AJ: He is back with us. He is former Bob Dole's chief of staff, very
successful counselor, lawyer. He represents hundreds of the victims
families of 9/11. He is suing Bush for involvement in 9/11. Now a
major Zogby poll out 末 half of New Yorkers think the government was
involved in 9/11. And joining us for the next 35 minutes, into the
next hour, is Stanley Hilton. Stanley, it's great to have you on
SH: Glad to be on.
AJ: We'll have to recap this when we start the next hour, but just
in a nutshell, you have a lawsuit going, you've deposed a lot of
military officers. You know the truth of 9/11. Just in a nutshell,
what is your case alleging?
SH: Our case is alleging that Bush and his puppets Rice and Cheney
and Mueller and Rumsfeld and so forth, Tenet, were all involved not
only in aiding and abetting and allowing 9/11 to happen but in
actually ordering it to happen. Bush personally ordered it to
happen. We have some very incriminating documents as well as
eye-witnesses, that Bush personally ordered this event to happen in
order to gain political advantage, to pursue a bogus political
agenda on behalf of the neocons and their deluded thinking in the
I also wanted to point out that, just quickly, I went
to school with some of these neocons. At the University of Chicago,
in the late 60s with Wolfowitz and Feith and several of the others
and so I know these people personally. And we used to talk about
this stuff all of the time. And I did my senior thesis on this very
subject 末 how to turn the U.S. into a presidential dictatorship by
manufacturing a bogus Pearl Harbor event. So, technically this has
been in the planning at least 35 years.
AJ: That's right. They were all Straussian followers of a Nazi-like
professor. And now they are setting it up here in America. Stanley,
I know you deposed a lot of people and you've got your $7 million
dollar lawsuit with hundreds of the victim's families involved...
SH: 7 billion, 7 billion.
AJ: Yeah, 7 billion. Can you go over some of the new and
incriminating evidence you've got of them ordering the attack?
SH: Yes, let me just say that this is a taxpayers' class action
lawsuit as well as a suit on behalf of the families and the basic
three arguments are they violated the Constitution by ordering this
event. And secondly that they [garbled sound] fraudulent Federal
Claims Act, Title 31 of the U.S. Code in which Bush presented false
and fraudulent evidence to Congress to get the Iraq war
authorization. And, of course, he related it to 9/11 and claimed
that Saddam was involved with that, and all these lies.
AJ: Tell you what, stay there. Stanley, we've got to break. Let's
come back and get into the evidence.
AJ: Alright my friends, second hour, September 10th, 2004, the
anniversary of the globalist attack coming up tomorrow. It's an
amazing individual we have on the line. Bob Dole's former chief of
staff, political scientist, a lawyer, he went to school with
Rumsfeld and others, he wrote his thesis about how to turn America
into a dictatorship using a fake Pearl Harbor attack. He's suing the
U.S. government for carrying out 9/11. He has hundreds of the
victims' families signing onto it 末 it's a $7 billion lawsuit.
he is Stanley Hilton. I know that a lot of stations just joined us
in Los Angeles and Rhode Island and Missouri and Florida and all
over. Please sir, recap what you were just stating and then let's
get into the new evidence. And then we'll get into why you are being
harassed by the FBI, as other FBI people are being harassed who have
been blowing the whistle on this. So, this is really getting
serious. Stanley, tell us all about it.
SH: Yeah, we are suing Bush, Condoleeza Rice, Cheney, Rumsfeld,
Mueller, etc, for complicity in personally not only allowing 9/11 to
happen but in ordering it. The hijackers we retained and we had a
witness who is married to one of them. The hijackers were U.S.
undercover agents. They were double agents, paid by the FBI and the
CIA to spy on Arab groups in this country. They were controlled.
Their landlord was an FBI informant in San Diego and other places.
And this was a direct, covert operation ordered, personally ordered
by George W. Bush. Personally ordered. We have incriminating
evidence, documents as well as witnesses, to this effect. It's not
just incompetence 末 in spite of the fact that he is incompetent.
The fact is he personally ordered this, knew about it. He, at one
point, there were rehearsals of this. The reason why he appeared to
be uninterested and nonchalant on September 11th 末 when those
videos showed that Andrew Card whispered in his ear the [garbled
sound] words about this he listened to kids reading the pet goat
story, is that he thought this was another rehearsal.
had dress rehearsed this many times. He had seen simulated videos of
this. In fact, he even made a Freudian slip a few months later at a
California press conference when he said he had, quote, "seen on
television the first plane attack the first tower". And that could
not be possible because there was no video. What it was was the
simulated video that he had gone over. So this was a personally
government ordered thing.
We are suing them under the Constitution for violating American's
rights, as well as under the federal Fraudulent Claims Act, for
presenting a fraudulent claim to Congress to justify the bogus Iraq
boondoggle war, for political gains. And also, under the RICO
statute, under the Racketeering Corrupt Organization Act, for being
a corrupt entity.
And I've been harassed personally by the chief judge of the federal
court who is instructing me personally to drop this suit, threatened
to kick me off the court, after 30 years on the court. I've been
harassed by the FBI. My staff has been harassed and threatened. My
office has been broken into and this is the kind of government we
are dealing with.
AJ: Absolutely and now it has come out 末 five separate drills of
flying hijacked jets into buildings that morning 末 which you told
us about before it even broke in the Associated Press. They were
trying to get out ahead of you. You talked about how you interviewed
military people who were told it was a drill that morning. Then to
get out ahead of that, the news finally reported on it.
learned that all these operations 末 I want to get into that, I want
to talk about the new incriminating evidence of ordering it and how
they had drilled on this, how Cheney was in the bunker controlling
this. That has even come out in the mainstream news but they won't
release the details of that, Stanley. But what type of FBI
harassment are you going through?
SH: First of all, my office was burglarized in San Francisco several
months ago. Files were gone through and some files were seized 末
particularly the ones dealing with the lady that was married to one
of the hijackers. Fortunately, I had spare copies in a hidden place
so nothing disappeared permanently.
But more significantly, FBI
agents have been harassing one of my staff members and threatening
them with vague but frightening threats of indicting them. And it's
just total harassment. They have planted a spy, an undercover agent,
in my organization, as we just recently discovered. In other words,
these are Nazi Germany tactics. This is the kind of government you
have in this country. This is what Bush is all about.
AJ: Stay there Stanley, Bob Dole's former chief of staff. We'll come
back after this quick break. Please stay with us.
AJ: Alright, 8 minutes, 25 seconds into the second hour. Stanley
Hilton, political scientist, lawyer, Bob Dole's former chief of
staff, is suing the government for 7 billion dollars for carrying
out 9/11 and for racketeering. And he joins us now. During the
break, I first really did the big interview with Stanley Hilton
after I saw him attacked on Fox News. And that interview got massive
attention. And then he kind of went underground for a while because
a judge, we're going to talk about that, ordered him to not do any
more interviews. And now he's back doing interviews.
He's had his
office broken into, FBI threats and harassment. Bottom line, he has
deposed military individuals, wives of hijackers, you name it, it
was a government operation. It has even come out in mainstream news,
a piece here, a piece there. They had drills on 9/11, that's why NORAD stood down. Cheney was in control of the whole thing. Stanley
Hilton has now gotten documents about how Bush ordered the whole
operation. And I'll tell you right now, his life is in danger,
And he's got so much courage. He went to school with these neocons at the University of Chicago. He wrote his thesis on how the
government could use terrorist attacks to set up martial law. He is
the man for the time and folks wondered why he disappeared for a
while and just did his lawsuit and wasn't doing interviews, it was
because he was ordered to. Stanley, can you get into that for us?
SH: I did an interview with you, Alex, back in March of 2003, about
a year and a half ago, and literally two weeks after that, I was
contacted by the emissary of the chief judge of the federal court
where I have the lawsuit. And I was warned not to publicize it but
to keep it quiet and threatened with discipline. And it remained
quiet until a couple of months ago and then I got on the air on some
programs and some publicity and July 1st, I was threatened directly
by the chief judge here, threatened with court discipline.
particular judge has been circulating communiqu駸 to the other
federal judges seeking anything negative she can get against me to
try and discipline me after I've been on the court here for 30 years
with no disciplinary problems at all. This is suddenly happening.
And her assistants who are on the committee of the court met with me
on July 1st in Palo Alto, California, and threatened me directly.
They handed me a copy of the lawsuit and said that the judge wants
me to dismiss this. What's this?
She doesn't like the content of it.
This is politically incorrect. This is outside the norm. I said I
represented more than 400 plaintiffs, how am I going to dismiss this
case? And they threatened me directly and they said, "the next time
you'll be disciplined". And also they've threatened me not to go
public, etc. And this is just outrageous.
AJ: It's all color of law. No direct orders, just all in your face.
SH: They sent a letter out, and of course they deny it because of
the political content of the suit but they told me directly on the
phone that it is because of this suit, and this judge is very, very
angry, apparently has been in contact with Ashcroft's Justice
Department. I got a call from Ashcroft's Justice Department a few
months ago about this, demanding that I drop the suit, threatening
sanctions and all kinds of things. I refused to drop it.
AJ: Now let's go back over, you had them break into your office,
harassment. Let's go over that in detail.
SH: My office was broken into about 6 months ago. The file cabinets
末 it was obvious they had been rifled through. Files were stolen.
Files dealing with this particular case and particularly with the
documents I had regarding the fact that the 末 some of these
hijackers, at least some of them were on the payroll of the U.S.
government as undercover FBI, CIA, double agents.
They are spying on
Arab groups in the U.S. And, in effect, all this lead up to the
effect that al Qaeda is a creation of the George Bush
administration, basically. That the entity that he called al Qaeda
is directly linked to George Bush. And all this stuff was stolen.
Fortunately, I had copies.
But this was just part of the harassment.
The FBI has also been harassing some of my assistants and has
planted a spy in our midst. And it is just outrageous that these
Nazi tactics are being used -- and the obstruction of justice, these
people are criminals. And that's what's happening under the
tremendous pressure here to just drop it. Or to shut up now and just
AJ: Now, let's talk about what they want you to drop. Let's talk
about, without giving names, the people you deposed, what really
happened, the picture you've got. You said earlier that Bush ordered
this, they were simulating this which they now admit there were
simulations on that morning. Let's go over what they don't want you
to talk about, Stanley.
SH: We have evidence both documentary as well as witness sworn
statements from undercover former FBI agents, FBI informants, etc,
that other officials in the Pentagon and the military and the Air
Force that deal with the fact that there were many drills, many
rehearsals for 9/11 before it happened. Bush had seen this simulated
on TV many times.
He blurted this out at a press conference in
California a few months after 9/11 where he said he had, quote,
"seen the first plane hit the first building on the video". And
that's not possible because there was no official video of that.
There was one of the second plane, not the first one. He had seen
the first one.
We do have some incriminating documents that Bush personally ordered
9/11 events. It was well planned. A FEMA official has admitted on
tape that he was there the night before 末 September 10th, that
AJ: And now Mayor Giuliani, a few months ago in the 9/11 Commission,
admitted that 末 Tripod II. They had their whole command post
already moved out of Building 7. Now, this is very, very important.
This is a key area of this whole event. You said months before it
came out on the CIA's own website and the Associated Press, you said
"I deposed people".
They said there were drills that morning and
exactly what happened, happening 末 that was the smoke-screen for
the stand-down. And then to get out ahead of it, the CIA comes out
and said "yeah we were running a drill that morning". Now, we've
learned that five, possibly six, were confirmed. Five of these 末
one drill with the exact same thing happening that actually
happened, at the exact same time in the morning. That's why NORAD
stood down with 24 different blips on the screen. You've said this.
You brought this up first. Now, I know you can't get too much into
detail but can you tell us how you learned of this?
SH: I have interviewed individuals in NORAD and the Air Force. I
personally toured NORAD many years ago around the time that I worked
for Dole. I'm very familiar with the operations at Cheyenne Mountain
at Colorado Springs, where NORAD is. Individuals that work in NORAD
as well as the Air Force have stated this, off the record, but the
point is, yes, this was not just five drills but at least 35 drills
over at least two months before September 11th. Everything was
planned, the exact location...
AJ: But five drills that day.
SH: That day, that day, and Bush thought it was a drill. That's the
only explanation for why he appeared nonchalant...
AJ: We also had NORAD officers and civilian air traffic controllers
going, "Is this part of the exercise? Is this a drill?"
AJ: On the tapes and in TV interviews, they thought it was, quote,
SH: That's right. That's exactly what I said long before it became
public. I've known about this since earlier in March of '03, as I
stated before. This was all planned. This was a government ordered
operation. Bush personally signed the order. He personally
authorized the attacks. He is guilty of treason and mass murder.
now, obstruction of justice by attempting to use a federal judge and
FBI agents to inhibit a legitimate civil lawsuit in this country, in
federal court. Even a chief judge in this court tried to harass and
threaten me personally for representing legitimate plaintiffs. And
they got Clinton for allegedly lying under oath about Paula Jones,
and now 末 look what's happening now.
And Ken Starr used to be
across from me in Duke Law School in the early '70s and it's
interesting that he got away with trying to get Clinton impeached,
so we have a far worse criminal sitting in the oval office today 末
somebody guilty of mass murder as well as obstruction of justice.
AJ: Well, I mean look, they say they never heard of a plan to fly
planes into buildings 末 said it all over television 末 Rice, Bush,
Cheney, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft. And then we find out they were running
all these drills that morning. Even if they weren't involved, that
proves they were liars about ever hearing of such a plan.
SH: Well, I'm trying to take their depositions 末 I've been trying
to take their depositions for months. They've been trying to object
to it. They will have to admit they were either lying then or now.
It's clearly perjury either way. They are liars and perjurers,
that's what they are.
These are the people that we have running this
government and, of course, they knew about it. How are they going to
claim now that they didn't know about these drills? Their idea is
that nobody knew anything. It's the old know nothing mentality. And
how anybody considers this believable is beyond me.
AJ: Alright, now people ask how could a huge organization, how could
the AWACS, how could the military let this happen, whereas before,
if your Cessna got off course for five minutes, they would launch
F-16s on you. It's real simple. It's what Stanley Hilton said here a
year and a half ago. It's what came out in the news after that. The
military, good people, were told this was all a drill. And it was
not a drill.
And ABC News admits that Cheney was in control of [?]
out of the White House [?] and that he ordered the military to quote
"do something". Our inside sources from Hilton and others say it was
a stand down and they admit they will not release that under
national security. Stanley?
SH: Well they are going to admit it, they're going to release it in
the court case because if you demand it under subpoena powers then
they must release it. And part of our lawsuit is brought in the name
of the U.S. because under the federal fraudulent [Claims Act], we
accuse the Bush administration of presenting a fraudulent claim to
Congress. And under the statutes of Title 31 of the U.S. code, they
must release this information.
That's why they are trying to
threaten me, harass me, invade my office, steal my files, commit
blatant obstruction of justice and other crimes to try and prevent a
legitimate civil suit from exposing these criminals and their acts
of treason and mass murder.
AJ: I think you need to publicly tell folks that you are not
planning suicide. Would you like to tell folks that?
SH: (laughs) I'm not planning suicide. I've got family and I'm not
planning that but I don't like the threats I'm under 末 but I can
tell you this, it's taking a toll emotionally on me and my staff.
And particularly, when you get a threat from the chief judge of your
AJ: Why have you decided to go public again after a year of being
under the radar?
SH: Because the more and more evidence that I've been adducing over
a year and a half has made it so obvious to me that this was now
without any doubt a government operation and that it amounts to the
biggest act of treason and mass murder in American history.
George Bush makes Benedict Arnold look like a patriot. He makes
Benedict Arnold look like George Washington. I mean that's what we
have 末 a criminal and a traitor sitting in the White House
pretending he's a patriot, wrapping himself in the flag. And it's
pretty disgusting because the other side of the so-called
opposition, the Kerry camp is just saying nothing because they're
afraid to speak.
AJ: Stay right there. We'll be right back.
AJ: Stanley Hilton will be with us for another 15 or 16 minutes.
Then he's got to go into court. Bob Dole's former chief of staff,
political scientist, lawyer, represents 400 plus plaintiffs, most of
them victims of 9/11. When I was in New York last week, everybody I
was talking to, I mean 90 plus percent of them at ground zero, "I
had family, I worked in the buildings, my son's a Navy Seal, he
called the night before and said don't go to work".
You know, all of
this, and then now they never had any idea, and it turns out they
had all these drills, and one drill of hijacked jets flying into the
World Trade Center and Pentagon at 8:30 in the morning. That morning
末 come on people! And Stanley Hilton brought all this out on this
show before it was in the mainstream news.
And I was talking to him
during the break. I mean, the harassment, the moles, the threatening
of his staff, the judge threatening him. Stanley, let's get
specifically into the documents that you have now got that they have
now been robbing you for, that you luckily, thank God had copies.
Specifically, Bush ordering this. Can you get into that for us 末
SH: National Security Council classified documents which [garbled
sound] and it was part of a series of documents that were involved
with the drill documents. This was all planned 末 they had it on
videotape. These planes were controlled by remote control, as I
stated previously a year and a half ago, there's a system called
There is a computer chip in the nose of the plane and it
enables the ground control, the military ground control, to disable
the pilot's control of the plane and to control it and to fly it
directly into those towers. That's what happened. It's also a
technology used on what's called the Global Hawk, which is an
aircraft drone 末 a remote-controlled aircraft. And they were doing
it. We are talking about National Security Council classified
documents that clearly indicated that [garbled sound] had a green
light to order this to go and this is no drill. These drills that
were running were clearly a dress rehearsal and this was a
You wonder why these people are trying to
threaten people and trying to intimidate people who have written
this suit, I guess if you murdered 3000 of your own citizens, in
conjunction with the corrupt Royal family of Saudi Arabia as Bush
did. And if you then waste billions more on a worthless garbage war
in Iraq, I guess you've got something to worry about and you want to
threaten people to prevent it from coming out.
AJ: I mean let's look at this. Not only are there dress rehearsals,
they are smoke screens so the good military stands down and doesn't
know what's happening. But it's now coming out, even in mainstream
news, that yes these drills were going on. Yes, and some of these
drills, quote, passenger-type jets were under remote control 末 this
is decades old technology. In 1958, NORAD was [garbled sound] old
jets and using them for target practice.
Decades ago they flew jumbo
jets from LA to Sydney, Australia. So since that's going on,
everybody knows that. And it's the same MO. Just like the first
World Trade Center [bombing] where they get two retarded men who
followed this blind sheik who had a tiny mosque above a pizza
parlor. And they set them up as the patsies. Then the FBI cooks the
bomb, trains the drivers. This informant goes, "You're not going to
bomb the building?" They go, "Yeah, we're letting it go forward." He
tapes them to protect themselves.
The two retarded gentlemen, thank
God, didn't park it up against the column, as the FBI instructed
them to do, so it didn't bring down the tower 末 because you have to
be right up against the column. That doesn't happen. Yet, it's the
same thing with 9/11. You've got these CIA agents, these Arabs, who
were trained at U.S. military bases, Pensacola Naval Air Station 末
mainstream media, out creating their legends for this background.
They're onboard the aircraft. My military sources say nerve gas
kills everybody on board the plane 末 nerve gas packets. Then they
fly the planes into buildings. From your inside sources, is that
SH: It's one of the things that we are looking into 末 that nerve
gas or something else disabled people. It's possible. I can't say
for sure to be honest with you...
AJ: All you know is they were government agents and they were
onboard and the planes were remote controlled.
SH: Yeah, it was basically a smokescreen. I mean, the events of the
hijackings, how someone snuck in those cutters, it was a plant. It
was like a classic decoy. I've got some military background. And
it's called decoy. It's a decoy operation. You make the people focus
on the decoy to avoid looking at the real criminals. So they are
focusing on these so-called nineteen hijackers and saying, "Oh, it
must have been these Arabs."
When, in fact, the guilty person is at
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue 末 sitting in the oval office. That's the
guilty person. That's the one who authorized it. There is only one
man who could have authorized this operation and that's Bush. And
anyone at NORAD will tell you as I have been told personally at
NORAD in the war control room, there is only one man who has the
power to do this kind of thing and that's Bush. Even though many
believe he's a puppet. And I think in many ways he is.
The fact of
the matter is where was [garbled sound] Cheney, Rumsfeld and these
other traitors. The fact is Bush personally ordered and he's guilty
and liable and he's going to be re-elected apparently because the
media's asleep and [garbled sound] for Bush.
AJ: Well, the media is owned by the same military industrial complex
that carried out the attacks.
SH: Yeah, the media is only interested in maintaining the official
government fantasy that this was a little lone Arab. These Arabs
couldn't even steer that plane down a runway.
AJ: Stay there Stanley, final segment coming up.
AJ: Mr. Hilton, when you talk to these FBI agents, when you talk to
these military men and women, what's their attitude? They've got to
be pretty freaked out to have the big picture and know what actually
happened on 9/11.
SH: Yes, you know it's like clouds just before a thunderstorm in the
sense that they are sort of pregnant with rage. They are just
enraged at the criminal politicians who have perverted and misused
the government to murder its own citizens and pursue these dubious
political ends. And many of them, in increasing numbers, are willing
to talk and will talk under subpoena 末 but only under subpoena
because the official party line of the government is shut up and
don't talk to the trial lawyer.
But more and more, they are very
outraged that part of the government has done this to its own
people, to its own people. I mean you have to go back to Stalin to
see something 末 not even Hitler did this to his own people. You
have to look at Stalin who murdered the Kulaks, the Russians for his
own dubious gains. Also we've got 末 we have a Stalinist mentality
in this country. And, if these people pose as patriots and wrap
themselves in the flag, it's disgusting.
I wanted also to point out that the Japanese television network,
Asahi, is going to be airing a special on primetime tomorrow, on
September 11th. They interviewed me for eight hours a couple of
weeks ago. I'll be on that. I wish 末 of course, the America media
don't care so they are not going to care. But in Japan, people are
very serious in interviewing me and others. And we have a website
now, called deprogram.info, if more people are interested:
But the other thing, I just wanted to say that if anything happens
to me 末 and I don't know why 末 because I'm being threatened here
now. And it seems you can't bring a case in this country anymore
against criminals in power without being threatened. And this is how
they operate. The stakes are pretty high when you've got a world
historical level of treason and fraud by this government against
it's own people. I guess this is what you have to expect.
AJ: Stanley, the globalists, the New World Order crowd, definitely
intend to carry out more terror attacks. I know they would have
carried out more attacks if we wouldn't have done what we've been up
to, if you wouldn't have been out there boldly speaking out and many
And then their electronic Berlin Wall has a bunch of cracks
in it now, thanks to good people like yourself and many others who
are speaking out and telling the truth. But do you think that they
may carry out what they've been hyping 末 a suitcase nuke attack, a
biological release to try to smokescreen all of this? I know it's a
catch-22, you've got to expose the murderers.
We've got to get the
word out on this but some government people that I've talked to say,
"Yeah, but if you do that, they are going to go even more hardcore
and must totally try to take over". But I say regardless, they are
already doing that. So what do you say to that?
SH: Well, yeah, I think they have an agenda. They have contingency
plans. I think they are laying low now because there are an
increasing number of people, like myself, who are openly challenging
them and accusing them of criminal conduct. I think they would have
done it again if we had not spoken up. I think they're planning,
what they would like to do is silence any dissenters.
That's why we
are trying to get the Patriot Act declared unconstitutional in this
AJ: Let's talk about polls. In the beginning a patriot is a scarce
man, hated and feared, but in time when his cause succeeds, the
timid join him, because then it costs nothing to be a patriot. You
are one of those guys who hit the barbwire for us, or figuratively
jumped on the hand grenade for America. But when you've got a Zogby
poll, who is highly respected, half of New Yorkers believe that the
government was involved.
When you have a Canadian poll, 63% on
average believe that the U.S. government was involved. And some
groups, as high as 76% in polls believe the government was involved.
European polls, two-thirds show the same thing. We have German
defense ministers and technology ministers and another member of
their government now, three of them going public, known
conservatives, and progressives.
You have an environment minister,
Michael Meacher, saying that if they didn't do it, they sure as hell
knew what was going on. Look, if anybody who is a thinking person
looks at the evidence, their official story is impossible. Then you
investigate and they are involved in it. Comments to this massive
awakening and what's happening?
SH: Well, I think that's why they want the Patriot Act to suppress
political dissent. They have to, they're anticipating, they are not
dumb individuals. I know these people personally, Wolfowitz. These
are criminal individuals but they are smart and so they anticipated
political dissent. And that's why, like the Nazis, their forebears,
and their blood brothers, the Nazis and the Stalinists, they're all
for political repression.
Every corrupt and criminal government has
done this 末 they suppress their own people: Nazi Germany, Communist
Russia, Mao Tse-Tung, that's why we have the Patriot Act. So it's
hand in hand. They had it planned to go right up to September 11th,
this was all part of the plan. You have to do it. It was part of my
senior thesis. You must follow through the terrorists attacks with a
political repression mechanism in the law.
And that's why they want
Patriot I and Patriot II and their plans are to continue launching
more terrorist attacks to justify even more repression. The goal is
to make this a one party dictatorship in this country, to pursue
their dubious ends with their blood brothers like the Saudi Royal
family. And also, historical blood brothers, such as the Nazi
Germany and the Communist Russia. That's the goal.
AJ: You've got to go in just a minute or two. But I wanted to also
tell you about New York. Sound cannons that are used in Iraq,
they're against us. Men in black ski masks. 41,000 police,
accredited media being arrested randomly.
Children being arrested,
people in wheelchairs, 2000 plus people put in a camp with barbwire
fences inside with no bathrooms. You had to have permission to go to
the porta-potties. Police screaming at you. It had nothing to do
with terrorism. They are openly setting the precedent for martial
SH: Well, that's right, the word terrorist is now being overly broad
and overly defined [garbled sound] and also, you know, it's like the
word communist was used for anything during the McCarthy witch hunt.
And anybody can be called a terrorist by Bush's definition. But the
irony is that the number one terrorist in the world is living at the
White House at the oval office today.
That's the real irony. For
sheer hypocrisy, I think he deserves the world prize and ought to be
in the Ripley book, Believe It or Not, and the Guinness Book of
World Records for sheer brazen chicanery and fraud.
AJ: Let me ask you a question on this because this is the experience
that I had... Watching television, watching the killers, watching
those that are guilty stand up there as our saviors is incredibly
painful. It's like watching Ted Bundy being the judge at his own
I mean it is just painful to know who these people are. To
see them putting America in a shredder. Now we are going to have
forced psychological testing of every American, forced drugging, you
know Pan-American unions, I mean it's just all happening, it's in
our face, Stanley.
SH: Yeah, it's very disturbing and as one who has studied the theory
and concept of dictatorships, I personally interviewed Albert Speer,
who was Hitler's armaments minister. I interviewed him in 1981 in
Munich. And I've studied the psychology and history of
totalitarianism and there is no question that it's very frightening.
And it has, today, with high technology, albeit for the first time
in history, the chance of having a world empire dominated by
corrupt, technologically oriented government 末 an elite government.
And they've got now what people like Napoleon and Hitler didn't
have, which is the technological means to dominate not only their
own country but others 末 the world.
AJ: The answer is to expose them as the terrorists, to show how PNAC
said we need helpful Pearl Harbor events, to show how Northwoods
called for the exact 9/11-style attacks, to show their own plans.
And to force people to face this horror. What are they going to do
in a year or two when 80% of us, not half of us, know the truth?
SH: Well, that's why they want repression and, then again, the
ancient old diversion, launch another terrorist attack to get people
to pitch it away. I mean who knows what they'll do next. I mean
their capacity for ingenious creation of these events is sort of
untraveled. I mean there is no limit.
My guess is they are going to
try another stunt 末 maybe a stunt just before the election to
justify getting Bush reelected. Although it seems like he is running
against a straw man or a ghost right now, anyway. But, my guess is
they'll try some other tactic to get people's attention away from
9/11 if it gets to be too much attention.
What you really want is
for the public to just lose interest because the public 末 and it's
like "Remember the Alamo", you know, people don't forget things like
that. To me it's like the Alamo, "Remember 9/11", that ought to be
the slogan for this outrageous act of treason. That's what it is.
AJ: We are at a crossroads, I don't think they anticipated this much
SH: Yeah, I hope they are truly wrong and as incompetent as they are
corrupt and guilty. That means their incompetence is exceeded only
by their corruption and their guilt. And eventually, if enough
people are going to get outraged enough, these people in the
bureaucracy and in the civil service and our military, and
eventually if we can get people under subpoena, these individuals
will be exposed.
AJ: Stanley, their whole operation hinges on us being naive and not
recognizing evil. This is what they got with Hitler and others.
People couldn't recognize evil so they continued to repeat
succumbing to it. We are recognizing it this time.
We are putting
our lives, our treasure, our future on the line for freedom because
we cannot let these blood-thirsty control freak terrorists capture
us and use us and turn us into the empire and have a draft and use
us as their slaves to invade the planet. And that's their PNAC plan.
Stanley Hilton, I know you've got to get to court. God bless you. I
want to thank you for being here with us today. Can we get you back
on next week?
SH: Sure, just give me a call.
AJ: God bless you my friend. Any closing comments?
SH: My closing comments would be, I think people ought to just think
about the consequence of having someone like Bush in the White House
and the danger for the future that these sort of individuals pose.
This is not just a historical event of the past.
This is part of the
plan and the camera is still rolling. They have an agenda. These
individuals are extremely dangerous. They are armed and dangerous.
They pose a clear and dangerous threat to every freedom-loving
person, not only American, but in the whole world.
AJ: You are absolutely right, Stanley Hilton. They have captured the
government. They have not captured the peoples' minds and they are
counting on us not facing up to it.
SH: And they are counting on the repressive Patriot Act and threats
and chief judges and FBI agents threatening people who are exposing
them. That's what they are counting on.
AJ: But you're not backing down are you, my friend.
SH: No, I'm not.
AJ: Well, we all stand with you, my brother, and God bless you.
SH: All right. Thank you.