Stuart Bush: Could you describe the
flying saucer you flew in?
Elizabeth Klarer: She was perfectly circular, about 60 feet in
diameter, with a very large hull and a flattish dome in the
center with portholes around the dome. There were sets of three
portholes encircling the entire dome and she had a silvery sheen
about her. This wasn't a reflection from the sunlight, it was
her own glow.
It came directly from the skin of the ship and
when the power was switched on the whole ship glowed and would
set up this field differential around her, which, of course, she
moves within. Inside she is very, very beautiful; simple but
completely beautiful, and the colors so lovely. The entire floor
is covered with a rose-red type of carpeting ~ very soft and
very springy to walk on.
The walls change color when the power
system is on; they change from blue to green.
S.B.: Is there a functional reason
for this?
E.K.: Yes, in harmonic interaction you are not only going to
have the color in the electromagnetic wavelength of the
universe, which, of course, is the whole basis of her power
system, but the colors come in as well and the different
movements, particularly when she is speeding through the
atmosphere. These starships vary in size. The mother ships are
very much larger and do not land. The ships can travel
instantaneously from one place to another.
S.B.: What was the number of the crew in the ship you traveled
in and what were their duties?
E.K.: Two, and they were both scientists. Both were
astrophysicists but one was also a very great botanist which was
a needed ability in understanding the flora and fauna of planets
for their protection and in the preparation of planets for human
habitation. This is a continuous activity.
S.B.: Tell us something about the outside construction of the
ship.
E.K.: The ship is created in space from pure light energy into
substance, and it takes naturally the celestial form. They then
bring her to the surface of the planet and construct the
interior. But the whole skin of the ship is created in space in
order that this atomic structure of the skin of the ship is
conducive to energizing. That's how you get the power and the
different colors.
S.B.: Is the material metal?
E.K.: No, it's not like a metal at all. It is more like a
porcelain. It is made of an atomic substance from pure light
energy which is the ultimate particle.
S.B.: How long does it take to create the ship?
E.K.: To create the complete shell, no matter what the size, you
have to have the harmonic interaction of the measurement of that
circle; it has to be perfectly in harmony. It takes, in earth
time, about 15 minutes to create. And it is created and not
constructed, from natural cosmic energy. Then when they take her
to the surface of the planet to complete the interior, in earth
time, it takes about a couple of weeks.
S.B.: Are they armed?
E.K.: No, all they have is a deflecting ray as a form of
protection which will keep any hostile craft at bay and
immobilize them. The shield effect completely protects her ~
from bullets, a missile or atomic bomb. The magnetic field is so
tremendous.
S.B.: Is it vulnerable then, when it is at rest?
E.K.: No, there is an automatic switch. The approach of any
intrusion causes the field to come on automatically.
S.B.: Could you tell us something about the vintage mother ship?
E.K.: She is a vast carriership with about 24 small landing
craft each of which carry a crew of two people. The mother ship
hovers about 1000 miles away in space and releases one of these
landing craft to the surface of the planet. They accommodate at
least 5000 people ~ including women and children. They are
completely self-contained with an abundance of everything. They
grow their own food on the ship using their own means of
irradiation; sunlight is not necessary.
S.B.: How do you view outside the ship?
E.K.: The ship is completely enclosed but there are portholes
which can be opened, and also inside there is the viewing lens
which enables you to see outside in all directions. This device
not only can see through barriers such as into cellars of
buildings but can reveal the finest detail, such as beads on a
necklace worn by a person on the ground. And similarly for
sound.
S.B.: Are all the crew from Meton?
E.K.: They are from the one civilization ~ of seven planets. But
they are preparing other planets for human habitation in the
system of Vega. Vega is a young blue-white waxing star.
S.B.: Could you tell me how the people compare with humans on
Earth?
E.K.: They are human but taller, better looking, more
considerate and gentle; not aggressive and violent. They dress
and eat more simply and are still young at an age of 2000 years
of Earth time. Their star is not so violent.
Our sun is a
variable and produces rather harsh radiation which affects the
skin, ages one, and can be dangerous. They wear simpler and less
clothing made out of silk. Silk is beautiful and comfortable
next to the skin. Everything is free and you can pick out your
own clothes at a silk farm.
There is an abundance of everything.
No money or barter system is necessary.
S.B.: What was the planet itself like which you visited?
E.K.: It is similar in size to Earth, a little larger, covered
with vast seas, and the lands are islands, not continents.
Climate is beautiful, under control, and in fact, is really a
utopia. They have everything they want. They are not only
thousands of years ahead technologically from us, but are also
spiritually very advanced.
S.B.: Could you describe the social systems on Meton?
E.K.: There are no politics, law, or the monetary system.
Medicine is a scientific activity and not required for health
since they are all in perfect health. Their way of thinking is
quite different from what most people over here would
understand. They are a loving, gentle and constructive people.
Everyone industriously does their work which they like doing
most. There is no need for law; there is no crime or police.
Everyone is free and has a code of ethics. They constantly
create beauty around them and in general there is complete
harmony. Their homes are lovely. You can see from the inside
out; the material is transparent one way.
Regarding pets, they
love their birds, in particular, and there is telepathic
communication with them. Predatory animals are kept on a
different planet.
S.B.: What about their educational system?
E.K.: They don't have schools or universities. Their education
is completely visual ~ all done by what is called an electric
mirage. They have a little phial about three inches long and
they insert it into a niche in their home or the wall of a
spaceship. A 3D scene fills the room ~ an advanced form of a
holograph. There are no books.
They travel a great deal. The
young children are taken around the galaxy so they can learn
from experience.
They can use the electric mirage to go back to
a former time in their history. They could, for instance, view
our planet at the time of the dinosaurs. They have beautiful
paintings and create lovely music ~ harmonic music and very
uplifting spiritually, which relate to the harmonic music of the
galaxy.
They communicate by means of telepathy and educational concepts
can get transferred this way. They are capable of thinking in
terms of the basic concepts not dependent on language ~ they
perceive the feelingness behind words.
There is no problem in
the learning of languages such as any of those on Earth.
S.B.: What shape was the mother ship?
E.K.: She was more of a cigar shape with blunt ends and angles
depending on the light effect. From certain angles she could
look circular and may be five miles in length. These are city
ships containing everything needed ~ trees and flowers, lakes,
beautiful living quarters. Families are raised on the ships.
Some spacecrafts which land and are seen by people, are only
holographs. This is part of the conditioning process so that
earthman will become used to the idea of the existence of
extraterrestrials.
S.B.: And what is this system they have of harmonic mathematics,
and are there any books explaining this?
E.K.: Yes, I have books on it, written by professor William
Conner from the U.S.A. I have his treaties on harmonic
mathematics which explains the whole process. He's also done
this with respect to my book "Beyond The Light Barrier." He has
related the various figures, distance of Meton from Earth,
Akon's age, etc. to harmonic mathematics; it's all there.
S.B.: Returning to the educational aspects, if there are no
books, how is information imparted?
E.K.: It is done from mind to mind, telepathy ship works ~ how
she is using the power system of the universe. You have to
understand the physics of the power system. The physical body
could go but not the mind. This knowledge was imparted to me by Akon.
He just put his hand on my forehead and told me to relax
and think and know exactly how the spaceship is utilizing the
cosmic power to go from this system to the home system. His hand
on my forehead enabled me to relax completely and understand how
the ship was using the matrix of space to go through the ether.
I had to be in complete harmonic relationship with the spaceship
to go through the light barrier.
S.B.: What is the woman's life like on Meton?
E.K.: There are no chores as we have on earth. It is all done
with a light ray. For example, a beam of light will bring you
your food on a tray. Families are larger ~ most families have
about seven children. You could have children while thousands of
years old, as there is no problem with age.
They use a natural
contraceptive; a type of vegetable which they put in their food.
There is no marriage and divorce. They simply find their mate
and stay together for life. If there is an accident and a loss
of life, the person simply reincarnates and comes back to their
same mate.
S.B.: What about the gravity belts? Did you use one?
E.K.: Yes, I used one to go upstairs. There are just three knobs
for starting, control and direction.
S.B.: You mentioned seven planets. What are the names of the
others?
E.K.: They don't have names, just harmonic numbers. Akon gave me
the name Meton for identification purposes.
S.B.: How important is time to them and how do they measure it?
E.K.: They don't measure time at all. Time varies too much in
any case. With their triplet star system, they do not measure
time as we do here, with night and day, since they don't have
night and day. When the smaller star, Proxima sets, the other
two rise so there is never any night.
S.B.: What are their sleeping patterns?
E.K.: They depend on sleep ~ it is a great health restorer. In
terms of Earth time they would sleep nine hours.
S.B.: Regarding their eating habits, what are their views on how
to eat?
E.K.: They don't cook, they eat the natural foods, vegetables,
salads, etc. The only thing they heat, using electricity, are
certain oat cakes, made of fresh whole oats, like bread. They
are only heated briefly to bind them together. They never use
chemical fertilizers for growing food.
S.B.: Why don't they have competitive sports on Meton?
E.K.: They don't think about it ~ it is not necessary for them.
Earthman, when he is not involved with wars, etc., needs to
release his aggression in sports and such competitive
activities. The Meton people do not have this problem.
S.B.: Do they recognize creative aggression?
E.K.: Yes, one must have determination and drive to create, but
it doesn't have to be aggressive!
S.B.: What is their approach to health products? On Earth there
is a growing enlightenment in this direction.
E.K.: Yes, well they eat the natural foods and know which
contain the necessary ingredients for health. It is necessary to
balance the chemical processes in one's food for proper
utilization by the body. The important thing in growing natural
foods is the soil to grow them in, and you cannot possibly, as
you do here, use chemical fertilizers.
They never use anything
like that. They simply put back into the soil what they take
out. They revitalize the soil by means of electricity, which is
what lightning does. It brings the Nitrogen into the soil.
This
is why lightning and thunderstorms are so important, along with
the light and radiation from the sun.
S.B.: So they would eat say, a raw potato?
E.K.: They do grow peas. They are a necessary source of protein,
and they eat a lot of fiber, as this is vital. They have natural
vegetables and fruits, which are scientifically improved and
enlarged. For example, an apricot, which would be the size of an
apple, would be enough for one meal. It would have all the
vitamins in it you would need, because apricots are a
tremendously nutritious source of food and have a rejuvenating
effect on the body.
S.B.: Now, can you say anything about planet Selo, which was
visited by Hal Wilcox (UFO contactee), and which is about 600
years ahead of us, yet is of the same Alpha Centauri system as
Meton, which is how many more years ahead of us?
E.K.: About a hundred thousand!
S.B.: How is there a planet (Selo) in the same system so far
behind?
E.K.: Planets vary. You have planets in certain stages of
advancement, and planet Selo is closer to two major components
of Alpha Centauri. These are the two larger stars, and these
rotate about each other. Selo is closer to them in that
vicinity, therefore Selo would receive greater intensity of
radiation from these double stars.
Proxima Centauri is very much
farther away, but it still makes up a triplet system, which is
known as Alpha Centauri, and Akon's home planet is in orbit
about Proxima Centauri. There are seven planets there altogether
(around Proxima Centauri) which is a star about the same size as
our sun.
So you have a different radiation output, which has a
great effect on civilizations that exist on the orbiting
planets. Radiation has a vast effect on the brain or mind, and
consequently on development.
S.B.: As I understand it now, Selo has two suns and Meton has
three suns, yet they are both in the same system. Does it mean
this third sun is in a higher dimension?
E.K.: Meton, my home planet, only has one sun, and Selo has two
suns, so that makes up the triplet system of three suns!
S.B.: But I gather that there is no nighttime on Meton!
E.K.: That's right. Because when Proxima Centauri sets in the
planetary rotation, the two larger stars rise, and they are so
big that their light is cast very far afield, and naturally
Meton, being in this triplet system, gets the light from these
two larger stars, but not the intensified radiation, because of
the distance.
You see, the two larger stars are young, waxing
stars, and they give out intensified radiation, while Proxima,
the third star, is smaller and a middle-aged star, so it gives
out a modified, highly intensified vibratory radiation, which
has a very different effect in the formation and advancement of
a civilization, because it does affect the brain.
S.B.: I would presume then that Meton is in a higher dimension
than Selo.
E.K.: Yes, in a higher vibratory rates and very much farther
advanced, and has a civilization which occupies all seven
planets in that system. (Ed. But it is in the same physical
dimension.)
S.B.: To get back to the mother ships or city ships (some
cigar-shaped, and five miles long!), how were these constructed
~ out in space?
E.K.: Constructed in space, yes, but we don't talk about
construction, we say they are created. They were created in the
atmosphere of the planet. All the components were ferried up to
her, to be put together in space. This was done more than 65
million years ago. It goes right back in the history of the
solar system, when Venus was alive. (Ed. ~ habitable in the
third dimension.)
Scientists of Venus in those days detected that
the sun was a variable star (Ed. ~ irregular frequency), so they
prepared to move out into space, and they built the vast mother
ships to ferry all the people and as much as possible of the
flora and fauna away from the planet to the Earth, which was the
nearest neighbor.
S.B.: To get back to the mother ships or city ships (some
cigar-shaped, and five miles long!), how were these constructed
~ out in space?
E.K.: Constructed in space, yes, but we don't talk about
construction, we say they are created. They were created in the
atmosphere of the planet. All the components were ferried up to
her, to be put together in space. This was done more than 65
million years ago. It goes right back in the history of this
solar system, when Venus was alive. (Ed. ~ habitable in the
third dimension.)
Scientists of Venus in those days detected
that the sun was a variable star (Ed. ~ irregular frequency), so
they prepared to move out into space, and they built the vast
mother ships to ferry all the people and as much as possible of
the flora and fauna away from the planet to the Earth, which was
the nearest neighbor.
The scientists recognized the Sun was a
visible star, with maximum and minimum periods of sunspot
cycles, which happens to this day, but at certain epochs in time
it expands. Now the Sun is expanding and contracting all the
time. It is pulsating like a heart, but at certain epochs it
expands out more, in intensified radiation.
Now this is what
happened to Venus, and being closer to the Sun her seas had
dried out, and what little fauna remained (and all the flora)
were destroyed. And then of course the dinosaurs, which had
dominated the Earth, were also destroyed through the intensified
radiation. Thus the great civilization from Venus, which we call
the mother planet, was able to get away from Venus, and landed
on earth and the moon, as way-stations.
So there we have the
beginning of highly intelligent human life on this planet because
we were fathered by men from outer space.
Certainly not
descended from the primates of this planet, but in fact from
Cro-Magnon, an advanced human being, who created the great
civilization of
Atlantis, which, of course, was eventually
destroyed.
The civilization from Venus decided to leave Earth
owing to the harsh nature of the variable Sun and move to a
neighboring system that was more conducive to their way of life
and thinking.
They discovered
Proxima Centauri, which was a star
similar to the Sun only much older and therefore a stable star.
They moved to Meton which is now the home planet because it is
very similar to the mother planet, Venus, in atmospheric
conditions, distance from the star and also, the more important
of all, the higher vibratory rates, which is more compatible to
an advanced civilization and consciousness.
They had
bases on
the Moon,
Mars and Earth which they still visit.
The Venus people
left a section of their civilization here on Earth to look after
the planet and advance the mentality and consciousness of the
indigenous people of this planet, which they are in the process
of doing.
S.B.: Did they have anything to do with the age of
Lemuria and
Atlantis?
E.K.: Yes, definitely with Atlantis. Atlantis was, of course,
their main base and they also had a base in South America. Some
of the Incas are descendents of the space people. Now, in the
region of the Andes there used to be a very tall, fair race of
people, many redheads, and these people were from Venus.
They
remained there until the great upheavals of Atlantis, which
resulted in the Andes being pushed up by volcanic eruptions and
with the volcanic evolution of the planet generally. So what was
once a very fertile area became barren and mountainous, as it is
to this day. But you still have certain buildings that remain,
and also under the sea.
Some of the pyramids still remain
in Central America and these are the most important ones because
they are very beautiful and vast, and there is one pyramid which
has just been uncovered by archeologists who thought it was a
mountain. The Spaniards built a cathedral on the top. It was
covered in trees and grass, and the excavations are now
revealing a pyramid.
S.B.: Where do the rest of the Earth people come from if only a
small portion came from Venus?
E.K.: The majority of people here on Earth are indigenous, with
a certain percentage from the home planet Venus who had stayed
here when the main civilization moved out from Venus before
going on to Proxima Centauri. They remained to look after the
planet, and also for educational purposes for the native people,
which of course is being done to this day.
So we're here to
inform people of the truth of their origin. Also to bring Venus
back to life by feeding the atmosphere with algae, which creates
the storms, the rain and the lightning, the volcanic eruptions,
and the life. And also to form the seas again, because Venus was
originally covered with vast seas, as is Meton.
That is why Akon's civilization moved out from earth to Meton because it is
very similar to what Venus was in the past; islands and seas,
with thick atmosphere, which filters the radiation, and above
all has a higher vibratory rate for the advancement of a higher
civilization, and particularly for the advancement of a
consciousness into the fourth dimension.
They have also come back
to create bases on the Moon and Mars. They can bring back to
life Mars as well as Venus, and this they plan to do since their
main work throughout the galaxy is to prepare star systems for
human habitation.
S.B.: How would this tie in with the information that the Sun is
dying?
E.K.: The Sun is dying, but we don't talk about age, it is
simply a metamorphosis. It is becoming cooler so something has
to be done about it. It is going to be a double star system
since Jupiter is a forming star. Jupiter will have a star burst
in the very near future and we'll then have two stars in the
skies of Earth. As the Sun cools down, Jupiter will heat up.
S.B.: How long do you think the Earth people have been in
existence?
E.K.: The indigenous people of Earth go back to the time of the
dinosaurs. Before the demise of the dinosaurs there was a very
small colony of human kind, as there was also a very small
colony of mammals, and they were not affected by the intensified
radiation because they took refuge in caves and escaped the
radiation by going underground.
This was instinctive, and it was
the same with the other mammals.
But the giant creatures had
nowhere to escape from the intensified radiation. The
ultraviolet destroyed the vegetation so they had no food and
became extinct. The mammals were intelligent enough to go
underground and then lived on other life.
Now many of our race
today are descendents of these people from Venus. Generally they
are not conscious of the fact that they are here to advance and
educate the indigenous peoples of this planet, but many have had
a race memory which has been activated by certain events ~
material in a book or seeing a spaceship in the sky.
They have
suddenly realized this is their purpose and that this is what
their life is all about and they are here for a reason.
S.B.: To come back to Akron's spacecraft, when he visited you
did his craft create the thunderstorms?
E.K.: Not always ~ sometimes. This is a very interesting
question. The thunderstorm, particularly the hailstorm, which I
described in my book, was quite natural. But it has happened in
the past and very recently that his spaceship has created
thunderstorms.
This is due to the fact that when she come into
the condensation level of our atmosphere the heat field around
the ship condenses the molecules of the atmosphere into cloud
and the result is that the gravity field retains the cloud
around the ship, spinning it around in its lines of force ~ you
can actually see this. This is what we call an inorganic cloud
because it is created by the spaceship.
As she moves, the cloud
goes with her, and we have actually photographed this cloud
effect with the spaceship in the middle. You can actually see
the glow of the ship in the cloud. The Air Force takes infrared
photographs of such a perfectly circular and rotating cloud with
the glow in the middle of the ship.
Now this is a very good form
of camouflage and they (Akon) use it quite a lot.
Just recently I
experienced Akon's spaceship in Natal which created a most
tremendous storm. I saw this circular cloud which had a grey
edge to it, the perimeter was clear-cut in the blue sky and it
was perfectly circular; in fact it looked rather like a mushroom
cloud of an atomic explosion.
The high center to the cloud was
the spaceship dome. The cloud itself was almost an apple green
cloud. In the center was this pink-orange color ~ it was quite
beautiful. The resulting storm was tremendous, incessant
lightning, rain and wind. It happened four times. It was a
warning for me regarding making a decision.
This happened in the
last two weeks.
S.B.: Couldn't Akon have remained in the fourth dimension, in
invisibility, to avoid the storm and still communicate to you?
Why was it necessary to be so dramatic?
E.K.: He wished the effect to be observed by others. He wanted
the people to understand the power of the spaceship and that it
was there. Now I'm known by the natives as not just the star
lady but also the storm lady.
S.B.: Are you a twin flame of Akon, that is, from the same
source of consciousness or are you a soul mate in which the
relationship has built up from many lifetimes together?
E.K.: We both originated from the same place so we have always
been twin flames but we are also soulmates because we have the
same consciousness, realization and ideas in life completely. I
can't remember many past lives. I remember my previous life
clearly with Akon on Venus, and we have always been together
through the ages.
I have only had this one life on Earth.
At
certain periods we have to be parted, for example, for me to do
my work here and Akon to do his work in outerspace. My purpose
here is involved with a vast educational system throughout the
world to tell people about all this, to write about it. It is
necessary for people to realize there is a greater authority and
civilization out there who will intervene if we do not behave
ourselves.
S.B.: The spiritual advancement is so great on Meton one might
have thought that the people would have transcended the physical
level and moved into a higher plane. Why are they still using
physical bodies like us?
E.K.: So they can communicate more easily to other civilizations
in the physical. There are no physical disadvantages: they keep
in perfect health, and there are no injuries. So it is perfectly
safe for them to retain the physical body, besides they seem to
enjoy it.
