4.1 A NEW MODEL OF GRAVITY

We have clearly examined the evidence that suggests that what we are dealing with is a universal, time-varying energy source that unifies all areas of “empty space” together as a Oneness. The work of Prof. Shnoll gives us incontrovertible evidence that a whole hidden dimension exists in the quantum field that we are completely unaware of, which shows that “all motion is relative” in ways that we had never before imagined.

The studies with Nina Kulagina and Alla Vinogradova prove that human consciousness can directly create and / or affect all the known energy fields of science. Our thoughts will move through all of our cells even if they have been removed from our body and placed at a distance. For all of these phenomena to occur, there must be an aetheric energy, and this energy must stream into all physical matter in order to sustain its existence. So bearing that in mind, what exactly is gravity in this new model? How does it relate to the philosophy of Oneness and the “big picture?”

Our fundamental premise for this book is that as human beings, we only have an illusion of being separate; in reality, there is only one Supreme Being, one Consciousness, and we are very much like cells in this body – a body that is evolving. A number of different sources give us a metaphysical meaning for gravity, the most common being that gravity represents the tendency for all parts of the Creation to seek Oneness, to seek reunion with the Center. Furthermore, in the work of Dr. Walter Russell, a truly multi-talented artist, scientist, architect and musician, we have an enhancement on this concept for gravity.

In the Russellian model, gravity again is the tendency for all objects in the Universe to seek the center, but he then goes on to say that once reaching that center, new matter and energy is radiated outward. As we progress, we will see definite experimental and observational evidence that this must be true; as one example that we will cover in later chapters, this could very well explain the observation of the phenomenon known as “sonoluminescence.” In this chapter, our focus will be on getting a true understanding of gravity and the closely related force of inertia, and also show how these forces can be harnessed to create anti-gravity propulsion technologies.

So begin by asking yourself this: if you have an object in an area with no air and zero gravity, do you expect to encounter resistance when you try to move the object through space? It’s empty space, right?

There shouldn’t be any resistance in empty “vacuum” space, should there be?
 

4.2 NEWTON: PIONEER OF GRAVITY AND INERTIA

The answer to this question as well as our understanding of gravity came about from the work of Isaac Newton. Perhaps the ultimate cliché in all of science is the image of Newton sitting under a tree and discovering gravity when an apple fell down and hit him on the head.

From this initial inspiration, Newton composed a series of laws including gravitation and the “law of inertia,” which everyone remembers from their science classes as, “An object at rest tends to stay at rest, and an object in motion tends to stay in motion.” And that means that even in an airless vacuum without gravity, you will encounter a force that will cause you to have difficulty moving something through space!

So what exactly is that object moving through? In the conventional models it is simply a “force” and nothing more is discussed. Here, we will suggest that this force is caused by the energy of the universe.

Therefore, if we consider the spiritual perspective of our living in One Ultimate Being, then we can see how this shows us that no matter where we go in the Universe, we are always moving through the energy “body” of that Being, drawing the energy of space along with us.
 

4.3 CENTRIFUGAL AND CENTRIPETAL FORCE

Specifically, inertia is the force that you see being used in the science fiction movies when a space station is constantly rotating to create artificial gravity.

Thanks to the power of inertia, the rotation of any object will cause centrifugal force to form, which is what allows you to spin a bucket of water around your head in circles and have it never spill out. Centrifugal force will actively push away from the center of any object that is rotated, whereas centripetal force is created when the force presses towards the center of a given object or area.

The centripetal force is most easily seen at the center of a whirlpool, where all force is pushing towards the center.
 

4.4 PRINCIPLE OF EQUIVALENCE

So, we all know that gravity is very strong, as there’s nothing we can do to resist it, but inertia doesn’t seem as powerful; we hardly ever notice it or pay attention to its existence. However, this is not the way it works! Anyone who studies this information will know that the basic equations for gravity and inertia work in exactly the same way. This means that if you have a given object, both gravity and inertia exert the same amount of force on the objects. Einstein discovered this and referred to it as the “Principle of Equivalence.”

What that means to us is:

Somehow, the forces of gravity and inertia are married together, as though they were one and the same.

Although science should clearly have suspected that a new universal law was hiding in the Equivalence Principle, no one in the mainstream truly has a good explanation for it yet. However, before we look into that part of the puzzle, we must take a better look at the evolution of the theory of how gravity works, since the concepts have become more complex since Newton.

And even though gravity has been radically reworked in relativity theory, the only change in the law of inertia since Newton is the Equivalence Principle, which simply says that “Gravity and inertia act the same,” without ever explaining why.
 

4.5 EINSTEIN’S GEOMETRIC MODEL OF GRAVITY

The scientific community essentially remained content with Newtonian physics right up until the early 20th century, when Einstein created a radical new design for gravity. By postulating that all the universe is ultimately made of energy, not particles, he also created the rather bizarre-sounding idea that space and time are somehow fused together into a “fabric.”

On the face of it, this seems completely ridiculous to the average person, since we don’t think of time as a tangible thing; it is simply a measurement, and depending on your mood, your subjective perception of time could be very different. When you’re in love with someone, the clock could go “a mile a minute,” but when you’ve got five minutes left at work on a Friday and you’re watching the clock with anticipation, a minute can seem to take a lot longer – even the music on the radio could seem to get slower and more monotonous.

So how does time, something that to the human mind seems nothing more than a subjective perception of measurement, become a tangible “thing” that creates a fabric with space? We normally think of as simply being empty nothingness, certainly not part of a “fabric” that is married with time.

It certainly isn’t easy to think about, and that hasn’t won Einstein a lot of friends in the arena of philosophy. However, most of the physics community agrees that the universe must work in this way; neither space nor time is “real” as a separate entity, but instead they move and flow together. Even more importantly, a majority of aetheric researchers will quickly and gleefully point out on their websites that Einstein later admitted that the existence of an “aether” was not only possible, it was a requirement for this theory of General Relativity to be correct.

Obviously this is not a “popular” statement and most scientists will try to deny that he said it or make other types of excuses about it; remember that their favorite theories are at stake, and they will seemingly spare no expense to discredit the opposition.

 

4.5.1 CURVED SPACE
Now how does Einstein’s space-time model equate with gravity, you ask? Einstein said that this space-time fabric curves inward around a planetary body, thus forcing any traveling object or energy force, including light, to be attracted by that body.

 

The way that this is explained is generally to see this “fabric” as if it were a flat sheet of rubber that has been stretched out between four tacks. A mass such as a planet would be visualized on a much smaller scale as a marble that has been placed onto the sheet of rubber. The weight of the marble would cause the rubber to dip down into a funnel shape, and the more mass that the marble has, the deeper the funnel would be. Other objects of smaller mass would roll down into the funnel in the presence of the larger object.

By giving us this model, Einstein felt content with having come up with a solely geometric design for gravity. No longer did we need to hypothesize a “gravity force,” if the simple geometric structure of the space-time fabric itself, which he believed was simply a form of energy, caused these events to happen. Simply traveling through space causes you to naturally move towards the object; the actual space around the object is, as he put it, “curved.”

Although this is an excellent mathematical model that has been scientifically proven, up until now there was no clear-cut way to visualize it. Several problems immediately come to mind. First of all, we are puzzled by the idea of space as having substance, since “space” by its very definition is “empty.” However, in the aetheric model we see that Einstein’s bizarre idea of a "fabric" in space now has a clear identity - the ZPE / aetheric energy. As we said, in later years Einstein himself admitted that the idea of an aether was indeed required for this “space fabric” to exist, even though he wouldn’t be quick to call it that due to the scornful opinions of the mainstream scientific community.

The second significant problem in visualizing Einstein’s gravity model is that any curvature of space-time would need to surround a spherical object in three dimensions, which would ultimately form a larger spherical field of energy that was “curving” into the object. In reality, the word “flowing” is far more precise than “curving,” since we will suggest that this gravitational energy is constantly flowing into that planet!

 

The typical “curved space” diagram is obviously incorrect because it tries to show this curvature as a flat sheet instead of modeling it in three dimensions.
 

4.5.2 GRAVITATIONAL LENSING
Even though the idea of spacetime being “flat” cannot be correct, the core idea of objects distorting the space around them is still a good one. Astronomers are quick to point out that there have been definite observations of “lensing” effects around stars, so that when one star passes behind another star, the gravity of the star in front can actually cause the light from the star behind to flow around it and become visible. And obviously, this is called “lensing” because it appears as though the gravity of the object in front is acting just like a lens that reflects light.

 

This surprising observation has been noted and photographed many times, and in some cases the light from the reflected star actually emerges in a semi-halo around the star in front, creating as many as four different images of the star behind, spaced symmetrically around the star in front. This is about as much proof as any good scientist needs, and yet there is still a given segment of the alternative science crew that tries to dismiss these observations and completely disagrees with Einstein’s new model of gravity.

By looking at the phenomenon of lensing, we can see that there is good reason to have faith in the basic concept that mass causes a distortion of the space around it. In the aether models, this has a much deeper meaning than in conventional thought. Remember that at the beginning of this chapter, we suggested that gravity is not a “sucking” action coming from any given object, but rather it is the principle by which all matter in the Universe seeks the Center, or Oneness. The basic philosophy states that the entire Universe is one being that is constantly evolving, and gravity is another way in which that being is growing; it is constantly striving to reconnect, to gather to Center, to strive once more towards Oneness.

 

Though some people might feel this is wishy-washy and overly religious-sounding, the Law of One series illustrates this as a good metaphor of how a fundamentally conscious “ultimate being” manifests its own desire for Unity.

4.6 ZERO-POINT ENERGY: THE FLOW OF MATTER

As we said in Chapter Two, Dr. Hal Puthoff suggested that all parts of an atom would need to draw off of “zero-point energy” in order to sustain the atom’s existence. And since all objects in our Universe are made of atoms and molecules, then:

All objects in our Universe, regardless of their size, are consistently drawing in aetheric energy to sustain their existence.

 

Without this ongoing influx of energy to support themselves, they would shed heat and dissolve back into aether.

So what happens when you have objects of different sizes?

The larger an object is, the more aether will stream into it to sustain its existence.

This creates a force on other objects, since aether is streaming into them as well.

So, the aether could be thought of philosophically as the energetic “blood” of the Universal Being. Planets, stars and galaxies could be thought of as organs in its body, and they are constantly being refreshed by new life-force on a moment-to-moment basis.

This aetheric force, flowing in and out, is the father and mother energy of all matter, the very essence of life itself. This movement can be referred to in spiritual literature, both ancient and modern, as the “breath of life,” the “breath of the Divine” or the “breath of the compassionate.” And in Part Two, we will find out that observational evidence, gathered from the South Pole during the 24-hour days of sunlight at winter solstice, has proven that the surface of the Sun is continually heaving in and out in set rhythmic patterns, just as this model suggests!

Neither the Newtonian nor the Einsteinian models of gravity would be able to account for this un-anticipated movement, which intuitively makes the Sun feel much more like a living, breathing form of consciousness in its own right.
 

4.7 CELESTIAL MASS AS AN “AETHER SINK”

So, based on the concept that we have set forth, any object of matter in the Universe, such as the Earth, becomes akin to an “aether sink,” where the energy of the aether is constantly flowing into it from all directions equally. Gravity, far from being a force of attraction, is actually created by the pressure of the "aether wind" as it continues to flow into the Earth from all directions moment by moment, pushing down or "curving in" all objects equally from the space around it.

Obviously, this is not the model of gravity that will be taught in modern universities, but it nevertheless fits better with the overall picture. We remember that the gravity equations do not specify which direction the force needs to be coming from; they work just the same if gravity is a movement of force towards the center of an object as they do if it is a ‘sucking’ force that reaches from the inside of an object outwards. Thus, there is no evidence within Newton’s laws that a skeptic can use to disprove this idea; it is simply a different interpretation than the one that is currently popular.

So, the Earth is a very large body, and therefore a very large amount of aether must flow into it moment by moment to sustain its existence. And since all matter is made of aether, a smaller object will invariably be caught up in the energy that streams into a larger object. If you were to accidentally fall into a raging river, the mass of your body would be little match for the much larger mass of water that you were now moving with.

If we apply this analogy of a powerful river into an aetheric model in space, we have an easy method of actually visualizing this aetheric energy flow. When we view gravity in this fashion, we are all like mosquitoes that get stuck on a screen door as the air blows through it; the ground halts our downward motion, while the aether slips through the earth’s surface and continues to flow directly into the center, recreating every atom every moment.

And in Richard Pasichnyk’s book The Vital Vastness, he reports on experiments that have proven that once you drill more than 2700 kilometers below the Earth’s surface, a threshold is reached where the force of Earth’s gravity suddenly begins decreasing rapidly… and by the time you get to the center it’s theorized that there would be no gravitational force at all. This is due to the fact that after the force of gravity rushes into the center, a part of it rushes back out of the center and thus counteracts the force of gravity.

The depth of 2700 kilometers is the point where this outward movement is neutralized. In deep mines and boreholes, the strength of gravity is measurably different.
 

4.8 GRAVITATIONAL ACCELERATION “CONSTANT” EXPLAINED

Another "mystery" of gravity is that all objects fall at exactly the same rate, accelerating at either ten meters per second squared or thirty-two feet per second squared, depending on whether you use metric or English measuring systems.

This is another scientific fact that is easily overlooked as being unimportant. Most people will get caught at least once by the question, “Which weighs more, a pound of lead or a pound of feathers?” Former NASA consultant Richard C. Hoagland designed an experiment that was performed by the Apollo astronauts on the Moon, where a feather and a stone were dropped at the same time. Since there was no atmosphere to disturb the falling movement of the feather, they both traveled to the ground at exactly the same speed, just as the model had predicted.

At first, it might not seem that this is possible, since this concept forces us to admit that the mass of an object has no bearing on how fast it falls to the Earth. However, the new aether theory explains that the size of the object will not change its gravitational acceleration speed because the effect is being caused by the flux (or flow) of aether instreaming into the earth, not the weight of the object itself. In other words, the speed of Gravity is only the speed of the flow of aether, and this has nothing to do with the size of the falling object, since all instreaming Earth energy will travel at the same speed. If we think back to our analogy of a raging river, two floating objects will travel on the surface of that river at the same speed, even though they are of different sizes.

The mass of the river is so much greater than the mass of the objects that the objects’ masses have no effect on how fast they travel.
 

4.9 OBJECTS CAN ABSORB OR RADIATE ENERGY AND CHANGE THEIR MASS

Another one of Einstein’s most confusing postulates is that mass will continue to increase more and more as you approach the speed of light. Again, most people have heard of this concept since it is frequently used to “debunk” the idea that UFOs could really exist; in Einstein’s model they would become infinitely massive as they approached the speed of light.

Although we will have a lot more to say about this issue in future chapters when we discuss the true meaning of the speed of light, for now we will just focus on the core concept, which is the idea that when an object moves more quickly through space, its mass increases. Conventionally, our scientists don’t understand how or why this is occurring, but in the aetheric model it is plainly obvious. When we move an object through “space,” we are actually moving it through the aether. And that aether is a fluidlike substance that actually creates the object moment-by-moment. Therefore, if we see a given object as being like a dry sponge, then when we move that object through the “river” of aether, it will absorb more energy and thus increase its mass.

Now in the Einsteinian model, this is usually only seen as a one-way system: an object moves faster, its mass increases, and then you must deal with the consequences of a larger mass. This doesn’t necessarily mean that the size of the object would increase, just the density of it. However, if an object’s mass can expand this way in Einstein’s model by moving it faster, then would it also deflate its mass as it slows back down, like a balloon releasing the extra air that was once put into it?

No scientist has proven or disproven that this would be true, but it poses an interesting question; if the aether model is indeed correct, then:

An object’s mass is a measurement that is capable of changing, depending on how it moves through the aether.

This might not seem possible at first, but it can be visualized easily with the idea that the atoms and molecules are composed of electromagnetic fields that could absorb and release the fluid “pressure” of aether energy. In a natural state of rest, any object would automatically reach a balance between the pressure of energy inside of itself and the pressure of energy on the outside, as the energy would be continually flowing in and out at an even speed. However, if some of the energy pressure was radiated away from the inside of the object, then during that time it would weigh less. We will explain how to make the energy radiate away like this in just a moment.

For now, we also need to see that once we did this, a pressure imbalance would be created in the object similar to a vacuum.

As we know in the case of our atmosphere, once a vacuum is created in the air, the surrounding air pressure will cause new air to immediately rush back in. This is easily seen in the case of a thunderstorm. First, a bolt of lightning causes an area of the atmosphere to be instantly vaporized, and this forms a vacuum. Then, the surrounding air will immediately rush into that vacuum, and we hear a clap of thunder as the waves of air crash into each other. So, in the case of an object radiating away its energy pressure and forming an “aether vacuum” inside of itself, we know that the only way we could keep the anti-gravity effect working would be if the object was being forced to continually radiate away its energy on a constant basis. Otherwise, it would immediately fill its own “energy vacuum” with new energy and its weight would return to normal.

So how, then, do we get an object to radiate away some of the pressure of energy inside of itself?

We rotate the object.
 

4.10 ROTATION AND CENTRIFUGAL FORCE

As soon as we rotate the object, centrifugal force kicks in – the same force that would allow us to spin pails of water in circles around our heads without losing any water, if we did it fast enough. And as we are about to see with the DePalma Spinning Ball Experiment and others in the next chapter, many scientists have accurately measured slight decreases in the mass of an object when it is rotating. Normally, since this effect is so small, it is only interpreted as an error in the data if it is even noticed at all.

So, once again,

Centrifugal force causes energy (mass) to fly away from the center, through rotation.

Hence, if you only move an object in one direction through the aether, then like a dry sponge it will soak up more energy into itself. But if you rotate the object, centrifugal force causes the energy in the object to spray outwards. If you’ve ever tried to use a blender or a coffee grinder without putting the lid on top, then you know that when those blades start spinning, whatever you’ve put inside that machine will very quickly be all over you, the wall and everything else in the room!

This is the power of centrifugal force to cause any type of substance, either matter or energy, to radiate away from its center.
 

4.11 INERTIA AND ANTI-GRAVITY

So, how does this concept relate to anti-gravity? First, we must remember what our new definition of gravity really is. All measurements that we could ever make on Earth are occurring within this ‘river’ of aether, the very breath and lifeblood of Mother Earth. No matter where our anti-gravity laboratory is located on this planet, the aether in and around it will not “hold still” for us – it will continually be moving downwards. The gravitational mass of an object is simply caused by the aether that “blows” it down towards the center of the Earth.

So, the basic concept is that if you can rotate an object at a high enough number of revolutions per minute, you should be able to cause it to radiate away some of the aether force that would normally be pushing it down. By radiating the downward pressure of gravity out to the sides, its weight, or mass, could lower. Remember that if the earth has a constant stream of aether flowing into it, so does all other matter to a lesser degree.

Rotation simply radiates the energy streaming into an object away from its typical downward gravitational motion.

(Later in the book we will see that very precise sound vibrations can cause an object to vibrate violently and radiate energy away from itself as well, thus lowering its mass in a similar fashion.)

4.11.1 DEPALMA’S SPINNING BALL DROP EXPERIMENT
Again, to use a metaphor that involves flowing water, this principle of defying gravity is just as simple as taking a water hose that is pointing downwards and bending it so that the water flows out to the side instead.

 

"Sideways" is not normally considered to be a gravitational motion, but it clearly does have a force, like when you are riding on a rollercoaster and feel pressure against your chest. This “sideways” force is inertia! Dr. Bruce DePalma, a non-conforming MIT graduate, demonstrated this principle with an extremely simple experiment.

First, he would release two balls from two catapults side-by-side at an equal angle, and have the catapults put an equal amount of force on each ball. The only difference would be that one ball would be spinning at the terrific speed of 27,000 RPM, and the other ball wouldn’t be spinning at all. In a complete vacuum, he would observe the trajectories of the two balls and see whether anything changed; their height, their angle, their speed of travel.

 

And in so doing, DePalma discovered the impossible:

In defiance of all known physical laws, the spinning ball actually traveled higher, fell faster and moved farther than its non-spinning counterpart.

And as a side note, since skeptics are quick to ascribe all this to a principle caused by the atmosphere, we are reminded that it works just as well in a vacuum. The only choice that would remain is to attack the experiment itself, but as we go along we shall see that others have replicated this effect in many ways.

4.12 INERTIA IS AETHERIC FORCE

And so, we can see that aether exerts force upon matter, such as in the case of gravity, and this force can actually be tinkered with. Therefore, it should be no surprise that Dr. Hal Puthoff and others have made the radical suggestion that the existence of aether or zero-point energy in space is the real reason for why inertia exists.

In an article published in the scientific journal MERCURY by B. Haisch and A. Rueda that discusses Dr. Puthoff’s research, we see the following:

“…inertia is an electromagnetic force that switches on whenever an object accelerates through space… In our theory, inertia does depend on… an electromagnetic field (of aether) that pervades the cosmos.”

4.13 FREE ENERGY AND MORE

As we shall see, this new information is vital to overcoming gravity and harnessing this "energy of the vacuum" to provide limitless free energy without cost. And time and time again, the efforts of those such as Nicola Tesla have provided this fruit, and it has been vigorously stamped out by the elite, who simply ask:

"And where will the meters be on each house when we hook up this new energy supply?"

When they find out that there is no profit margin in a limitless energy system, they see their wealth flash before their eyes and the researcher is silenced or even killed, as is most likely the case with Dr. Bruce DePalma, who died young and unexpectedly in 1998. Tesla’s career was completely ruined by JP Morgan in the latter years of his life and his work classified, while Edison took all the credit and remuneration for Tesla’s innovations such as alternating current, which powers every electric outlet in the home.

And so, operational gravity-defying craft such as the Searl Levity Disc and free energy machines such as DePalma’s N-Machine have already been built on these principles, as we shall see. As we described above with DePalma’s Spinning Ball Drop experiment, perhaps the most useful relationship between gravity and aether is seen in rotation.

In the next chapter we will see a new concept of magnetism that gives us yet another way to harness the aether flow directly. Magnetism and electricity are very close cousins, enough so that they are defined by modern physics as being the same field - i.e. electro-magnetism. And when we combine magnetism with rotation, such as by magnetizing a gyroscope and hooking it up to draw electric current from it as DePalma has done, you can create anti-gravity and free energy at the same time!

The generation of "free" electricity from this one-piece "rotating magnet" concept was discovered by Michael Faraday all the way back on Dec. 26, 1831, even though most physicists would deem it impossible.

4.14 RECAP

4.1 Gravity is the tendency for all energy in the Universe to move towards the Center. Once reaching this center point, energy is re-radiated away from the center as light, heat and matter.

4.2 Even in an airless vacuum without gravity, you will encounter a force that will cause you to have difficulty moving something through space. This is known as “inertia.”

4.3 Centrifugal force will actively push away from the center of any object that is rotated.

4.4 Gravity and inertia obey the Principle of Equivalence; they both exert the exact same degree of force on matter.

4.5 Einstein modeled gravity as a function of geometry.

4.5.1 Einstein saw the space-time fabric as curving. However, it is more convenient to see this geometry as a three-dimensional flow of energy streaming into the object.

4.5.2 The “curvature” of space around a celestial object causes “gravitational lensing” to occur, where the light from a star behind it will curve around and become visible.

4.6 All objects in our Universe, regardless of their size, are consistently drawing in aetheric energy to sustain their existence. Without this ongoing influx of energy to support themselves, they would shed heat and dissolve back into aether. The larger an object is, the more aether will stream into it to sustain its existence. This creates a force on other objects, since aether is streaming into them as well. The “breathing” movement of the Sun displays this flow of energy in action.

4.7 The equations for gravity do not specify which direction the energy must be moving in. The idea that energy is moving down into the Earth as gravity and then radiating away from the core is supported by the finding that weight rapidly begins decreasing once we drill more than 2,700 kilometers beneath the Earth’s surface.

4.8 All objects move at the same speed under the influence of gravity because they are “caught up” in the much more massive “river” of energy that is flowing into the Earth every moment.

4.9 Einstein proved that when an object moves more quickly through space, its mass increases. This is actually an increase of “pressure” of aether inside the object. Similarly, if the object slows back down, we expect that its mass would decrease in due course, as the pressure of movement would be relieved. It is also possible to create a “vacuum” of energy in an object, thereby lowering its mass.

4.10 Rotation of an object causes its aetheric energy pressure to “spray” outwards, thus decreasing the object’s mass.

4.11 Rotation of an object can deflect the natural downward movement of aetheric energy out to the sides of the object and “redirect” gravity in a sideways direction, to a degree.

4.11.1 Dr. Bruce DePalma showed that simply rotating a steel ball and launching it off of a catapult through space will cause it to move faster, fly higher and travel longer than a non-moving ball. The effect works just as well in an airless vacuum.

4.12 Dr. Hal Puthoff said that “inertia is an electromagnetic force that switches on when you move an object through space.”

4.13 These effects can be used to create anti-gravity and free energy at the same time.

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