Interview with Dr. Masaru Emoto
In May of 2002, a reporter from
Masaru Emoto, the president of the
IHM Institute and the author of “Messages from Water.”
The son of Dr. Emoto was present and served as the
R: Zhengjian Reporter
E: Dr. Masaru Emoto
R: Dr. Emoto, I read your book “The
Messages From Water.” I feel it is very
unique. You brought up several very meaningful topics. At the end of the
book, you wrote,
“If water did not originally exist on earth but came from
the outer space, then it means that our existence also began in outer
Could you please elaborate on what you meant?
E: Five years ago, an asteroid that carried ice came down to earth.
Researchers from the University of Hawaii measured it and found that it
weighed 100 tons. Each year tens of millions of such large pieces of ice
fall to earth from outer space. If we calculate the amount of water that
they carry, people will see that it is very possible that the water on earth
originally came from outer space.
Researchers from the University of Hawaii
said that maybe at the beginning there was no water on earth and the water
came to earth from outer space. Many scientists and researchers don’t agree
with this theory, but I believe that it is correct.
R: Since water came from outer space, then
life also came from the outer
space. Is this what you think?
E: Yes, of course.
R: At the end of the book, you said, “Where is the final destination of this
chaotic world? How did human beings come to existence? What is their
history? What will the future look like?”
E: I think that human beings are the water itself. The human body is the
clothing that we wear on this planet and, on other planets, the clothes
might look completely different. Water is scattered over the entire
universe. I believe that the earth is like the kidney of the universe. A lot
of water from the universe came to this planet. It must be purified and go
back to other planets to purify those planets. Those planets need purified
Water is just ourselves. We human beings must purify ourselves. The reason
that we came here from the universe is to be purified. Then we must go back
to the universe. Other planets are waiting for us. They are saying, “Come
back! Come back! Hurry up and come back! Hurry up!”
But we still remain on
this earth and keep being reincarnated. We can’t continue being incarnated
like this. We must graduate and go back. We the human beings are just like
water. We need to go back to other planets.
R: But the reality is that this world has become dirtier and dirtier.
E: If we continue to live like this, the planet Earth might
encounter catastrophes and might come to an end. If we don’t change our
ways, we might have a huge flood, like what happened in Noah’s Ark.
R: Then how can we avoid such catastrophes from taking place?
E: It is very easy. Love and gratitude, toward each person, every single
thing. If 10% of people can do that, then there won’t be a catastrophe.
R: Why 10%?
E: Experiments have shown that if
10% of a bacteria colony contains good
bacteria, 10% of it is bad, and 80% of it is neutral, the whole colony is
good, and the good bacteria will triumph.
The son of Dr. Emoto added,
“Dr. Emoto did experiments with water by putting
two notes on a bottle of water.
One says, “Thank you!” Another says, “You
are dumb!” The water formed beautiful crystals, which proves that “Thank
you” triumphed over “You are dumb.” That is why Dr. Emoto is trying hard to
find 10% of people on earth who have righteous thoughts.
There will be peace
on earth as long as there are 10% of such people.”
E: The Chinese people are very important. There are so many of them. I don’t
understand why the Chinese government changed the Chinese characters. (He
saw the Chinese newspapers that the Zhengjian reporter held in her hand).
This is OK. These are traditional Chinese characters.
R: Why do you think there is a difference between simplified Chinese
characters and traditional Chinese characters?
E: Based on the way that water crystallized, the Chinese character is very
good. I use traditional characters to do my experiments. The crystals formed
are very beautiful.
R: Did you compare traditional Chinese characters and
characters in your experiments?
E: Not yet. I want to give it a try. A written language is a life, a life
that is alive. It is the most important characteristic of humankind. I am
Japanese, and I really like Japanese characters. If someone forces me not to
use Japanese characters, I won’t be able to live. I really don’t understand
the Chinese government.
R: After performing your water experiments, in what ways do you think about
E: Where we came from, why we are here, and where we are going are important
mysteries, mysteries that should be unveiled. Experiments through
enable us to unveil these mysteries.
Some Thoughts on the Water Crystal Experiments
Accompanying photographs are courtesy of
Dr. Masuru Emoto’s
Messages from Water and
Messages from Water
The water crystal experiments carried out by
Masaru Emoto in Japan were published in newspapers and have produced enthusiastic
response among readers. We subsequently interviewed several people in
scientific circles and invited them to talk about the significance of the
Below is an interview with physicist
Dr. Cheng Luojia.
Zhengjian Reporter: In your opinion, what is the most unique thing about the
water crystal experiments carried out by Mr. Emoto?
Dr. Cheng Luojia:
The experiment is pretty simple. It demonstrates the
differing ways of water crystallization in different situations. It is rare
to have an experiment that is this concise, intuitive, and easy to
understand, and that in itself is a huge accomplishment. This experiment
deals with an extremely immense and important subject, namely how people’s
minds influence matter.
Not too many experiments have been done in this
area. The relationship between matter and mind is a topic that has been
debated for a long time. Being able to explore the relationship between the
two using such a simple experiment is very meaningful.
In addition, the original photographs of the experiments are enlarged 200 to
500 times. The observations have actually reached microscopic levels, that
is, it is observing microscopic planes instead of points. This is rarely
seen in scientific circles. I believe observation of the whole microscopic
plane will bring forth a brand new world to us.
I think, both in terms of its subject and its research methodology, this
experiment is a new beginning in science.
Reporter: The results of the water crystal experiment have been published in
detail in the two-volume book Messages from Water. Which parts have
impressed you most?
Dr. Cheng: The first picture in the book is an ice image, water in the
frozen stage, about to melt into water, but has not yet become water. It
represents a complete drawing of the Chinese character for water!
ancient ancestors of the Chinese people perhaps already had the capability
to see to the microscopic level. This (above) picture gives me a new understanding
of Chinese pictographic writing.
Picture on the left: Taken after the container of water had been exposed to
the written words “Love” and “thank you.”
Picture on the right: Taken after the container of water had been exposed to
the written words “You are really nauseating and disgusting. I’ll kill you!”
When the words “Love” and “thank you” are spoken to the water sample, the
water crystals form a beautiful pattern.
When the water sample was exposed
to harsh, destructive words, the crystal formed is in chaos and without
order. The contrasting results are amazing and are a direct reflection of
the influence of people’s mind on matter. We used to think that people’s
mind intent and spirit were metaphysical. They belong to a different
category from matter, but this experiment has revealed an in-depth
relationship between matter and mind.
Furthermore, we are also able to see that good intent positively influences
matter, and bad thought patterns make matter ugly. When you speak
“beautiful” to the water, its crystal becomes beautiful.
When you speak
“dirty” to it, its crystal really looks extremely dirty. Looking at these
pictures, a mother would probably understand that more encouragement and
praise would make children become more intelligent and beautiful.
harmonious family atmosphere would also contribute to healthy looking plants
in the house and help keep them beautiful. The enlightenment the public
might gain from this experiment should not be underestimated.
This experiment has also tested how language, image and sound
affect water. What is your view about the results?
“Wisdom” in Japanese “Wisdom” in English “Wisdom” in German
“Cosmos” in Japanese “Cosmos” in English “Cosmos” in Greek
“Love, thanks” in Japanese “Love, thanks” in English “Love, thanks” in
Dr. Cheng: It is very interesting. Exposed to the word “Wisdom,” written in
Japanese, English and German, the water formed a similarly shaped crystal.
Exposed to the word “Cosmos,” written in Japanese, English and Greek, the
water did the same, too, and likewise to “Love” and “Thanks.”
that it is not the individual word, the language in which it spoken or the
sound vibrations that are the reason for the formation, but the inherent
thought processes behind the language or meaning represented by the language
that influences the water.
The same meaning or the same information will
produce the same effect, even though it is expressed in different languages.
In this case of water, if we advance our thought a step further, that every
word/thought produces a different shape, what conclusion can we draw? We can
arrive at only one logical conclusion - the meaning of a word produces a
shape! In other words, thoughts have shapes!
Doesn’t that say mind is
Water crystal after “reading” a Lotus picture
Water is also very sensitive to images.
After “reading” a lotus picture, a
water crystal will grow unceasingly, as a lotus grows unceasingly. After
“reading” a picture of a fir tree, the water will periodically change its
color in the process of crystallization, as a tree undergoes changes, like
its respiration process. More interesting yet is when water “reads”
picture of the sun or the word “sun,” the two crystals formed are identical
This indicates that an image also possesses a kind of
consciousness, a kind of information. The same as a word, it represents a
kind of thought, but is expressed in a different way. Every kind of shape
represents a kind of spirit. An ancient adage tells us that similarity of
shape is similarity of spirit.
This is one reason why a painting can express
the artist’s thought and emotion and evoke those in the viewer.
Beethoven’s music “Pastoral”
The capability of water of listening to music is more impressive.
water “listens” to a musical composition by
Bach, the shape of a water
crystal looks neatly organized and clear. The shape of a water crystal looks
clear and jubilant after the water “listens” to Beethoven’s “Pastoral”
symphony. After “listening” to a nursery rhyme, water will become clear and
pure. After listening to a musical composition entitled “Forest in the dim
light of night,” the water crystal appears to be shrouded in the dim light
The dimness reflected in the crystal is not due to lack of light,
but sound. Those results have shown that the sound and the shape of an
object are interconnected.
This really opens up a totally new world. The interconnecting relationship between the sound and the
shape is an
important new concept.
For example, a good musical instrument must have a
good shape. In ancient times, when casting a bell, an experienced worker
would be able to know if the sound of bell was good or not with just a
glance at the shape of the bell when it was taken out of the furnace mold.
The influence of sound on shape manifested in this experiment is very vivid.
Reporter: Most people are initially surprised when they see those marvelous
and beautiful water crystals. They did not expect water to have so many
Dr. Cheng: Actually, in Chinese tradition, people had a meticulous
understanding of water. For example, in creating medicine one must chose
water carefully. To make Aijiao (a Chinese traditional medicine), water from
a well called Ai in a village called Ai in
Shandong Province must be used.
Water for boiling tea was also carefully chosen. Some tea must be made with specific spring water, some must be made with dew from lotus leaves, other
tea was prepared with snow from plum blossoms; another tea was yet prepared
with the water from a certain segment of a certain river.
All of these do
not only prove that people in ancient China were refined and cultured; they
also represented in-depth knowledge of the nature of water.
I once heard a
In the countryside of China, women know a lot of simple but effective
Among them, water is one of the most commonly used. For
instance, when a child eats something not too well cooked, he or she will
get a stomachache. Sometime the pain is so violent that the child rolls
about on the ground.
His mother will then heat a bowl of water to the point
where it is just about to boil but not quite boiling yet. When the child is
fed the water, the pain will be gone immediately, an instantaneous effect.
Water usage among the people for different uses is numerous.
understanding of water is part of Chinese tradition from ancient times.
Reporter: In the postscript of the book
The Message from Water, the author
raised several questions - where it comes from, where it goes, what is the
purpose of existence, and others. How do you respond?
Instead of only focusing at the subject at hand, Dr. Emoto is
able to jump out of the box and take on profound questions. It is an
indication of his open-mindedness. Water is an essential factor in the
creation of everything. To understand water also helps us to
matter, spirit and life.
Masaru Emoto, “Messages from Water,” by Hado (Kyioku Sha) Publishing, Japan,
Masuru Emoto, More Messages from Water, an interview with Dr. Emoto,
The Spirit of Ma’at, Volume 1, November 2000;
Messages from Water, The Messenger, Report by Joann Turner, February 2002,
Physicist Comments on Finding that Water Crystal
Formation Reflects Thoughts
Accompanying photographs are courtesy of
Dr. Masuru Emoto’s
Messages from Water and
Messages from Water
The water crystal experiments carried out by
in Japan have produced enthusiastic responses among readers. We
subsequently interviewed several people in scientific circles and invited
them to talk about the significance of the experiments. Below is an
interview with physicist Dr. Li Chunbing.
We welcome everyone to join us to
explore this fascinating experiment.
Zhengjian Reporter: What do you think is the most important message from the
experiment of “the message from water”?
Dr. Li: The most spectacular part is that a
water crystal can reflect
“thought” with its formation. That is, a phrase, an image, or a piece of
music can lead to particular shapes of water crystal. In other words, water
responds to words, images, and sound with different formations of water
From the photographs of different formations of water crystal we
can easily see that mind and matter are one thing. It appears that there is
a mind inside a matter.
For example, a word carries a thought, which
manifest itself in the formation of water crystal in the water crystal
experiments. This proves that a matter has life and thought of its own, and
that a thought has its tangible representation.
Matter and mind are one body
with two kinds of manifestations of the same substance.
Left: Water Crystal Exposed to Word, “Angel”
Right: Water Crystal Exposed to Word, “Devil”
Left: Water Crystal Exposed to the Song Entitled, “Silent Night”
Right: Water Crystal Exposed to Heavy Metal Music
In each experiment, the water has been exposed to different kinds of
messages. Although each water crystal still shares the same chemical
structure, they are actually different from one another in the thought and
spirit they carry.
These experiments have proven that water is a form of
life, and this also applies to every word, every shape of object, and every
single sound, for everything has a mind. Perhaps someday we will even be
able to say hello to them once we have acquired higher abilities of
Reporter: A lot of photos of water crystals from the experiments have been
published. Which photograph do you like best?
Left: A Picture of Chamomile
Right: Water Crystal Exposed to a Picture of Chamomile
Left: A Picture of Fennel
Right: Water Crystal Exposed to a Picture of Fennel
Dr. Li: The flower photos are inspiring. You can see that after being
exposed to the pictures of chamomile and fennel, the formations of water
crystals completely resemble the respective shapes of the two flowers. That
a water crystal simulates the shape of a message it is exposed to is solid
proof that every particle carries the whole image of a matter.
This hologram vision is visible only at a micro-level. We cannot see the
“thought” with our flesh eyes because “thought” exists at a micro-level and
our eyes do not. If we can find a way to see things at a micro-level, we
will be able to see “thought.”
Reporter: This experiment differs from other sophisticated science
experiments in that very few specialists were involved but a world of
attention was drawn to its results. What kind of impact do you think the
experiment results will bring to the public?
Dr. Li: We can see clearly from the experiment on
water crystals that a kind
thought makes things beautiful while an evil thought mutilates things. The
greatest part of a human body and everything else in the world is made of
water. It follows that our kind thoughts will improve the external
environment, as well as ourselves.
If we always keep kind thoughts, we will
purify our own body, and thus become beautiful and healthy. If we always
keep kind thoughts, we will also purify the environment and people around
us. Our kind thoughts can improve everything in this world. It is
mind-blowing to see this philosophy clearly in the water crystal
experiments. The most direct way to purify the world is to keep kind
thoughts. It would have a tremendous impact on the world if the public could
see that point.
Reporter: Dr. Masaru Emoto has already done an experiment where a group of
people sent kind thoughts such as “thank you” and “love” to a bottle of
severely polluted water. The water was purified quickly. In addition,
Dr. Emoto has recently invited the whole world to send kind thoughts to water on
earth at set times on a regular basis. What is your comment on these
Dr. Li: Indeed, Dr. Emoto has conducted many experiments where a group of
people sent kind thoughts to water together.
Left: Tap Water from Tokyo
Right: Tap Water from Tokyo after a Group of People Sent Kind Thoughts to It
At 2 o’clock of February 2, 1997, 500 people from all over Japan, upon the
invitation of Dr. Emoto, sent kind thoughts toward a bottle of tap water in
Tokyo on Dr. Emoto’s office desk. Everyone was asked to think the same
thought, “The water is now purified. Thank you.”
This affectionate message
was sent at the same time from 500 people all over Japan. The photo on the
right was taken right afterwards. No man-made processing was done to this
photograph at all.
Even though the research team had expected this result,
all the members of the team were moved to tears when they saw the
Left: Water from Kobe, Japan after the Earthquake
Right: Water after Exposed to Kind Thoughts
The photograph on the left was taken three days after an
in Kobe, Japan. It was a deformed water crystal from tap water in Kobe.
water seems to express in mutilation the feelings of panic, grief and terror
that the local people experienced during the earthquake. Everyone who has
seen the photograph was shocked to see the feelings expressed by water. Yet
people in Kobe received a wealth of concern and help from their fellow
citizens on Earth afterwards.
Three months after the earthquake, the
research team took another photograph of the same bottle of water (shown on
the right), which then expressed the same beauty as that in the blessings
and concern toward people in Kobe, Japan.
Dr. Emoto often tells a story of a group of people sending kind thoughts
together. When Apollo 13 landed on the moon, the crew experienced some
technical problems that caused damage to their oxygen tanks. They were not
supposed to be able to make it back to earth alive under the circumstances.
However, the entire world watched the expedition and prayed for them.
end, the crew made it back to earth safely. Dr. Emoto believes that it was
the work of sending kind thoughts as a group. Dr. Emoto regards it as a
global activity where the world, regardless of race, belief, and country,
sent benevolent thoughts together simultaneously.
It follows that collective benevolent thoughts are very powerful. If we
combat a calamity with kind thoughts as a group, the calamity will be
dissolved. When it comes to destruction, violence and slaughter that plagues
this world, we are able to stop them if we send benevolent thoughts to
Reporter: Do you see any potential area for further exploration?
Dr. Li: Although I don’t have an insider’s view of the experiments, I think
the mind activities of the research team may influence the results of each
experiment. Since water is found to be sensitive to thought, it must also be
sensitive to the thought of the researchers. I believe that the researchers
would need to keep a clear mind to avoid shaping the results to their
On the other hand, if we keep our mind peaceful, I believe the water that
surrounds us will become very clean. I think the clarity of water will
reflect the clarity of our tranquility. If we sit in meditation in a high
level of tranquility, we should have more impact on water. Here, I would
like to explain quickly that there are different levels of tranquility.
process of eliminating interfering thoughts and attaining a higher level of
tranquility is essentially a process of cultivation. I would bet that the
experimental results would be astonishing if a genuine cultivator sits in
meditation next to a brook.
I would also like to add a comment on the activities where a group of people
send benevolent thoughts together. These activities are short-lived and,
hence, yield temporary results. It is more important that we keep benevolent
thoughts at all times because each of our thoughts influences our body and
everything that surrounds us.
It is only when we continue to eliminate bad
thoughts, discipline ourselves with high moral standards, and learn to lead
peaceful lives will we be able to purify our own bodies and our
environments, as well as to attain and maintain world peace. This is the
true way of life taught by the saint.
A Chinese proverb says, “Water is a mirror of the heart.” From
experiments, we now have a clear understanding that pure water is a product
of a pure mind. A mind that resists kind thoughts has no power to improve
It follows that group activities of sending benevolent thoughts can
improve the environment on a small scale -- temporarily. The overall
environment can be improved only when everyone embraces benevolence and
enhances moral values. Now we have seen how a benevolent thought is capable
of purifying water.
The next subject in our discussion will be how to purify
Snapshots of Mysterious and Beautiful Images
When I casually browsed the book Messages from Water, I
was struck by the marvelous photographs of hexagonal crystals. Some crystals
were clear and some were hazy, some were intricate and some were simple. The
photographs appeared almost three-dimensional, new and different, and very
pleasing to my eyes.
At the first glance, the photographs appeared to be the masterful work of a
great photographer. However, when one looks closely at the captions of the
photographs, one will see that the photographs are results of a scientific
They were the snapshots of water crystallization taken under a
microscope by the author
Masaru Emoto, head of the Hado Institute (IHM
Corporation) in Tokyo, and his research team.
According to what was described by the chief researcher of the experiment,
the following is the procedure used:
While in a laboratory set to –5ºC, an
experimenter takes out a glass container from a refrigerator and quickly
puts it under a microscope which has a camera mounted to it. A drop of water
that has been exposed to a unique mind-intent, or a language, or a form of
music, or a word, or a physical factor is placed in the container, which
becomes frozen and form a small ice hummock.
When the light from the
microscope shines on it, it causes the ice to start to melt. At the top of
the ice hummock, a water crystal is quickly formed which can only survive
for a few seconds. The biggest challenge for the experimenters is to focus
the camera rapidly enough to capture the beautiful image.
As we can see, the approach used is quite straightforward. For a given set
of the test environment, the researchers would conduct the same experiment
on approximately ten to a hundred different water samples and then do
statistical analysis on them.
The photographs of water crystals shown in the
book are the most representative of the results obtained. In the
experiments, the response of water when exposed to different mind-intents,
languages, forms of music, words, physical factors (such as vibrations,
microwaves, electro-magnetic waves, etc.) and many other factors have been
They are diverse and vivid. The results are so
astonishing and wondrous. For example, water samples taken from a lake after
an earthquake had just occurred were not able to produce crystals at all.
However, after some people said a prayer, the water samples were again able
to produce crystals. In another experiment, when the same word, such as
“wisdom,” was written in different languages and then placed on the labels
of different water sample containers, the water crystals produced had the
same shape and structure.
The water taken from containers that had good
words such as “love” and “thank you” placed on them produced marvelously
brilliant crystals, while the water taken from containers with the bad words
such as “hatred” and “demon” on them made extremely horrifying and ugly
Another amazing discovery is that when a piece of ice is just about to melt,
the crystal formed looks the same as the Chinese character for water.
The experiments are enough to make us sigh in wonder and ask ourselves how
little we know about water.
How can water respond to the different
and feelings of humans?
Is it possible that water has sensory functions and
the ability to change according to its environment?
Can water distinguish
good from evil, beauty from ugliness?
If it can, how does it do it?
the real origin of water?
Are there common universal messages that go beyond
words and language?
Life cannot exist without water. If water is able to
sense things, do we need to re-examine our understanding of life all over
How should we use this knowledge to improve the quality of our lives?
Those questions seem to go beyond what the so-called mainstream contemporary
science can answer.
With the current notions of science, it is difficult to
explain how it’s possible that emotions, words, prayers and so on can affect
the crystallization of water.
There seems to be ways to improve the experiment. The process of
crystallization is on a microscopic level and disappears in the twinkling of
eye. If the whole crystallization process is shot with a video camera
instead of the several still photographs taken from a camera, the results
would be more convincing. Furthermore, scientists might start to ask
One question is what kind of transformations are taking
place on a physical and chemical level by those emotions,
mind-intents and so on that can affect water crystallization. Perhaps doing
more research in these areas will allow us to better understand the water
crystal experiments. In turn, it might breakthrough some of the outdated and
rigid mindsets scientists have currently.
However, Dr. Masaru Emoto has no interest in trying to gain more acceptance
from the community of mainstream science since what he has realized from his
experiments has broadened his vision.
He wrote on the cover page of the book
Messages from Water:
“Hado (wave) creates words
Words are the vibrations of nature
Therefore beautiful words create beautiful nature
Ugly words create ugly nature
This is the root of the universe”
It is obvious that he has raised the significance of his series of
experiments to a very high level.
When I met Dr. Masaru Emoto in Boston last
year, he clearly stated that he had no intention of getting into a debate
with the community of mainstream science. Instead, he wants to disseminate
the knowledge to people in society so that the public and the younger
generations will realize that kind thoughts such as love and thanks can make
changes to water and the environment around us.
Dr. Masaru Emoto is invited to many countries to present his research
discoveries and philosophical thoughts. He acts as a messenger using his
unique perspective to bring forth love in human beings.
He has initiated a global activity called “Expressing Our Love and Thanks to Water.” He hopes
to change the quality of water and purify the Earth’s water resources
through people’s kind intentions. After referring to the mysterious
calendar and prophecy, he has declared July 25th 2003 as the global
commemoration day for this activity.
In fact when people can treat water, the source of life, with
thanks, is it only the water that people will improve? The significance of
the water crystal experiments will transcend the imagination of everyone.