From 13 February
to 28 February 2001
02-13-2001 10:51 AM
I just have one question. Do you recognize the name (name from
forum)? I want to know because I fully intend to be a prominent
figure within the next 20 years.
No, I can't say that I do. However, since I'm archiving all of
this and will submit it with my report, it will eventually end
up on our Internet.
If you want to leave a message to yourself in the future, please
feel free to do so. I would make it broad enough so your name or
some other important word will pop up in routine search engine
that "you" might be using in 2036.
Also, be aware that the "you" in my 2036 will be unaware that
the "you" here left a message at all.
02-13-2001 11:23 AM
My whole reason for asking the unimportant questions is because
they are unimportant.
If it's unimportant to you why would it be important to me?
02-13-2001 01:51 PM
John has been unable to explain time travel. I will explain it
here.
I could be wrong but I don't recall being asked to "explain time
travel". If you could point that out to me in the posts I would
appreciate it.
So it's ritualized combat on the battlefield of differential
geometry. It's a shame we couldn't have more constructive
dialogue on the subject. Of course, I've left my physics book in
the time machine so unless you snuck in a hidden landmine, I
found your opening move very straightforward. However, you're
too confident I won't be able to offer an explanation that I'm
sure other physics fans will appreciate. I wonder if Einstein
and Grossmann did it this way or maybe they just listened to
each other and tried to build on what they thought would work.
Oh well.
Debunk my calculations on time travel. You can't, because you
are a fraud!
When I look up debunk, I see: "To expose or ridicule the
falseness, sham or exaggerated claims." The reason I cannot
debunk your calculations is because they are true. They are not
false, based on speculative facts or exaggerated. They are just
incomplete. What you really want me to do is finish your
explanation or I will be an imposter.
There are, however, certain quantities that do remain constant.
These constants are related to four-dimensional quantities known
as metric tensors. Actually, I don't think that's correct.
Minkowski space-time (4-D) will not allow you to use Pythagoras'
theorem to describe tensors because time needs to be expressed
with the opposite sign. (please excuse my change of variable
case).
ds2 = -c2dt2
+ dx2 + dy2 + dz2
(where ds describes time-like
and space-like trips).
The tensor we should be discussing
is:
ds2 = -a2dt2
+ w2(df - wdt)2 + (r2/ D)dr2
+ r2dq2
I hope I got the symbols right but
you should be able to recognize this…right? nuts... the a, f, r,
Delta and q didn't make the translation in this font.
The US government has its hands in everything from biological
tests to secret planes that can fly out of Earth's atmosphere.
Care to share with me how you solved
the overheating problem on your space lane?
I will get to and review the questions I missed. I apologize if
my answers seemed flippant. There are many posts I want to
respond to and I am unable to pay as much attention as I would
like.
02-13-2001 11:32 PM
As for John Titor's corrections on space-time manipulation, he
has completed it correctly. However, he is still an imposter.
Apparently, I have made the leap from "fraud" to imposter. At
least that's a start and I respect my opponent on his polite yet
quiet concession on the other thread. I wish to emphasize a
point I tired to make earlier. Even though I answered the
question correctly, it doesn't really prove one way or another
if I'm a time traveler and you should not think otherwise. I
might just be really quick at looking up things up on the web.
I suppose we could debate whether or not I'm a fraud all the way
up to the point I leave your worldline.
14 February 2001 02:55
Actually, it's sort of a good feeling knowing you're out there
keeping me honest.
02-14-2001 07:25 AM My Motive:
I've been in your time a bit longer than I had expected. My next
opportunity to go home comes in the spring. For most of my adult
life, I have read about, wondered and debated about this time. I
value this opportunity to share experiences. If you absolutely
believed I was a time traveler, with no skepticism whatsoever,
then we would be unable to communicate. The focus of our
attention would then always be on the machine. The experiences,
opinions and reasons you do things are just as valid as mine and
just as different.
I hope to return home with a better understanding of why you
think and believe the way you do. Although I do understand the
reasons for asking, I won't gain from any communication with you
by spouting physics formulas and pop culture predictions. Please
do not assume I am purposely avoiding questions. I am human, I
get tired, and I forget things. Please, just remind me if I
missed a question and I will get to it.
I do have one tip though. If you want me to go over your post in
detail put, "Hey John, you're a big Jerk." at the end of the
insightful and logical part, not the beginning. In fact, maybe
you could just abbreviate it and put a number rating from 1-100
next to it so I know how strong you feel. Something like, HJYABJ
(78).
It would save space.
The Physics of Time Travel: ACCELERATION = TIME DILATATION
As pointed out earlier, acceleration will produce time dilation.
This can be observed by the "twins paradox". As one twin stays
on Earth, the other twin in his accelerating spaceship
experiences a slower passing of time. When he returns to Earth,
he is noticeably younger than his twin who aged normally in
Earth time. This type of "time travel" should have been proven
already on this worldline with atomic clock experiments. With
sufficient power, this type of time travel will only provide
practical displacement in a future direction. This type of time
travel is also isolated to a single worldline.
You will not meet yourself.
GRAVITY = ACCELERATION
As Einstein pointed out with his STR, the effects of gravity and
acceleration are the same. Therefore, you will experience the
same time travel effects in the twin paradox by being close to a
large gravity source. In the atomic clock experiments mentioned
above, the reason there was a difference in time was not because
the clock in the plane was moving, it was because the clock in
the well was closer to the center of the Earth.
Constant speed is not acceleration.
LARGE GRAVITY = STATIC BLACK HOLE
The next step is to find a large gravity source to use in your
time machine. Static black holes provide this type of power. As
one twin approaches the event horizon or edge of the black hole,
the other twin will watch him as he appears to slow down. He
will notice his twin's watch run slower until it stops at the
event horizon. The twin moving toward the horizon will notice
none of this and see his watch running just fine. Although
possible, a trip into a static black hole will not take you to
another worldline and it's one-way.
The force of gravity will crush you.
ROTATING BLACK HOLE = DONUT-SHAPED SINGULARITY
Fortunately, most black holes are not static. They spin.
Spinning black holes are often referred to as Kerr black holes.
A Kerr black hole has two interesting properties. One, they have
two event horizons and two, the singularity is not a point, it
looks more like a donut. These odd properties also have a
pronounced affect on the black hole's gravity.
There are vectors where you can
approach the singularity without being crushed by gravity.
DONUT-SHAPED SINGULARITY = PASSAGE INTO ALTERNATE WORLDLINE
Another other more interesting result of passing through a donut
singularity is that you travel through time by passing into
another universe or worldline. Please see Penrose diagrams for
Kerr Black holes or you can examine the calculations of Frank
Tipler.
So now the problem becomes where do
we find a donut-shaped singularity?
A PONDERING HAWKING = MICRO-SINGULARITY
Steven Hawking proposed the existence of micro-singularities
that were created in the big bang. They were probably about the
size of a proton and disappeared over the years due to an effect
of radiation evaporation. (Yes, black holes do emit energy.)
HIGH ENERGY PHYSICS = ARTIFICIAL MICRO-SINGULARITY
When I first started posting online a few months ago, I said
that major breakthroughs in particle physics were around your
corner. Soon, CERN will bring their big machine on line and they
will be smashing very fast and high-energy particles together.
One of the more odd and potentially dangerous items produced
from this increase in energy will be micro-singularities a
fraction of the size of an electron. (
ARTIFICIAL MICRO-SINGULARITY = LOCALIZED KERR FIELD
Through trial and error, and although they are quite heavy, hot
and capable of putting out a great deal of energy (300 - 500
megawatts), it's discovered that these micro-singularities can
be electrified and captured. It is also interesting to note at
this point that electrified singularities also have two event
horizons. By spinning these various micro-singularities, a
localized Kerr field is created.
LOCALIZED KERR FIELD = TIPLER SINUSOID
By using two micro-singularities in
close proximity to each other, it is possible to create,
manipulate and alter the Kerr fields to create a Tipler gravity
sinusoid. This field can be adjusted, rotated and moved in order
to simulate the movement of mass through a donut-shaped
singularity and into an alternate worldline. Thus, safe time
travel.
I will continue with the individual posts next. Thank you for
your patience.
02-15-2001 12:07 PM
The following are personal rules I try to keep (unless of course
they conflict with my secret agenda). I look forward to
discussing any discrepancies you may find.
PERSONAL RULES FOR TEMPORAL DISCLOSURE:
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I will not disclose any
information that will cause someone to personally gain by
its knowledge.
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I will not disclose any detailed
information that would allow someone to avoid death by
probability.
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I will not disclose any
information that may compromise any future actions by
individual people or threaten their family and well being.
Thank you for your persistence and
patience. It would appear some of my more sarcastic comments are
directed at you. They are not and I apologize.
Your future is not unchangeable? Harm may come to a person if I
define them as someone who will do something in the future?
However, in this case, I just don't know. I am not familiar with
pop culture in 2001.
Are you avoiding inquiries for more personal reasons? Her logic
is sound and you're avoiding discussing some of the things that
people naturally find curious about other cultures.
I very much want to discuss our cultures but please help me
understand how you won't be able to change something I tell you
happened on my worldline.
What kind of music is popular, what kind of recreation is
enjoyable, what holidays are important?
I'm not sure if you wanted to discuss these or not. If yes, I
will be happy to do that.
Do you feel some pleasure in breathing clean air and not having
to check a radiation counter every few miles?
Yes I do. However there is a fear about being here that I can
only define as uncertainty. When I walk around in 2001, the air
smells clean but I wonder if it really is. In 2036, there is no
gray. The air is either clean or it will kill you. That feeling
is very overwhelming when I eat here.
Are there people in this time period who accept you as one?
I have a very few precious relationships with people online who
accept me as real or crazy and don't ask any questions. Much of
my email flows through them. My parents are the only ones that
have access to everything I could use to prove who I am.
How are you financing things?
I have taken very clever and reliable measures to go undetected.
Yes, there are probably people like that but I am not in active
conversation with them. My expenses are not that large. I spend
a great deal of time now archiving.
I spotted few typing errors in John's comments so I will assume
that he has had an average education.
You must be energized and anxious to improve your education
system then. Please tell me what you plan to do.
Name any near future event that makes history.
You mean other than the mad cow pandemic, the breakthroughs in
high-energy physics and the unknown functions of the 5100? I
realize I've only been on this board for a few weeks but I
assume you've read the other postings I've made about these
issues months ago in order to be so definitive.
If you are older than 36 then there should be 2 of you here now.
You would both have the same fingerprints and DNA. If you want
to prove your case then meet with your younger self and get some
evidence.
I am with my younger self. I don't have a case to prove and I
wonder how many needles I would be on the receiving end for that
one. With your superior education, I assume you already figured
out that pretty soon someone might try that with a clone. Be
careful what you take for definitive proof.
How long will you be here? When are you going back?
My first opportunity to go home is this spring.
What are you taking back with you?
A lot of hard drives filled with books, archived web sites,
pictures and audio files. I'm also taking back family items that
were lost in the war.
Is propane still around in the future?
Yes but not very much of it comes from natural gas. Hydrogen is
converted into propane because it's easier to handle.
I would hope the location I live in would be spared (the
Hawaiian Islands).
My parents went to Hawaii on their Honeymoon. My dad told me a
quick story about going to a fast food store and paying 6 or 7
dollars for a hamburger. I got an image in my head of a huge
tanker filled with frozen hamburgers headed into the Pacific.
Hawaii is very dependant on the mainland for food, isn't it?
Thank you for your kind words.
Logically he could easily question people of this time and get
all sorts of info without revealing himself. Mediums like the
Internet offer unique opportunities for communication. When I
return, I will be debriefed on my opinions about how people in
2001 will accept time travelers.
Why would he reveal himself if he
has no stated agenda for doing so?
I'm not sure I exactly said that.
Did John come here to give somebody a push to invent the Time
Machine?
I find this one the most interesting. What do you think would
happen if the United States, China or Russia suddenly developed
a time machine and the rest of the world found out about it?
John makes a verbal maneuver that turns a question back on the
one who asked it so they think he actually answered the
question; which he just avoided answering. He does this all the
time and I wanted to point that out before it happens again.
I am forced to admit I must rethink what I know about Mobius
loops.
Does the last name (forum personal name) have any historical
relevance?
You may leave a message to yourself if you wish.
What happens with Australia?
I believed I wrote about Australia a bit earlier.
What colloquial language is used in the future?
Many people use the Internet for communication and
entertainment. I would say that affects our speech. We type very
fast.
What exactly happens to the water?
Yes, radiation affected the water but that can always be
distilled out. There are biological hazards that cannot. In
addition, fresh water is hard to come by without talking to
someone with a gun first.
Have you met your parents here? What
do they think of you?
Yes. I am with them now. I would say it's a combination of fear
and relief.
Does time have ends?
Yes. It is believed that all worldlines end. It is also thought
that parallel worldlines that appear to be the same end at
different times.
John, if you were really a time traveler, you'd be dead. The
Earth, the solar system and the galaxy are all moving. If you
did travel back through time, you'd materialize in 1970 where
the Earth will be in 2036, which is the vacuum of space.
This is an excellent point and one I thought I went over a bit
earlier. There is a gravity lock system that compensates for the
local gravity outside of the Tipler sinusoid. This is the reason
the unit is only accurate to about 60 years.
You are inconsistent about not knowing anything about physics
but you're willing to discuss the operation of your machine.
Which is it?
I suppose I am thinking about the physics and the engineering as
separate subjects. I apologize for the confusion and I will be
happy to answer your questions more directly.
My questions were ignored. When I asked others, they were
skirted.
Perhaps we could just start over again?
You stated elsewhere that Australia repulses a Chinese invasion.
Does this mean Australian government side with your enemy?
There were deep divisions in Australia also. I would associate
it more with a powder keg than a civil war.
Does intercontinental transportation still exist? Have you
visited other countries?
Yes, but the market is much smaller. No, I have not been
overseas.
02-15-2001 05:06 PM
You have said you will not participate in helping anyone avoid
'death by probability'. Yet many things you have said could have
caused an individual to do or not do something that will now
result dying, or escaping death.
It would help if you could give an example. If you are referring
to the conflict and war in your future, I'm not sure I'm
specific enough to help any individuals avoid anything.
Suggesting there is a war coming is a bit different than saying
avoid Washington DC at 3:45 AM on March 12, 2015.
There is no way for you to be sure there is no future world
leader reading this and believing you.
Are you sure about that? Besides, I think you can have just as
much impact as any "future leader".
I don't believe you when you say you're not trying to prove to
us you're a real time traveler.
I submit there is no way for me to prove anything on the
Internet; therefore it makes no sense to desire it. What exactly
do you think I could do to prove it to anyone? I am confused by
your term "the show". Do you feel my only goal here is to
entertain?
Again, I am not unable to make you do anything nor would I want
that.
I learn a great deal about your culture from the words you write
(like right now). What do you think my goals are?
This thread has been all about you developing your story.
I'm not sure I understand this. How would "my story" differ it
was "developed"?
I find it hard to believe that a software tweak done to a 1975
machine would be enough to justify a time travel mission.
Ah, something we have in common. Yes, I felt that way too.
However, my job was to go and get it and not debate why they
wanted it. I am not a computer expert.
A great deal of the computer infrastructure you depend on is
based on very old systems and code. One of the reasons I was
sent to 1975 was because of the person I met there, not the
technology.
There are more effective ways to accomplish what you claim in
this regard.
Perhaps you would share them with me. You might be right and I
could make your suggestions when I return.
If indeed you support the model of time that all possibilities
occur in different universes then I cannot accept you.
I'm not sure I understand what you mean. If you believe in
Multiple World Theory, Hawking was not the one who first thought
of that. If you do, then I must be real if all possibilities
exist. As I recall, Hawking felt that it was possible to build a
machine but some sort of vacuum fluctuations would destroy it
right before you tried to use it.
You claim that you have no desire to prove your story yet
everything you have done has flown in the face of that.
I'm not sure that's true. In fact, I've tried to point out on at
least two occasions that anything I do (at the request of
someone else) to support my claims can be found someplace else
on your worldline right now.
What is more, you will tell us no names, no locations, or any
specifics as a result of your supposed ethics. If those were
indeed the ethics you were committed to and reasoned with, you
would not be here now.
I am curious about this also. Do you think I should not interact
with you for your safety or mine?
Time travel may be possible; you would not land on Earth. You
would land in a vacuum of space. You have to take into account
that the Earth, the solar system and the galaxy are all moving.
Yes, this is a problem. It was solved by taking a "snapshot" of
the local gravity around the unit before leaving a worldline and
incorporating it into the sinusoid during travel. The short
answer is, you "stick" to the earth but this is only a useful
explanation to understand it and it's not practical. Since the
computer system is using a virtual reference, the calculations
become flawed. Thus:
Based on the accuracy and timing of the "snapshots" the
distortion units are limited to how long they can travel before
becoming unstable.
We must leave and arrive in areas we have prior or future
knowledge of in order to avoid massive objects (buildings,
water, etc…)
The unit has a fail-safe system during travel that drops out in
case of a unit shutdown or radical departure in gravity
readings.
Answer this and I will believe you until the ends of the Earth.
Again, you should not offer this to anyone for any reason.
If John wants a way to prove anything then I am willing to look
over his proofs. However, just because I were to look something
over gives no more meaning to the rest of you than it would if
one of you looked his stuff over, believed it then told me.
Exactly!
How would someone that came here with no money, all of the
sudden have plenty of money?
The reason I don't have 2036 money is because it takes up
weight, space and can be faked and I can't use it for anything.
What type of expenses do you think a time traveler would have
that I would need so much money for?
Simply inscribe your knowledge of any large-scale events over
the next six months. Encrypt said text file. Give text file to a
custodian.
The only problem is, now you have to trust the person who brings
the information forward.
Do you believe that faith alone will get you to God? Do you
believe in an organized force of evil that works against men's
souls?
02-19-2001 11:03 AM
I believe that faith and good works will get one to God. I
believe there is an organized force of evil that works against
God's plan for men's souls. It's all part of the plan.
Please don't think me so cynical. I would never insult or
degrade someone's religious views. My next questions would be
"what about knowledge?" I am a firm believer that faith (and
good works) is not enough to get to God. There is a mystery we
must solve first.
I vaguely remember you mentioned being religious. How would you
answer your own questions?
Yes, I believe in organized evil. It would sure be easier to
carry out an "evil" plan if no one beloved you existed. Just
curious, can anyone tell me what "Satan" really means?
Had to answer those quickly. I have nothing but open-mindedness
for religious conversation and I look forward to more. I'll get
to the other questions soon.
Thanks.
02-19-2001 01:14 PM
ARTIFICIAL MICRO-SINGULARITY = LOCALIZED KERR FIELD
Is this a prediction?
If you can take that paragraph and find a way to make a dollar
from it than more power to you.
I never said you're an idiot, I said you are aggravating. Which
is not really a personal problem.
Point taken. I apologize.
You only discuss things that you care about. Seems rather
one-sided to me.
I was hoping it wouldn't be so confrontational. I don't see how
words can harm either one of us.
You must believe that we both have interesting things to say to
each other. Isn't that worth it all by itself? What state do you
live in now in 2001?
I am in Florida.
Is John Titor your real name?
Yes, John Titor is a real name.
What is your agenda?
If I tell you, it would just be an agenda, which I'm sure, is
much less interesting.
Is this dialogue between people in these posts part of your
agenda?
If I had a secret agenda, talking to people would not be part of
it.
Does your younger self realize what you are?
Yes, he is aware that I exist but he doesn't know who I am.
Are you married?
No but I did have a chance to convince myself otherwise.
What rank were you in the Army?
It is the equivalent of Major.
Where did you go to basic training?
I wasn't fortunate enough to go to basic. We were fighting a war
at the time.
What company were you with, and what year did you graduate?
The organization of the fighting unit I was in fell under the
militia. We fought against the organized army.
Do you have any fears?
I fear people who want others to take action based on their own
emotions and irrational fears.
What are the rules for interacting with people who aren't from
your time; do you make friends easily?
Have common sense and get your job done. Yes, I have friends.
What would the government do to you if they found you?
I'm sure I would end up in one of their nice little padded cells
while they poked at my machine with a screwdriver. What do you
think they would do? What would you do if someone investigated
you? Aren't you worried that it's only a matter of time before
you are found?
I don't worry about that very much. No one believes me anyway.
Right?
And you said; "I very much want to discuss our cultures but
please help me understand how you won't be able to change
something I tell you happened on my worldline."
Suppose I told you the space shuttle would have a problem
landing at Kennedy tomorrow because something goes wrong with
the runway. If someone with the authority to do so hears that
and makes the decision to land at Edwards (than) bingo, your
future has changed from my past. I appreciate you answering
these questions for me John, and thank you for calling me your
friend.
I'd really like to believe that.
Rest assured, if I went to the authorities and said, "I know a
time traveler" I'd get laughed at. The skeptics will always over
rule the "believers".
If that were not the case, I would not be posting at all.
The US government, Russian or anyone else would be in the same
boat. They would grab and hold any time travelers.
Yes, that's what I think too. The irony is, I'm not sure the
machine will really do anything for them and all I can give them
is stock quotes and sports news. (Just a little humor.)
John, please don't take my comments about being a fraud
personally. I only want the honest truth.
I don't. Truth is something we all want. Like opportunity, its
something you have to be ready for to recognize it.
John, what would it take to get you to stay after spring and
leave during the next opportunity?
My parents are much better at cards than I am. I fear they may
not let me leave in such debt. If I had all the time I needed, I
would spend much more time downloading and archiving.
I fear that another month or 2 may not be enough time as I would
like.
I will continue to answer the posts as long as I can.
In your "world time" have things like "Saquatch" , "Loch Ness
monster", and other reported unusual animals?
We have our swamp monsters too. In fact, I think it's
interesting that we all respond to the unknown the same way
regardless of our cultural experiences.
Is remote viewing used to gather
military intelligence?
I am only aware of it from this worldline. I don't know
otherwise.
Are psychics still common?
Yes, psychics exist but I don't have any knowledge of their use
by the military.
Is there a police force as we know it? Have any of your leaders
been jailed or impeached?
Yes, we have police but they are organized in smaller groups.
Yes, we still have political and religious leaders who find it
difficult to obey the law. I would submit to you that the law is
only as good as the people's willingness to apply it evenly and
swiftly.
Will you post more pictures or pages of the manual?
Yes, I am pondering posting more of the manual. I am also
considering having my departure videotaped and yes, it will be
free. My only concern is how it might affect the "me" on this
worldline.
Is there a Global Superpower state?
Being a superpower only makes you a target. There is an uneasy
balance in the world now that everyone "probably" has nukes,
chems or bios. We don't just bomb people for the hell of it
anymore. Military power is based on the number of autonomous
fighting men who are actually willing to fight.
I guess you are held accountable for changes that occur in your
time period.
You're pretty much correct about your statement but actually,
nothing I do here will affect my home. I hold myself accountable
for any damage I do.
In my opinion, people "now" take clean water, electricity and
their feeling of safety for granted. If they leave the city in
search of fresh water they first have to make the realization
that fresh water is a problem. It's much easier to demand
someone else owes you fresh water than it is to leave the
lifestyle that made it bad in the first place.
If I were transposed to the 1920's or 30's, you would have a
hard time keeping me off the streets.
I agree with you. The first time I walked into a "superstore" I
cried. I'd never seen so much excess in one place at one time.
It is interesting that the photos posted were posted by an
"anonymous time traveler".
Those are mine. They were posted by another person who I'm sure
is reading this also and would be happy to confirm that.
I see there is a hand control unit with a screen on it. I assume
this is the computer interface. What does the display show you?
Yes, that is a remote unit. The unit itself gets hot and
"unapproachable" during long travel and you're usually subjected
to about 2 G's. It gets a little difficult to move around and
the hand held unit sits next to you. The unit displays many
things but time in transit, time to destination, VGL variance
and unit temperature are the most common during travel.
Also, there are 16 buttons. I have to assume further that these
are multifunction keys.
Yes, the menus are screen driven.
19 February 2001 16:01
What weapons did you use to protect yourself? Do you have a
weapon now?
I used a shotgun in the war. Yes, I think it's prudent to be
prepared for anything.
What is your favorite food?
Oranges, I love them.
Your enemy was in the cities. Was the President in 2005 also on
the enemy side? How did you feel personally about the President
then?
The President or "leader" in 2005 I believe tried desperately to
be the next Lincoln and hold the country together but many of
their policies drove a larger wedge into the Bill of Rights. The
President in 2009 was interested only in keeping his/her power
base.
While you were in the 1970's what
did you think of Nixon?
To tell you the truth, I was more fascinated by the different
standards Presidents are held to.
Do you plan to do any more time traveling when you return to
2036?
I don't know if I will be chosen for another mission. If I do,
most likely, I will fly as an advisor or historical consultant.
Do you have any doubts about this time travel experience and the
computer mission that you are on?
Absolutely. I have to believe there is an easier way to do this.
What have you learned the most from the people of this board?
There is a fire of intelligence and expression out there in the
people who are criticized for their open-mindedness. I fear it
will only be uncovered in the rest of the population through
conflict. I was under the impression that most people were
sleeping in this period but I suppose that generalization is too
broad for any time period.
Where did you learn the use of "Gosub" in computer programs?
Gosub / Return. In one form or another, isn't that a pretty
standard function in most computer languages?
Where did you learn to write English? How much time did it take?
I'm not so sure I write perfect English. I do read a great deal
more than I see most people doing here.
Was China your enemy?
Not my enemy? I never fought any Chinese but their ability to
hit Western cities with missiles made a lot of people unhappy.
Do they have (old computer games) in 2036?
I am aware they are video games but I have not come across them.
Does China have a manned space program between 2001 and 2036?
I believe they are pretty close to putting a man in orbit. It
shouldn't surprise you if they do that soon.
Do you have any problems with the number thirteen?
Not personally.
If the worldlines are changed by choices why do we still meet
people that coincide with our previous worldline?
Your worldline takes form as the choices unfold. People do not
disappear because you must follow the same physical laws that
hold you here. (i.e. Information cannot travel faster than light
on a worldline.)
In your opinion, would timelines be
better represented as an inflated balloon, or a layered Rubix
cube?
Balloon in balloon in balloon. A Rubix cube as in the toy,
right?
Do you have television in 2036?
Information does arrive on video but cathode ray tubes are out
and crystal or plasma is in. Distribution is over the net, not
broadcast.
Do you have flashlights in 2036? If so, what type of batteries
does it use?
Yes, we have flashlights and we use similar batteries for most
things. We do recharge a great deal. Have you ever seen those
wind-up radios? They're pretty interesting I think.
How is electricity generated in 2036?
"Most" publicly generated power is through very efficient solar
cells. On a local or household level, there is steam, hydro and
inversion generation. There is a debate on using a singularity
to generate power.
Does the sun look different in 2036?
When you can see it through the high level smoke and haze, not
that I'm aware of.
What sort of clothing do you wear in 2036? Is there strong
attention paid to what people wear in the group?
Clothing is much more functional. I'm not sure what group you're
talking about.
Where were you born?
I was born in Florida.
02-19-2001 07:25 PM
It took you five days to answer those questions. Is that the
best you could do?
How many days seem normal?
You said you went to basic training on the other forum which is
how you got involved in time travel. Be consistent.
Your question referred to army basic training. My earlier
comment referred to be chosen for this mission.
You answered like a politician. You stepped around the truth
without actually lying but it's logical enough to keep your
story going.
I'm not sure but it sure looks like your trying to say I'm being
truthful within your expectations. However, if you're trying to
hurt my feelings, comparing me to a politician will do it.
I guess you are held accountable for changes that occur in your
time period.
My only concern is how it might affect the "me" on this
worldline.
Actually, this is a good question. If the "me" here goes on to
have the same type of life and future work that I did, it may
not look good on his resume that another "him" has left a
videotape behind of his future mission to 1975.
So where do you stand? You're not being very clear and you
always give a conflicting point to other questions you've had to
answer. Why is it always about you?
If you look at my concern carefully, you can see that it won't
affect me at all. It affects him.
John says no one believes him. Is that right? He's in Florida
and goes by the name of John Titor. Show him how much you
believe him (when you find him).
I'm touched by your concern for my safety.
02-20-2001 05:06 AM
John had a (50/50) chance of telling us the future.
Yes, there was a 50/50 chance of that happening but the odds
were easily one out two that it could have gone the other way.
02-20-2001 09:58 PM
Perhaps it goes without saying but I would urge everyone to
listen to (popular late night radio show host) show tonight.
20 February 2001 12:01
Thanks for your reply. Can you please clarify some of these
points?
It's what I live for although I can't help but feel you're not
exactly asking these questions for their own sake.
Describe what you mean by functional. Do you wear light colors,
dark colors, loose, tight fitting? What materials are used for
the clothing?
Seems a bit obscure to have a discussion about. Do we wear
radiation suits? No. Do we use pockets a lot, yes.
How does this smoke and haze allow for solar cells to be
efficient?
Do you have any idea how efficient solar cells are today?
Sometimes it's sunny and sometimes it rains. Sometimes large
dust clouds high in the atmosphere pass overhead. I don't
understand the point you want to make. The sun looks the same.
Where did you learn to write and how old were you? How did you
learn to type so fast?
I was home schooled and I spend a lot of time typing.
"Gosub / Return. In one form or another, isn't that a pretty
standard function in most computer languages?
I beg to differ on this point. I may not be a computer
programmer but I do know that going away to perform one function
and returning to the original function is basic to all software.
Perhaps it may be called something else in various languages.
Did you have a historical consultant to help you?
No, fairly easy job.
What do you call these batteries?
Good and bad, same as you.
"Rubix cube a toy? Where'd you get that idea?"
I've seen references to them in various science papers. If I'm
mistaken, what are you referring to?
2-21-2001 08:26 AM
I'll look for it, thanks. I have a couple for you (book
recommendations). The Nine Nations of North America and/or The
Physics of Immortality (anyone recognize this author).
Would you be able to travel by going to the year 2001, flying a
plane to a destination, then go to the future from there?
You can only travel in time from a static position (at least
with the unit I have). In order to do this, you must have
knowledge of the local terrain and building structures. That's
one of the basic protocols we do in any time period for
possible, future travelers.
If each worldline is separate from the others, then wouldn't the
consequences of your actions now have no effect on your original
worldline?
Yes, that's correct.
If this is the case, why won't you tell us things that will give
us knowledge?
I am not qualified to judge if you deserve it or not and I have
no idea if you may be the next (for lack of a better reference)
Hitler. However, if I were able to physically help you from a
situation because I was there and I knew it was coming, I would
help you.
My only guess is that you are not a time traveler, and don't
want to make anyone do something stupid.
Yes, I am aware that is the obvious first answer but I would
hope my moral and logical arguments at least make a dent in your
thinking. If you were a time traveler, would you be comfortable
giving out all that information after considering the possible
consequences? (Provided you knew it). If I were you, I would be
worried about what the next time traveler might do, even by
mistake.
How can I leave a message for myself in the future if the things
I do in this worldline do not affect any other?
Just post it here. All this information will probably end up on
the web in 2036. If you're alive then and you think ahead for
some reason to do a search on yourself, you might see it. Of
course the "you" there would have no memory of doing it.
Your prediction of (national politics) pending disintegration,
beginning in three short years, is impossible.
Have you see the documentary on Waco? Just for argument's sake,
what do you think would happen if information were discovered
that confirmed the worst accusations made against the law
enforcement officers there? Would you hope nothing?
The idea of a farmer general leaving his fields to lead his
country's troops to victory is an old one.
Yes, I often think about that when I see pictures of "my" farmer
general in Omaha. It's a large bronze depiction holding a
shotgun in one hand a copy of the Constitution in the other. He
is looking up at the sky in defiance of God after his father was
killed.
I guess there are only a few stories and all of them are just
re-telling of the same ones in different settings.
Just like life.
02-21-2001 01:29 PM
If you take a look, I am answering every question in order
unless I see something quick that I think needs a response.
Thanks.
02-21-2001 04:22 PM
How far from what size city is it the safest to be?
A 10 Kiloton nuclear weapon will vaporize metal for about ½ a
mile and have a heat effect for about 3 miles. A 100 Megaton
nuclear weapon will vaporize metal to 35 miles and have a heat
effect to about 250 miles. I believe the largest nuclear weapon
ever built and tested was about 60 megatons.
As I recall, the popular strategy toady is to strike targets
with multiple numbers of smaller warheads. The 100 Kt to 1 Mt
are the most popular. I believe there are about 150 - 200 major
cities in the US and half as many military targets. Please
correct me someone if I am grossly incorrect.
You suggest a bicycle. What about horseback?
Yes, horses are good if you can feed and water them. Also, it's
very hard to eat a bicycle.
Should we be stockpiling guns?
The answer to this is NO! You will draw a great deal of negative
attention to yourself. I recommend becoming familiar with
firearms. This means taking a safety course and learning to
shoot and clean many different types. There will be plenty of
guns around when you need them.
What kind of people will be the ones least trustworthy?
The people with the most to lose if the world changes, Camel
through the eye of a needle? Is the conflict racial?
Not at all. In fact, I would say it goes a long way toward
erasing racial problems.
Does the civil war start in such a way that those willing will
have time to remove themselves to safer locations.
Yes. You will be forced to ask yourself how many civil rights
you will give up to feel safe.
Will you readily be able to identify the enemy?
They will be the ones arresting and holding people without due
process.
Does living near a river take care of water problems?
There is an odd saying that might be appropriate here. Safe is
anywhere a hungry person can't walk in three days. Water is
important but you must consider that when people need it they
will know where to get it. I would not plan on planting myself
permanently next to a water source. Yes, distillation dose make
water safe but the runoff is highly dangerous. Please remember
that distillation is not boiling.
How are the five people within the 100 miles contacted?
The goal is to have a place to go other than your house and to
be able to trust someone with your life. Foster those
relationships now.
Do communications stay intact during
the war?
Main communication systems no, CB, sideband and non-repeating
short-wave, yes. Be mobile. Set aside the things you absolutely
would need and can carry on your back. You will not be able to
stay anywhere indefinitely even with provisions and firearms.
Will soldiers be asked to kill their countrymen?
I'm not positive but don't they sign a small piece of paper now
asking them if they would have a problem with that?
02-21-2001 08:20 PM
In this experiment the traveler only goes 30 seconds into the
past. It seems that 30 seconds before his experiment was to
begin he saw himself appear in the lab. There would now be two
travelers and two time machines. It would appear that its a time
loop and an infinite number of duplicates see a duplicate self
appear in the lab thirty seconds prior to the start of the trip.
Yes, that's possible.
What is the mass of the duplicate time travelers and where did
the mass come from?
The other mass comes from other worldlines. I like to think of
it as standing in a room with mirrors on the walls and the
apparent "me" in the room next to mine steps into the room from
his.
What is the result of the duplicates arriving simultaneously?
Psychological confusion and a few fist fights.
How long will it take for the loop to decay?
The chances of hitting the precise worldline where all the other
duplicates are arriving is almost zero. It's possible but
increasingly less probable with each arriving duplicate. The
divergence decays and the worldline is "less available" for new
"yous" to arrive on.
What happens if the experimenter decides not to continue the
experiment?
He can always leave the room on his own worldline or put a desk
full of books in the position where the time machine is arriving
every 30 seconds. That will probably trip the VGL system and
stop the time machines from arriving.
Do you remember any poetry after 2001 in your past?
A Soldier's Winter
The day before it wasn't
snowing.
The trees are strangers, leering, disapproving in the ash of
winter ..my world, my life, my wandering path.
I pray God's eyes may once again gaze upon me and remind me
that I am still His child.
I only (think) I remember the first line but the last one I
remember. It has quite a few more lines that I don't
remember. It is rumored this was written first as a letter
by a soldier. After he died it was added to and edited by
others. In my opinion, it has become a symbol for the
collective guilt my parents' generation feels for what
became of the world.
Is there a market for new books in
2036? Are most of the books available old or new?
Yes but there are no large commercial printing and distribution
companies. Books and other forms of hard media are distributed
on the web and printed or put on other media from local hubs.
As a rough judge of character, have you read J.R.R. Tolkien? Did
you enjoy them?
My father read the Hobbit to me as a child. I was always afraid
of the dark riders but perhaps I admired them too.
02-22-2001 10:08 AM
I will get to all the questions. I'm trying to comment on them
in order. I'm posting the names before all the questions so if
you feel I missed something just bring it up again.
I saw something last night that I want everyone's opinion on.
Its concerning two television commercials advertising the same
cellular phone product. The first commercial I didn't understand
right away but the second was obvious.
In the first commercial, a man dressed in cold weather gear
appears to be in a snowstorm. He's on a cellular phone saying
goodbye to his family as if he was going to die in the storm. We
then see he is standing in front of a snow machine at a ski
resort area.
In the second commercial, another man dressed in cold weather
gear is talking on a cellular phone. We see a young women
inviting him to a romantic evening. He seems a bit stunned and
excited, hangs up the phone and runs off. We then see he has
abandoned an unconscious person he was giving emergency medical
treatment to.
What do you think of these commercials?
02-23-2001 11:19 AM
I assume you do a lot of reading. Do you read fiction?
I am a big fan of Conrad, Twain, London and any type of
religious apocryphia.
What brought you to this website?
When I decided to present or revel myself as a displacement
driver I had been watching similar boards for quite a while. I
believe the only way to accept what I have to say as being
remotely possible requires an open mind able to temporarily
suspend major portions of the belief and logic system. In his
own strange way, even (forum name who consistently confronts
John) falls into this category. I would much rather talk to him
than a straight line, give me the equations physicist. I don't
gain any insight that way.
And here is another character question. Have you seen George
Lucas's Star Wars Trilogy?
Yes I have seen them. I like the first one the best and the
"next one", in my opinion, isn't that great either. That's a
heck of a battery those light sabers.
What happens to Bill Clinton?
I don't really know.
What happens to Bill Gates?
This I do know but I won't discuss.
02-24-2001 07:05 AM
Why are orphans an issue?
Problems with the environment still have lasting affects on all
people, which cause the average life span to (be) lower. In
addition, people are more susceptible to accidents. Family life
and children are very highly valued and the community takes the
responsibility for raising children if their parents die.
What is your biggest environmental
issue?
Water. You need it for everything and there is very little left
in the world that is positively safe to drink.
Does distillation remove radioactivity from water?
It removes the dust and dirt particles that are radioactive.
Do people still watch TV?
Yes but it isn't broadcast anymore.
Are there women on your travel team?
Not that I'm aware of but I would assume there are women who are
either trained or are training for the same type of work. I
don't know why there wouldn't be.
What is the status of women in 2036?
I understand the question but I have nothing to relate it to in
2036. The status of women is the same as men. Equality issues
disappeared during the war.
Do women hold office?
Yes.
Do women work outside the home?
Women are not expected to stay home and be "barefoot and
pregnant" if that's what you mean.
Do women get equal pay?
Yes.
Are women safe on the streets at night?
There is still crime but people do not attack each other the way
they do here.
What do women wear for the most part?
Clothing is more functional. Women
wear very similar clothing as men when working or training. In
our free time or with our family and friends, clothing is much
more individualized. Long dresses, knitted sweaters and pants
are still quite popular. You'll have to forgive me; I'm not very
good at describing women's clothing.
Are the Amish alive and well?
Yes, I believe they are.
What is the birth rate?
I don't know the exact figures but having children is radically
lower than it is now. It is the one thing I wish we had that you
enjoy here.
Is there an unusual rate of birth
defects?
Yes. Mostly stillborn.
You said that your culture was centered around Universities.
Weren't they wiped out in the war?
Not all major universities are in large cities.
Do you use cell phones?
Yes, we use a form of cell phone.
Do people eat red meat?
Yes but not as much as you do.
Do people drive cars?
Yes but they are not produced in nearly the same numbers or used
the same way.
Are airlines in operation?
Yes but again, not nearly as many.
Do airlines travel internationally?
Yes, but most people don't get really want to go overseas.
Are people pressured into a Christian doctrine?
Not at all.
Do the police make drug busts?
No.
Are there jails? What kind of criminals are in them?
Yes there are jails. Mostly theft, fraud, rape and murder.
What kind of public punishment is there?
Hard labor, community service, banishment (you must move to
another community), public execution.
Your justice system sounds like New England during religious
persecution and intolerance.
How do you define intolerance? We don't really have the energy
or desire to waste time being intolerant. If you produce and
help the community than you can do pretty much think and do
anything you want within the law.
Are there herbal medicines and alternative life styles?
Yes.
Is there personal freedom?
Yes, the same freedoms you enjoy under the Constitution.
Is there an IRS?
Yes, we pay taxes. Sounds like you don't enjoy keeping track of
your personal income taxes. I don't think anyone does.
Is the same type of currency used? Is ours today good in 2010 or
2020?
Yes, we use money. That's a good question. I don't see why you
couldn't use your current bills in the future.
Other than time travel how do most people get around the
country? Do people travel much?
There is a high-speed train system, horseback, bike, walking.
Automobiles are used mostly for sport and some transportation.
Are people suspicious of strangers or are all you people just
one big happy family?
There is still conflict and mistrust. Yes, I am suspicious of
strangers. I think that's an instinct we are given to help us
stay alive.
How do most people die during the war?
In this order: Starvation - Disease - Bullet Wounds - Radiation.
02-24-2001 04:49 PM
Its been pointed out to me that the links to the pictures are
all down for some reason.
If anyone has a public site I can post them again, I will be
happy to see that they get to you.
02-25-2001 01:36 AM
John, do they have anything to do with the "future" of time
travel?
There are numerous people and organizations that contribute to
the practical application of physical time travel. I think you
would be surprised how much real work is being done right now.
Let's assume you video your departure and your family sends the
tape to someone. How would this affect you in the future?
It wouldn't affect me on my home worldline in the least. I would
only be concerned how it would affect the "me" here. Of course
it may be a large part of my secret agenda and I have no choice
but to do it anyway. I doubt that anyone could determine that
you actually time traveled, but it would be a good show.
I wonder what it would have been like to see a plane break the
sound barrier before the jet engine was invented?
You said that there will be a big war.
Can you at least tell us which
cities will be nuked?
No I won't do that. However, I submit to you that when the
moment comes it will be absolutely plain as day that you are
unsafe in the cities. The millions people that stay will choose
to stay. That's what comes as a surprise.
Are we traveling in space in 2036?
Not yet but they are working on it.
Has first contact with an alien race occurred?
Not that I'm aware of.
02-25-2001 07:31 AM
You say your machine has a 60-year limit. Is it possible to go
back 60 years and then again another 60 years?
Yes, that is possible but the divergence grows exponentially as
you move farther away from your worldline of origin. I could
make 50-year jumps to go back and see what the world looked like
2000 years ago but there is a strong chance it would look
nothing like what I expect. There are larger distortion units
that are more accurate and have a larger window.
Have the people in 2036 proved the "worldline theory?" Is there
any information you can share with is that proves it?
The Many Worlds theory seems to wrap up very nicely into current
string theory. Unfortunately, we have not solved string theory
yet either but (n-10) seems to be the best working model we have
in 2036. As you are probably aware, the "big equation" does not
need the final solution in order to take advantage of the
smaller parts that do work in the real world.
You say you don't want to effect anything by giving information
but you could change this worldline just by talking about the
war, or anything for that matter.
I don't believe that knowing a possible future makes it happen.
You are capable of changing your worldline for the better right
now. None of the things I have said will be a surprise. They
were set in motion ten, twenty, even thirty years ago. Are you
really surprised to find out that Iraq has nukes now or is that
just BS to whip everyone up into accepting the next war?
02-25-2001 01:00 PM
John Titor, I would love to come along with you for a ride to
the future.
I appreciate the offer but I'm not sure you would like the year
2036.
What is the next movement in music?
I appreciate your frustration and quite a few people have asked
me questions like this. The expected answer is that I don't want
to break my personal code of "time travel ethics". The real
answer is, I just don't know. I was not prepared for the year
2001, I was prepared for 1975. I don't suppose it would be very
impressive if I told you Disco would be big until 1980.
Am I getting this? You can load up all the people who want to in
the back of your Chevy pickup?
Actually, the requests were rhetorical. No one is going back
with me.
Thanks. One thing I do find interesting about time travel tech
is the expectation that we can pretty much go anywhere at
anytime. These systems are quite complicated and they do have
limitations. Are you going to be around in 1975?
02-26-2001 09:16 AM
Better then being a fanatic; who believes in people so blindly
fanatic (n.) A person possessed by an excessive zeal for an
uncritical attachment to a cause or position.
Nuclear warfare doesn't seem to be the biggest form of fighting
in the future.
Nuclear war will be very effective at destroying an enemy's
economy and the people's will to fight.
I doubt nuclear warheads are going to be shot from each end of
the globe.
I would caution against that. That's exactly what "they" want
you to think while they continue to develop smaller and more
accurate MIRV's. Have you ever seen a neutron bomb the size of a
basketball?
John, you say one of the hardest things to do in 2036 is find
clean water. You also say you only trust food you've grown. Is
any of this a result of your experiences with biological
warfare?
Yes and no. Yes, biological warfare and accidents do cause a
great deal of problems but the lack of a working infrastructure
also hinders the continuation of the food manufacturing you
depend on now.
Is there any more background information you can give?
Once I leave, I would not want any attention to come to my
family here.
I'm guessing the date of your return to the future is April
19th.
That is a day to remember but I was thinking more along the
lines of March 21.
The most likely leader of a war movement like the one you
describe would most likely be a Farmer.
Throughout history, farmers have often been a target of
oppression because they are absolutely necessary to civilization
but too busy to defend themselves. If you push a farmer too far,
they stop growing food and have nothing to do but hide in the
woods and shoot back.
My asking you if the mention of CERN as a prediction was a
genuine question and had nothing to do with making money. Is
this comment a hint about the future?
Please do not be offended by my "making a buck" remark. I say it
with a wink to help other people form their questions. Yes, some
very interesting things will be going on at CERN in the near
future.
What is interesting are the type of questions being asked, and
the apparent hostility that you're being subjected to for no
reason.
Yes, I find that interesting too. Sometimes I wonder what people
are really angry about and I have come to the conclusion that
frustration is better directed at the messenger. But then again,
that's history.
I'm sure even in 2036 there is a tendency to tease one's
detractors if they make themselves available.
I have no intention of teasing anyone but I do grow tired of the
same cycle over and over again. Eventually, the people who do
not like me or what I have to say (real or not) will win. I will
either leave or grow tired of answering the same questions.
If your most vociferous detractor continually puts on weak
attacks; it takes attention away from the really challenging
questions.
Again, please do not confuse my inability to answer the same
questions over and over with a desire to make someone upset. I
gain nothing by angering anyone or making them look foolish.
He knows what "make a buck" and "more power to you", and "off
the cuff" mean.
I know my English isn't perfect but I blame my parents for most
of the phrases I pick up (wink). It's different sometimes seeing
them in print than hearing them. It took me quite a while to
shake off "sock it to me baby". "Cool" seems to be the longest
lived phrase I've heard so far and "peace" seems to be making a
comeback.
What book written 1884 is required reading for all physics
students? If he doesn't know this it lends more evidence to the
fact that he is not a time traveler.
Well, I'm pretty sure it's not the Principia and it looks more
like something to do with Maxwell but to make your point, just
about anything can be looked up.
What if John makes a recording of himself and submit that to a
voice stress analysis.
I've heard a tack in the shoe works. It throws off the baseline
"no stress" readings. Also, if you speak slowly enough, you can
beat those programs.
02-26-2001 07:01 PM
Is your sense of "timing" off in new time environments?
No, my timing isn't off. I do however find myself stopping in
mid-stride and paying extra attention to my environment when I
forget "when" I am. When I was a child, my mother would tell me
stories about angels. She told me that angels found it hard to
communicate with man because man could remember his past but
couldn't see the future. Angels, acting as the eyes and servants
of God, had no memory of the past but had infinite knowledge of
the future. Although I am no angel, I often thought about that
story after I left 2036. Besides that, I do get a lot of colds.
John, you were born about halfway into this cycle. Gen-Xers
would be about 4050 years old in 2036.
In my opinion, the Gen Xr's ended up in two categories. There
were the ones who had learned to be independent by breaking away
from tradition and societies expectations and the others who had
no idea how to take care of themselves and just wanted the
trains to run on time. The ones in the first group feel very
guilty about "letting" the world go to Hell and the ones in the
second group are dead.
02-27-2001 10:15 AM
You say you were in the militia fighting the US Army. I would
think civilians would have no chance of successfully fighting
the military.
You must realize that why people are fighting is more important
that what they are fighting with. The conflict was not about
taking and holding ground it was about order and rights. They
were betting that people wanted security instead of freedom and
they were wrong.
Is it a stalemate with the resistance/militia hiding out until
the cities are wiped out allowing them to surface?
The cities were not isolated because of them; they were isolated
because of us.
You cite the approximate number of cities and military bases
intact before the nuclear attack. Are they all hit?
Nuclear weapons and guidance systems are less than perfect. Most
targets receive more than one warhead but some of them were more
accurate than others. I would estimate the overall accuracy was
around 60 to 70 percent.
Three day's walk from where?
In my experience, a motivated starving person is only capable of
walking about three days. The more distance you put between
yourself and anyone who is likely to be hungry, the better.
Does anyone stay neutral during the war?
Some try to.
Does anyone lead a normal life during the civil war?
No.
You say the civil war lasts from 2004 to 2008 and then the short
big war in 2015. What do the years from 2008 to 2015 look like?
How long does WWIII last.
I'm not sure I said that exactly. By 2008, I would say the civil
conflict is pretty much at everyone's doorstep. Western
instability during the conflict leads to the attack in 2015.
WWIII is very short with a longer period of mop up.
You mention Canadians but I don't think you mentioned the impact
on that country.
There's not a great deal I know about Canada except to say they
were pretty much in the same type of conflict. They did have the
Dew Line you know.
You said the position of women is controversial and conservative
in 2036. What does that mean?
It certainly isn't disrespectful. I apologize if it sounded that
way. It's one of those areas I realize will be difficult to
discuss because we may lack similar experiences. In 2036, there
is not a desire to "have it all". With factors such as the
difficulty in conceiving and the decentralization of production
and industry, there is not an unrealistic scramble to have a
"career" and a family. Out of necessity and circumstance, family
life has become more traditional. However, there are many
families where the wife / mother is the main breadwinner and the
husband / father remains "home" with the family. The difference
is in the method of decision-making. People do not have children
(if they are able) unless they can devote the required resources
to maintain it.
02-28-2001 01:30 AM
Can you post an answer to my question regarding the "30 second"
scenario that I asked about a week or so ago?
If I didn't get to everything, please expand your question.
02-28-2001 06:17 AM
In order to assist in where I am in the questions, I will post
the page and person I left off with. It would also help if you
could do the same when asking when I will get to yours. Since my
time is growing short, I will be unable to answer questions that
have already been asked in some form or another and I will make
a note when I come across one.
Unfortunately, it has also come to
my attention the proposed email system for sending out the
pictures is not working out. Apparently, people on the receiving
end of the requesting email are starting to have problems with
their computers. They suspect it's coming from the "asking"
email. Before I leave, I do plan to send out a few more pages of
the manual and a video of my departure. I'm sure a method of
will be developed to do that.
02-28-2001 10:21 AM
Actually, (name of forum member) is quite quick to catch many
possible discrepancies in what I've said over quite a few sites
in the last few months.
For example:
What type of money system do you have on your worldline?
Its not very different than it is now. Yes, we have money and
credit cards. However, like everything else, the monetary system
is decentralized. Banking is based mostly around the community
structure. There are no multinational banking or computerized
economic systems. There are also no income taxes.
Is there an IRS and a need to keep a lot of receipts and
paperwork?
Yes, we pay taxes. I had considered going into more detail about
the tax system but I didn't have a great deal of time.
Currently, I am watching my father go over all his taxes and he
doesn't look like he's having a very good time. My comment
referred to the collective misery I see around me during this
time of year.
02-28-2001 11:45 AM
I do enjoy the questions and I appreciate the interest.
I suppose there is a difference between a thought experiment and
the real world. It appears we have our virtual laboratories
confused and I'm not sure I understood all the rules to your
experiment and then it occurred to me that in your position,
this is all just a thought experiment anyway. I will try to be
more literal in my explanation.
I'm not positive but I don't see anything that indicates the
time traveler would remain in the same spot once he arrives. 30
seconds is almost long enough to get coffee in your thought
experiment. If that were true, and they all kept moving, than
the experiment could go on for quite a while until the planet
filled with time travelers. You also stated, "it would appear"
as a time loop. If it only appears that way, than the natural
divergence may stop the experiment when three or four time
travelers arrive and the others end up on different worldlines.
The problem is, what happens to the duplicates as they
simultaneously arrive at virtually the exact same location.
Again, you use the world virtually, which to me means not
exactly the same spot. Under the laws of physics, I don't
personally know what happens if it were on exactly the same spot
but I do know it's possible. Under the operational limits of the
distortion unit, as soon as the VGL sensors pick up an
unexpected mass in the target worldline, it would shut down and
drop off in a worldline where your experiment is not occurring.
Given that their masses will occupy the same space, what
prevents a naked singularity from forming?
I see, now they are in the same space. I suppose that's a
possibility. If so, than the as soon as the experiment started,
a singularity would form under the infinite mass and swallow the
planet. Perhaps they tried this on Cygnus?
It's a nice creative answer, but it didn't address the question.
The question was is it a loop; will it decay and how long will
it take to decay?
Well, I think it's a nice creative question too. Under your
example, the "loop" would terminate as soon as the singularity
forms and would be constantly fed by all the arriving time
travelers.
02-28-2001 12:28 PM
After taking a quick shower and listening to the quiet hum of my
archiving hard drives, I decided that (forum member name) and I
may have made bad second impressions on each other. I find it
ironic because it's people like (same name) that will actually
solve those physical issues and make it possible for people like
me to go back in time and argue with them. So I hope there are
no hard feelings.
It also reminds me of a short story between a bicycle maker in
the 1900s and a man who could fly faster than sound.
BICYCLE MAKER: Well Mr. Mach, if
your plane can go faster than the speed of sound, how did
you solve the compressibility problem that would tear your
flimsy craft to pieces?
MR. MACH: First off, the aircraft are much more stable and
made of metal instead of wood and fabric. Second, it is
possible to pass the sound barrier by designing the wings
and body to move the shock wave down the plane as you
surpass the speed of sound.
BICYCLE MAKER: Really? Planes made of metal? Well, if your
plane can fly faster than sound then why don't you just fly
to the moon?
MR. MACH: It doesn't work that way. You need air to make the
engine function.
BICYCLE MAKER: I see. Your plane can go faster than sound
but needs air to function. That's convenient and it all
sounds like a penny-book fantasy to me.
MR. MACH: Perhaps, perhaps not.