September 09, 2000

Q: Hello.
A: Hello.

Q: And who do we have with us this evening?
A: Larria.

Q: Where do you transmit through?
A: Cassiopaea.

Q: (A) Regarding my calculation of the coming of the comet cluster, taking into account all the data that were given, I came to the conclusion that there is no way to fit the data unless I assume that the period of the comet cluster is changing during these past 300,000 years. I had to assume that it is decreasing. Is this conclusion correct?
A: The period between visitations of the implicator is decreasing.

Q: (L) What is the implicator?
A: Visitor.

Q: (L) What is the visitor?
A: Maybe dialogue with Arkadiusz is good here.

Q: (L) Okay, I’ll shut up.
(A) Who is the implicator? Visitor?
A: Dark.

Q: (L) Oh, dark star.
(A) Okay, let me ask again. I am not ready to discuss the dark star. My computations had to do with the comet cluster which is an independent visitor, as I understand it. What about the period of visitation of the comet cluster? Is it also decreasing?
A: In accordance.

Q: (A) In accordance with the period of the dark star?
A: Shrinking orbital plane.

Q: (A) In accordance with the shrinking orbital plane. Is shrinking of the orbital plane the same as the shrinking of the orbit?
A: Close.

Q: (A) Taking into account the decreasing of the period, I came to the conclusion from all the data, that the coming visit of the comet cluster will be, most probably in the middle of 2009, with possible plus or minus 6 months. So, it will come 2009. Are these calculations correct?
A: You are doing well.

Q: (A) Is the comet cluster going to come in 2009?
A: We refrain here...

Q: (A) I am done.
(L) Now, I have this information that someone sent to me. It says that Palestinian rebels have 3 suitcase size, low yield, small capacity nuclear bombs. It further says that Palestinian leaders are being pressured to strike at Israel for blackmail purposes. The time factor which is critical is the third week of September. I guess they mean THIS September. It then says that, should this occur, Israel will strike back without compassion. Other Arab nations will gather to strike at Israel in the last week of October. Let me first ask if Palestinian rebels have nuclear bombs?
A: It is not Palestinians behind this effort.

Q: Who is behind this?
A: Complex, but consists of Persian influences.

Q: (L) Oh, the Iranians. Are they planning on using such a threat to blackmail Israel?
A: Will not work, if such effort is made.

Q: (L) If it doesn’t work to try blackmail, will they use these bombs?
A: No. Think about it: bombs of nuclear capability in Israel cook Palestine too since they are essentially the same!

Q: (L) Not to mention Iran, Iraq, Syria, Saudi Arabia and the whole kit and kaboodle. One of the things said in this information is that America is supposed to be “distracted” BEFORE this strike, (so that would have to be pretty soon here), by using nuclear devices in OUR country. Are they planning on using nuclear bombs in the United States?
A: How is this accomplished?

Q: (L) Well, I guess the idea is that terrorists would smuggle them in somehow and plant them and Boom! There you have it!
A: You make it sound easy!

Q: (L) Well... Anyway, they say that there are seven of these nuclear bombs in the possession of Palestinian rebels or guerilla groups in the United States now, that were brought in across the Southern Border with Mexico. It further says that the cities with the highest probability of being hit are New York, San Francisco, and others. The whole thing is supposedly backed by the consortium of “regressive aliens,” (whatever THAT is), composed of 19 races from the constellation of Orion along with the Draconians and Sirians. Well, it is sounding whackier by the minute, I got to admit!
A: Good tale spinners!

Q: (L) Yeah. Where do they come up with this stuff?
(A) But, you see, it seems that some kind of conspiracy has some bombs. Many kinds of conspirators may know about this fact, and somehow it has leaked out, so now they are discussing this and they are fighting over the best use of these bombs. The best use, as I would see it, is to use them for blackmail to get money. I would say that they may try to blackmail the government of the U.S. or Israel. But, blackmail will not work, and when it doesn’t, then the first thing to do is use one so that the next attempt at blackmail WILL work. This might be the most likely scenario.
A: No. Who is going to pay? And for what and to whom? Your world does not operate like that.

Q: (L) Well, considering the incredible surveillance capabilities of the U.S. government, not to mention possible alien technology, it is hardly likely that any such group would get far in such a plan. Not only that, since there is already a One World Government, and ALL nations are already under the control of the human/alien Consortium, they certainly aren’t going to go around blowing up what they already own. So, any information of this kind is purely and simply disinformation designed to confuse and disrupt and distract. Is that correct?
A: Close, and one can buy “low yield” weapons from disenfranchised Russians, but do they work?

Q: (L) Well, that’s certainly a good question! Another remark was that these folks made a prediction that New York was going to be sacrificed by 1999 (which obviously did not happen!), via a terrorist act of nuclear detonation. Some of the same story here. But, anyway, this was supposedly prevented by the “good aliens” that are proposed to be in contact with this source. It is claimed that this terrible prediction did NOT come to pass because of the “intervention of the Andromedans.” It says that San Francisco was targeted in order to set off the San Andreas fault, and that this disaster was designed to set off social and economic disorder which would result in more controls on a national level. Now, aside from the fact that it is really handy to make dire predictions and then, when they do not happen, to say that your “good guys” saved all our buns from the fire, it seems to be eluding these guys making the predictions that there is absolutely no need for anything like this to set up “national controls.” In case they haven’t noticed, we are already so completely controlled and monitored that there is simply no point in “fixing” what isn’t broken! But, what is the likelihood that any of this kind of stuff is going on; that is, terrible things are being avoided by all these “interventions?”
A: Please Laura, enough with this fantasy dribble!

Q: (L) Well, okay. So much for that! That was my take on it too, but since inquiring minds have sent these questions, I did think I would present them! Now, this one ought to be quick. Another correspondent wants to ask some questions about his research in astrology. The question is: could you give a number, in percentages, representing the degree of influence or correspondence of astrological factors, relating to the whole system of possible influence over character, constitution, and destiny of an individual?
A: Varies according to the preconceived notions of the perceptor.

Q: (L) So, it could have a great deal of influence for someone who believes it does, or no influence over somebody who does not believe? Is it possible that, if you do not believe, it has no influence? Or...
A: No.

Q: (L) So, even if you believe it has no influence, it will still have some influence?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) For somebody who is completely skeptical, what would be the percentage of influence?
A: Not measurable in such terms.

Q: (L) Can you get me in a ball park here?
A: You are misconceiving.

Q: (B) Is the reason you can’t give a percentage because, even under such circumstances, the percentages are variable?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) If it is variable, is there a percentage in a global or general sense of the term?
A: We have spoken of illusion before.

Q: (L) Is astrology in general a false assumption?
A: Astrology is a stepping stone to higher knowledge.

Q: (L) What is the most useful application of astrological concepts as known today?
A: Publishing works which other 3rd density types will gleefully purchase!

Q: (L) Well, that’s pretty cynical! Now, this guy has developed something he calls the “Natural House System.” He asks: Is the Natural House System a better approximation to the problem of houses in astrology related to other known systems? Is his idea better than what is out there?
A: If it if he can convince enough others.

Q: (L) Is there, in 4th density, an equivalent to 3rd density astrology?
A: Not needed there.

Q: (L) Okay, moving right along here. We have here a guy who has written a paper that says:

“To make interstellar travel believable, NASA was created. The Apollo space program foisted the idea that man could travel to and walk upon the moon. Every Apollo mission was carefully rehearsed and then filmed in the large sound stages at the Atomic Energy Commission’s Top Secret test site in the Nevada Desert and in the secured and guarded sound stage at the Walt Disney studios within which was a huge, full scale mock-up of the Moon.”

Is it true that the Apollo missions were films as described here?
A: No.

Q: (L) Did the Apollo missions actually go into space as we think they did?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) This guy further writes that,

“All names, missions, landing sites and events in the Apollo space program echo the occult metaphors, rituals and symbology of the Illuminati secret religion. The most transparent was the fakes explosion on the spacecraft Apollo 13 named ‘Aquarius’ at 1:13 on April 13, 1970, which was a metaphor for the initiation ceremony involving the death, placement of the coffin, communion with the spiritual world, and the imparting of esoteric knowledge to the candidate, rebirth of the initiate, and the raising up of Phoenix, the new age of Aquarius by the group of the Lion’s Paw...” and so on and on.

Was this occult significance applied to these events, either deliberately or accidentally?
A: Maybe coincidentally.

Q: (L) If there was any coincidence of application of these principles, did it bespeak an underlying synchronous or nonlocal reality of oneness?
A: These ideas being put forth this evening are entertaining if nothing else!

Q: (L) Well, I always said that you could derive occult significance from where the paper man tosses the paper on the lawn if you try hard enough! Nevertheless, this guy further writes that,

“The tremendous radiation encountered in the Van Allen belt, solar radiation, cosmic radiation, solar flares, temperature control and many other problems connected with space travel, prevent living organisms from leaving our atmosphere with our known level of technology. Any intelligent high school student with a basic physics book can prove NASA faked the Apollo moon landings. If you doubt this, please explain how the astronauts walked upon the moon surface enclosed in a space suit, in full sunlight, absorbing a minimum of 265 degrees of heat, surrounded by a vacuum. And that is not even taking into consideration any of the effects of the cosmic radiation, solar flares, micro-meteorites, etc.”

Comment please?
A: No comment!

Q: (A) On the list to which I am subscribed, there was news about a Brazilian physicist, D’Aquino is his name, who was doing experiments with anti-gravity. I was following his work, and it is true that he is a physicist, but what he was writing made no sense to me. Finally, he published a paper in which he described some effects he got, succeeding with his anti-gravity work, but when I read it, it seemed like cheating to me. The description was not of a TRUE anti-gravity effect. Nevertheless, NASA awarded this guy a 600 thousand dollar research grant to continue his research. The question is: did he really succeed in producing anti-gravity?
A: He succeeded in producing a red herring.

Q: (L) So, if we produce a red herring they’ll give us money, too?
A: Payment is for distraction value only. Maybe you would get a grant, but you cannot use the funds to redecorate!

Q: (L) Now, we have a problem with our group. There was an issue some weeks ago where another member was in dire financial straits. He understood the rules that you have to ask for help. He was homeless, jobless, careless, and pretty much rejected by his own family. Of course, we know that such situations can exist either because of attack or simply because a person is a user and manipulator and their family and friends know the score. We know that people can leave themselves open for this kind of attack in many ways. Nevertheless, I made it clear that, if the guy was trying to expand his knowledge base, and if he asked for help, he would get it. He asked if we could help with the immediate financial thing. We basically took up a collection and sent it to him, he was able to renew his rent, got a job as a night watchman, and stabilized, or so it seems. But then, as moderator on the e-group, he began posting some writings that were certainly not a positive reflection on the Cassiopaea site, to say the least, though, in general, I have no argument with anybody thinking or writing anything they like. In this case, however, he had been warned that, as moderator, certain behaviors and restrictions on participation applied because he was supposed to set an example or keep the group stable. There was also some question as to whether his writings and musings about mass killings could be evidence of instability, which might then lead to backlash on the Cassiopaean site and US. Knowing how such things, if left unattended, can certainly come back to hit you in the face, I made it clear to the group, the public, as it were, that this was not condoned nor was it reflective of our efforts. We removed him as moderator. The end result was that the small group started to talk about it and Linda decided that this was a BIG lesson for all of us, and if we didn’t “get it” now, we were going to keep getting it over and over again. The big lesson, in her mind, was that we helped this guy and by helping him, we violated his free will because he didn’t really “ask,” and that opened the door for us to all be attacked. Well, the list became quite divided on this one. There were those who were simply not expecting anything about the recipient to change, and who felt that giving was NOT a mistake. And then there was Linda and her circle, Carla and Alisa, who were all pretty much agreeing with her that we did a big boo boo by giving ANYthing to this guy, Phillip. Right at this point, problems erupted in the lives of a number of the group members. Linda got a big toothache and was attributing her toothache and energy problems to this “giving” episode. And, of course, it was notable that nobody had any problems until the idea that it WAS a problem was suggested. However, in the midst of the toothache, Linda wrote about it again and, voila! Her tooth stopped hurting! She then wrote to me privately and listed the obvious attacks we were all getting: Sara had foot problems, Polly had bowel problems, my writing on the page that was produced right after this was stinky, Ingrid and Adam were depressed, and so on. The issue was, of course, even if Phillip asked, did he REALLY ask?! The fact that saying it brought immediate relief to her tooth was, in her mind, validation. The fact is, however, that nobody had any problems UNTIL it was suggested, or insisted, that this was a big lesson and we all screwed up by giving! We should have made the guy crawl on his knees, or ask over and over or whatever. Now, this is the situation behind the questions. Before I even start, do you have a general comment on giving for the future?
A: Best to investigate carefully before giving.

Q: (L) Well, yes. We did investigate within the limitations of the medium. Perhaps not as thoroughly as would be liked, but considering the small sums of money involved, it wasn’t worth a big deal here. But, again, as soon as the email was posted suggesting that we had a lesson going on because of Phillip’s behavior on the list, the personal problems among the various members kicked in. My feeling was that if we gave with no strings, if we did not think it was going to “save” him, our intent was to demonstrate a principle. But, my question, straight out is: is Linda right that we should not have given anything at all?
A: When one gives, best to not expect ANY outcome.

Q: (L) I didn’t. I wasn’t even upset with the guy afterwards, except to just more or less calmly write the email that would establish disassociation and remove him as moderator. And, I did that simply as a preventive measure because of past experience. And, I don’t think Polly or Sara or Barry or any of the others had any expectations either. But clearly, since she suggested that we made a mistake by trying to “save him,” which was the last thing on my mind, that it was the FIRST thing on HER mind. She must have somehow felt that our act was going to save him, and she must have been attached to an outcome even if she said that she wasn’t. She had a big string attached to her giving.
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Well, she writes to me about the physical manifestations that everybody was getting from Sara’s feet to Polly’s colon. She wrote that Polly “was pissed about the prospect that someone said she might be wrong” and that she was in denial and that this was the root of her colon problem, since Phillip’s internet handle is Bucket Man, or BM, and now Polly had a “BM” problem. Linda read this as a clue, completely ignoring that this was a flare-up of an already existing condition and that IF the flare up related at all, it was more likely related to the conflict than Phillip or helping him. Then, Sara’s foot problem is related to the fact that she wrote to Linda that “she refuses to go there” as in getting into a conflict about Phillip, I guess. Of course, at this point, I became aware that Linda was more or less writing to the others on the list, trying to convince them that she was right since I was not confirming the “we made a mistake” idea. Actually, I thought the whole thing was a tempest in a teapot, but it was clearly a BIG deal to Linda. She had an outcome expectation, and nobody else did. She got this terrible toothache which lasted until she dumped on everybody how bad they were for giving to Phillip and how direful the consequences were going to be if we didn’t “tighten up” and “get it.”
A: Toothache is incidental but the heartache is not.

Q: (L) So, her heart was hurting and it manifested through the tooth?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Well, why did the toothache end after she “had her say,” so to speak?
A: She was “dumping” negative energy. This always resolves issues for the “dumper,” but not necessarily for the “dumpees.”

Q: (L) I see. Well, the thing is, my feeling is that, from my own experience, when you see an issue like this outside of you, it reflects something in your personal life. You are in the process of giving and doing in a personal way, and you are asking for love, but not getting it. Is this a reflection of her lesson?
A: Reflectivity can be present but the lessons for individuals are for the individuals.

Q: (L) In a general sense, did we violate Phillip’s free will by sending him cash?
A: No.

Q: (L) Did we interrupt his lessons? Or did we become part of an enriched lesson?
A: Closer to the latter.

Q: (L) Well, why did Polly have this flare up? Was that a result of Linda’s dumping?
A: No.

Q: (L) Well, since she already asked me to ask, what IS the deal with the bowel problem?
A: Polly has lessons yet to be learned regarding internalization of anger, and the physical circumstances which match.

Q: (L) How can she follow up investigating this?
A: Past experiences fester.

Q: (L) What would be the best approach for her to deal with this?
A: Forgiveness helps, especially when concerned parties are now in 5th density.

Q: (L) Can you speak to her with something that will be a clue?
A: Tough, but not impossible.

Q: (L) Speaking of negative energy, where did negative energy come from that Linda is holding? Did she connect to Phillip by giving?
A: Phillip is not germane to her issues.

Q: (L) So, you are suggesting that there are just simply big issues going on with Linda and this incident was just a likely thing to blame it on? Did this negative energy come from her misperceptions? Does it come from outside her, as in someone projecting it onto her? Is it amplified emotions inside her? Is it her expectations or illusions?
A: Some of the above and more.

Q: Getting back to Polly, point her in a direction for relief while working on the issues.
A: Colonics.

Q: (L) Well, I would like to have some direction to be able to weather such storms. It is certainly too good a group for such an exaggeration of emotion to be allowed to destroy it!
A: Knowledge protects.

Q: (L) Am I making any mistakes in managing the problem? Am I supposed to manage it?
A: Of course!! If you were not making mistakes, now that would be a problem!

Q: (L) I don’t know what that means. As long as I am making mistakes, I’m okay?
A: Unless you would like to transit quickly to a higher density unilaterally!

Q: (L) What does that mean? I guess, if you don’t make mistakes, you have stopped learning...
A: Because you have finished your lessons... “Time to move on.”

Q: (L) Is there any thing that would help Linda at all with this? What does she need to see, if anything?
A: She will not see it until she stops struggling.

Q: (L) And, knowing her, she is so stubborn she won’t do that until she is laid flat on her back, literally or figuratively. Okay, let’s move on. This Toltec book says that, on June 13, 1994, there was a very significant full moon. Supposedly, on that day, the earth entered a new era... etc. Was this full moon as significant as this guy, Theun Mares suggests?
A: No.

Q: (L) Is it time for people to clearly make a stand for which side they are going to fall on? STS or STO? Is this the big thing going on at this time?
A: No.

Q: (L) What IS the most important thing for human beings to be focusing on in terms of the opportunity of transitioning to 4th density?
A: There is no such thing!

Q: (L) I don’t understand.
(A) There is no such thing as the MOST important. Whatever is important to the individual is important, and it is different with each.
A: Yes, thank you Ark!!!

Q: (B) I’ve always had sounds in my ears and when driving through Louisiana, I was hearing a distinct “tinking” sound. Is there any significance to this?
A: You may hear many things, as you have increased psychic sensitivity in that way.

Q: (L) You should ask about this heart and lung business you were talking about earlier.
(B) I don’t know what to ask.
A: Let Barry ask what he desires to ask, please.

Q: (B) I just didn’t want to clutter up the session with personal issues. Is there something specific that I should be doing, other than the normal routine things, to promote a healthier lung and circulatory system?
A: Diet. Vegetables increase.

Q: (B) That sums it up. Is there any benefit to chelation or peroxide via IV?
A: Chelation is preferable to bypass surgery. Peroxide: topical only, not internal.

Q: (L) I guess you could put it in a spray bottle and spritz it all over after a bath.
(B) Is there any special direction or attention we should be aware of in regard to the investment club or in an overall sense?
A: On track.

Q: (L) Now, we had some guests today who were Scientologists, as I found out. Were they here to spy on us?
A: Maybe in a personal sense.

Q: (L) Is L. Ron Hubbard’s Scientology set up going in the right direction in helping people to become free of the Control System on the planet?
A: Exchange, to a limited extent.

Q: (L) So, it is just an exchange of control system from one to another?
A: Something like that.

Q: (L) Well, Jack pointed out that, at least when Scientology gets done with a person, they are off drugs, off alcohol, they stop beating their wife and kids, and become productive people. That DOES seem to be true! They get free of attachments and improve themselves in many ways. Couldn’t that be considered positive?
A: Sure.

Q: (L) What is the downside of such a positive thing?
A: Decreasing individual discovery.

Q: (L) Now, according to Scientology, an alien group landed in a volcano 70 million years ago, and it exploded and that started the human race, or something like that. Is any part of that accurate? This is the “initial event” that has to be ultimately audited. Could this be symbolic of the descent of man into matter?
A: Up to the individual perceiver.

Q: (L) Why is Scientology so secretive? That is something I don’t care for, though I can mostly understand it.
A: Why is Masonic temple so secretive?

Q: (L) Is Scientology really as aggressively destructive toward people who say things against them as is reported?
A: No.

Q: (L) Did L. Ron Hubbard derive his information by plagiarizing other people’s work?
A: Too general.

Q: (L) Did L. Ron Hubbard participate in sex magic rituals with Jack Parsons and Aliester Crowley?
A: Maybe.

Q: (L) Did he derive some of his information or teachings from these magical sex rites?
A: Maybe.

Q: (L) Was L. Ron Hubbard Greenbaumed?
A: Maybe.

Q: (L) Can sex magic rituals be a source for valid insight?
A: Can be, but so can all others. Insight is open to the individual’s preferences.

Q: (L) What were the conditions surrounding L. Ron Hubbard when he died? Had he really gone mad or was he addicted to drugs?
A: Laura, this is so incredibly unimportant!

Q: (L) Is there any insight in a general sense that a person can gain by studying Scientology and the auditing process? Would it be a useful path to follow?
A: What did we just say?!?

Q: (L) Okay, I get it. Is there anything else we ought to cover that we haven’t though about? Is there anything around the bend that we need to be aware of? Any concerns that we need to pay attention? If so, please indicate.
A: Well, specificity is not in vogue here tonight.

Q: (L) I had all these things backed up to ask for other people. I am just pressing forward on the website, so I didn’t really have a set of questions prepared for the clarification issues.
A: You need not ask about that which you already know. i.e., please no more about the Andromedans!

Q: (L) I know. That stuff is so pathetic. But people get so worked up about those things!
A: So?!? It is not your lesson, so why consult us? They will believe what they wish to believe.

Q: (L) So, are any aliens going to land this year? Are we going to have any major UFO flaps? Is there going to be a big solar flare to fry the planet?
A: Laura, you know better!

Q: (L) I was just joking...
A: Answer: yes, no, yes, yes, no, yes.

Q: (L) Now you are joking! You gave six answers for 3 questions!
A: Good night!

End of Session

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September 23, 2000

Q: Hello.
A: Hello.

Q: And who do we have with us this evening.
A: Kinnemah.

Q: The first question we have this evening is from Jack Williams down in Pinellas County. He was reading about Susan Vitale, who was discussed in the Wave series. He writes: "regarding Susan Vitale, apparently during a bad plane trip, the Cassiopaeans said that she was the one who kept the plane safe although she slept through the trip. Other things pointed to her being a “good guy.” But the conundrum is that her life was falling apart; drinking and association with the black magic people. So, the question is: do you or the C’s think that she is the 4th density Nordic?”
A: No.

Q: Well, the conundrum is that you said that she is the bravest human we ever saw, that “agent Susan” brought down the Outlaw motorcycle gang, and so on. Were all those just clues to enable me to see a certain pattern around her, or were those things about her that are actually true?
A: The truth here lies at another level.

Q: Do you mean that at another level of density she is one of the “good guys,” but at this level of density she was deep in the illusion and being used? Is that what you are suggesting?
A: Yes, but not density, rather it is consciousness at another level of this density.

Q: Was, or is, there any possibility for this other level of consciousness of hers to come through and penetrate into her ordinary consciousness and turn her life around?
A: Yes.

Q: Now, Jack’s next question is: do you have any idea of how many 4th density Nordic types might be on the planet at this time? How many 4th density Nordic STO are on the planet is what I think he is wanting to know.
A: If it is useful to know this, use your own powers of perception to narrow it down.

Q: I would say something like 2 percent of the population of the entire planet.
A: No.

Q: More or less?
A: Less.

Q: Well, maybe that is in the ballpark.
A: No.

Q: You mean it’s so much less we aren’t even in the ballpark?
A: Yes.

Q: Is it possible that there are people on the planet now, who are manifested as 3rd density STS, who at a certain point in time, due to some event, such as the Wave, will activate genetically, so that they will then transform into 4th density STO Nordics?
A: Close, once again, the answer is not so much physicality as it is spirituality.

Q: So, there could be a lot of 3rd density people who are conduits or projections of 4th density STO into this reality?
A: Souls, my dear, it is the souls!

Q: So there are 3rd density bodies, inhabited by 4th density souls, but these bodies, because of the STO honoring of free will, have all the 3rd density limitations for the present?
A: Yes.

Q: Now, Jack writes: L. Ron Hubbard’s service to others is unmatched by any individual or group in recorded history. The words of his own creed are “the being is only as valuable as he serves others. L. Ron Hubbard really has served, and does serve, others, even those you are most concerned about. I can’t tell you how that latter service is exactly applied, as that is confidential data that I have pledged not to divulge. But please rest assured that their needs are more than adequately cared for in a very workable manner. I will, however, give you a big clue on why you have no cause for concern.” And then the clue is:

“any auditing is better than no auditing, and all auditing dissipates actual electrical charge from our collective unconscious, making it all more conscious and directly benefiting those you are most concerned for, and, of course, awakening the collective unconscious helps us all, at least indirectly. Part of the reason you are as bright as you are comes from the millions of hours of auditing that has occurred on this planet for the last 50 years. So, the more auditing they do, the better it is for us.”

(F) Is that suggesting that the auditing has an effect by osmosis, so to speak?
(L) I think it is more like cumulative. My question is, is auditing benefiting the planet as a whole, and is it enabling me to be more intelligent?
A: Maybe.

Q: Is it true that any auditing is better than no auditing?
A: Depends upon the nature of the auditors.

Q: Jack further says:

“Through Ron’s teachings and technology, I and millions of others have shed installed STS obsessions and programs, thus awakening from the madness of nightmares into the warm sunlight of promising new days.”

My question here is: does auditing dissipate electrical charge from our collective unconsciousness making it all more conscious, with the previous conditions understood?
A: Murky.

Q: What do you mean? The question is murky?
A: No.

Q: What is murky?
A: The concept detailed there.

Q: (A) I think that they are talking about the electric charge. First of all, I do not think it applies at all to the concept of collective consciousness, so it’s kind of way of speaking. So, exactly what is meant by this, we don’t know.
(L) Then let’s ask a basic question. Is there an electric charge to the collective unconsciousness?
A: Not exactly.

Q: Jack says here that the STS group, i.e. alien/human consortium I suppose, tried to co- opt Ron’s work by recalling him back into Naval service. Apparently, they had tried bribes, and this didn’t work, so they felt that kidnapping with all its attendant pain, drugs and mind altering tech would work. Was Ron subjected to kidnapping, pain, drugs and mind altering technology?
A: Ron? L. Ron Hubbard was in charge of his destiny. Period.

Q: Was part of the destiny that he was in charge of include the kidnapping, pain, drugs and mind altering technology.
A: That sounds more like the modus operandi of him and his associates at the “company.”

Q: Well. Jack wrote at the end: Ron wanted me to tell you that, while he is little interested in what the C’s think of him, he is terribly concerned about what YOU think. The old rogue always did have an eye for a pretty face with sparkling brown eyes, all framed with salt and pepper hair.
(F) Well, he must be talking about Crystal Gayle because your eyes are green.

[sings] “Don’t it make my brown eyes ... blue...”
(L) Well, it doesn’t make them green.
(F) Is Jack saying he is in contact with Ron?
(A) No, I think that it is part of the higher level ideas in Scientology that they ARE in contact with Ron.
(L) Nevertheless, Jack has read a lot of the website. He says: now that I feel that I have a grounding concerning the C’s wisdom, I’m anxious for some personal tutoring from you if you’re game, etc. etc. He is somewhat concerned about his mortality. He writes that “the light that near death experiencers claim to have seen could be of monumental significance. Make a mistake here, and everything could be down the tubes. Conversely, make the right decision regarding the light, if there is one, and a multitude of shortcomings could be rectified. Please do not take offense, but I believe there is a flaw in your rationale in why one should seek the light. That is not Scientology speaking and I defy anyone to show me anyplace L. Ron Hubbard favors avoiding or seeking the light. Personally, I do not have confidence in either approach. In my current frame of mind I’d just grab the silver thread and gather more data before I did anything else. etc, etc. So, ask the C’s about me. ...Tell the C’s that I have grown to love them and that they are constantly saying things that endear them... etc etc. Then ask them what they think about me. His big concern is, of course, what shall he do when he dies. I didn’t think he looked at all like he was going to check out any time soon, but then we never know from one moment to the next what will happen.
A: Jack is adventuresome, a “free spirit,” and always has been. He will continue to do well in all his endeavors.

Q: His issue is what should one do when one dies.
A: It is not an issue.

Q: Why is it not an issue? Apparently it is a big issue with some folks.
A: When one’s body expires, the path taken is the one prescribed by the individual’s consciousness and experiences/expectations.

Q: Do you think it would be helpful to Jack for me to tutor him as he asks? Aside from the fact that it might sharpen my brain a bit...
A: If you wish to, then there is no harm.

Q: I do feel a rapport there and I do feel that he has some incisive questions. Let me ask this: when Ron died, did HE go into the light?
A: Most probable.

Q: Okay. We have this stuff that Jon Cunnyngham sent us the other day. It is written by Jelaila Starr of the Nibiruan Council. [Groans from group.] Now back off! She might have something useful here! She writes:

“In the early morning of August 27th I awoke to hear a voice in my head saying, “The ingathering has begun”. I looked at the clock to see what time it was. It was 2:22 a.m. Immediately a picture from a childhood storybook of the animals walking up the ramp into the Ark came to mind. I knew this was important because the feelings in my heart chakra were very intense. I sensed that the message came from a collective voice, a voice representing many nations and races. It seemed to me that they were the Elders of each of these races. The name that I get is the Star Elders. In any case, it felt like they were telling me that they had begun calling all the people together. My understanding was that they were referring to the star-seeds, walk-ins and light-workers and those doing the calling were the family member of each race who was in charge of overseeing the path of their people on earth. There was no doubt in my mind that this reference was to a new phase that had begun and I was being requested to deliver that message to the people per my assignment as a messenger for the Nibiruan Council.”

End of quote from Jelaila Starr. Now, is there an ingathering that has begun. I am asking this, not because I am trying to compare information, but because you have suggested on other occasions that different people are receiving different segments of info that needs to be networked. With all due respect to Jelaila, is there an ingathering that has begun in the sense that she has described it, i.e. star elders calling the star-seeds, walk-ins and light-workers to come together?
A: What do you think?

Q: Well, in the first place, I don’t think there is going to be any star elders calling anybody together simply because everybody on the planet is here because they made a free will choice to be here, and everybody is here to do what they are going to do according to their plans, whether they are in cooperation with anyone else or not and don’t need anybody to call them to tell them anything. In the second place, the only ones who would be “calling” anybody to “come together,” would the STS oriented beings because such bidding from a higher density being only CAN come from the STS faction, because the STO faction aren’t going to call anybody to come together because if they want to “come together” with anyone it has to come from inside from free will choice and not because they are called.
A: Yes.

Q: On the other hand, if Service to Others types DO come together, what kind of stimulus for that coming together could, or would, there be?
A: Natural progression.

Q: So, anyway, Jelaila further writes that she is shown a vision:

“There were what I could only describe as cities of light separated by the deep blackness of space. Each one was connected to the other by grids of light. They were in a circle, like a wagon wheel or even better, a spider web. The cities were all connected to a city located right in the center. I saw pulsing lights moving along the grids that connected each of the cities to this city/hub and to each other. The center city was not as fancy or glittery as some of the others, but it did its work providing an integration vortex for the information coming from the higher realms as well as information that was received from the higher realms via people in the other cities. It took this information and placed it into the bigger universal picture showing how each group, each race fit into the greater consciousness in order to foster cooperation and unity. It was the most magnificent thing I think I have ever seen. Next, he told me telepathically that the cities of light were websites on the Internet and that the space I saw was the space that existed between these websites on the Internet. ...So his message was that the ingathering meant that star-seeds, walk-ins and light-workers would be impulsed to either create one of these cities of light/websites or gather in one that was already created. So what would they do in these gathering places and what would the gathering places provide? What is their purpose? The cities of light/websites would be places where the people would receive information, education and emotional/physical support to continue and complete their missions. Earlier in the week I received a flash of information about this while talking with a friend. I was shown the Second Grand Earth Experiment and received a message that said, one of the reasons the second experiment did not succeed is because they could not get the star-seeds to work together and complete the ingathering.”

End quote by Jelaila Starr.
(L) Well, we certainly know that this is true. But, back to Jelaila who writes further:

“Their focus on differences between groups and channeled information and fighting over who’s information was right and who’s was wrong (mainly fueled by the teachers) caused them to resist coming together for the good of all. They could not, would not accept that everyone’s information had value and when interpreted multidimensionally was truth for that group or race and had its place in the bigger universal picture. They did not understand and would not understand the concept of multidimensional truth. This along with a few other challenges culminated in the destruction of the planet and a failure to achieve polarity integration. “

End quote by Jelaila.
(L) It sounds to me that what she is promoting is the support of the idea of obedience to becoming part of a spider’s web of entrapment that doesn’t bother to learn and discern. There is the guilt trip about “they couldn’t get the star-seeds to work together” because they were “fighting over whose information was right who’s was wrong.” My thought is that if you join together with wrong information, you are coming together for the wrong reason!
A: Yes.

Q: My thought is that it is crucial to spend time working to discover what is closest to truth and what is not, learning to discriminate by testing and scrutinizing and learning, is the most useful and worthwhile thing one can do and whoever is talking to Jelaila is basically, in a sort of left hand way, trying to subvert the gaining of knowledge.
A: To an extent.

Q: Was this vision she had one of control or unification?
A: Neither.

Q: Do you have any further comment on it.
A: No need.

Q: Well, she says further: “The cities of light/websites will become the new ‘5D’ communities. All goods and services will eventually be available through them including food, clothing, educational information, etc, and the form of exchange will be a higher dimensional form of barter. Once again, these will not be where you live physically, but where you live interdimensionally. In other words, this new world will exist interdimensionally and you can connect to it at anytime through your computer. Your computer is the doorway into the interdimensional 5D community.” End quote by Jelaila.
(L) I don’t think she has a clue about what 5th density really is.
A: Get those scoops ready for all those barrels filled with oatmeal bran mix for strong bones and teeth needed for the coming of the great messiah of light ,who will arrive upon moonbeamship fight number five at love port seven...

Q: Well, oatmeal bran mix doesn’t make strong bones and teeth... it cleans your colon - oh! I get it! In other words, put on the hip waders because it’s getting pretty deep. Well, okay. She then says:

“There is more to write about this new phase including information about the race of beings who have come to our planet to set up the technology for the new cities. I will write about them, the challenge they are now facing and what we can do to assist them in an upcoming article. For now, I am told that this is the end of the message that they requested I deliver. Once again, I hope it has helped a few more of the pieces of your puzzle come together. Until next time, I remain, your humble messenger, Jelaila Starr, The Nibiruan Council.”

End quote by Jelaila.
A: Ego is a terrible thing!

Q: Well, here is another nifty thing that somebody sent along that raises some issues. I’ll skip over the intro and get to the interesting remark where it says: “And so it is now. There are those upon your planet who would call themselves “human,” but in their actions, thoughts, and words would appear to be some kind of monster—without feelings for others or others’ pain and suffering. The “love quotient” in these individuals is nearly absent, but that is part of their learning, too. Think of the one you called Hitler. Was he enlightened? Was he happy? Was he satisfied with what his life brought him? The answer is clearly “No.” And so the soul of this one you called Hitler is still on the inner planes, mulling over the effects of that life, trying to understand what went so horribly wrong.”
(L) I don’t think this individual really understands the nature of STS, that Hitler wasn’t lacking in the “love quotient” at all. It’s just that his love quotient, which was exceedingly high, was directed toward self. My question is: was Hitler happy and satisfied with what his life brought him?
A: Initially.

Q: And I think that the only thing he might be unhappy about is how he failed to be more successful as a totally dedicated STS being.
A: Yes.

Q: Is he still on the inner planes trying to understand what went wrong?
A: No.

Q: What is Hitler doing right now? Planning on coming back and trying to do it again? [Laughter] Seriously, what is Hitler doing now?
A: Soul in transit.

Q: To where? Does that mean he isn’t at 5th density?
A: No.

Q: He’s already been there?
A: Floater.

Q: What’s a floater?
A: Returnee.

Q: He is floating around and waiting to come into a body?
A: Yes.

Q: You mean he’s already done 5th density and is ready to incarnate again?
A: Yes.

Q: Well, that’s a scary thought! Just so we know, does it happen to be here on earth?
A: Wait and see.

Q: Well, that sounds ominous. Is this something others will know about once it happens?
A: Maybe.

Q: Well, swell! When he incarnates in this next life, is he still sold out to the Dark side as he was in the last one? Or, has he been degaussed and will he switch and match his nastiness with good deeds?
A: Open.

Q: Well, this thing here further says: “You each have incarnated to gain certain understandings, and it is no different for those of the STS persuasion than it is for those of the STO orientation.” I don’t think that this person realizes that there are no STO people on the planet at the present time. At least not enough to factor in for any significance. This is written as though there are actually STO people on the planet. The further remark is made here:

“Those who have positioned themselves as the power elite on your planet have laid grand plans to take over everything and profit from it. However, as much power as they have amassed, it is only based on economics.”

(L) Is the power base of the elite on the planet based on economics?
A: Close.

Q: Let’s continue:

“As long as the economic system operates and people have to depend on it for their needs, the power elite will have an easy time of putting into place their plans for world domination. However, this would be a violation of everyone else’s choices, and this particular time in Earth’s course is all about choices, so the Earth herself will be a major factor in keeping things more equal so that everyone has the opportunity to choose.
There are major storms coming-economic, geophysical, and political. People will be challenged to make a choice: will they act for self-preservation or will they work together to help one another? You who read and cherish these Messages will be spared the worst part of things, as a rather dramatic occurrence will be coming for you in the very near future (that is a relative term, of course, as time has no meaning for us in the higher dimensions-it is always “now.”). In the near future, as you are lifted in your vibration, you will experience yourself as living in a very different kind of reality. It will not be an abrupt shift, but a gradual dawning in your awareness that things are not the same somehow. At the same time, there will be a threshold that can be felt by those who are sensitive to such things, and you will be safely across the barrier that separates the third density from the fourth. Make no mistake: this will only happen for those who are attuned to and aligned with these Messages. The others who have chosen Terra but are not yet awakened will endure the effects of the coming storms as part of their process of personal cleansing and the opportunity to refine their choice for the positive path.”

(L) Well, that’s handy. What this monologue is basically saying is, the conditions are set up so you have free will to make a choice, BUT, basically the choice is their version of the “positive path” or you are screwed. If you listen to and are aligned with their messages, you are going to be just fine, but if not - well, it’s gonzerooni for you, baby! Hasta la vista and all that... It’s like the whole Judaeo-Christian thing: it’s our way or the highway. I wonder if these folks really have a grasp of the concept of free will? Or am I missing something here?
A: You are close enough.

Q: Anyhow, it goes on, blah blah. And it is signed: Amen. Adonoy Sabayoth. We are the Hosts of Heaven.
(F) Of course! How could that possibly come from anyone else!
(L) Well, basically, this thing is entitled “The Coming Storm.” Nothing was definitely said or predicted, but essentially it was hinted that “if you aren’t in tune” with these messages, forget it, buddy! You’re going to get fried. And the way you are going to be fried is that the economy is going to collapse, the sun is going to shut everything down and toast a few folks, there’s going to be wars, crop failures, starvation, the elite are going to be lording it over everyone, and everybody is going to basically go down the tubes - but just for awhile. In the end, it’s a whole lot of words that really says nothing significant. (F) And, we’ve heard it all before, soooo many times! It’s like the guy on the Gong Show whose always going to play his trumpet.
(L) Well, after reading it, I don’t even think I want to ask a question about it. Let’s move along here. We have a question about the Wingmakers information that we pretty much went through and analyzed at an earlier time, but never really brought to the table here. Is the Wingmakers thing a complete hoax as has been suggested by some analysts?
A: No.

Q: Is the Wingmakers presentation a source of good clues if one can figure out how to decipher it?
A: Yes.

Q: Are the clues in the poetry, the pages of philosophy or the art?
A: All.

Q: Is the story about the Wingmakers information true?
A: Some.

Q: Is the Wingmakers' material “left” from the future into the past for someone to find in the present?
A: Close.

Q: Here is a comment from one of our list-members:

“Our reality depends on what we believe to be true. What we believe depends on our perception. Our perception depends on what we look for. What we look for depends on our thoughts. What we think depends on our state of wisdom. Our wisdom depends on our state of awareness. Our awareness depends on our intuition. Our intuition depends on maturity of soul. The maturity of soul depends on the image we represent of the one infinite mind. All images are holograms of this mind. We are duplicates of the original.”

Is this an accurate way of representing our reality?
A: Close. It is one chain of relations, though not all. The dependent relationships are far more complicated.

Q: Now, let me get to MY questions! You once said that the core of DNA is an as yet undiscovered enzyme related to carbon. Is that correct?
A: Yes.

Q: Here in this book it says:

“Evidence is accumulating that only a relatively small portion of the DNA sequence is for so-called structural genes. Structural genes lead to the production of protein. There are an estimated 50,000 structural genes with an average sized of approximately 5,000 base pairs, which then accounts for only 250 million of the estimated 3 billion base pairs. What is the rest of the DNA for? Some of the DNA is so-called repetitive sequences, repeated thousands of times. The function is unknown. The ALU, repeat, for instance, contains over 300,000 copies of the same 300 base pair sequence. Certainly this DNA is not junk and plays some important role in the gene regulation chromosomal architecture or chromosomal replication. Until 1977, it was thought that genes were single sequences of DNA that are coded into RNA and then into protein. However, further study has shown greater complexity. It is now known that there are pieces of DNA within a gene that are not translated into protein. These intervening sequences, or INTRONS, are somewhat of a mystery, but appear to be a very common phenomenon.”

Now, is this thing they are talking about, these INTRONS, are these the core that you were talking about?
A: In part.

Q: What about this ALU repeat with over 300,000 copies of the same base pair sequence. What is it?
A: Tribal unit.

Q: What is a tribal unit?
A: Sectionalized zone of significant marker compounds.

Q: What does this code for?
A: Physiological/spiritual union profile.

Q: Could you define “tribal” for me?
A: You define.

Q: What does the rest of the DNA code for that is not coding for structural genes. What else can it be doing?
A: Truncated flow.

Q: Truncated flow of what?
A: Liquids.

Q: Liquids from where to where?
A: What is your sense?

Q: Well, what liquids?
A: Time for your input.

Q: Do some of these...
A: No. Not alright: we asked you a question!

Q: Okay. Truncated flow of liquids. I’m not even sure what that means.
(A) Maybe something was flowing and something cut it off and stopped it and it cannot be developed. It means that something was cut.
(L) Does truncated flow mean a flow of liquid that has been stopped?
A: Yes. Because of design alteration!

Q: Is this liquid that has been truncated a chemical transmitter?
A: Yes.

Q: And would this chemical transmitter, if it were allowed to flow, cause significant alterations in other segments of the DNA?
A: Yes.

Q: So, there is a segment of code that is in there, that is deliberately inserted, to truncate this flow of liquid, which is a chemical transmitter, or neuropeptide, which would unlock significant portions of our DNA?
A: Close Biogenetic engineering.

Q: I assume that this was truncated by the Lizzies and cohorts?
A: Close, but more likely Orion STS designers.

Q: Okay, can you tell us what this specific liquid or transmitter was truncated?
A: Think of the most efficient conductor of chemical compounds for low wave frequency charge.

Q: (A) Well, gold is one...
(L) Acetylcholine?
A: No.

Q: (L) Water?
A: No.

Q: Saline?
A: Closer. It is a naturally bonding combination.

Q: (L) Well, I’ll have to research it. The fact is, we’ve got 3 billion base pairs... do some of these so-called segments of “junk DNA,” if they were activated, would they instruct chromosomal replication to take place with more than 23 pairs as a result?
A: In part.

Q: Is there anything we can do in terms of activities or...
A: No. Biogenetic engineering.

Q: Was my insight that I had one night that, at some point in time something may happen that will turn genes on in our bodies that will cause us to physically transform, an accurate perception of what could happen at the time of transition to 4th density?
A: For the most part, yes.

Q: Are there any limitations to what our physical bodies can transform to if instructed by the DNA? Could we literally grow taller, rejuvenate, change our physical appearance, capabilities, or whatever, if instructed by the DNA?
A: Receivership capability.

Q: What is receivership capability?
A: Change to broader receivership capability.

Q: (A) That means that you can receive more of something.
A: Close.

Q: (A) It means how good is your receiver.
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What is your receiver? The physical body?
A: Mind through central nervous system connection to higher levels.

Q: So, that is the whole issue of gaining knowledge and developing control over your body. If your mind and CNS are tuned to higher levels of consciousness, that has significance in terms of your receivership capability?
A: Close.

Q: Now, on a couple of occasions we have talked about trees. You have said that the trees would lead me to an answer. Then you made remarks about beechnut, and oaks, and beech and bloodlines and family trees and the Nordic Covenant. Basically, I asked about this Nordic Covenant and you said that I would find the answer, that the trees would lead me to it. I asked what literary source I should go to to find the least distorted source of information. You answered “trees” again. Then, you pointed out the leaves of the trees on this book. Later, when I read the book that was all about trees, it said that there was a need for someone of a certain bloodline to come along and free the dragon spawn.

“None other than she can bring the pryf, or soul, up from the deep, no matter how they may make the serpents squirm. If she can hold her place in the gates of time.”

You answered me “You cannot see?” It also says that this person with this certain bloodline has the duty of creating a bridge between man and the gods to open the doorways of time. You said to me that these things had explanations that were readily apparent. Then, when I asked the question about this book and all the trees in it, that this was a clue given so that I would notice the things in this particular book, you said “certainly.” Now, having gone through all the shamanic stuff, all the information about the world tree, the world axis, and your remarks about building a staircase, which is another variation on the world axis or world tree, and having some kind of mission, and the mission being piercing the spider, which relates again to the world axis and the world tree, which one climbs one step at a time. Then, you talked about Jack and the Beanstalk, which is another example of the world tree. Over and over again we are having all these representations of trees which basically has something to do with some sort of destined action, and it is almost as though you are hinting that some person has to be physically tuned as a transducer of some sort to “stand in the gates of time,” for the rest of humanity. Then, you made the remark recently about lodestar. Well, there might have been a time in my life when I might have thought that it was me who could do something like that. And, if I ever did, maybe it was even ego thinking. However, I am getting a little old for that sort of thing, so I don’t really think that it is my role. But, I do think that there is somebody in the world whose role that is, and I would like to know if that is somebody we are supposed to be looking for, or that we are going to find this person?
A: Perhaps you shall find, or perhaps they will find you!

Q: Well, it kind of takes the burden off my shoulders. I think that somebody who does something like that is never useful for anything again. Somebody who does such a thing is like a sacrifice. They have to give their life up for others to act as this transducer and it fries all their circuits. Can you comment?
A: No.

Q: Am I correct that somebody who does this is basically sacrificing themselves and they get fried in the process?
A: In some instances.

Q: But, it is true that we are looking for somebody who will stand in the gates of time and act as a bridge?
A: Maybe. You shall see...

Q: Okay, I want to find out about this Jack and the Beanstalk and the “giant meaning” you have talked about in the recent past. Not only that, but you have continuously hinted that something is just around the corner, and we are getting to the point where we are thinking that there is just simply not going to be enough time to do anything. Ark’s got 800 pages of Maxwell to go through; he can’t stop working to do that; 800 pages of equations is a lot of work - like months of hard work - and, time is passing - four years have gone by, and zip! I’m not getting impatient here, but time is going and you guys are 6th density and it means nothing to you... but we’re getting older. What we are supposed to do, if we are supposed to do something to make the connection for things to move?
A: You are so anxious. Perhaps you should examine the ground covered, or were you just as close 10 years back?

Q: Well, ten years ago I didn’t wear glasses. I didn’t need ‘em either! I could thread a needle! I mean, this thing called time has a profound effect on physiology whether you guys notice it or not! I know, it’s the soul that counts, but my thought is that we are in these bodies, and it has been subtly suggested that we are in these present vehicles to DO something.
A: But is it not a great adventure?

Q: Well, lately it has been a lot of working and slaving. Working to pay the bills. Then we had to survive this period when the company wasn’t paying our invoices, so we had to borrow on our credit cards, now we have to pay that back AND live at the same time. So, boom! Work, work, work!
A: So maybe you should return to the way things were when we first contacted you?

Q: No! I’m not complaining!
A: Yes, you are, though in a gentle way.

Q: Well, I mean you did so much, you brought us together, did all these things... and...
A: And you think there is no more?

Q: Well, no... but...
A: But what?!?

Q: Well, we’re together and we are happy. And because we are together and happy we feel like we should be getting things accomplished... that there are...
A: And you are not?

Q: Not in a big useful way.
A: So say you. Thank goodness you aren't an expert in this judgement arena!

Q: So, you are saying that, even though it appears to us on the surface that nothing is happening, that at some level, something IS happening?
A: Oh, yeah!! So... Quit yer bitchin.

Q: Is it too much for me to ask for you to give me just one teensy tinesy little hint about what is going on at these other levels that we are not aware of that is so important?
A: You may ask.

Q: Well, I did. Just give me a little bitty hint... a three word clue... Something to calm me down. Something to make me sleep well at night and that will let me know that all is right with the world...
A: RAM.

Q: That’s the clue?
A: Yes.

Q: Was that an abbreviation or a word?
A: Seek and ye shall find.

Q: (A) RAM. Random Access Memory.
A: Yes.

Q: How does that relate to what is going on at higher levels? Does everything we do, or does the movement of the project, depend upon my pursuit of the psychomantium project?
A: A little.

Q: Is part of this waiting process the completion of the Wave series since that has been consuming my life since May.
A: Yes.

Q: I have to say that the writing of this series has been one of the most educational projects I have ever undertaken. Because, in the writing, I have had to comb through the transcripts and have had to explain it to other people and before I can do that, I have to explain it to myself. It has become a profound mind expansion thing...
A: Good.

Q: It’s almost as much fun to be learning the things I am having to assemble as if I were reading it. And I’m the one writing it. It’s really quite amazing.
A: In part you are.

Q: So, I need to finish the Wave. When I finish that, I have a couple of other projects already lined up. If I finish that, the Lord is willing, the creek doesn’t rise, and I manage to keep breath in my body, I might, in another five years get all the material we have so far on the web. But, it is an enormous undertaking. Day and night, either writing in my head, getting ready to write, writing, or going back over what has already been written. Every day. Consumed with it. Last question: Ark has a bug in his tummy and I would like to know if there is anything else we can do than what we have done. We have done two colonics, castor oil packs, fasting, etc.
A: Not in colon. Try liver and bile ducts.

Q: But its on the left side, not the right side.
A: Nerve echoes.

Q: Should he do a liver cleanse?
A: Yes.

Q: The L-glutathione?
A: Maybe.

Q: Elimination of beer?
A: Maybe.

Q: Is it serious?
A: Not especially, yet.

Q: So it could be the liver.
A: Duct stem.

Q: I guess we are done for now...
A: So, goodbye.

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