02 November 2000 01:00 (about time
travel) 1
I saw the posting requesting the basic systems for a gravity
distortion system that will allow time travel.
Here they are:
Magnetic housing units for dual micro-singularities.
Electron injection manifold to alter mass and gravity of
micro-singularities.
Cooling and x-ray venting system
Gravity sensors (VGL system)
Main clocks (4 cesium units)
Main computer units (3)
02 November 2000 01:16 (about time travel) 2
Grandfather paradox Suppose you could go back in time, lets say
several decades and found your grandfather when he was two years
old. In his house you could grab a knife and stab him to death.
He doesn't get the chance to have children with your
grandmother. Therefore either your mother or father doesn't get
born. Your parents can't give birth to you because one of them
don't exist. You could never have been born and don't even
exist. But could your grandfather have been killed by someone
who doesn't exist' He must have lived through his childhood.
This would allow you to exist if this is the case. Seemingly you
can go back in time to commit the murder if you are born but
then you would never have been born. And so on and so on. This
situation is not consistent with itself. It doesn't make sense
and can't possibly happen.
Solutions: [...]
2, A parallel universe might be created when you seem to change
the past. Imagine if time itself was just like a tree. The
different branches show different ways events could have
happened. Every time we decide to do or not to do something time
splits. Even if we are not aware we decided something it have
affects. Quantum physics reveals a many worlds theory like this.
Conclusion Since this parallel universe is not really your past
(despite it's first appearance) anything you do there does not
affect you. You can prevent a version of yourself from being
born because you are not really related to anyone there. They
just look very like your family and friends. You are not home!
You may be somewhere that looks like the place you live but a
different universe in quantum physics is a completely different
reality.
By the way, #2 is the correct answer and the basics for time
travel start at CERN in about a year and end in 2034 with the
first "time machine" built by GE. Too bad we can't post pictures
or I'd show it to you.
05 November 2000 03:29 (about time travel) 3
Questions for timetravel_0 with permission to post.
Pamela: by the way can you tell me what it feels like to time
travel' when you are in the process of doing it what does it
feel like and what do you see and hear. you made mention that
you had to get use to the fields. Do you see a bright flash of
light'
Timetravel_0: Interesting first question. The unit has a ramp up
time after the destination coordinates are fed into the
computers. An audible alarm and a small light start a short
countdown at which point you should be secured in a seat. The
gravity field generated by the unit overtakes you very quickly.
You feel a tug toward the unit similar to rising quickly in an
elevator and it continues to rise based on the power setting the
unit is working under. At 100% power, the constant pull of
gravity can be as high as 2 Gs or more depending on how close
you are to the unit. There are no serious side effects but I try
to avoid eating before a flight. No bright flash of light is
seen. Outside, the vehicle appears to accelerate as the light is
bent around it. We have to wear sunglasses or close our eyes as
this happens due to a short burst of ultraviolet radiation.
Personally I think it looks like your driving under a rainbow.
After that, it appears to fade to black and remains totally
black until the unit is turned off. We are advised to keep the
windows closed as a great deal of heat builds up outside the
car. The gravity field also traps a small air pocket around the
car that acts as your only O2 supply unless you bring compressed
air with you. This pocket will only last for a short period and
a carbon sensor tells us when it's too dangerous. The C204 unit
is accurate from 50 to 60 years a jump and travels at about 10
years an hour at 100% power. You do hear a slight hum as the
unit operates and when the power changes or the unit turns off.
There is a great deal of electrical crackling noise from static
electricity.
05 November 2000 03:29 (about the future) 4
Pamela: 1. what are some of your memories of 2036'
Timetravel_0: I remember 2036 very clearly. It is difficult to
describe 2036 in detail without spending a great deal of time
explaining why things are so different. In 2036, I live in
central Florida with my family and I'm currently stationed at an
Army base in Tampa . A world war in 2015 killed nearly three
billion people. The people that survived grew closer together.
Life is centered around the family and then the community. I can
not imagine living even a few hundred miles away from my
parents. There is no large industrial complex creating masses of
useless food and recreational items. Food and livestock is grown
and sold locally. People spend much more time reading and
talking together face to face. Religion is taken seriously and
everyone can multiple and divide in the heads.
05 November 2000 03:29 (about time travel) 5
Pamela: 3.what would happen if you would meet yourself on
another world line'
Timetravel_0: It has always surprised me why that concept is so
hard for people to imagine and accept. Nothing would happen. The
universe would not end and there are no paradox problems that
threaten existence. Temporal space-time is made up of every
possible quantum state. The Everett Wheeler model is correct. I
have met and/or seen myself twice on different world lines. The
first was a training mission and the second is now. I was born
in 1998 so the other "me" is 2 on this world line. There is a
saying where I come from....Every possible thing that can happen
or will happen has already happened somewhere.
05 November 2000 03:29 (about time travel) 6
Pamela: 4.How is this world line different from your own'
Timetravel_0: For starters....the fact that I'm here makes it
different. I've also noticed little things like news events that
happen at different times, football games won by other
teams...things like that. I would guess the temporal divergence
between this world line and my original is about 1 or 2 percent.
Of course, the longer I am here, the larger that divergence
becomes from my point of view.
05 November 2000 03:29 (about time travel) 7
Pamela: 6.Are you having normal dreams right now' any out of
body experiences' drawing you to different times' Do you dream
you wake up in other places and other times'
TimeTravel_0: No strange dreams or other experiences. Everything
is pretty much the way I expected it.
05 November 2000 03:29 (about time travel) 8
Pamela: 7.are you able to control where you go or is it random'
Timetravel_0: Yes, it can be controlled. However, the distortion
unit has operational limits. Imagine your path through time is
through a cone. The farther away from the center of the cone,
the more differences you will see in the world line. The C204
begins to "break away" at about 60 years. This means the level
of confidence drops rapidly after 60 years of travel and the
world line divergence increases. In other words, if I wanted to
go back 2000 years and meet Christ, there is a better than
average chance I would end up on a world line where he was never
born. The computer units and gravity sensors "record" your trip
and you are quite easily able to return to your point of origin.
I am aware that research is being done on faster units with more
accurate clocks. I imagine that they will be able to go back
farther with a higher degree of divergence confidence.
05 November 2000 03:29 (about time travel) 9
Pamela: 8. are you feeling drawn back to your own time or are
you stable in this world'
Timetravel_0: I'm not sure what you mean by stable. If you mean
mentally...there are many things that bother me here but being
with my parents right now is important to me. Physically, the
only thing really wrong is the number of colds I get.
05 November 2000 03:29 (about time travel) 10
Pamela: 9.Are you able to go back to your own world line'
Timetravel_0: Yes.
05 November 2000 03:29 (about time travel) 11
Pamela: 10.how are you protecting yourself from radiation' it
alters DNA if you don't.
Timetravel_0: I'm not sure what radiation you mean. If you mean
from the unit, you can see it vents X-rays and Gamma radiation
out of the rear. As long as you stay away from that, you should
be okay. I keep a radiation detector with me to check my
environment and make sure the unit isn't "leaking".
05 November 2000 03:29 (about time travel) 12
Pamela: 11.How long would you say that ultraviolet radiation
lasts' about 10 seconds' and when you are in that light can you
see anything around you or does the light kind of "fill up"
everything and that is all you can see at the time'
Timetravel_0: The light bending only lasts a second. Its like
driving under a tunnel and being in total black.
05 November 2000 03:29 (about time travel) 13
Pamela: 12.Do your people know where you are right now' Can you
communicate with them' do you have a biological implant'
Timetravel_0: No. They do not know where I am and I can not
communicate with them. Interesting idea though. From their point
of view, I will return almost exactly at the same moment I left.
From their viewpoint, I will only have aged more than expected.
05 November 2000 03:29 (about time travel) 14
Pamela: 13. after the flash of light is gone are you then in
another time' what does it look like as the new time unfolds' Is
it just there' or does it slowly come into view' does it fade in
and out for a time'
Timetravel_0: While the machine is on. Everything is black. When
the machine is turned off, it is the reverse affect. It appears
you are driving out from a bridge. To tell you the truth, I'm
usually sleeping when the unit turns off but yes...it does
appear that the world fades in from black.
05 November 2000 03:29 (about time travel) 15
Pamela: 14. what happens if the device messes up' Do you end up
in space' if it goes offline and shifts ' does a hole open
elsewhere'
Timetravel_0: Good question!!! That one almost never comes up.
The hard part of traveling through time is not the bending of
gravity but the plotting of your course and holding to the basic
"position" in your environment. This is done through a system
called VGL (variable gravity lock). Basically, the unit takes a
reading of the local gravity and samples it during the "trip" in
pulses. If the gravity is too far off, the unit stops or
reverses itself to the last sample period where the readings
were correct. If there is some sort of failure, the unit shuts
down and drops out to where ever you may be.
05 November 2000 03:29 (about time travel) 16
Pamela: 15. what affects are caused on the immediate area where
the gravity has been distorted after you leave it and when you
arrive' are there permanent effects left on the land such as
electromagnetic disturbances in that area'
Timetravel_0: Another good question!!! The only real physical
trace is a large chunk of ground missing from the point of
origin and a large pile of dirt at the destination. The gravity
field surrounds a small portion of the earth under you and takes
it along for the ride. There is really no way around this.
06 November 2000 09:04 (about time travel) 17
Yes, you can travel forward in time. No, you do not need an
'invite' from the future.
06 November 2000 09:04 (about time travel) 18
You do not rewrite history. I can only affect what happens here
just as easily as you can
06 November 2000 09:08 (about the future) 19
No, the ice caps are not melting any faster than they are now.
There is also far less smog and industrial waste in 2036.
06 November 2000 16:43 (about the future) 20
You asked about the North Polar ice pack. I never said the
environment wasn't a problem. Doesn't water expand when it
freezes' If the polar ice cap melted, wouldn't sea level go
down' I don't know if there's enough ice for this to make a
difference and I'm not an expert on global warming.
06 November 2000 16:43 (about time travel) 21
Getting back to my 'proper' universe is tricky but possible.
Yes, another jump would take me to a different family.
06 November 2000 16:43 (about time travel) 22
Cement block' good question. The hard part of traveling to other
world lines is just that. There is a system of clocks and
gravity sensors that sample the environment before dropping out.
Its called VGL, (variable gravity lock). If a cement block were
there, the machine would 'backtrack' until it sensed relative
congruity to the original gravity sample. A great deal of time
and effort goes into picking just the right spot since you can
not physically move during a displacement.
06 November 2000 22:13 (about time travel) 23
Pamela: 1. can you explain to me in detail the basic physics and
mathematics behind how the machine operates' and exactly how it
distorts gravity.
Timetravel_0: 1) Time travel is achieved by altering gravity.
This concept is already proven by atomic clock experiments. The
closer an observer is to a gravity source (high mass), the
slower time passes for them. Traveling at high speeds mimics
this effect which = the twin paradox of faster than light
travel. However, this type of gravity manipulation is not
sufficient to alter your world line. The basic math to alter
world lines exists right now. Tipler first described a working
"time machine" through his theory of massive rotating spheres. I
apologize for the web site but it was the only one I could find
quickly. www.geocities.com... Certain types of black holes also
exhibit the "time travel" abilities of Tipler cylinders. Kerr
was one of the first to describe the dual event horizons of a
rotating black hole. As with Tipler's cylinders, it was possible
to travel on a "time-like" trip through a Kerr black hole and
end up in a different world line without being squished by the
gravity of the singularity. www.physics.fsu.edu... qso.lanl.gov...
www.leonllo.freeservers.com... www.astro.ku.dk...
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The mass and gravitational field of a micro-singularity can then
be manipulated by "injecting" electrons onto its surface. By
rotating two electric micro-singularities at high speed, it is
possible to create and modify a local gravity sinusoid that
replicates the affects of a Kerr black hole. For those asking
how come a micro-singularity doesn't swallow the Earth or want to
know details about the size, stability, mass, temperature and
resulting Hawking radiation from such a thing.. those details I
must keep to myself.
06 November 2000 22:13 (about time travel) 24
Pamela: 2. can you travel to the future as well as the past' my
understanding of the machine is the trip is recorded so you can
get back to your original time line but what about a future
beyond your time line are you able to access it as well' or does
it have to be open by a future chrononaunt'
Timetravel_0: Yes, you can travel into the future and it takes
less energy than going into the past.
06 November 2000 22:13 (about time travel) 25
Pamela: 3.I dont see the computer in the device. is it the hand
held device on the side of the larger device' If so what kind of
power supply does the computer work off of is it the battery as
well or some type of crystal'
Timetravel_0: The computer system is connected to the unit
through an electrical bus. There are actually three computers
linked together that take the same signals from the gravity
sensors and clocks. They use a Borda error correcting protocol
that checks the integrity of the data and trips the VGL system.
06 November 2000 22:13 (about time travel) 26
Pamela:4.Is your DNA remaining stable in this world or does it
shift' does time traveling affect your body or aura or spirit in
any way you know of'
timetravel_o: 4) I am not aware of any physical change to my DNA
or "aura". I do however seem to be more susceptible to colds.
06 November 2000 22:13 (about time travel) 27
Pamela: 5. when you go back to the future will we remember you'
Time travel_0: Yes, you will remember me if you want to. World
lines do not change that way and I will only become a
insignificant part of your history.
07 November 2000 17:18 (about time travel) 28
I would equate the "future" GM distortion units to their current
jet engines. The first one worked great but they can always make
it better. The C204 unit uses 4 cesium clocks. The C206 uses 6
cesium clocks but they use an optical system to check the
oscillation frequency. This makes the world line divergence
confidence much higher.