AMY GOODMAN: "Blackwater’s Black Ops" - 
		that’s the title of an explosive new article in The Nation magazine that 
		reveals how entities closely linked with the private security firm 
		Blackwater have provided security and intelligence services to a range 
		of powerful corporations over the past several years. The companies 
		include Monsanto, Chevron, the Walt Disney Company, Deutsche Bank, 
		Barclays and Royal Caribbean Cruise Lines. 
		
		
		Blackwater has also provided intelligence and training services to 
		foreign governments, including the Kingdom of Jordan, the Canadian 
		military and the Dutch police. In 2007, former Pakistani Prime Minister 
		Benazir Bhutto worked with Blackwater when she returned to Pakistan to 
		campaign for the general elections. Bhutto was assassinated in December 
		of 2007. 
		
		
		The new revelations come from documents obtained by The Nation. They 
		show that Blackwater’s work for corporations and government agencies was 
		contracted using two companies: Total Intelligence Solutions and the 
		Terrorism Research Center. Both companies are owned by Blackwater’s 
		owner and founder, Erik Prince. 
		
		
		Today also marks the third anniversary of the Nisoor Square massacre, 
		when Blackwater guards gunned down seventeen Iraqi civilians and wounded 
		twenty in a fifteen-minute shooting spree in Baghdad. 
		
		
		For more, we’re joined now from New York by investigative journalist 
		Jeremy Scahill. He’s a Puffin Foundation writing fellow at the Nation 
		Institute. He’s a Democracy Now! correspondent and author of the book 
		Blackwater: The Rise of the World’s Most Powerful Mercenary Army. 
		His new article in online at thenation.com. 
		
		
		Jeremy, welcome to Democracy Now! How did you get a hold of these 
		documents? 
 
		
		JEREMY SCAHILL: Well, Amy, as you know, 
		journalists who do this kind of sensitive work have an obligation to 
		protect their sources, so I’m not going to go into any detail about 
		where these documents came from because of ethical obligations that I 
		have as an investigative journalist to protect my sources. And we’re 
		living in a climate right now where there is really a war against 
		whistleblowers and others, so I prefer to leave it at that. 
 
		 
		
		AMY GOODMAN: Tell us what you found. Tell us 
		how many documents you got and what’s in them. 
 
		
		JEREMY SCAHILL: Well, I was provided with an 
		extensive array of documents that included internal company emails from 
		various entities controlled by Erik Prince, including Total Intelligence 
		Solutions, the Terrorism Research Center, Blackwater itself, documents 
		that not only relate to these corporations that you mentioned - 
		Monsanto, Disney, Chevron and the rest - but also documents that relate 
		to some very powerful people that were veteran CIA operatives that 
		worked on lethal CIA programs before coming to Blackwater. 
		
		
		Among them was Cofer Black, the former head of the CIA’s 
		Counterterrorism Center, the man who after 9/11 told Congress that the 
		gloves had come off, in terms of the tactics that the United States was 
		using in the so-called war on terror. Another figure was Rob Richer, who 
		is the former deputy director of operations at the CIA, and Enrique "Ric" 
		Prado, who is a twenty-four-year CIA veteran and was a veteran 
		paramilitary operative in the CIA’s Special Operations Group, the most 
		lethal of the CIA entities. 
		
		
		And in terms of Ric Prado, what is significant about him is that Prado 
		and Erik Prince were the two figures that set up the CIA assassination 
		program that Blackwater was at the center of. And what the documents 
		that I obtained show is that Ric Prado, beginning in 2007, took the 
		network of foreign operatives that Blackwater had developed for the 
		CIA’s assassination program, operatives that Ric Prado describes in the 
		documents I obtained as "deniable," and therefore a "big plus" to 
		clients that would want to hire them, and attempted to offer this 
		network of deniable assets around the world to the Drug Enforcement 
		Administration. 
		 
		
		And in fact, he emailed an eighteen-year 
		veteran of the DEA who had recently come to work for Erik Prince and 
		asked that executive if the DEA would be interested in such a network. 
		And this eighteen-year DEA agent, who now was working for the Blackwater 
		network of companies, told Prado that there could be interest in that 
		and actually gave him the name of the special agent in charge of the 
		Special Operations Division, which is a very secretive entity within the 
		Department of Justice that’s controlled by the DEA. 
		 
		
		And this executive also suggested that 
		attachés for the DEA in Mexico, in Colombia, in Thailand and elsewhere 
		may also be interested. Now, I haven’t been able to confirm whether or 
		not this network was activated and, if it was, for what purpose, but 
		this is very, very explosive. 
		
		
		The other thing, Amy, that I think is really important on this CIA angle 
		is that at one point, in one of the documents I obtained, we find that 
		Blackwater set up a pricing chart for its services to hire people like 
		Enrique "Ric" Prado or Cofer Black or Rob Richer to work for your 
		private corporation or if you’re a wealthy individual. 
		 
		
		And among the services, you could pay more 
		than $33,000 to have Ric Prado set up a - lead a four-man 
		counter-surveillance team or counterintelligence team in the United 
		States. You could pay $250,000 to have Prado set up a safe-house for 
		you, plus expenses. And these services were also offered in places 
		around the globe, in North Africa, in China, Japan, Russia, throughout 
		Latin America. 
		 
		
		So essentially what you had is CIA-type 
		services literally being offered at a price tag, a specific price tag, 
		being put on them. And perhaps the most interesting among them is that 
		for $5,000 a day you could hire Cofer Black, Rob Richer or Ric Prado to 
		represent your interests in front of national decision makers. 
 
		 
		
		AMY GOODMAN: You also write, Jeremy Scahill, 
		about what happened on this - well, three years ago - this is the third 
		anniversary of the Nisoor Square massacre - what Blackwater did in 
		response, the Blackwater operatives who opened fire and killed seventeen 
		Iraqis. 
 
		
		JEREMY SCAHILL: Well, the Nisoor Square 
		massacre was the single greatest massacre of Iraqi civilians that we 
		know about that was committed by a US force in Iraq. And what happened 
		is that after the Nisoor Square massacre, Blackwater engaged in a 
		rebranding campaign, where they attempted to shake the Blackwater name. 
		They now call themselves Xe Services or the US Training Center. 
 
		
		And what I think was most fascinating, in 
		terms of this rebranding, as far as the documents I obtained, was - is 
		that in January of 2008, Cofer Black, who was the vice chair of 
		Blackwater and the chairman of Total Intelligence Solutions, 
		Blackwater’s CIA, flew to Zürich, Switzerland, and he met with Kevin 
		Wilson, who was the head of global security for Monsanto. 
		 
		
		And I actually talked to Kevin Wilson. I 
		called him on the phone and reached him, and he seemed pretty surprised 
		that I knew about the meeting, but he did confirm, ultimately, that he 
		met with Cofer Black. And he told me that Cofer Black had informed him 
		that Blackwater and Total Intelligence were totally separate entities.
		
		 
		
		But if you see the email that Cofer Black 
		sent after meeting with Kevin Wilson, he sent it to Erik Prince at 
		Prince’s Blackwater email address and to Ric Prado at his Blackwater 
		email address, and he told them that he had discussed with Kevin Wilson 
		Blackwater becoming the intel arm, the intelligence arm, of Monsanto and 
		that they had discussed using Blackwater/Total Intelligence operatives 
		to infiltrate animal rights groups. 
		 
		
		Of course, Monsanto is at the center of many 
		protests globally by farmers’ organizations, by animal rights activists, 
		by environmental rights activists. You discussed earlier in the 
		headlines this issue of hiring companies to spy in the state of 
		Pennsylvania. 
		 
		
		So when I asked Monsanto about that, they 
		said that no such discussion took place, but they did acknowledge that 
		they hired Total Intelligence Solutions beginning in '08 and all the way 
		up - working for Monsanto all the way up until earlier this year, in 
		2010. And they said that one of the things that they were doing for them 
		was to monitor activists' blogs and websites on behalf of Monsanto.
		
		
		
		The Disney corporation hired Blackwater to scout movie locations in 
		Morocco. And in that case, Rob Richer, former senior CIA officer, and 
		Cofer Black, both of them reactivated their contacts in Morocco from 
		their CIA days and used those sources as a way to build a sort of report 
		for Disney. 
		
		
		Deutsche Bank had them prepare - had Blackwater/Total Intelligence and 
		the Terrorism Research Center prepare a report on countersurveillance 
		tactics in China. And the Blackwater network of companies advised 
		Deutsche Bank that they should not be - that they should not bring any 
		electronic equipment when they go into China and that their executives 
		should beware of female Chinese agents trying to get too close to them.
		
		 
		
		And at one point, the analyst for Blackwater 
		says, "If women aren’t coming onto you in the United States and they 
		start coming onto you in China, well, then, you know something is 
		suspicious." 
		
		
		Perhaps what is going to be most eye-raising for some in Pakistan about 
		what I’ve reported is the idea that Benazir Bhutto worked with 
		Blackwater in the months leading up to her death. There’s an email that 
		I obtained from Rob Richer, the former deputy director of operations at 
		CIA working for Blackwater at the time, where it is revealed that 
		American security has been hired by Bhutto. 
		 
		
		And richer writes back - and I think it’s 
		important to quote this exactly as he said it - he writes to the other 
		analysts for Blackwater and Total Intelligence Solutions, and he says,
		
		
			
			"We need to watch this carefully from a 
			number of angles. If our name surfaces, the Pakistani press reaction 
			will be very important. How that plays through the Muslim world will 
			also need tracking." 
		
		
		Richer wrote, quote, 
		
			
			"We should be prepared to [sic] a 
			communiqué from an affiliate of Al-Qaida if our name surfaces," 
			meaning Blackwater. "That will impact the security [profile]."
			
		
		
		There’s a word missing there, or there’s a 
		typo. 
		
			
			"We should be prepared to" - what - "a 
			communiqué." It’s unclear. 
		
		
		And the missing word or the typo there will 
		dictate, of course, the full meaning of that message, because Benazir 
		Bhutto was assassinated two months later. So I’m sure that this bears 
		much further scrutiny by the Bhutto family and the Pakistani government.
		
		 
		
		This really needs to be investigated, what 
		role Blackwater had in Benazir Bhutto’s security operations. 
 
		 
		
		AMY GOODMAN: You also mention Blackwater 
		working for Chevron Corporation, a company we’ve both investigated 
		together, Jeremy. 
 
		
		JEREMY SCAHILL: Well, it looks like Chevron 
		was a subscriber, in some form, to the intelligence services provided by 
		Total Intelligence Solutions and the Terrorism Research Center. 
		Blackwater - or, excuse me, Chevron is listed on one of the documents 
		that I obtained that shows the list of top ten vendors for the Total 
		Intelligence Solutions and Terrorism Research Center for their client 
		base. 
		 
		
		But there were no specifics about what the 
		company - the companies, Blackwater-affiliated companies, did for 
		Chevron. That’s also the case with some of the other companies on there. 
		And I think one of the reasons why I wanted to put this out is that I’m 
		hoping that other journalists are going to follow up on this and really 
		press the issue - just exactly what was Blackwater doing, particularly 
		after the Nisoor Square massacre, for all of these powerful 
		multinational corporations? 
		 
		
		
		AMY GOODMAN: We’re going to go to break and come back. Investigative 
		journalist Jeremy Scahill is our guest. He has an explosive piece at 
		thenation.com. It’s called "Blackwater’s Black Ops." Stay with us.
		
		 
		
		
		[break] 
 
		 
		
		AMY GOODMAN: We’re finishing up with our 
		guest Jeremy Scahill, independent journalist, and the piece in The 
		Nation magazine, "Blackwater’s Black Ops." As we wrap up on this third 
		anniversary of the Nisoor Square massacre, Jeremy, I wanted to go back 
		to Ric Prado and the losing the secure phone line. 
 
		
		JEREMY SCAHILL: Right. There was a flurry of 
		emails at one point in October of 2009. Clearly, someone from the CIA 
		had contacted Blackwater and was asking them to account for their secure 
		telephone unit. These are telephone units that are encrypted and allow 
		conversations that cannot be penetrated or eavesdropped on, and they’re 
		used regularly, the more current version of it - they’re called STEs - 
		are used regularly by the NSA or the CIA, by the President himself.
		
		 
		
		And, you know, clearly, the - Blackwater had 
		been issued one of these telephones because of its covert work for the 
		CIA, of course, the CIA assassination program, that lasted at least from 
		'04 to ’06 involving Blackwater. And various Blackwater officials are 
		emailing around, and they can't account for it. And people are saying, 
		"I have no dog in this fight. I’ve left the company." 
		
		
		And then Ric Prado, who had left Blackwater and started his own covert 
		operations shop called Constellation Security Group, Constellation 
		Security Consulting - Ric Prado emails, finally, to kind of say, "Well, 
		I’ll take care of this." And he says, "Have the OGA point of contact 
		contact me." OGA, of course, is parlance for the CIA. It means "other 
		government agency." 
		 
		
		Prado’s company, I think, Constellation, 
		needs to be investigated, because he writes in these documents that he 
		carried out operations in Mali, in North Africa, potentially involving 
		Chad and Congo. We know, of course, that there’s increased CIA and Joint 
		Special Operations Command activity happening on the African continent.
		
		 
		
		And the role of this company, of this man 
		who is a twenty-four-year veteran of the CIA, a paramilitary for the 
		CIA, his company, his new company, needs to be investigated because it 
		appears as though he’s taken some of Blackwater’s covert CIA business 
		with him into his new company that he himself has started and now runs.
		
 
		 
		
		AMY GOODMAN: And, Jeremy, you’re talking 
		about Constellation Consulting Group, or CCG. We want to thank you very 
		much for being with us, Jeremy Scahill. The piece is explosive. It’s at 
		thenation.com. Interesting you raise the issue of Blackwater spying for 
		Monsanto, because tomorrow on Democracy Now! from here in Bonn, we’re 
		going to speak with Canadian farmer Percy Schmeiser, who took on 
		Blackwater in a big way. 
 
		
		PERCY SCHMEISER: The Parliament in Cape Town 
		of South Africa, and coming out of the Assembly, one of Monsanto’s 
		representatives from Johannesburg ran face-to-face into us, and he lost 
		his cool, and he said to my wife and myself - and he shook his fist in 
		our face and said, "Nobody stands up to Monsanto. We are going to get 
		both of you, somehow, some day, and destroy you both." 
		 
		
		Phone calls my wife would receive: "You 
		better watch it. We’re going to get you." They would come into our 
		driveway and watch what my wife would be doing all day. They would use 
		their vehicles and sit on the roads alongside of our farmland, watch us 
		all day long, to try and intimidate us and to put fear into us.
		
		
		AMY GOODMAN: That’s Canadian farmer Percy Schmeiser, took on
		
		Monsanto Corporation in a big way. 
		You’ll 
		hear his story tomorrow here on Democracy Now!, 
		as we continue to broadcast from Bonn, Germany, where the thirtieth 
		anniversary of the Right Livelihood Awards is being held.