Maybe 12.
Q: Okay, that implies that they have rather extended life
spans...
A: Yes...
Q: Assuming this to be the case, what are their lifespans?
A: 2,000 of your years. When in space, that is...
Q: And what is the span when on terra firma?
A: 800 years.
Q: Well, has it not occurred to them that staying in space might
not be better?
A: No. Planets are much more "comfortable."
Q: Okay... imagining that such a group has traveled here...
A: We told you of upcoming conflicts... Maybe we meant the same
as your Bible, and other references. Speak of... The "final"
battle between "good and evil..." Sounds a bit cosmic, when you
think of it, does it not?
Q: Does this mean that there is more than one group that has
traveled here in their space arks?
A: Could well be another approaching, as well as
"reinforcements" for either/or, as well as non-involved, but
interested observers of various types who appreciate history
from the sidelines.
Q: Well, SWELL! There goes my peaceful life!
A: You never had one!
Q: Well, I was planning on one!
A: You chose to be incarnated now, with some foreknowledge of
what was to come. Reference your dreams of space attack.
Q: Okay, what racial types are we talking about relating to
these hypothetical aliens?
A: Three basic constructs. Nordic, Reptilian, and
Greys. Many
variations of type 3, and 3 variations of type 1 and 2.
Q: Well, what racial types are the 'good guys?'
A: Nordics, in affiliation with 6th density "guides."
Q: And that's the only good guys?
A: That's all you need.
Q: Wonderful! So, if it is a Grey or Lizzie, you know they
aren't the nice guys. But, if it is tall and blond, you need to
ask questions!
A: All is subjective when it comes to nice and not nice. Some on
2nd density would think of you as "not nice," to say the
least!!!
Q: That's for sure! Especially the roaches! Maybe we ought to
get in touch with some of these good guys...
A: When the "time" is right. Just pay attention to the signs,
please! It is not helpful to place yourself in a vacuum of
awareness.
Q: Now, there is a lot being said about the sightings out in the
South-West area. They are saying that this is the 'new' imminent
invasion or mass landing. Can you comment on this activity?
A: Prelude to the biggest "flap" ever.
Q: And where will this flap be located?
A: Earth.
Q: When is it going to begin?
A: Starting already.
Q: Is this biggest flap going to be just a flap, or is it going
to be an invasion?
A: Not yet. Invasion happens when programming is complete...
Q: What programming?
A: See Bible, "Lucid" book, Matrix Material, "Bringers of the
Dawn," and many other sources, then cross reference... weed the
truth from the disinformation.
Q: Well, if something is fairly imminent, we are not gonna have
time to do all the things you have suggested that we do!
A: Yes you will, most likely.
Q: This just sort of takes the heart right out of me!
A: Not so!
Q: Well, are we going to have time to do all these things?
A: All these things were suggested for this reason, among
others.
Q: So, all the things you have suggested are to get us ready for
this event?
A: Yes.
Q: Well, we better get moving! We don't have time to mess
around!
A: You will proceed as needed, you cannot force these events or
alter the Grand Destiny.
Q: I do NOT like the sound of that! I want to go home!
A: The alternative is less appetizing.
Q: Sure! I don't want to be lunch!
A: Reincarnation on a 3rd density earth as a "cave person"
amidst rubble and a glowing red sky, as the perpetual cold wind
whistles...
Q: Why is the sky glowing red?
A: Contemplate.
Q: Of course! Comet dust! Sure, everybody knows THAT!
Wonderful!!! Anything further?
A: Stay tuned for all pertinent information.
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Dimensions, Densities, Abductions, etc.
Part VII
This is an assorted collection of excerpts relating to specific
questions about different aliens and abduction processes asked by
various guests at the sessions at various times. For the most part,
they are self-explanatory.
Q: (L) Who are the beings that have
been abducting
Karla Turner and her family?
A: Lizards.
Q: (L) Why have they been abducting that group of people?
A: Same reasons they have been abducting you and Fred.
Q: (L) They have been abducting Karla Turner and her family
because they perceive them as a threat and wish to drive them to
self-destruction?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) In one abduction she described in this book, what was the
black shadowy thing that seemed like a moving "nothing" on the
ground?
A: Blocked grays. Karla must be careful driving alone to
lectures and meetings.
Q: (L) Should she make sure there is always someone with her in
the car?
A: At night and on lonely roads. Nephew must pay attention. Also
son's friend. She does not realize the extreme importance.
Communicate this to her now please Laura.
[I did write to Karla and tell her that
the Cassiopaeans were more or less warning her that she was in
danger. She did not choose to believe that there was any benevolent
intention in the warning and was extremely negative about any sort
of "channelling." Not long after, she was diagnosed with a
particularly virulent form of breast cancer and died. I have often
wondered if she had heeded this warning to not travel alone or at
night on lonely roads, if she would be here today.]
Q: (L) There was an individual in
the Karla Turner book, "Taken," who had an experience similar to
what you have described as a virtual abduction, and she was seen
inside a blue bubble, who did this?
A: Grays.
Q: (L) How do aliens create these virtual reality scenarios?
A: Mental image restructuring.
Q: (L) Why does this phenomenon involve the use of the "blue
bubble" or light?
A: Hypnotic suggestion trigger.
Q: (L) Is it true that when we ask an individual under hypnosis
about an alien abduction scenario to try to tune in to aliens
that they can access what is in the alien mind... can we do
that?
A: Yes. The individual is aware on every level and the
information you seek was known at the time. The questions you
ask are merely an accessing of information that is already in
awareness at some level. Budd Hopkins and David Jacobs are too
regimented.
Q: (T) Have I ever been abducted?
A: In childhood.
Q: (L) Has he been abducted since he was grown?
A: Maybe in level 3.
Q: (L) What is level 3?
A: Type of abduction.
Q: (L) How many levels and types of abductions are there?
A: Six
Q: (L) What is level 3?
A: Consciousness altered to "alpha" state.
Q: (T) In other words I will be seeing something other than what
is actually happening? Or remembering something other than what
actually happened?
A: Yes but not physical as in childhood.
Q: (L) What happened to Marcia Moore who was working on drug
enhanced outer space contact via altered consciousness?
A: Permanent abduction victim by Lizards.
Q: (L) Why?
A: Too close to truth.
Q: (L) Well, are we close to the truth too?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Will we be permanently abducted by the Lizards?
A: Knowledge protects.
Q: (L) But didn't she have a lot of knowledge too?
A: Scrambled with drugs.
Q: (L) What or who are the South American aliens I have read
about who are described as being gray with thick lips,
rudimentary features, gray uniforms, and are called by the South
Americans "Malos"?
A: Lizard projections.
Q: (L) Were these also the clay-like beings seen by
Betty Andreasson only she saw them wearing blue suits?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Where was Betty Andreasson taken to when she saw the
Phoenix in her abduction?
A: Another dimension of reality.
Q: (L) Is Betty Andreasson correct in believing that her
experiences are positive and are bringing her closer to God?
A: No.
Q: (L) Is Betty Andreasson deluded?
A: No. She is a victim.
Q: (L) What happened to the Australian pilot
Frederick Valentich?
A: He was taken by the Lizards and dissected.
Q: (L) Somebody sent me an article about experiments being done
by a fellow named Persinger who has been trying to duplicate the
"abduction" experience by subjecting people to EM fields in a
sensory deprivation chamber. I would like comments on that, and
second...
A: Nonsense, some have closed mind inspired by fear.
Q: (L) My concern is that if he is doing this to people, and we
have talked about electromagnetic energy blowing holes in the
dimensional boundaries, my concern is that this experimentation
could be detrimental to the persons being experimented on; is
this a possibility?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) What could be the results of subjecting someone to these
electromagnetic fields?
A: Cessation of body.
Q: (L) In other words, it could kill them?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Could it also open doors between dimensions and allow
other things to enter in?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Could they be subjected to spirit or demonic possession
by this method?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Could they also be subjected to further programming by
aliens through this method?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) There are so many stories of the "gazing" process where
the alien controls that abductee by staring into their eyes and
the abductee feels full of love and harmony and thereby thinks
that the experience is beneficial. This makes me wonder just
exactly what is the purpose of this "gazing"?
A: Hypnotic.
Q: (L) Does it also form a bond?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) In the establishing of an ongoing connection between an
abductee and the abductor, what methods or techniques are used?
Is it a psychic bond?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Is it formed technologically?
A: Partly.
Q: (L) What was the purpose of M's abduction?
A: To study his mind. He has a very strong mind and resolve.
Q: (L) Did they put an implant in him?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And what do they do with that implant?
A: Is monitor. Frequent ringing in ear signifies monitoring
activity.
Q: (L) We want to know if Budd Hopkins is on the right track in
his research?
A: Halfway.
Q: (T) In the
Linda Cortile case, has everything that she says
happened really happened to her?
A: In 4th density.
Q: (T) What about being pulled out of the apartment from the
17th floor or wherever it was, and being sucked up in the beam
of the light? Did that actually happen to her?
A: In 4th density.
Q: (T) How did people in 3rd density see it?
A: Only those who were tuned in saw it.
Q: (L) Were there people there who did not see it?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Alright, now, reading about the Linda Cortile case, it is
rumored to have taken place in the sight of Javier Perez de
Cuellar and his bodyguards and driver. Did Javier really witness
this?
A: Yes, but not only one.
Q: (L) So, there were others? Okay, of the two people who were
supposed to be the bodyguards of the "VIP," one of them
exhibited some extremely bizarre behavior after this event. What
was the cause of this bizarre behavior? Was it him trying to
freak-out Linda Cortile, or was he simply freaked out himself?
A: Simple shock.
Q: (L) So, he was having a hard time dealing with it himself.
During the discussion of this case, it seems that this
particular incident really involved a mass abduction because a
number of women in the neighborhood have subsequently claimed
that they not only were abducted at the same time on the same
night, but that during the course of time that they were being
taken to this craft, they saw other women walking out on the
street together. Was this, in fact, a mass abduction?
A: Some was hysteria.
Q: (L) What is the energy fueling
Whitley Strieber and his work?
A: Grays.
Q: (L) He is an agent of the Grays?
A: No. Instrument of the Grays.
Q: (T) So, all his writing is compromised by the Grays?
A: Influenced by them. Wolfen reflects Lizzie reality.
Q: (TM) My next question is where is my implant?
A: You have two. One in brain behind sinus and one in leg bone.
Q: (TM) I have a suspicion that I might know when I got it, last
year... I have been having nosebleeds. Where was I when I got
the one in my brain?
A: On travel sequence, in transit. We see transit clearly, but
it is unclear why so rapid through 3rd level. Time cycle was
interrupted and we can't see clearly due to cycle block.
Q: (L) Did you have missing time?
(TM) In fact, I got somewhere
sooner than I should have.
(L) Well, that explains why they said
"unclear why so rapid through 3rd level."
(J) Did TM experience
time acceleration?
A: You bet.
Q: (L) What is a cycle block?
A: Too complex, but it involves a dome of frequency over
subject.
Q: (GB) In a bubble?
A: Close.
Q: (BP) So, what they do is screw with our perception of time,
they just yank you out, do what they do, throw you back in and
if it's faster, it's faster, if it's slower, it's slower. Who
gives a hoot.
(L) Sloppy work.
A: Close.
Q: (J) Kind of like putting people back in the wrong cars or
facing the wrong end of the bed, pajamas inside out, or
whatever.
(BP) People have waked up in different beds, in
different houses, out in the woods, whatever.
A: Yes.
Q: (GB) When was the last time my wife was abducted?
A: Last week.
Q: (J) Were they both abducted at the same time?
A: Yes.
Q: (GB) When we were both abducted together, was it a physical
or other abduction?
A: Soul abduction.
Q: (L) Did it occur during the night while they were sleeping?
A: Yes.
Q: (GB) What did they do during the soul abduction, what was the
purpose?
A: Knowledge review.
Q: (GB) For what benefit?
(J) Who reviewed the knowledge?
A: Lizards, of course.
Q: (J) Is there any knowledge that they might find during a
review that might cause them to stop the abduction?
A: Open.
Q: (L) Are there any people, who, by virtue of their knowledge,
do not get abducted?
A: Maybe.
Q: (GB) Is this to elevate our knowledge, or to monitor our
knowledge?
A: Both, but mostly monitor.
Q: (L) How could being abducted by the STS beings increase our
knowledge?
A: Accidentally.
Q: (L) How would this be done accidentally?
A: Self explanatory.
Q: (L) So, in other words, they may abduct someone to monitor
their knowledge, but if the individual has achieved a certain
level of knowledge, the abduction only serves to add to their
knowledge?
A: Yes.
Q: (BP) What is the Lizard's achilles heel?
A:
STS. As in "wishful thinking" which blocks knowledge.
Q: (J) Their singular preoccupation with service to self blocks
them from being able to move from 4th level.
A: Yes.
Q: (TM) Do they want to...
(J) No they are happy there... they
want to stay there forever and control, and consume, and have a
good time.
(BP) It is like finding a place with really good
food, a great place to live, great sex, everything you like, you
would want to stay there.
(TM) Don't a lot of us like the idea
of staying in the 3rd level forever?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Now, we want to know if there is any correlation between
movement of UFOs and weather patterns...
(J) Specifically,
thunderstorms.
A: Correlation?
Q: (L) Okay, can UFOs not fly during thunderstorms, or
electrical storms?
A: Incorrect.
Q: (L) Okay, they can fly during thunderstorms?
A: Yes. But "fly" is improper term.
Q: (L) Okay, what do they do during thunderstorms if they don't
fly?
A: Operate.
Q: (T) Well, the real question is: does the thunderstorm
interfere in the EM flow between densities?
A: Can.
Q: (L) Can thunderstorms interfere with their projection
ability?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Do thunderstorms or electrical activity inhibit them?
A: Ionization.
Q: (T) Is the fact that there are very few abduction cases, at
least I read about, and I've read quite a few of them, during
thunderstorms, have to do with the thunderstorm interfering with
the EM, so that the abduction would be much harder to do,
therefore they don't bother doing it?
A: No.
Q: (T) Can abductions take place during thunderstorms?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Is there a possibility that thunderstorms possibly
enhance this activity?
A: No.
Q: (T) So third density EM disturbances don't disturb fourth
density?
A: Can.
Q: (J) Can they control it.
(T) Well, I haven't read very many
things about abductions during storms.
(L) Well, I have read
about a few, enough to break it as a rule.
(T) Is there some
reason that it isn't happening as often during thunderstorms?
(J) They don't want to get wet.
A: Can you drive a car during the rain?
Q: (J) Yes, but if it is raining really hard, you avoid it.
(L)
Is there any particular reason why more abductions and UFO
sightings occur at night?
A: Not correct.
Q: (L) So, you mean there is as much activity in the daytime as
there is at night?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Well, that blew that theory.
Q: (L) Was there a harmonic convergence as was advertised within
the metaphysical community?
A: For those who believed there was a harmonic convergence,
indeed there was a harmonic convergence.
Q: (L) Did anything of a material nature happen on or to the
planet to enhance or change the energy?
A: Did you notice any changes?
Q: (L) No. Except that it seems that things have gotten worse,
if anything.
A: Did you notice any clear, obvious, material changes?
Q: (L) No. But that could just be me. I could just be a stubborn
and skeptical person.
A: Did anyone else in the room notice any clear or obvious
changes?
Q: (S) What date was it?
(L) 8/8/88, I believe.
(S) I thought it
had something to do with 11/11 ninety- something...
A: Well, obviously if the recollection of the calendar date was
difficult, one would suppose that material changes did not take
place. For, if they had, would you not remember the calendar
date ascribed to them?
Q: (L) Yes. The claim has further been made that, for a month,
following the harmonic convergence that no abductions were
taking place. Is this true?
A: No. There has been no cessation in what you term to be
abduction in quite some time as you measure it.
Q: (L) Well, on the subject of abduction: we watched a film on
television, Monday the 28th, that was a purported video of an
alien autopsy, or, more correctly, an autopsy on an alien body.
Was this, in fact, an alien?
A: How do you define "alien?"
Q: (L) Was it a being other than a naturally born human on this
planet as we know human beings?
A: That is correct.
Q: (L) It was other than a naturally born human?
A: Correct.
Q: (L) Okay. What kind of a being was this?
A: Hybrid.
Q: (L) What was it a hybrid of - combining what elements?
A: Cybergenetic creatures you refer to as "Grays," and earth
human such as yourself, third density. So, in essence, it was a
hybridization of a 3rd density and 4th density being.
Q: (L) Okay, was this a 4th density being.
A: No. If you listen to the response - it was a 3rd and 4th
density being.
Q: (L) How can a being be both 3rd and 4th density?
A: It is the environmental surroundings that count, not the
structure of the individual. The same is true, for you. After
all, you have read literature stating that your world or planet
is in the process of ascending from 3rd to 4th density, have you
not? [See "The Ra Material"]
Q: (L) Yes.
A: And this literature has also stated that this is an ongoing
process, has it not?
Q: (L) Yes.
A: Then, one must wonder, if it is an ongoing process, how would
it be possible, if it is not possible, for a being to be in both
3rd and 4th density at one time... Also, if you will recall from
review material, you are currently living in the same
environment as 2nd and 1st density level beings. Is this not
true?
Q: (L) Yes.
A: At least that is what you have been told. So, therefore, it
is possible for a being to be in 3rd and 4th density. And as we
have also told you, when 4th density beings visit 3rd density
environment, they are, in effect, 3rd density beings, and vice
versa. The so-called abduction takes place, especially if it is
a physical abduction, the subject becomes temporarily 4th
density, because it is the environment that counts. And the key
factor there is awareness, not physical or material structure.
Q: (L) I have a paper here that talks about the Grays and says
that they have two brains: an anterior brain and a posterior
brain; and that if you shoot one - this is what it says, I am
not suggesting that I want to shoot anybody - that if you shoot
one, and only shoot one part of the brain, that it does not die;
that you have to shoot it in a special way and get both brains
in order to kill one. Is this a correct concept?
A: Well, it is rather puzzling. Brings up a lot of questions.
One question that comes to mind is: why would one seek to shoot
anything.
Q: (L) Well, I didn't suggest that I wished to, this is just
what this paper says here.
A: The physical description is accurate in terms one variety of
what is referred to as the Grays. It does have an anterior
brain. However, this is secondary to all other issues. And, also
we would suggest that it would not be advisable to seek to cause
physical harm to any particular species. Therefore, it may be
advisable to disregard the information contained in the work
that you are describing.
Q: (L) It also says that the Grays have to be very close to a
person to telepathically link with that person. Is this correct?
A: Close? No, as we have described to you before, there are
technological processes involved which do not require close
physical proximity as you measure it. But, this is very
complicated. It follows dimensional windows and that sort of
thing, which you do not fully understand, therefore it would not
be advisable to go into that in great detail. But, the general
answer to that question is no.
Q: (L) It also says that they implant some sort of crystal on
the optic nerve of humans that is 2 to 4 microns in diameter and
that this crystal is tuned to the frequency of the individual's
implanting it, which allows them to establish a mental frequency
for communication. Is that anywhere along the line of what you
are talking about?
A: Physical implantations do occur. The precise locations vary
according to the desired effects. And when it comes to the
interactions between the human species in 3rd density, and other
STS issues in 4th density, there are a variety of mechanisms in
use as well as a variety of directives and objectives. For
example, some implants are used merely for tracking. Others are
used to alter consciousness, and still others are designed to be
mind altering or motor altering mechanisms. Each of these has a
different structure and a different material content according
to which is being employed and for what purpose. The particular
function you are describing there has been used, or, rather,
something similar, though we are not completely familiar with
that which you have described. So, we suggest that this may be
fabrication to some extent, or expansion of accurate
information. But, in any case, it is true that implants do get
implanted for various reasons.
Q: (L) What is the classification that the person has to fall
into in order to be abducted and studied?
A: What makes you think "classifications" correlates with
abductions?
Q: (TK) It's not the classification, it's.... It's gotta be the
type of person...
A: Yes.
Q: (TK) And how easy it would be to influence....
A: Of course. And many other factors.
Q: (TK) It would have to have something to do with what they
could do for the abductors. I mean, they have to be in a
position to help them... Is that a correct assumption?
A: Yes. STS.
Q: (T): STS; Service to Self..
A: Vibrational frequency.
Q: (L) OK, so if the person has an STS vibrational frequency,
that already predisposes them to abduction. Is that correct?
A: Some.
Q: (T) OK, that's a factor. There's more than one agenda
involved with abductions. Are the military personnel that are
being abducted, is that a specific agenda that is being
followed?
A: Artificial classifications, such as military designations,
are important to human groups only.
Q: (L) How many times has she been abducted?
A: 4. Snow scene was only 3rd density.
Q: (P) Does that mean that the snow scene was only in this
realm?
A: No. Abduction which occurred there was strictly physical.
Q: (L) Okay, the abduction that occurred in the snow was a
physical abduction. Perhaps the others were not. Were they
physical also?
A: The others were 4th density. 3rd density abduction only
occurs rarely, and is of great import.
Q: (L) Was it because of her husband and his work that she had
this physical abduction?
A: Perhaps.
Q: (L) Maybe that is why there is a higher rate of abduction
among family members of government employees, so that they can
be activated or controlled? (P) But my husband wasn't really
working on anything secret.
A: He had access to sensitive facilities.
Q: (L) Did he have a security clearance or was he friends with
others who did? (P) I had a security clearance too! (L) So, P
had an implant put in. An actual, physical implant. Where is it?
A: Behind sinus cavity.
Q: (L) What is this implant designed to do?
A: Activate behavioral control reflex and thought pattern
generation and alteration. Very complex, in fact, parallel
subject. P is "locator probe" for the purpose of monitoring
those in her midst. Telling is not important, reading is.
Besides, most of the work performed did not involve conscious
awareness.
Q: Is this still going on?
A: Partly, but also, P could be used as a probe to monitor all
events taking place at JPL and other laboratories by examining
aural imprints of her husband and others with whom she was
acquainted. All events leave permanent imprints upon aural
energy fields. This explains, for example, some sightings and
apparitions. "Ghosts" are sometimes merely spontaneous
activations of the aural records of the natural surroundings.
Q: [Question lost in static burst.]
A: No, P, the "blue thing" you saw was not an aural imprint
reading, it was a 4th density craft partially transferred into
3rd density. Your deep subconscious memory remembers much, much
more.
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