What inspired you to study the microbial communities of ocean 
				plastic garbage patches?
				
				I did my Ph.D. working on the dispersion of larvae from sea 
				urchins. 
				 
				
				I changed to work in 
				bacterial diversity on aggregates, and in one of my projects, I 
				worked on fibers from waste treatment plants. In 2014, I 
				coordinated an expedition working on plastic. 
				 
				
				When Romain [Troublé] 
				proposed to me this leg of the Tara Pacific expedition, I said, 
				"Yes, no problem!"
				 
				 
				
				
				
				
				On the Tara, how do you collect samples from the Great Pacific 
				Garbage Patch, and how are these samples analyzed once they 
				arrive back on land?
				
				For this experiment, we collect plastics with a Manta net [a 
				fine-mesh collection device used while the boat is in motion].
				
				 
				
				We can assess the 
				size class larger than 300 microns. We track at 3 knots because 
				we need very calm conditions.
				
				In the Great Pacific Garbage Patch, we deployed several Mantas. 
				One is for genomic analysis, one is for assessing the spatial 
				distribution of the fragments, and another is to identify all 
				kinds of biodiversity associated with plastic. 
				 
				
				We deployed up to 
				five Manta nets a day, so we spent all day doing that and 
				sorting plastics. For one throw of the Manta net, a 30-minute 
				throw, we'd find 500 fragments of plastics.
				
				We place the plastics in tubes for genomic sequencing. We 
				sequence 16S and 18S ribosomal RNA [which is essential for 
				protein synthesis] for specific bacteria. We also do metagenomic 
				analysis with 
				
				Genoscope [the French National Sequencing Center]. 
				It gives us the whole picture - the free communities of microbes 
				and the communities associated with plastic aggregates. 
				
				 
				
				Identifying species 
				associated with plastics will make it possible to determine 
				zones of bacterial colonization and to better understand the 
				dispersion of alien, toxic and pathogenic species.
				
				The 
				
				majority of plastic that we found in the Mediterranean is 
				polyethylene and polypropylene, two major components of 
				packaging. 
				 
				
				We are also going to 
				scan samples from the Great Pacific Garbage Patchto establish a 
				plastic-to-plankton ratio, like an indicator of the state of the 
				environment. If there is more plastic than plankton, fish will 
				be starved because they eat the plastic instead of the plankton. 
				In this area, the ratio is very, very high. 
				 
				
				Previous studies 
				found there is about one kilogram of plankton for each six 
				kilograms of plastic.
				
				Contrary to popular descriptions of the Great Pacific Garbage 
				Patch as a "continent" of discarded plastic, it is more like a 
				swirling "soup" of trillions of trapped plastic fragments.
				
				 
				
				Researchers on the 
				Tara deploy a Manta net to collect samples of this detritus 
				(below-left). The collected plastic 
				material (below-right) ranges in size from a few millimeters down to 
				microns.
 
				 
				
				
				
				
 
 
			
				© 
				Samuel Bollendorff
				
				
				Tara Expeditions Foundation
				 
				
				
				When people 
				think about the Great Pacific Garbage Patch, they often imagine 
				something visible, like an island. What is it really like to be 
				in the middle of the patch?
				
				The Great Pacific Garbage Patch is not an island you can clean 
				up with waste boats. It's just a lot of microplastics spread 
				over a very large area, and a very small concentration of 
				plankton. 
				 
				
				Publications about 
				the Great Garbage Patch have outlined the presence of 
				macroplastics [plastic fragments typically larger than five 
				millimeters], but we found mainly microplastics. 
				 
				
				We counted some large 
				objects, but not many in relation to the extent of the garbage 
				patch.
				
				When the sample arrives on the boat, we have a lot of 
				microplastics - I cannot give one term [to describe it]. We use 
				"soup," but, you know, it's a poor soup, because there's a lot 
				of plastic and few plankton.
				 
				 
				
				
				How is the 
				microbial community in ocean garbage patches different from what 
				is found elsewhere in the ocean?
				
				Microbes attached to plastics are a 
				
				distinct biological 
				community with different physical [and] chemical characteristics 
				from free-living microbes. 
				 
				
				Microbes really take 
				advantage of being on the surface of plastics - they are very 
				opportunistic. When they have no available substrate, they stay 
				in a dormant state for a long time. 
				 
				
				But when they find a 
				substrate like plastic, they develop a lot. In the Mediterranean 
				Sea, we found a lot of benthic cyanobacteria on plastics. These 
				cyanobacteria are filamentous and often live in the deep. They 
				have the capability to adapt to very different environments.
				
				 
				
				They can adapt for 
				different concentrations of nutrients because they are able to 
				fix nitrogen.
				
				In the Mediterranean, we also found that the keystone species of 
				bacteria on the plastic specialized in degrading hydrocarbons. 
				Plastic is a polymer, composed of a chain of monomers. 
				
				 
				
				What these bacteria 
				do is use the carbon in the monomers [for energy] - this is the 
				way that they reproduce.
				
				In general, the functions of microbial communities [on plastic] 
				will be nitrogen fixation, gene transfer and degrading plastic. 
				In our results, the bacteria attached to plastic are the ones 
				that are able to degrade hydrocarbons.
				
				Pathogenic organisms are also associated with plastic, so we 
				will evaluate the potential of harmful microbial taxa. I worked 
				on a project where my colleagues found the Vibrio gene in the 
				North Atlantic where was associated with microplastics in the 
				North Atlantic. 
				 
				
				They found Vibrio all 
				the time, a group of bacteria including those that cause 
				cholera. Most marine bacteria are harmless, but several taxa can 
				cause disease in humans and animals.
				
				Two researchers aboard the Tara, Melanie Billaud and 
				Nils Haentjens, inspect a sample collected with the Manta 
				net. 
				 
				
				Plastic 
				concentrations in the Great Pacific Garbage Patch are 10 times 
				those in the Mediterranean, one on the world's dirtiest seas.
 
				 
				
				
				
				
				
				© Samuel Bollendorff 
				
				
				Tara Expeditions Foundation
				 
				 
				
				
				
				
				How do you think results from your Great Pacific Garbage Patch 
				project will compare with those from your Mediterranean project?
				
				We will compare the Mediterranean system with the Pacific system 
				to see if we have the same kind of microbial attachment [to 
				plastic]. 
				 
				
				Is it a common 
				mechanism, or is it a specific mechanism for the Mediterranean? 
				In the Mediterranean, the diversity on plastics is higher than 
				the diversity of free-living bacteria. This is very interesting.
				
				 
				
				How can bacteria use 
				these plastics? Why is the diversity higher? Maybe because 
				bacteria are specialized for some kind of substrates and can use 
				plastics as a substrate. 
				 
				
				Another colleague, a 
				student, did an experiment that shows us that biofilms start on 
				degraded plastic. It's very difficult to start with new plastic.
				
				 
				
				Microbes need this 
				kind of degraded surface to colonize.
 
				 
				
				
				How do 
				microbes in ocean garbage patches interact with the rest of the 
				ocean food chain? Could these changes eventually affect humans?
				
				The plastisphere system harbors toxic microbial species. 
				
				 
				
				There is a lot of 
				this plastic in oysters or mussels - if you eat oysters 
				directly, you also eat the stomach. If there are pathogenic 
				[microbes], the transfer is direct when you eat filter feeders.
				
				Another threat is that filter feeders [fish that eat by 
				straining small organisms like krill from seawater] confuse the 
				thin plastic with plankton - if you are a fish, you cannot 
				separate them. 
				 
				
				With the ingestion of 
				plastic, fish will be starved, and the food chain will be 
				impacted. Everything is connected.
				 
				 
				
				
				Earlier 
				this year, German researchers reported that bacteria living on 
				microplastics have 
				
				unusually high gene exchange rates, giving 
				rise to antibiotic resistance. How might this affect the rest of 
				the ecosystem?
				
				They inoculated the plastic - they realized a kind of mutation 
				to adapt microbes to a new environment.
				 
				
				It's usually a very 
				long adaptation process, but they show that this can happen very 
				rapidly on plastic, because there are a lot of different groups 
				of bacteria.
				
				This could be harmful for human health. If you are in 
				Bangladesh, for example, and these plastics arrive on the river, 
				you could have an epidemic situation, because the bacteria adapt 
				themselves very fast.
				
				"There are no magic devices that can clean the oceans," 
				according to Pedrotti, even if studies of the microbes that grow 
				on the seaborne plastics can help with finding ways to degrade 
				them. 
				 
				
				Cleaning coastal 
				areas, however, may be an effective first step in limiting the 
				pollution.
 
				 
				
				
				
				
				
				Maria-Luiza Pedrotti
				
				
				Villefranche Oceanographic Laboratory 
				
				© 
				Samuel Bollendorff
 
				 
				 
				
				
				Is it possible to clean up ocean garbage patches completely?
				
				It's not feasible, in my opinion, when you see the extent of the 
				phenomenon. 
				 
				
				We cannot collect 
				small plastic, like 
				
				microplastic, and we cannot be efficient in 
				large areas. Even biodegradable plastic is not good for the 
				ocean. 
				 
				
				Yes, we could ban 
				plastic bags and replace them with biodegradables, but it 
				wouldn't work. If you throw biodegradable plastic into the sea, 
				it may not biodegrade under those conditions, and it can still 
				affect the ocean.
				
				There are no magic devices that can clean the oceans. 
				
				 
				
				But cleaning coastal 
				areas, locally, is a very good solution because it helps to 
				remove the plastics before they enter the greater ocean 
				ecosystem.
				 
				 
				
				
				
				
				Even so, some scientists - including your team - think garbage 
				patch microbes can teach us something valuable about how to 
				break down waste.
				
				The idea is that maybe it will be a solution to stop pollution.
				
				 
				
				Bacteria and fungi 
				have the ability to efficiently degrade polyethylene, 
				polypropylene and other polymers. What bacteria do is release 
				enzymes to cut polymers into monomers.
				 
				 
				
				
				How do you 
				plan to explore the workings of the plastisphere over the next 
				few years?
				
				Plastics can facilitate microbial colonization and be vectors of 
				potential invaders, harmful algae and pathogens in the sea.
				
				 
				
				Understanding that is 
				the first step, but the second is to try to cultivate the 
				organisms that are attached to the plastic.
				
				We need more research. Studies on plastic-associated microbial 
				communities are lacking; we don't understand exactly how these 
				microbes are affecting ocean ecology globally. 
				 
				
				To be credible, we 
				have to be humble.