Q: Hi Phil. I have a question about
time, too. In April, I spent 3 weeks with a really exceptional
contactee, Hector Palacios down in Mexico. He has been having
contact for about forty years. Long ago started talking about
the Earth being taken out of its time-stream. Then I heard, at
the X-Conference 3 years ago, that you brought up this issue,
and that your father had information on this topic. So could you
talk a little bit about what the ETs told your father about the
Earth being taken out of the time-stream in order to protect it,
and then that it would be inserted back in?
PC: I donít know anything about the Earth going in and out of
the time-stream. But what I can help you on, possibly, is
understanding a little bit about time. First of all, dad said
that we have had
time travel for a long time. The
Experiment did happen. It did not happen as Hollywood said it
happened. Dad actually had the power to declassify a report. So
that was pretty neat. He declassified a report, and I had it in
my hand. He also said that this was not a fluke, like Hollywood
said. Actually Einstein worked on it. Einstein was just as much
a part of that as he was the atomic bomb.
Now, the time travel of the Eldridge Ė that was the ship that
they used in the very beginning Ė it was for the purpose of not
moving the ship, that was an accident, which did happen because
we didnít have very good control and we didnít understand it too
much in those days. The German mines Ė they had a magnetic mine.
It would wait until the lead ships would go over [the mine], and
then the second, third or fourth ship, it [the mine] would come
up in the middle, and not get just that ship, it would get the
whole convoy almost, any ship that was immediately around
because they huddled close together. It was going to wipe us
out. So, dad knew of this project. He had debriefs on the
project. It would actually move the mine about 500 yards through
time, out to the sides, as the convoys would pass over it. It
was very successful.
Itís done with counter-rotating magnetic fields, the same way
that the [space] ship is built. He told me that it was made out
of 6 layers of skin and each one used a counter-rotating
[field]. There is a frequency for the Earth. He left me that
[information]. I also have been fortunate enough, or unfortunate
enough, at the Fort Walton Beach [conference] which was a
complete bust and I thought it was the most horrible thing I had
ever done in my life. I didnít like it. I didnít like the
people. I didnít like anything that went on.
But the next day I just happened to have walked back in and
there stood a man that I met, and his name is Phil Bailey and
heís ex-Air Force, in charge of black projects. He clued me in
that Iíd better cool it and be careful. Heís still a very dear
friend. But, Phil let us know that time travel within the Air
Force has also been one of their priorities. He introduced me to
a man named Mr. Beckworth. Mr. Beckworth is a millionaire, and
he builds transformers. He built them for the Aurora Project. He
works for the military very closely. He was very much a part of
the time travel [project] of the Philadelphia Experiment.
Now, we were tricked by Phil, because if he had told me where I
was going, Liz and I wouldnít have gone. So we walk into this
room and thereís a long table, about from here to the end of the
stage, and thereís all these people sitting there. I said,
ďWhatís going on?Ē And Phil said, ďWell, you sit here at the head
of the table.Ē ďOK,Ē I said and go along with this. Funding men
from the Pentagon, religious people, so on and so on and so on,
were sitting at this table. I wondered, What do they want?
Well, they wanted to know about time travel. What they got out
of me was absolute zero at the time because I was not talking.
Sitting at that table, because I was so upset I found out that I
had an ability, that I didnít know that I had. I literally could
hear every word they were saying in their heads. I donít know
why. I donít know why it came out there. Maybe it was one of
them. Maybe there was a remote viewer. Maybe there was a
religious psychic. I donít know what it was.
I finally asked them, ďMr. Beckworth, do you know anything about
the Hopi Indians?Ē He says, ďOh, my God!Ē He gets up and goes in
the other room. Heís friends with them, every one of them. He
has paintings on the wall, and such like that. So he takes me
into another room and shows me a little machine that he wanted
introduced to all universities where people could understand
time travel. Itís very simple. You started it up and it
disappeared. He has notes written on it, and such like that.
Well, it will never happen, not in our lifetimes. Thatís what I
believe. So, yes. There is time travel. Time travel is not that
difficult to achieve. Itís been achieved through nature,
By the way, itís very important to know; ET comes here, my dad
says, for the atomic bomb. My dad was very good friends with
Oppenheimer. He was very good friends with him. This is my dadís
words now Ė I shouldnít even say that. Heís speaking [from the
spirit side]. He says, ďPhil, we should have known, after the
very first atomic bomb test, that when that mushroom cloud went
up thereís a focal point that comes down through the center of
the Earth and comes out the other side, and it [the explosion]
completely destroys our magnetic environment. It goes all the
way out to the Van Allen Belt.Ē
They also Ė even though they didnít know string theory, but they
knew that thereís other dimensions, they said they figured out
that the missing mass. You see, at first they thought they were
going to blow up the whole Earth, with the first atomic weapon
that went off. They just werenít sure. But they found out after
the first test that there was missing mass. Well, the main part
of the explosion takes part in another dimension. Thatís what
ETís upset about! Not that it takes place in our space. Our
space is a terrible place anyway. We have pulsars and we all
types of objects running out of there with tremendous energy. It
doesnít make any difference if another little pea falls into the
pot. But, in the other dimension itís very disturbing because
you we donít know whatís taking place there.
The Air Force has a lot of trouble right now. You see. I told
you not to get me started [chuckles]. The Air Force has a lot of
trouble with time travel. Itís not that you go back, and have
the paradox of killing your father, because you return to
another [time]. First of all, man cannot travel back in time.
Thatís what the little clones are for. Thereís another race that
no one has talked about, and thatís the clones that were created
here on this planet to be sent back in time because man Ė we --
do not know how to travel through time yet. We instantly die.
Theyíve tried. The Eldridge was part of the terrible experiment.
And yes, it did happen. Dad says they were in the metal, and
such. But hereís what the Air Force has trouble with. In order
to travel through time, itís not like an airplane -- that you
get in an airplane and you go from point A to B. You must have a
purpose, and it must be benevolent purpose, because if itís not
you come back with all types of baggage! Now, who comes back?
The little clones come back.
Dad says thereís 2 brains, separately. Not 2 hemispheres. One is
laced with integrated circuits. Itís all in here [holdís up Dawn
of a New Age]; the other one is the brain for the little thing
to navigate and move around with and apply his energy. Now, back
engineering, boy, is it a 2-sided sword! Have any of you seen
the movie ďStar Trek VĒ, where he goes back and gets the whales,
and they bring them back? And Scottyís sitting there, and he
needs the matrix of plexiglass made up. Heís sitting there and
he cracks his knuckles, and says, ďOh, how quaint!Ē You have to
type, rather than talk to the computer. So heís typing in the
matrix for transparent aluminum. And Suluís standing there
beside him and says, ďYou know the Prime Directive. Youíre
breaking it.Ē And Scotty turns to him and says, ďWell, how do
you know he didnít invent the damn thing anyway?Ē
Well, thatís what reverse engineering is. How do you know that
we didnít make the craft and send it back anyway? Because, I
assure you, I know more about this than anyone on the planet,
except for the military, that it is possible, within not too
much longer, to build a craft and send it back to that time. So,
how do you know that we didnít do it anyway? Now, that boggles
the human mind. You say, are we caught in a time-loop? and you
start saying all this and that.
Everything that you know about time is wrong! Everything!
to explain it in a nutshell to you, itís digital and it moves
sideways. Everything that takes place in this universe is taking
place simultaneously, right at this moment. Everything. Your
birth, your death Ė no such thing! You already know that. Now,
we are such limited Beings that we see ourselves as moving from
birth to death. We also know, and everyone in this room knows,
that there is no death -- you just simply have transformed your
energy into another dimension or another state. Itís pretty much
up to you what you want to do with it, how well you achieve. And
thatís why I say ďbenevolent travelĒ. So, they did have trouble
at that table with their travel. Their travel has run into
trouble. They are in trouble because they lack good pilots. Play
on that word for a minute Ė good pilots. OK. More questions.
Iíve got to get off the subject. Did that answer anything, or
Q: One more short question about time.
PC: OK. You know, Iím doing like that guy channeling last night
[Daryl Anka chaneling Bashar]. Why am I doing that? Stop that. I
didnít believe in that. [chuckling] Iím going to sit down. OK,
Dad? [Speaking to his deceased father and laughing.] He kicked
me! Maybe I got a lot to learn. Yes. Youíve got to rearrange the
Q: Yes. Back to the Roswell incident. I understand from your
lecture at the X-Conference, that apparently there were craft
observing the Trinity tests, in July of 1945, there were 2 or 3
craft. I know there were like 4 crashes in New Mexico in 1947.
But that those craft were on a different timeline than weíre on.
Something having to do with that first Trinity blast that most
of the scientists thought it would get into the atmosphere and
destroy the Earth, that they were observing that craft and
something blasted them out of the sky. On their timeline it
might have been only 10 or 15 seconds for them to crash to the
ground, but on our timeline, from July 1945 to July 1947, in our
timeline it took them 2 years for them to actually hit the
ground. Is that right?
PC: Well, you got the right idea. I could tell you exactly how
it happened, because my father told me. And the military knows
this. The craft came through in 1947, but it also came through
in 1957 in Corona. Most of the debris field was left in Roswell,
and the craft was actually left in 1957. So basically, what
youíre saying is absolutely true. What brought it down? I donít
think anyone in this room really knows. I mentioned it maybe
long ago at the Fort Walton Beach. But Iíll tell you again, my
father told me what brought it down. They had an extremely
powerful radar that locked onto the Nikies and the Nikie Ajax,
and it was a pencil beam. Thatís how concentrated it was. Big
test tubes, computers that were datapods, dad said, that were
non-electronics. It was very crude stuff, so it was very
high-powered. When he would aim this thing at an aircat Ė which
is the drone that they fired their missiles at Ė it would
actually bring it down. So, youíve heard that a lightning storm
was taking place that night that the ship came down, and all
that type of hooey. But actually they know they brought it down
with their radar locking onto it. Yes.
same Q: And was there an actual craft crash in í45, too?
PC: No. In í47 and í57. Now, think about í57. Put the pieces
together. What did my dad see in the desert?
[audience voice]: What did he see? [other audience voice]: The
PC: The encounter. OK. Now Iím giving away the jelly beans. But,
yes. My father knows just about everything. Was he put into
these positions, chosen into these positions, and such? Yes. But
you know, this is a peace conference. I would really like to
tell you a few things about my father through his career, real
quick, if I may, and then weíll go back to the questions. I just
thought of this. I think he wants this brought out now. My dad
began as a dirt soldier, drafted. Itís in the new book, too, and
I find it very interesting because I didnít know this. He had
such a high IQ. 180-something in those days was pretty high.
When he scored on a test for the military, his draftee said,
ďCome here, son, weíre going to make you an officer now.Ē So, he
goes over to England, and he did so well. We had no intelligence
program at that time, so they put him into the British MI-4. He
went to Cambridge University and learned how the British would
say, ďhow green our allyĒ. Dad would always say that, you know.
He came back, then went to Ft. Raleigh, Kansas, where he saw the
EBE bodies in the caskets.
Now, Dad was not in Roswell. Thatís what I want you all to know.
He was not a part of Roswell, and retrieving it, and such like
that. The first ones he saw was in Ft. Riley in the little
boxes. He headed up and began and founded our intelligence
schools there. We had none even after the war. Then he went to
Korea and became an intelligence officer for MacArthur. Since he
had the photographic memory, he interrogated 2,000 prisoners
himself. MacArthur sent him up and put him on the Pammunjom
Peace Talks. Dad says they were characters. He says every time
he would come into [the room], whoever raised his flag, he would
make a flag an inch taller than theirs. The next day theyíd come
in with theirs an inch taller. So the flags were growing on the
table, you know.
Dad said one time he walked in and sat at the table, and they
knew he had them, so they were ready to sign the Peace Treaty.
Because of the prisoners that he would interrogate, he would
take everything as being true and then disprove it, rather than
try to make a decision that it wasnít true. They knew how to
defeat themselves, like most enemies did. To make a long story
short, they dropped a torpedo with a time-delay. They couldnít
blow up the earth damns that held the rice back because they
were a quarter mile wide, and such. And the delayed torpedo that
was shallow-running, would run into the earth. Then theyíd plant
10 or 12 of these things in there and theyíd blow, blow, blow,
blow. So, anyway, the war ended, not just because of my father,
because there were thousands of men there. But he was
instrumental, and he was the first Army officer ever to be put
onto the Air Force Targeting Board during that time because he
was so [good] at picking the targets from the interrogation. So,
dad did that for peace. I think everyone should know.
The next thing he did for peace comes years after that. Since he
had Colonel Northís job and was on the White House staff with
Eisenhower, as liaison between Chief of Staffs and Capitol Hill,
he was in charge of interpreting U2 photos. When the photos came
through, he saw the missile silos for Cuba on there, took it to
Bobby Kennedy. Bobby Kennedy, the Attorney General, says,
ďUh-uh. My brotherís up for election. Put that back away.Ē So,
dad was pretty slick at the time. He had his own little secret
covert army, you might say. There was a lot of maladjusted
people on Capitol Hill and he instantly recruited them all. He
made a deal. That went on Kennedyís desk, after it was released.
A friend of his named -- What was that name, Dad? [speaking to
his deceased father.] -- Frank Han, took the report to Jean
Dixon. Jean Dixon released it to the newspaper. The FBI came
running into Jean Dixonís and was going to arrest her. They
said, ďWhere did you get this information?Ē ďI saw it in a
crystal ball,Ē she said. [audience laughter]
So, actually my dad could be tried for treason, probably, for
such things. It was a very hot subject. Luckily we werenít at
war and luckily that it wasnít traceable back to my father. But,
just think about it. If the Cuban missile crisis had not been
released, like Kennedy didnít want it released. Now thatís the
part of history no one knows, and thatís why we will not print
the book, ďThe Day After DallasĒ. It just will not happen in our
lifetime. Thereís still 50 people alive that can be embarrassed
by it. Dad was Senate Internal Investigator for Senator Russell,
that investigated the Warren Commission which investigated
Kennedyís death. Itís still classified and it will remain
classified for the next 50 years, probably. So, anyway, enough
said on that subject. I will never speak on that subject again.
Thatís as much as I will say on it. Go ahead. [speaking to the
Q: Thank you. I just had what Opera calls an ah-ha moment. I
have been loosing keys that just disappear from me, and other
objects too. I know they go into a 6th dimension. I just got
[psychically] that wherever they go, itís the 6th dimension.
PC: Youíre very good, because my father speaks of the 6th
dimension in the book.
same Q: Yeah. I was just told. We all channel. You channel your
father. You channel all kinds of information and itís being
brought to your fingertips. We all channel.
PC: Well, probably so because I just lost a very important paper
and if the gremlins didnít get it then itís in the 6th
dimension. [audience laughter]. Iím not making jokes. Iím not
making jokes. You could be right. You could be absolutely right.
[audience voice]: Ask your father for it back.
PC: It was meant to be here. I promised it to Paul Hellyer. But,
it disappeared. I donít know where itís at. Before I came here I
opened up Dadís black bag and there it was on top. Maybe Iíll
find it again. Those things do happen.
Q: Just a quick question on time. If itís hard to go back into
the past, does that same prohibition or difficulty occur going
into the future? At least from my conception, how do you go to
the future, and how do you know which one, and how does it exist
if it isn't here yet, and so on and so forth? Whereís free will
in all that?
PC: Well, you donít need to go to the future, because if someone
comes back from the future itís the same thing Ė theyíre going
to bring the knowledge with them. So, according to Einstein
relativity theory you can only go backwards. You can look back
into the big bang and itís still there, and so is our Earth. But
remember, our Earth is moving through space at some
350-something thousand miles per hour, so weíre going into new
territory all the time. Another part of time travel that most
people donít think about is this. I have an affinity with
machines, and it says that in the book, too. My dad mentions it,
saying to General Trudeau, ďI think my boy is nuts because he
says engines talk to him.Ē Well, I can tell a motor anything.
Anything thatís wrong with a motor, I just instantly pick it up.
Even if the carís in front of me, I can tell. Itís just the way
I was born. I wire airplanes and have no idea how I did it.
Thatís not true. I did it because I have already done it before.
Weíre all born with all the knowledge we ever need. God could
not create you any less than what he is. You would not want your
children to be any less than you. You want them to be more than
you. So, this being said, every time you read a book, youíre not
learning anything in that book. Youíre learning how to extract
the information from your brain. Itís there. Now you might say,
ďScience says the neurons havenít been put together on a baby.
They donít come together until a certain age,Ē and dot, dot,
dot, dot. They donít know diddly about the brain, believe me.
First of all, there would be no travel in space, Dad says in the
book, too. NASAís known this for a long time. I dubbed the word
friendly space. Friendly space means within the magnetic field
of the Van Allen Belt, which is 22,000 miles out, and the field
of the moon. They, NASA, have never once sent an astronaut
outside of the magnetic field because they know, and Dad knew,
and General Trudeau knew, itís instant death. As soon as it [the
brain] moves out of the Earthís sphere, itís like a light switch
Ė out, finished, all she wrote.
So, we will never travel to Mars. We will never travel anywhere.
It will not happen. NASA now talks about putting 6 feet of moon
dust to shield Ö. Now, man will travel when he gets a
field-density device, which is anti-gravity, which is an
artificial field, which is a self-contained entity within
itself. Do I know how to build it? Absolutely. Did dad? Was he
in contact with world renowned scientists, and they figured out
from the Roswell craft how it worked? They knew far more about
that craft than can be imagined. And yes, itís there. Yes, itís
possible. And yes, it probably will be done. And like Scotty,
yeah, maybe I did invent the dame thing anyway. So, weíll find
out. Itís very interesting. But I take it with a grain of salt.
If it doesnít happen, thatís OK too. Iíll go back to building my
airplanes and make lots of money and everythingís happy.
So, next question.
Q: Hi. I heard your father speak at Ramthaís School of
Enlightenment some years ago. My question for you has to do with
technologyÖ Ramtha basically has said that the spacecraft of the
future has nothing to do with metal or anything so antiquated,
but is about a membrane.
same Q: That it is a membrane that is alive, it is an extension
of our mind, and we are the pilot, and it is a self-protecting
system; that no one will get anywhere unless theyíre consistent
with the consciousness to be there.
PC: OK. Reverse engineering. Youíre absolutely correct. Did I
cut you off?
same Q: No. My question is, do you know [about this], from your
father anything? Can you elaborate more on that?
PC: Yeah, Iím so excited to elaborate that I cut you off. Iím
PC: In fact, I work with advanced composites every day. I just
made a new de-icing stall strip based upon the technology that
my father left. Itís highly successful. Weíre making our first
million dollars, and everythingís great. My sons are back at the
hangar building, as I am here. We have a patent on them, and we
have an STC with the FAA on them, and itís highly successful. It
is putting current through the skin of semi-conducting carbons
with special resins, and such like that. But metal is involved.
I also get Composite magazine, and I read some of the latest
stuff thatís being done. Right now we have tubes, and these
tubes have the matrix of what we would call DNA, but itís not
DNA, itís the matrix of molecular structure. The tubes are
grown, and theyíre going to use them to make giant domes with.
Theyíre self-healing. So, yes, weíre already there. See what
reverse engineering does? Itís the darnedest thing. Yes, the
ship, my dad says in the book, as soon as the little EBE came
out of the influence of the field of the ship he began dying. He
was propagated on the electromagnetism of the ship in the
revolving 6 layers of fields.
So, is the ship alive? Time will tell. I would say that if, um
Ö. OK, Dad [speaking to his deceased father and chuckles]. The
integrated circuit, dad says, when he and General Trudeau had
the first one Ė the charred chip Ė they knew right then and
there, by touching it, that it was a living entity. So, your
computer that you throw on the floor, and you burn up, and such,
you better watch it because someday it might get mad at you for
doing such a thing!
PC: Anyone that works around the equipment, knows that they
interface their minds with that computer because theyíre putting
their minds into it. Also, a real quick theory here that maybe
hasnít been talked about. Letís say that a group men invented a
television set. Iím going to just put this in real general
terms. Say the television set is sent back to caveman days. OK?
And the caveman has everything there that they need Ė a
generator, the alternating current, the 60 hertz. And they plug
this in, and they click the thing and it doesnít come on. Why
doesnít it come on? Does anyone know?
[reply form the audience]: No channel.
PC: Well, no, [because] you have broadcast, and the DVD, and
everything youíd need that would be in this timeline to make it
come on. But they click it and it doesnít come on. Well, hereís
the reason why. The minds that created that television are not
there. So it doesnít work. Now, the Earth is not finished
evolving. Itís an egg. The embryo is still growing. The
technology is only just here within the last 50 years to make
that television. My father saw the very first one at the World
Fair in New York. So, right now, the technology to make the ship
alive is coming. The Earth hasnít evolved that far yet. Now,
what evolves the Earth? Of course we all know itís us. We evolve
the Earth. So, the ship will be an extension of us.
same Q: So what youíre talking about is group consciousness?
PC: Absolutely. Yes. They had a group of EBEs in the ship. There
were 6. But you mean the group consciousness of the entire
same Q: Well, the caveman example that you gave. The group
consciousness didnít exist for the television to work?
PC: No. Itís that the people that made it with their minds, that
invented everything [werenít there], because at that time the
Earth had evolved 50 years ago, enough to make television. Could
television be made prior to that? No, because all the matrix
were not there from those peopleís minds that invented the
same Q: So, howís that different than group consciousness?
PC: Well, what do you mean by group consciousness? Iím lost. You
mean the sum total of every 6 Ĺ billion people on Earth?
same Q: Yeah.
PC: Group consciousness is very important, but remember, each
group wants a different thing. You, certainly, want something
different than somebody thatís planning a war in the Pentagon
right now. So, group consciousness is many, many, many, many
same Q: Collective consciousness. Thatís what I mean.
PC: Yes. Collective consciousness, if thereís enough. The Earth
is flat if everyoneís says itís flat. Thatís the way it is. If
everyone says the Earth is round then itís going to be round. It
might be a triangle next year. But, it matters. It matters what
everyone thinks, if thatís what youíre saying. Yes, it does.
[voice in the audience]: I often feel that way about airplanes.
They only work because we have a group consciousness that says
PC: Yes. When Iím building an aircraft, at a certain point, it
becomes alive. I donít know where that point is, but all of a
sudden it becomes a living entity to me. And I love it! I love
it as much as I love my wife. She says I love my cars more. But
thatís a man thing. You just have to be a man to understand that
part of it. We like shining, and curves. Weíll rub the women
once in a while, you know, but Ö. [chuckles]. Yes, sir.
Q: This questionís a time warp question. You mentioned God a few
minutes and said God didnít create us in such and such a way.
same Q: In your fatherís experience with this different type of
encounter, of a [different] reality, did he become an atheist or
did it affirm his religious belief? And what is the role of
religion in all of this?
PC: Well, itís very big in all of this. Very big. If you noticed
last [night], when the fellow was channeling, I got up and asked
a question, ďCan I have one of his ships?Ē And he said, ďCome
get it.Ē Then I asked him if heís a pilot. Because if heís a
pilot he should bring it to me, but, I didnít go that far. But,
yes, I said ďbenevolentĒ. In other words, time travel has to be
Was my father religious? My father very, very Catholic. I
remember as a young man, seeing him opening up his little tiny
book and reading it every single night. Then he quit, entirely,
for some reason. For years. When he came back to live with us,
my wife and I were then riding with the Christian Motorcycle
Association. We were, you might say, hunting for a religion at
the time, letís say that. I told my father, ďDad, I always
appreciated you for what you did by reading that little book.Ē
Then he started again. So, yes, my father died as a religious
But I will tell you this Ė Iíve never said this before, but you
bring up the subject. He died that morning. Before then, he came
out of his room, and he had drawn a picture. I knew instantly
what it was because he taught me to communicate when I was just
a baby. And it was a picture of the Shroud of Turin. So as soon
as I saw it, I asked my dad, ďWas Jesus in your room?Ē He said,
ďYes.Ē He also said, ďIíll be back,Ē when he died. His last
words out of his mouth said for me to go to work and that he
would be back. Iíve never said that before. I couldnít say it.
same Q: Yeah. The reason why I brought up the subject of
religion is because the ancient scriptures of Hinduism has all
the details on these UFOs.
PC: Yes! My dad talked about them all the time.
To be continued Ö