December 19, 1998

Q: Hello.
A: Hell.

Q:
And who do we have with us this evening?
A: Timmah.

Q:
And where do you transmit through?
A: Cassiopaea.

Q:
I have two questions I want to ask before Ark gets started because I think they will be short. The first one is: what is up with my son? Why is he acting so much like a bully?
A: Many reasons.

Q:
Can we do something about it effectively and peacefully?
A: To an extent.

Q:
What would be the best course of action of the ones we were discussing earlier?
A: Level.

Q:
Talk to him? Level with him?
A: Why not?

Q:
Very quickly, can you give me a synopsis of the reasons for this behavior? Is he jealous of Ark, is he a portal of attack, is he reflecting his father’s influence, or all of the above?
A: More 2 than 1 or 3.

Q: You mean he is being used to disrupt us in an attempt to divert, slow down or stop the ‘mission?’
A: Yes. There are physiological components, too.

Q:
What are the physiological components?
A: Hormonal.

Q:
Can anything be done about the physiology part - is there a tea, or an herb, or a supplement that will help him? Something to ease that for him?
A: Would be unwise. Might lead to still further substance experimentation.

Q:
What substance experimentation?
A: You know them as drugs.

Q:
Why would giving a tea or herbal preparation lead to substance abuse or experimentation?
A: Leads one of “a tender stage” to believe the answers lie within physical solutions.

Q:
So, we need to level with him, and he needs to develop spiritual and mental controls of his own?
A: Close.

Q:
Can you get me any closer?
A: You must know that there are karmic issues here, therefore the rapids must be
ridden.

Q:
Can you tell us the nature of the karmic interaction?
A: No.

Q:
Is the karma between me and my son, or Ark and my son?
A: More for you.

Q:
Wonderful! Just what I needed! More on my plate!
(A) What does this mean, ‘further substance experimentation.’ Is he experimenting?
A: Has.

Q:
(L) He told me that he did, but didn’t like it. Was he telling me the truth?
A: Not entirely. You have been naive before. Best not to think your offspring do not seek to deceive you. This is almost a matter of policy with them. Why would you suspect otherwise?

Q:
Well, I DID think that all the care I had taken in talking to them and explaining things to them, and being open with them, sharing with them; the sacrifices and suffering they are aware of, that there would be less of that sort of thing. I guess I am living in an illusion here...
A: It is far more complex than that. Even in the most open, loving environments, karma threads its needle. It is not possible to control one’s fate unless one is familiar with all, all of the energies involved. At 3rd density, you do not possess all of the tools, which are born of a higher understanding. It is somewhat akin to taking a shower while donning a raincoat!!
 

Q: Well, that seems to say that we have some work to do in terms of higher knowledge and these energies. Can you give some guidance in this direction?
A: You know, or have access to the guidance. You often forget, or neglect it in the passionate, emotional environment of the practicing!
 

Q: Any special word of wisdom for dealing with my son, or all of my children, at the moment?
A: On the very lowest rung of the ladder of navigation, losing weight would enhance self-esteem, thus softening the blow somewhat.

Q:
What blow are you talking about?
A: What do you think?

Q:
J___ has received a blow?
A: No.

Q:
Are you talking about me?
A: More or less. It is a blow for third densities to see their best laid plans go awry.

Q:
So, you are saying that any and all of my plans for my children should just be chucked out the window and I should just forget it?
A: No, of course not!! But, “your plans,” negates the acceptance of the fact that their souls have “plans” of their own!

Q:
So, all I can do is get through it as best I can, and soon they will all be on their own...
A: Closer.

Q:
So, I should plan for the day when they will all be out of the house. I have almost reached that point. I have stopped planning for them, I have stopped trying to shape their lives...
(F) Yes, but you know, everybody who has kids goes through this, and the more kids you have, the more you go through it.
(L) Well, some parents keep trying to control everything and it is just an endless, fruitless, struggle. I’m not doing to do that. I can see when a strategic retreat is advisable.
(F) I have never yet seen or heard of a parent who was truly capable of seeing that the desires they had for their children would be completely realized.
(L) Anything further on that subject?
A: No.

Q:
Now, I THINK that my second question will be a lot quicker and simpler! If, at 4th density, there is variability of physicality, and the Lizzies, as you have previously said, are engineering new bodies for themselves to occupy in some sort of mass transition at the time of this realm border crossing; in this state of variability of physicality, why do they need to engineer new bodies for themselves? Why, in point of fact, are Lizzies, Lizzies?
A: Too many questions.

Q:
Why do they look like Lizards?
A: They do not.

Q:
Well, why do we call them Lizard Beings? I mean, YOU named them that?
A: We label in accordance with your familiarity. If we had called them “Drachomonoids,” what would be your point of reference??

Q:
What do they REALLY look like?
A: You can figure as needed.

Q:
You said they resemble upright alligators with humanoid features, six to eight feet tall...
A: Yes.

Q:
So, why do they look like that?
A: Biology.

Q:
Does biology exist at 4th density?
A: Yes.

Q:
Yet, its a variable physical density, right?
A: Yes, but what is your assumption here?

Q:
I don’t know what my assumption is. I guess that I am assuming that if it is a varible state, they could have a different biology very easily. Isn’t that the case?
A: No.

Q:
Can they appear as something else? Change their physicality?
A: Temporarily.

Q:
When you say ‘temporary,’ what exactly do you mean? Temporal relates to time.
A: We have explained before that the biggest single factor regarding densities is the awareness level.

Q:
The awareness level. Okay, how does that relate to them only being able to temporarily change their appearance. Is this because they can control OUR awareness?
A: Closer. Are you not yet aware that absolutely everything, we repeat: everything is an illusion?!?

Q:
At some level, yes. So, still I ask, why, in the illusion in which we exist, or in which they exist...
(A) They say here that everything is an illusion, and on the other hand they say there is consciousness and matter. Everything is an illusion? Even this?
A: Yes.

Q:
(A) God is also an illusion?
A: Yes.

Q:
(A) Illusion to whom?
A: To those not on level 7. Your learning naturally dictates your experiences. Once you no longer require something, you naturally move beyond it. However, you retain it as a function of understanding.

Q:
(A) And I am also an illusion! And understanding is also an illusion!
(L) Back to my question: who created Lizzies AS LIZZIES?
(A) Our illusion...
A: Everything is real, therefore, illusion is reality.

Q:
(L) If everything is an illusion, from what does this illusion spring, and into what space does it spring?
A: Your consciousness.

Q:
(L) Where did this consciousness originate?
A: Consciousness is the absolute, the center point.

Q:
(L) Where is it centered?
A: Within the access.

Q:
(L) What is the access?
A: The prompt that begets energy.

Q:
(L) Of what is this energy made?
A: The consciousness.

Q:
(L) Was there ever a time when this consciousness did not exist?
A: No, but there never was a time.

Q:
(L) What prompted this consciousness to dream up all these illusions?
A: Need for balance. Energy cannot exist within a vacuum, therefore it must pulse. Hence you have waves.

Q:
(L) You say that the impetus for dreaming up all the illusions was the need for balance; that implies imbalance, and that the imbalance was existence in a vacuum...
A: No.

Q:
(L) What was the impetus for the need for balance?
A: Not a need, per se, just a natural function.

Q:
(L) Well, when you have a pulse, you have a wave, and if you have a wave, that implies time.
A: Therein lies the crux of your 3rd density illusion. Why assume that any given aspect of the pulse is not occurring simultaneously with any other. And if any are, all are. Until you once and for all break free from the illusion of time, you will not advance.

Q:
(L) Well, back to my question...
A: No, your question cannot be answered unless you stop assuming the range of acceptable answers.

Q:
(L) I am done, then.
(A) This is a question about time... [laughter] You say time is an illusion, but you have said many times things about time, and I want to ask about this time. I asked whether time was to be considered as the fourth dimension, you said why not consider time as springing from the fifth dimension. Was this a joke, or was this a serious thing for me to consider?
A: Serious.

Q:
(A) Okay. At another point when we were talking about gravitons, you first said that there were no gravitons, per se, but that a ‘graviton’ was an electron in a time vacuum.
A: Yes.

Q:
(A) When you said that there are not gravitons, you meant that there are none in the usual sense of the word as implied by some physicists.
A: Yes, closer.

Q:
(A) Well, in a well devised Unified Field Theory, there is a place for something we may call ‘graviton,’ and this something comes from, or has a similar source to an electron, but within a time vacuum. At that point I started to think of time as a kind of field - like other fields. This field has something to do with this fifth dimension. I have a hypothesis about how one can have time coming from a fifth dimension, and what a time vacuum means. This means that, where there is a time vacuum, there is no time.
A: Yes.

Q:
(A) Okay, now, this is one thing. At some other point we were speaking about pentagons and hexagons and I tried to be tricky and when it came to pentagons, I wrote a mathematical formula, a symbol for a pentagon, and then there was the question of signs. We needed five signs. I asked you whether there should be four pluses and one minus, or 3 pluses and two minus. The answer was that there should be 3 pluses and two minuses in a pentagon. Now, what about a hexagon?
What should I put in a hexagon? Three pluses and three minuses, or four pluses and two minuses?
A: Four and two.

Q:
(A) That is what I hoped for, however, I see a certain discrepancy between this pentagon, because if I start from five dimensions, and I try to build something such as a time field from one plus and one minus, I use one dimension, which is like a light dimension in this five dimensional space, then I end up with two pluses and one minus, which has nothing to do with anything that we know in physics. For me there is a contradiction between three pluses and two minuses and the fact that I need to build time as an extra field. What to do? I don’t know. What should I do?
A: When we said “spring forth” from 5th dimension, what interesting possibilities does this pose?

Q:
(A) You get what we may call a time form and this time form is sometimes like any other physical field. So, of course the different possibilities that I can mathematically model: time form, time vacuum, different times, time loops, and other things. These are interesting possibilities that I have, provided I use something similar to Kaluza-Klein. Did I miss something?
A: It is not that you miss something, it is merely that you have not yet found the something.

Q:
(A) What is this something?
A: Tetrahedron.

Q:
(A) Okay, at some point we were talking about a 3 dimensional matrix, 12x12x12. I was wondering where this 12 comes from, and I was thinking that 12 is 2x6 and I was supposed to be looking at hexagons, and a hexagon represents 6 dimensions, four pluses and two minuses. If I add to this 6 energies corresponding to 6 dimensions, then I have 12 dimensions, and this would account for number 12. Is this correct?
A: Yes.

Q:
(A) Now, this all has something to do with gravity, and at some point you said that all this gravity/anti-gravity business is just the way, and that the main goal is to attain higher knowledge. What is this higher knowledge; what kind of higher knowledge?
A: You are on the path.

Q:
(A) I want to ask about Ruggerio Santilli. He was here, talking to you, using his own terminology. You were answering using some of his terminology. Several times I tried to understand his work, but I simply cannot. Is this something wrong with me?
A: No.

Q:
(A) What should I do about this? I have all these papers he wrote which I collected, and I really wanted to study them and understand, but whenever I started, I had to stop because I do not understand. He is using undefined terms.
A: Undefined terms take shape when fine tuned. Ruggerio Santilli is considered a rogue in the field of physics because he strays from convention. His dreams direct his research. But this is not such a bad thing. It frees the conscious mind from the prisons so revered at your density level. Best to lovingly fine tune the work of the dreamer, thus giving it substance in the realm of convention.

Q:
(L) How does one go about lovingly fine tuning the work of a dreamer?
(A) This is not the point. The point is that he is writing mathematics - and what he is writing is NOT mathematics. He is not able to define his terms; neither he nor his friends who write for him. So, it is not mathematics, it is dreaming. I like reading dreams, but when it is a mathematical paper with a formula...
(L) So, the next obvious question is how to convert this into mathematics?
A: Is tricky, but requires patience in the form of removing and reworking the mathematical units that do not fit.

Q:
(A) He has this obsession with using variable units... iso-units... and he has this view of gravity that is similar to the view of some other Russian
physicists... and, according to him, space-time is flat. It is just a flat space with an iso-unit - a deformed unit. This is contrary to Einstein where space-time is curved, and you have worm-holes and all kinds of topological features. But, for Santilli, space-time is a flat space with time. Is he right in this?
A: And flat cannot curve?

Q:
(A) If something is flat, it cannot have a hole, or a wormhole... if it is flat, it is flat. It cannot get a hole which is connected to the other hole.
A: What if the “hole” is parallel to the plane of the flat curve, rather than perpendicular?

Q:
(A) In Einstein’s gravitational theory and cosmology, we are told that the universe is closed, so it looks like a spherical surface... it cannot be a spherical surface...
A: That assumes only one universe. Not interconnecting ones of variant natures, and therein lies the fault with Einstein’s theory. However, there is a void of known substance to Einstein’s Unified Field Theory. Why do you suppose he embarked upon that path to begin with? It was to serve as a merger between his hypotheses. Its completion was made secret.

Q:
(A) Okay, we have this material world, and the spiritual world, and mathematics is supposed to help us to bridge these two worlds. I know how to describe the material world, fields, particles, waves, quantum waves, with mathematics. But, I want to know what mathematical concepts are needed or should be used to describe this other part, the spiritual part. Now the only thing I know about this spiritual part is that we were told that consciousness is the purest form of energy. Should the mathematical concepts used to describe energy also be used to describe consciousness? Or, is something else needed?
A: Well, you certainly get there by utilizing mathematical concepts.

Q:
(A) Well, we certainly have to get there by utilizing mathematical concepts, however my question is: WHICH mathematical concepts? What should they look like? Which direction? I have NO IDEA how to mathematically model consciousness and how to bridge it to the physical world. How to do it? Give me a starting point, if you please.
A: What starting point do you seek?

Q:
(A) Okay. Point to me a paper, a book, somebody, some idea, that will put me on the track. I have no idea at all how to go beyond the physical world using mathematics. I can dream...

(L) Do the same terms that describe the physical world also describe the spiritual world, but with maybe a sort of twist?
A: Mathematics is the great unifier.

Q:
(L) Are you saying that mathematics ITSELF, is the expression of the spiritual world?
A: Bridge.

Q:
(L) Well, since all is an illusion, it would seem to me that the mathematics that describe the physical world would be, at the same instant, describing the spiritual world - only, perhaps, a mirror image.
A: Illusions only fit their own realms, as needed. Why do you have infinity?

Q:
(A) Well, because we have natural numbers, and we can easily prove that there are infinitely many natural numbers.
A: But this is the desperate attempt to superimpose a linear scale upon that which is, by nature, really cyclical.

Q:
(A) Okay, do you say we have to get rid of infinity? We should count 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0? Or something like that? We don’t NEED infinity? No, probably not, because the question was about consciousness... and not we are prodded to think about infinity - everything is cyclical. Okay, just a while ago I was asking about this plane, and a plane is infinite, contrary to a sphere which is finite and cyclical. You said that the plane is good and the sphere is bad. So...
A: No.

Q:
(A) But a plane, by itself, is infinite - that’s how we came to infinity, because we had an infinite plane...
A: What is a circular plane?

Q:
(A) What?! A disc. Sometimes we ask them questions and we get answers to other questions... Last question: I am in a general state of desperation because there are so many things to learn, so many paths to follow, so many things to be investigated, so many theorems to prove, so many mathematical concepts that can be developed, and so many things beyond mathematics and physics that need to be investigated, crop circles, for instance, that I really don’t know where to start. I don’t want to go in a maze that goes nowhere... What to do?
A: When confronted with such a quandary, it is best to simply do, without prejudice, nor fear of error. Let the path create itself, in other words. And, on that note, good night.

End of Session

 

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December 26, 1998

Q: Hello.
A: Hello.

Q:
And who do we have with us this evening?
A: Zanea.

Q:
And where do you transmit through?
A: Cassiopaea.

Q:
Before Ark gets on to his questions, which will probably take a long time, I want to ask two quick ones. Last week you told me that I needed to lose weight to get ready for a ‘blow.’ I don’t like the sound of that. Then you made a remark about my children’s souls having ‘plans of their own.’ Later during the week I had a dream about Ali setting me up to be put in jail, and she told me in the dream that it was ‘the most potent dream of my life is to see you in prison for what you have done to us.’ I told the dream to Jason, and he said that Ali’s hate and vindictiveness toward me is so extreme that she is ‘plotting’ terrible things against me. Then he also made the remark that she or Anna would not live long, and he could just ‘feel it.’ Naturally, I became very upset about all of this taken together. I would like to know if you can tell me just exactly what this blow is that I am supposed to be preparing myself for?
A: We explained before: refer to text.

Q:
Do you mean as in physiological, needing to have surgery?
A: No. Reread session, we think you have misinterpreted.

Q:
Is it true that Ali has this horrible hatred and vindictiveness toward me?
A: Semi.

Q:
What is the root of this hatred?
A: Personality clash.

Q:
Well, I love her very much, and it is very painful to think that she feels that way about me.
A: But she does not know what “love” is yet.

Q:
Is there hope for the situation?
A: Yes.

Q:
Should I write to her?
A: Yes. That may help but avoid the urge to “Clintonize” in the “yes but...” fashion. One is disarmed by a stance of humility.

Q:
Okay, I guess that is the thing that has really been worrying me, so I will save my other questions until the end.
(A) Finish your questions first, because I always make them tired.
(L) Okay, I have discoverd that this author, Goodrich, thinks that the island of the grail castle was the Isle of Man. There are a huge number of the clues you have given on this grail quest that seem to converge in this area, including the coast of Scotland. There is a cave where Merlin is supposedly buried, four churches, the Isle of Man, the little islet of St. Patrick, the churches of St. Patrick and St. Germanus, or ruins of them, standing next to each other, and the church called “Candida Casa” in a meadow, or field, that was dedicated to St. Augustine; there is a place along the coast called ‘Rhinn’ and the northern part of Wales was formerly called ‘Galles.’ So, it is like all of these things converge to this area, and there is the consideration that King Clovis of the Franks was a contemporary of Arthur and there may have been blood connections. Am I on the right track with these churches in this area?
A: Maybe so, but you did not finish with the previous subject!

Q:
What else could I do to ease the situation where Ali is concerned?
A: It is Anna who deserves concern.

Q:
Can you point me in the right direction? What can I do to help Anna?
A: Level with any who are in contact with her.

Q:
In what way?
A: Regarding obvious disturbances of a mental/emotional nature!

Q:
Can you get me closer than that? Her bulimia, her obvious lack of self-esteem, her borderline personality disorder, the drug and alcohol abuse- should I try to have her put in the hospital?
A: Work through others.

Q:
What others? Jason?
A: No.

Q:
My mother?
A: Yes.

Q:
Alethiea?
A: Yes.

Q:
Lewis?
A: No.

Q:
Can you help me here...
A: They need to be informed. This is a self destructive soul, at this juncture.

Q:
Is there anything else I can and should do for her?
A: Okay, now ask yourself, what do you know about the situation, and what influence do you have?

Q:
Well, I know that she is a very sick little girl, and it is breaking my heart, but she has rejected everything I have tried to say and do, and she is of an age where there is really not much I CAN do without making her completely alienated from me! I don’t have ANY influence.
A: But do others?

Q:
That’s debatable! Anna doesn’t listen to anybody.
A: Wrong!

Q:
Give me some hope here...
A: This is hope. Ignorance is hopeless.

Q:
So, I should write to Ali and try to get her to help me to watch over Anna, to try to influence Anna?
A: Close.

Q:
And I should have a talk with my mother and let her know in no uncertain terms that Anna IS very sick and needs help? From my past experiences with my mother, I almost think that she is the root of the alienation from my children. She has spent most of her life NOT understanding a thing about me and therefore, stabbing me in the back at every turn.
A: Is she influencing Anna to be self-destructive?

Q:
I don’t know. Her effect on me when I was young was certainly contributory to my own self-destructive tendencies. Is she?
A: No.

Q:
I need to know what I can do here, what is in the realms of honoring free will...
A: Does daughter number one know?

Q:
I don’t know...
A: What do you think?

Q:
Well, one of the most shocking things I have had to face is the fact that Anna lies almost constantly and even when she does not need to. I can’t understand this. It is tearing me apart, and no, I don’t think she has told the truth to Ali, and, in fact, I even think she may subconsciously be contributing to the continuance of the alienation of Ali just so she can continue her own self-destruction. She doesn’t WANT any of us to talk together because then we would compare notes about her behavior!
A: So... ?

Q:
Obviously, for her sake, we need to put these issues aside. Why is Anna so self-destructive?
A: Multiple reasons, much has to do with past lives.

Q:
This is such an emotional issue for me that it is hard to digest all of this and think. Can I ask about this past life or lives, or is it relevant?
A: It is relevant if Anna were to get help from a past life therapist.

Q:
Is Anna, herself, aware that she has a problem?
A: Semi.

Q:
Is there ANY willingness in her to get help? Does she want it?
A: Semi.

Q:
Is it not interference for me to do such things?
A: It is not interference to level, then state concerns and telegraph warnings. The mistake is made when one tries to command actions.


Q:
As it stands, looking at it from your 6th density position, if I take these steps you have outlined in a proper way, is there a possibility of a positive outcome, meaning that my child won’t kill herself?
A: Yes.

Q:
How good of a possibility?
A: 80 per cent.

Q:
Well, that is better than 50-50.
(A) Why should we be more responsible for our children than for other people?
A: What do you mean?

Q:
(A) Why do we worry so much about our children when they are grown; we spend so much energy on this; we lose sleep; but these are separate souls, so should we not practice to become immune to this worry? Why do we worry about our children?
A: Genetic/emotional/hormonal/instinctual/karmic interface is most intense there.

Q:
Does it have to do with a pre-life agreement to interact in certain ways, to do certain things?
A: Partly. Souls chose you as a vehicle for primary learning regarding karmic
lesson profile.

Q:
Is it part of the karma between Ali and me for her to detest her mother?
A: She does not know what “detest” is.

Q:
Well, I heard that when she got the check we gave her for Christmas that she tore up the card and threw it away and said ‘but I’ll keep the check.’ That was very hurtful and makes her seem so shallow and hopeless and I doubt that she will ever get over it.
A: Shallow, eh? Yes to part one, no to part 2.

Q:
You mean she WILL get over it?
A: Most likely.

Q:
Well, I love her so much that this is all very difficult...
A: But she thinks sex is love. When one believes this, who needs parents? You are viewd more as an acquaintance, i.e. friend/enemy.

Q:
Can you tell me how LONG it will take her to get over this?
A: Open.

Q:
(A) Probably 10 to 20 years...
A: No. Ark, what about your daughter? We see some similarities there.

Q:
You mean his daughter is shallow and thinks sex is love?
A: Yes.

Q:
(A) Well, I am not going to write a letter...
(L) Do you think I shouldn’t?
(A) No, you have been advised to...
A: We were not suggestion Ark write letters, but he has insight. One who has insight can offer advice.

Q:
His advice is just ‘hands off’ and don’t give it a lot of energy because I spend so much time being upset over all of it that I can’t concentrate on anything else...
(A) Just wait until they are all ready to come back and listen...
A: Good advice, except others should be made aware of Anna.

Q:
So, write a letter, convey the information, and then hands off. That is all I can do.
A: Yes.

Q: Okay, I am done.
(A) I was trying to put together things related to research on UFT, and the questions I have asked recently. After a time of being quite desperate, because I could not put these things together, I could finally see some dim light. So, I would like to ask. But, please do not reassure me if what I think is wrong... just tell me it is wrong, and I will look for something else. I came up with the idea that we should model our space time on a kind of a surface embedded in a higher dimensional flat space. This would account for several things that you have told us. At some point you said the following: ‘Old makes new again,’ which suggested that we should come back to what Einstein was thinking, and then you said ‘equilateral versus hypotenuse.’ I didn’t have a clue, but then I got an idea that it is related to different kinds of tensors with three indices, rather than to geometrical features. Is this guess correct?
A: Partly, but geometric figures provide a third density guide for visualizations of field concepts.

Q:
(A) Hmmm....
A: Pyramids inverted upon one another.

Q:
(A) Where to put these pyramids?
A: Hexagonal representation of flat plane...

Q:
(A) What is hexagonal representation?
A: What does a hexagon look like when converted to three dimensional representation?

Q:
(L) Well, a ‘flat pyramid’ is a triangle, and a triangle has three points, and two triangles inverted becomes a sort of Star of David, and that has six points and is a sort of hexagon...
(L) Well, this hexagon business... two dimensional inverted pyramids make a Star of David. But, what if these pyramids were really tetrahedrons? They LOOK like a hexagon in a plane, but in 3 dimensions...
(A) They are octohedrons... Octonions... hmmmm....
A: Vortices... this is what your “wormhole” would look like.

Q:
(A) Now, we have a problem here, because you speak in terms of features, geometrical features, and I would like to convert this to equations which...
A: Okay, what is the problem?

Q:
(A) I want to describe gravity, and to describe gravity I must have some geometrical quantity which describes this gravity, so my idea is that gravitational field is described by the bending of our space time in a higher dimensional flat space...
A: Yes...

Q:
And that this bending would describe both gravity and electromagnetism.
A: Yes...

Q:
(A) In all this I do not see a place at all for tetrahedrons. What do they have to do with a bent surface?
A: Maybe you do not see yet.

Q:
(A) But, still I want to understand what was all this talk about tetrahedrons. So, I thought about tetrahedrons that I have worked with and met in my research. There were several occasions. First, there are tetrahedrons which we need if you build a continuous theory of completely discrete elements. Then we do the triangulation of the surface, or we need tetrahedrons to triangulate space, so let me call it Place One. Place Two: tetrahedrons I understood as symbols because tetrahedrons have three edges from each vertex, so I thought this three should represent third order differential equations. Place Three: I use tetrahedrons for describing magnetic monopoles, but they were not necessary, and I have no other way to put tetrahedrons into the idea to bend geometry. If things are fluffy, what are tetrahedrons doing there? I have no clue at all! So, I want to ask about a possibility of describing different densities. It came to my mind that perhaps Einstein, when you spoke about variable physicality, that Einstein was afraid when he understood that in his work. I thought about this and I think that Einstein determined that the future must be determined from the past and present, and when he found that he had a theory where the future was open, he dismissed it and was afraid. Is this a good guess that variable physicality, mathematically, means a theory where there is a freedom of choosing the future when past and present are given?
A: Yes.

Q:
(A) Is it related to the fact that we should use higher order differential equations, not second order?
A: Yes. Einstein found that not only is the future open, but also the present and the past. Talk about scary!!

Q:
(A) All you have said so far points to an idea by a Swiss guy named Armand Wyler. This Wyler found a way to compute from geometry so-called Fine Structure Constant, which is a number and can be found experimentally. Then, of course, he was invited to Princeton to explain how he did it, and apparently he failed to explain himself, and he ended in an asylum for the mentally deranged. The question is: if I follow his way of thinking, can I succeed in deriving and understanding the nature of this Fine Structure Constant?
A: Yes.

Q:
(A) Well, if I do it, should I keep it a secret so that I won’t end up in an asylum?
A: The problem with Wyler was with the audience, not the speaker.

Q:
(A) What does that mean?
(L) I guess it means that the people he was talking to couldn’t grasp it, not that he couldn’t explain it. Did he really lose his mind, or was he sort of ‘helped’ to go crazy?
A: He suffered a “breakdown.”

Q:
(A) Now, let’s change a little bit. BRH sent me an e-mail where there was a discussion between Sarfatti and a Russian physicist who was working with Sakharov by the name of Ryazanov, at Moscow University. He says he can do derivation of quantum mechanics from electro dynamics with two signs of time. He is speaking about possible reversing of causality. On the other hand, he is saying that it is the sin of physicists that they believe in the power of mathematics. Part of what this Ryazanov is saying seems to correspond to what I think also. Does he really have a theory which explains quantum mechanics?
A: Yes, but he made an omission.

Q:
(A) What omission?
A: Calculating the frequency constant.

Q:
(A) Okay, I will try to get his paper. In looking for this Ryazanov on the web, I have found the pages of a Polish Medical Doctor who is making all kinds of funny experiments, including parapsychological, being, at the same time, director of the University Clinic. I had the idea that I should get in contact with him. Who is he? Can I have a clue?
A: Who is he?

Q:
(A) His name is Brodziak. He is in contact with Sarfatti, Pitkannen, Deautsche, and so on. Should I become more active in these discussions, these mailing lists?
A: Sure, but you will need to separate the “wheat from the chaff.”

Q:
(A) Okay, I am done.
(L) Okay, let me see if I can get a couple of these other questions in. I have this book called the “Curse of Cain,” and it talks about the relationship between Monotheism and Violence, positing that Monotheism itself is the root of violence. She has a chapter on Covenants. She writes ‘Collective Identity, which is a result of a covenant of Monotheism is explicitly narrated in the Bible as an invention, a radical break with Nature.
A transcendent deity breaks into history with the demand that the people he constitutes obey the law he institutes, and first and foremost among those laws is, of course, that they pledge allegiance to him, and him alone, and that this is what makes them a unified people as opposed to the ‘other,’ as in all other people which leads to violence. In the Old Testament, vast numbers of ‘other’ people are obliterated, while in the New Testament, vast numbers are colonized and converted for the sake of such covenants.” She also talks about the idea of the ‘provisional’ nature of a covenant, and that this means that it is conditional. Believe in me and obey me or else I will destroy you. That’s all fine and good, and the chief thing that occurs to me is that this belief business in religions or whatever, constitutes a sort of ‘permission,’ if you will, to take the ‘vengeful’ action if the agreement is broken. The Hebrew phrase for ‘he made a covenant,’ is karat berit, or literally, he CUT a covenant. In the covenant with Abraham in genesis, animals are cut in two and a fire passes between them in a mysterious ritual. Then, there is the cutting of the flesh at circumcision, and the Sinai covenant where the laws were cut into stone. So, these covenants are apparently what constituted Israel as a nation. The entire foundational frame of Israel is framed by the severed pieces of animals, it seems. Why?
A: Confused principles.

Q:
Book says: ‘In ancient Near Eastern rituals, the cut made to the animal is symbolically made to the inferior who enters into the covenant with a superior.” Is this an accurate representation?
A: Maybe for some.

Q:
At the making of the Covenant at Mt. Sinai, there was a bunch of sacrificed animals, and Moses took the blood , dividing it in half, he cast one half on the altar. Taking the book of the covenant, he read it to the people, and they said ‘we will observe all that Yahweh has decreed. We will obey.’ And then Moses took the blood and cast it on the people saying ‘this is the blood of the covenant that Yahweh has made with you containing all these rules.’ What is this blood of the covenant?
A: Has to do with bloodline.

Q:
So this symbolized the bloodline of the Jews?
A: No.

Q:
What bloodline are we talking about here?
A: Aramaic/Aryan.

Q:
Are you saying that the Jews are Aramaic/Aryan?
A: No. Jews are not bloodline categorizable, per se.

Q:
When the person who was later represented as Jesus lived, was that, as Paul described it, a New Covenant of Blood?
A: No.

Q:
Was any of this related to the Nordic Covenant?
A: In a parallel sense.

Q:
Okay. Umm... It says then: ‘We are heirs of a long tradition in which Monotheism is regarded as the great achievement of Judaeo-Christian thought. Monotheism is entangled with particularism, and with the assertion that this god, and no other, must be worshipped. This particularism is so virulent that it reduces all other gods to mere idols, and is so violent that it reduces all other worshippers to abominations. The danger of a universal Monotheism is asserting that its truth is THE truth; its system of knowledge, THE system of knowledge; its ethics, THE ethics; not because any other option must be rejected, but because there simply IS NO OTHER OPTION. They presuppose a kind of metaphysical scarcity, a kind of hoarding mentality, hoarding belief, hoarding identity, hoarding allegience, because there is a finite supply of whatever, it must be contained in whole or part. It suggests limit and boundaries.’ Well, aside from reminding me of the parable of the talents, she goes on to talk about how Monotheism is the chief thing at the root of violence in our culture. She makes a good case. Is this idea part of the Nordic Covenant?
A: No.

Q:
Is the Nordic Covenant in any sense similar to any of the things I have read here?
A: It is a mystical thing, not related to theology in a direct sense.

Q:
How long has the Nordic Covenant been in existence?
A: 5129 years.

Q:
Is the Nordic Covenant made between humans and other humans, or between humans and higher density beings?
A: Mostly between humans and humans, but some of the other.

Q:
Does this Nordic Covenant exist on the earth today in similar format as it did at its inception?
A: Yes.

Q:
Is this Nordic Covenant the same as you have referred to as the Quorum?
A: No.

Q:
Would you say that the Nordic Covenant and the Quorum are in opposition, or just different?
A: Segmented relationship.

Q:
Is there any particular thing about this that I ought to ask at the moment that I am not going to discover in the course of my research? The mail group asked a few questions about this, so I thought I ought to approach the subject. Is the Nordic Covenant made between people who are blond and blue-eyed?
A: Not the central issue.

Q:
What is the central issue of the Nordic Covenant?
A: Bloodline extends off the planet.

Q:
Is this Nordic Covenant a group that is in place on the planet for the purpose of guarding or propagating a particular bloodline?
A: To guard secrets.

Q:
What does this secret have to do with a bloodline?
A: You should be able to figure this one out!

Q:
Are these people with this bloodline and with these secrets the same ones involved with the genetic engineering of new bodies for the Lizzies to occupy at the point of transition to 4th density?
A: No.

Q:
Are these secrets negative to our civilization or race?
A: From your perspective, maybe.

Q:
Do these bloodlines have to do with Nephilim?
A: A little.

Q:
What secrets are they guarding?
A: Your origins; the nature of your being.

Q:
So, this Nordic Covenant is that which wishes to maintain the darkness of our realm, the time loops, the replays, and all that sort of thing?
A: One of the players, yes.

Q:
You also said that the Nordic Covenant was a duality, that it could be positive or negative. So, if that is the negative side of it, is the positive the same, or different?
A: Too complex for your current understanding.

Q:
Is the ‘buried treasure’ of the Templars or Cathars, or whoever, manuscripts from the Alexandrian library telling about the true origin and nature of man?
A: Well if so, maybe that would explain the structure you live under.

Q:
Society? The Universe? The EM grid? Any or all of the above? What structure do I live under?
A: Forced choices.

Q:
Is that what is buried off the coast of Scotland, the Isle of Man, in that region?
A: No, at least not the whole puzzle.

Q:
Am I at all correct in pinning this location down, so that I ought to work on the further project of getting some detailed maps to get even closer? A piece is there.

Q:
Is there also a piece in Rhineland proper, as in Germany or France?
A: Maybe...

Q:
How many pieces are there? Seven? Seven Horseheads... ?
A: No more clues on that. Good night.

End of Session

 

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January 2, 1999

Q: Hello.
A: Hello.

Q:
And who do we have with us this evening?
A: Siannah.

Q:
And where do you transmit through?
A: Cassiopaea.

Q: I want to check up on my daughter Anna. I wrote the letter to Aletheia as you advised. I didn’t get into anything about Anna, I just basically told her that I was a miserable human being and asked her forgiveness for being so imperfect. There has been no response. I also talked to Mother about Anna and explained some of it to her. She was shocked, but she could see that her own observations ‘fit’ the picture. I also learned from her that it is very likely that Anna stole money from her. Apparently, Anna is pretty desperate. Can you tell me what this business of making others aware of her problems is going to accomplish, other than making her feel penned in and closed off from support?
A: No, the important thing is to make others aware, so as to lessen the dangers. Remember, knowledge protects, ignorance endangers.
 

Q: Chloe suggested that I print out the sessions about Anna and give them to her to read - to level with her might work. What do you think?
A: Not at this juncture.

Q:
Anything further I can do? I asked Mother to talk with Aletheia and explain the situation to her. Maybe if Aletheia is less upset with me, she might be more inclined to listen. So, as you said, I can only do what can be done through others.
A: Good.

Q:
Anything further I can do? Has the situation changed in any way?
A: No.

Q:
Would sending her Reiki help?
A: Certainly.

Q:
Okay.
(F) Well, Aletheia has prejudices, but she doesn’t have the inability to understand what is going on or to use logic to put two and two together.
(L) Is Anna under some kind of psychic attack or is she attached in some way?
A: Closer to the latter, but remember, the biggest goal here is for you to suffer such a shock that you would quit the work!

Q:
What kind of shock?
A: You know this!

Q:
Is my daughter going to die?
A: That could be a possibility, but you have made it less likely. The next step may be to increase the communication.

Q:
With Aletheia or Anna?
A: With those who can reach her. Make them aware of the gravity of the situation by pointing out the patterns, history, etc. Suggest you use the approach you have already begun.

Q:
Would it help if Freddie would talk to her?
A: Not likely at this juncture, as she associates him with you.

Q:
Now, you know I am desperate here, because you know that, the fact is that if something happens to one of my children, it would completely ...
A: We know that.

Q:
So, we need desperation measures here. Should I see if I can send her to Chloe for a while?
A: You cannot “send” her anywhere.

Q:
Should I talk to the doctor and have her put in a hospital?
A: No. If you can persuade your oldest daughter of the reality of the situation, you will have moved mountains!

Q:
Can Freddie help there?
A: Maybe, but again, she too associates him with you. A better approach to take would be a follow-up letter expounding upon the previously mentioned statements...

Q:
I don’t think Aletheia will listen to anything I say...
A: It can be done. If her sensibilities are stimulated by playing the “what if” game, for instance.

Q:
What if what?
A: “How would you feel if...”

Q:
(L) How would you write this letter, Freddie?
(F) Well, I would not wait for a response to the first one, and I would suggest that when you write the letter you frame it by saying: ‘I know that you may not believe me, and you think I am exaggerating about Anna, but this is crucially important.

(L) Well, I was thinking that I should point out that, since the C’s have been right on so many occasions, that this should be taken seriously...

(F) Well, it isn’t just what they are saying, it is evidence of long standing, even if the symptoms were not identified and acknowledged early on... it is solid as a rock! She almost died last year from an overdose which we NOW know was NOT just an accident. It was NOT what she said it was. I don’t think she intended to put herself into a coma, but it was subconsciously self-destructive. That is a dangerous sign. If you eliminate the idea that the alcohol was foisted on her, or that she was abducted, or that she took a sip and didn’t know what happened after that, and go to the reality that she deliberately was getting drunk, she guzzled down alchol very rapidly - that is a bad sign. And, the book says that bulimic girls are suicidal. That is what the books say.
(L) Okay, any further comment? Anything...
A: This is up to you.

Q:
(A) I would like to know who is directing this scenario? The original question was whether she was under attack...
A: 4th density STS.

Q:
Is there any other blocking techniques we can employ?
A: Knowledge always leads you to all the blocking techniques you will ever need.

Q:
Should we do a remote spirit release, or a remote protection of some sort?
A: No.

Q:
Should I explain to Aletheia all the things you have said about the situation?
A: Better to simply explain the basics. Remember, she does not believe in our reality.

Q:
So, keep you out of it and deal with the facts. Okay. I have had a couple of dreams lately. In one we received a 22,000 dollar check from Constellation because they wanted to buy Ark out of the remainder of his contract. In the other, we got a LOT of money, from some unknown source that seemed to be something like an inheritance. Can you comment on either of these dreams?
A: There may be more money for you, but no need to speculate upon the possible sources.

Q:
I was just concerned about this thing with Constellation. They strike me as a bizarre bunch of people...
A: All corporations are ultimately linked to the same source, either directly or indirectly.

Q:
One other question about Anna: we had discussed it and agreed that even if there is a difficulty, we would not offer any financial support to Anna under the circumstances, since we do not wish to in any way ‘reward’ her lifestyle and decisions. Is this an advisable course of action?
A: What difficulty?

Q:
Well, they have moved into a place that depends on Anna having income, and she quit one job and can’t get another, and they are not going to have enough money to live there....
A: Anna can get a job if she wants one. To elaborate, “jobs” are very plentiful in your locator, and Anna presents a most pleasing appearance.

Q:
Should I talk to Matthew? She has started hanging around with hims again.
A: Matthew is not on your wavelength.

Q:
Well, if she doesn’t do something soon, she is not going to have the money to keep her pager running. Maybe this will be a good thing, since you have made the remarks you did about beepers. Will this help?
A: Immaterial.

Q:
Well, let me get to some of these other questions. Previously you said that the central thing about the Nordic Covenant was that there were bloodlines that extend off the planet. From what I understand, all humans on the planet have bloodlines that extend off the planet. In what sense did you mean this about the Nordic Covenant; that the bloodlines extend off the planet?
A: Not all so recent, not all so “pure.”

Q:
In the sense of recent, how recent do you mean?
A: Speculate, using your transcripts.

Q:
I am reading some books about the various members of these families that were involved in all these strange things back in the 12th century. What I would like to know is, were all of these people as licentious and corrupt as these books make them out to be?
A: No.

Q:
Well, the awful stuff that gets written about incest, sexual abuse of young girls, and all kinds of really dreadful behavior among these people. Henry II was actually at war against his own sons and kept his wife in prison for years... it just makes one ashamed to be connected to these disgusting people! But, you are saying that this is an incorrect portrayal?
A: No, “people” are always dubious form some perspective or another.

Q:
Why is there a legend that the King of the Franks could heal with the touch of his hand?
A: So can you.

Q:
As in anybody?
A: Close, if you have the knowledge...

Q:
I am inferring from what you are saying that the Franks had knowledge of some order, passed down through the royal families, or the kings...
A: On an individual basis, it has always been thus.

Q:
On a couple of occasions when you have made the remark ‘it is not germaine,’ using that peculiar spelling, did you mean that it was not only NOT German, but also NOT French?
A: Maybe.

Q:
So, we are back to something else. I once asked about the Third Man Theme and that perhaps you meant that the imagery was that of the Triple Goddess relating to the Isle of Man... and you said ‘if viewed through sheets of rain.’ So, in this book that I am reading, it talks about the fact that the Celts of Gaul worshipped the Rain as the manifestation of the Goddess, and the Celts of Scotland worshipped the Sun... the male God. Does this relate in any way to this remark you made about sheets of rain?
A: In an offhand way.

Q:
Anything further you can tell me in terms of a clue about ‘sheets of rain?’
A: Not for now, when you get there, you will find the chalice.

Q:
Where and WHAT chalice?
A: Wait and see!

Q:
Okay, now, enough of that. Onto this alien book. It seems to be almost a point by point refutation of some of the things you have told us. At the same time, it is very revealing. This guy says that ‘alien scientists have developed an array of human programs or life orientations which they use to create human hybrids. I was programmed to serve others, and most of my life has been devoted to service as a public official, educator, and psychic counselor. My life exemplifies one category of alien programming.’ Is it a fact that the Reptoid aliens are making a bunch of hybrids to ‘serve others.’
A: No.

Q:
Another thing he talks about is the underground laboratory, and he has a terrible time trying to speak about it because of the pains in his head. He finally gets to the point where he admits that part of the human ‘engineering’ project, part of what they are doing with the embryos they create by harvesting human eggs and sperm, is that they use them for ‘nourishment.’ Naturally, he is aghast at this admission from his own memory. And somehow he just glosses over it. Is this true? That some human embryos are being created to provide nourishment for aliens?
A: In a sense.

Q:
He never comes back to this specifically, except to vaguely state that the vats and body parts and all that which are reported by many eye-witnesses, are merely ‘symbolic’ imagery to teach us how unimportant the body is... can you comment?
A: Not necessary.

Q:
He further says that the Reptoid aliens have been increasing human intelligence for these many thousands of years with the intention of letting go and leaving us on our own. The Reptoids are going to pull out soon, because they just came to help us evolve, and now we are at the stage we can take charge of things ourselves... Have the Reptoids been increasing human intelligence? Is this part of their agenda?
A: Perhaps, but the agenda is not as stated.

Q:
Okay, he says ‘I wonder if the current relationship between humans and aliens may be analogous to the abolition of slavery in America. Freedom arises when people accept others rather than being afraid of them or trying to control them. We may be learning to accept a technologically advanced interdimensional race, and the aliens may be trying to transform us into compatible neighbors. Perhaps humans and aliens will become more alike as time passes and our two dimensions will become increasingly integrated. They are now allowing us to discover this information. I believe the aliens are getting ready to reveal who they are, but first they are helping us to discover who we are. Aliens may be programming human hybrids like myself to learn through self-discovery and self-acceptance, and we are likely to learn more about them as we discover ourselves. Important information about them may be archived in our minds or implanted in our bodies. To retrieve the information, we must learn to express the interdimensional aspects of our being. In other words, we must integrate our human and interdimensional selves and learn to function in both worlds. I believe this is how we will eventually establish two-way communication with our alien creators, and learn to coexist with them.’ Blah-blah-blah. Then he says that he was created from the genetic material, and soul essences of three separate individuals. Comments please.
A: No need.

Q:
Well, yeah. All of these things have already been covered, which is why it was so interesting to see such different explanations for the same observations. He says that his ‘image is being used to tell people: wake up human hybrids! It’s time to accept your interdimensional identity. It’s time to discover your Reptilian heritage and fulfill your mission!’ YUCK! Then he talks about the sexual aspect of abduction. He wondered why it occurs so frequently.
A: This is not germaine.

Q:
And there is that funny word again! But, he thinks there is a link between the frequency of human sexuality and Reptilian intelligence... he thinks that ‘this could explain why people so often perceive aliens and their messengers in sexual roles. So many abductees report having sexual experiences, in fact sexuality is a common theme of all alien abduction experiences. Could sexual stimulation be part of the methodology of alien intelligence?’ Could it?
A: And the “playboy channel” originates on Zeta Reticuli!

Q:
Okay, I am done.
(A) My first question is: I was thinking about what could be the optimal situation for us, for me to work and to proceed, and I decided that the best situation is to have a lot of money, so that we are independent. So, I started to think about how to make a lot of money, and it came to me that the best thing is to get the Nobel Prize next year. So, I started to think about how to get a Nobel Prize, and the best possibility is through computing this Fine Structure Constant. This is in my reach, and it can be done in one year, and it is safe to get a Nobel Prize for this. Am I hallucinating here?
A: Your goals are reachable, but the Nobel Prize is politically charged.

Q:
(L) Yes, but it gives sufficient influence that one can do what one likes, and it certainly is not the money that you get as the prize that is so significant, as it is the offers you get after you have it that are significant. I don’t think that, in and of itself, it is such a huge amount of dough. It is a chunk of change, but not to set one up for life unless one is very frugal and careful.
(F) One bar of soap every nine months.
(L) It will buy more than that! (F) I am just saying that if you have to be that frugal... to be set for life...
(A) I am confused. If it is politically charged, this means it is not the optimal way of optimizing the situation.
A: Optimal way is nonexistent. But, investing one’s earnings helps.

Q:
(L) Investing in what?
A: Wide array of options.

Q:
(L) Well, when we get some earnings to invest, we will discuss it, unless there is something you want to say now.
A: Money shall not be a problem, as we have stated previously. We told Laura that her situation would improve...

Q:
(L) I suppose that the ‘...’ refers to the psychomantium?
A: No, it refers to other things, too.

Q:
(A) Next question: I have become active on the internet and came in contact with a fellow by the name of Paul Butnick, who proposes some kind of collaboration. So, I am supposed to help him and he says that we shall apply for a grant from NSF to work on faster than light communication. Is this a good idea? Or...
A: Pursue with caution and patience.

Q:
(A) Is that a way of saying to go with this idea?
A: ?

Q:
(L) I would say, caution and patience means don’t move too fast.
A: But not “do not move.”

Q:
(A) Are we on the right track with our public activities? Are we not making mistakes in this discussion with these scientology types?
A: Be careful about being over-eager to share the information you receive in this communication too widely.

Q:
(L) We are being careful. Where this communication is concerned, we have only shared some philosophical things. I don’t think we have ...
A: It is you, my dear, that gives us some concern. This will not be a pathway to “fame and fortune,” unless and until it is balanced.

Q:
(A) Which communication are we not supposed to share, Cassiopaean?
A: Yes, but we did not say: do not share. We mean to be careful. Snakes in
the grass lurketh.

Q:
(BRH) I believe I found the right place at Polomar. Is it?
A: Yes.

Q:
(BRH) What is the best day and time to go to Palomar?
A: The day is not important, but the hour is best after sunset without
prejudice.

Q:
(BRH) Does that mean any time at night or specifically at sunset time?
A: Any time at night.

Q:
(BRH) Would it be best if I crawled under the fence and had a look at the little lakes there?
A: That is okay, but be careful of your footing!

Q:
(BRH) Do you have any other suggestions? I am open to all.
A: Why not bring binoculars?

Q:
(L) A camera. too.
(A) Infrared.
(BRH) Is there anything else you want to say on that subject before we bring it to a close?
A: Ask specific questions, please.

Q:
(BRH) Am I talking to a lawyer this time?
A: A lawyer has a meter which is always running. We do not. Did you find the
rock?

Q:
(BRH) I think so. Did I?
A: You will know, others have.

Q:
(BRH) What others?
A: No, no, not yet.

Q:
(BRH) So, you are not going to tell me, is that it?
A: Yes, that is it.

Q:
[Tape end, question lost. Notes indicate that it was something about Jack Parsons.]
A: Open.

Q:
(BRH) What is the significance of the rock? A Well, maybe it has something to do with energy vectors... Now Dev, you must also know that Palomar is also connected to the activities of those who have controlled your realm for what you would perceive to be thousands of years, as you measure time. But while this is obviously important for a variety of reasons, it is good enough for you to know of this to be protected.

Q:
(BRH) Well, that was on my mind.
(L) Mine, too.
(BRH) Is there anything else I need to know to be protected?
A: Just know that this locator is oriented the way that it is for a reason.

Q:
(BRH) Does the military or the intelligence network know of the significance of that place or the rock?
A: Well, now have we not opened a can of wormes here? First of all, the “military intelligence network,” and the “government” are not existent in the way that they are presented.

Q:
(BRH) How should I respond to this statement about the military?
(L) Well, there is a bunch of stuff in other sessions, so I would try to read it all before asking more questions in that regard.
(BRH) Who else knows about this place? And what was the significance of the enormous gate that looked as though it was made to allow huge vehicles to pass?
A: Oh now we have hit upon something here, have we not? The gate has a sloping curve. Hmmm... would it not be nice to know where that leads?
 

Q: (L) How can a gate have a sloping curve?
(BRH) Just past the gate, the road curves and slopes downward.
(L) Well, if you go looking, don’t step on any landmines!
(BRH) Are you joking?
(F) Semi. But, beware of electronic sensors. Remember, ‘watch your footing.’ When your eyes finally get opened to all that is going on all around you, right under your nose, you will be amazed. But, when you finally discover that you are nothing more than a marionette hanging from some strings, you want to kick the other marionettes and say ‘look at those strings!’ And all they ever want to do is dance and think they are doing the dancing.
(BRH) Is there anything that can cause bodily injury there - land mines or whatever?
A: Lack of caution can cause bodily injury. But then again, 3rd density is ultimately dangerous to one’s body!

Q:
(F) As long as you are aware and you use caution, you’ll be okay.

(BRH) Who else is aware of the significance of this place?
A: Many.

Q:
(F) Well, it is amazing. I just never thought of Palomar as anything other than an observatory. God knows what is going on underground there - or anywhere, for that matter.
(BRH) Have I ever been abducted?
A: That will not be answered at this juncture, as the information would not be useful, until the questioner has discovered one more piece to the puzzle relating to “Berkeley.”

Q:
(BRH) Regarding the alleged implant in my back, I am considering having it removed. Is this a wise choice.
A: No.

Q:
(BRH) Is it a good idea to possibly bring Dr. Alexander in on this stuff?
A: Only when it has been determined what benefit would be served by all concerned. Good night.

End of Session

 

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