2004

from Jilaels Website

recovered through WayBackmachine Website

Part 1

Disclaimer

This report is based on the work written by Mr. J. Drendl and Mr. H. Hausdorf of the Ancient Astronaut Society. The information presented herein has been thoroughly researched but does not claim to be complete or accurate.
 

Contents

• 1937: The discovery of the Stonedisks

• 1947: Dr. Karyl Robin-Evans' expedition

• 1968: W. Saitsew & Prof. Tsum Um Nui

• 1995: Ethnological evidence?

1937: The discovery of the Stonedisks

During an expedition to the hardly accessible mountain range of Bayan-Kara-Ula which lies on the borderland between Tibet and China, the Chinese archeologist Chi Pu Tei discovered several cave burial sites which contained strange, only about 4 feet 4 inches tall skeletons, whose heads were oversized in relation to their otherwise slender frame.

In each of the total of 716 graves he found a stonedisk with a diameter of about 1 foot and a thickness of a third of an inch. These disks were engraved with inscriptions of so far unknown origin.

Chi Pu Tei published his findings stating that the skeletons were those of mountain gorillas and that the disks were added by later cultures, which lead to him being ridiculed by the Chinese archeologist community.
 

1947: Dr. Karyl Robin-Evans' expedition

The report

Shortly after World War II the polish professor Lolladoff showed a strange stonedisk to the English scientist Dr. Karyl Robin-Evans.

Lolladoff claims to have bought the disk in Mussorie (Northern India) and that it is supposed to be from a mysterious people called the "Dzopa" who had used it for religious rituals.

In 1947 Dr. Robin-Evans made for the "mysterious land of the Dzopa", traveling through Lhasa (Tibet) where he was granted an audience with the 14th Dalai Lama. On the way to the very inaccessible region to the northeast of the Himalaya, the English scientist was abandoned by his Tibetan carriers - they were terribly afraid of Baian-Kara-Ula - and only with tremendous effort did he manage to reach his destination.

After having won the faith of the locals, Dr. Karyl Robin-Evans was assigned a language-teacher in order to introduce him to the basics of the Dzopa language and so he learned from Lurgan-La, religious guardian of the Dzopa, the history of the Dzopa. Lurgan-La pointed out that they (Dzopa) originally came from a planet in the Sirius-system.

There had been - about 20.000 years ago and again in the year 1014 - two exploration missions to earth. In 1014 the crash took place that lead to the accidents survivors being unable to leave earth again.

Comments

• The Dzopa are often referred to as the Dropa. This is due to the fact that the sound of the second consonant is in between a 'Z' and an 'R'.
• As Tibet wasn't under the rule of China in 1947, Dr. Robin-Evans trip could easily be arranged.
• It is well possible that Dr. Robin-Evans was received by a "lineholder" instead of the Dalai Lama directly, a fact which could be used to verify the correctness of Dr. Robin-Evans' report.
• Dr. Robin-Evans' report dates the crash to the year 1014, all other sources however talk of a crash 12.000 years ago. This discrepancy remains unexplained so far.
• According to Lurgan-La's history the Dzopa would appear to be direct descendants of space traveling "aliens".

1968: W. Saitsew & Prof. Tsum Um Nui

In 1968 the Russian scientist W. Saitsew published a sensational paper which raised a lot of interest in the subject of extraterrestrials visiting earth in the past. Some of the information presented in his paper were based on the work which Prof. Tsum Um Nui did in 1962.

In 1962 Prof. Tsum Um Nui managed to partially decode and translate the stonedisks and published his findings, which were so amazing that the academy of sciences in Beijing at first prohibited their public release.

Prof. Tsum Um Nui's report told the story of a group of beings - called the Dropa - which had crashed their spaceship in the Baian-Kara-Ula mountains 12.000 years ago and who, after realizing their inability to leave earth again, had to put up with a rather hostile environment in order to survive. Prof.

Tsum Um Nui published this report after having received permission of the academy to do so, which earned him the mockery of many an archeologist. Saddened by these events, Prof. Tsum Um Nui emigrated to Japan, where he died in 1965.

Comments

•Tsum Um Nui appears not to be a Chinese name but rather a phonetic conversion of a Japanese name.

•No ethnological minority with the name "Dropa" or "Dzopa" respectively is recorded in china.

1968: W.Saitsew's paper "science or fantasy"

In the borderland between Tibet and China there is the cave region of the Baian-Kara-Ula mountains.

25 years ago, remarkable finds of tablets with writing and hieroglyphics were made there. Several thousand years ago a people whose looks Chinese archeologists are only vaguely familiar with, had been cutting phonograph record like stonedisks out of the hardest granite with a set of completely unknown tools.

The 716 stonedisks found so far also have a hole in their center just as phonograph records do. From there, spiraling out towards the rim, are double-grooves. These grooves of course are not like sound-tracks but rather the most peculiar writing-system which has ever been found in China and possibly even the world. It took archeologists and scientists over two decades to decipher it.

The contents are so fantastic that the academy of pre-history in Beijing didn't want to publish the report of the scientist Prof. Tsum Um Nui at first.

Backed by four colleagues, archeologist Tsum Um Nui stated: "the groove-writing tells of aerial vehicles which, according to the stonedisks, existed 12.000 years ago".

In one place it says literally:

"The Dropa came down from the clouds with their airgliders.

Ten times the men, women and children of the Kham hid in the caves until sunrise.

Then they understood the signs and saw that the Dropa came in peace this time."

Finds of the Dropa and Kham races have been made earlier already in these mountain caves.

Archeologists were and still are unable to ethnologically assign these only up to 4 ft. 4 in. tall humans. There are no similarities with the Chinese, Mongols or Tibetans. One could of course suggest that a few thousand years ago a Kham literate was playing a joke, or that it was mere superstition when he was talking about aircrafts.

But then, what does one do about the statement, all sensations excluded, reported in other groove-hieroglyphics of a great mourning about the own air fleet's destruction during landing in the very inaccessible mountains and the lack of means to rebuild it.

The hieroglyphics of Baian-Kara-Ula appear to be so mysterious to the Chinese archeology that only very careful scientific use has been made of them.

On one occasion a sensational discovery had been made. The disks contain a lot of cobalt and other metals. When testing a disk with an oscillograph a surprising oscillation rhythm was discovered, just as if the disks with their groove-writing had once been charged or had functioned as electrical conductors. Nobody can tell what's behind these 12.000 year old stonedisks.

Assumptions would be too risky and not objective enough. But one is reminded of the ancient Chinese tale of the small and slender yellow people who came from the clouds and were shunned by everyone due to their ugliness - large, wide heads and very slender bodies - and hunted by the "men with the quick horses" (Mongols?).

In fact there had been finds of grave and skeleton remains in the caves from 12.000 years ago and it's also a fact that these finds, classified as remains of the Dropa and Kham race, carried the signs of a small body frame and very large heads. The very first archeological reports tell of an extinct mountain gorilla species. But has anyone heard of ordered monkey-graves and writing-tablets?

In 1940 the archeologist Chi Pu Tei was widely mocked at for making such a claim. But Chi Pu Tei defended himself by declaring that the stonedisks had been added to the caves by later cultures.

This is all rather confusing, but it does not change anything about the hieroglyph mystery of Baian-Kara-Ula, which gets even more complicated by the fact that the cave walls show carved pictures of the writing tablets, in several places the rising sun, the moon and stars in between whole swarms of pea-sized dots that are descending towards the mountains and the earth in graceful curves.

Note: The above text is a translation of the original paper written by W. Saitsew  and has not been altered in any way.
 

1995: Ethnological evidence?

In 1995 there has been a remarkable news report from China: In the province of Sichuan, which lies on the eastern border of the Baian-Kara-Ula mountains, 120 people of a previously ethnologically unclassified tribe have been discovered.

The most important aspect of this new tribe is the size of its people:

No taller than 3 ft. 10 in., the smallest adult measuring only 2 ft. 1 in.!. 

This discovery might be the first hard evidence on the existence of the Dropa/Dzopa  a people whose predecessors are said to have come from outer space.

Part 2

During an expedition to the hardly accessible mountain range of Baian-Kara-Ula which lies on the borderland between Tibet and China, the Chinese archeologist Chi Pu Tei discovered several cave burial sites which contained strange, only about 4 feet 4 inches tall skeletons, whose heads were oversized in relation to their otherwise slender frame.

In each of the total of 716 graves he found a stonedisk with a diameter of about 1 foot and a thickness of a third of an inch. These disks were engraved with inscriptions of so far unknown origin.

Chi Pu Tei published his findings stating that the skeletons were those of mountain gorillas and that the disks were added by later cultures, which lead to him being ridiculed by the Chinese archeologist community.

1947: Dr. Karyl Robin-Evans’ expedition

Shortly after World War II the polish professor Lolladoff showed a strange stonedisk to the English scientist Dr. Karyl Robin-Evans.

 

Lolladoff claims to have bought the disk in Mussorie (Northern India) and that it is supposed to be from a mysterious people called the "Dzopa" who had used it for religious rituals.

 

This plate called 'The Lolladoff plate' is a 12,000 year old stone dish found in Nepal.

It clearly shows a disk shaped UFO (top of pic, hard to see from the angle of the plate however).

There is also a figure on the disc looking remarkably similar to a Grey alien.

Notice the spiral galaxy shape as well, with the alien inside it and the ufo at the beginning of it.

 

Galaxies come in spiral shapes and throughout India,

Egypt and Peru and other ancient sites the spiral shape is very often seen.

This galaxy spiral is probably there to tell us that they flew here from another galaxy,

buy more probably the spiral was their symbol signifying their knowledge of the universe,

as the spiral is the most widely recognizable shape in the universe and in it's creation.

The spiral shape also signifies energy.

 

The spiral is a geometric shape found in many places throughout nature,

in many ancient cultures it is portrayed and given great meaning.

Two of the most popular spiral shapes however not always circular or curved in shape

are the Fibonacci spiral and Golden spiral.

The spiral is also well represented through sacred geometry.

The spiral holds many mysteries, and its shape is universal,

its constant depiction in ancient texts, pictures, and symbology is obviously of great importance.

 

 

In 1947 the Dr. Robin-Evans made for the "mysterious land of the Dzopa", travelling through Lhasa (Tibet) where he was granted an audience with the 14^th Dalai Lama.

 

On the way to the very inaccessible region to the northeast of the Himalaya, the English scientist was abandoned by his Tibetan carriers - they were terribly afraid of Baian-Kara-Ula - and only with tremendous effort did he manage to reach his destination.

 

Image from Evan's book "Sungods in Exile", published four years after he died.

 

 

After having won the faith of the locals, Dr. Karyl Robin-Evans was assigned a language-teacher in order to introduce him to the basics of the Dzopa-language and so he learned from Lurgan-La, religious guardian of the Dzopa, the history of the Dzopa.

 

Lurgan-La pointed out that they (Dzopa) originally came from a planet in the Sirius-system. There had been - about 20.000 years ago and again in the year 1014 - two exploration missions to earth. In 1014 the crash took place that lead to the accidents survivors being unable to leave earth again.

Dr. Karyl Robin-Evans died in 1974.

The above report was released in 1978.

• The Dzopa are often referred to as the Dropa. This is due to the fact that the sound of the second consonant is in between a ’Z’ and an ’R’.

• As Tibet wasn’t under the rule of China in 1947, Dr. Robin-Evans trip could easily be arranged.

• It is well possible that Dr. Robin-Evans was received by a "lineholder" instead of the Dalai Lama directly, a fact which could be used to verify the correctness of Dr. Robin-Evans’ report.

• Dr. Robin-Evans’ report dates the crash to the year 1014, all other sources however talk of a crash 12.000 years ago. This discrepancy remains unexplained so far.

• According to Lurgan-La’s history the Dzopa would appear to be direct descendants of space travelling "aliens"

1968: W. Saitsew & Prof. Tsum Um Nui

In 1968 the Russian scientist W. Saitsew published a sensational paper which raised a lot of interest in the subject of extraterrestrials visiting earth in the past. Some of the information presented in his paper were based on the work which Prof. Tsum Um Nui did in 1962.

 

1962: Prof. Tsum Um Nui

In 1962 Prof. Tsum Um Nui managed to partially decode and translate the stonedisks and published his findings, which were so amazing that the academy of sciences in Beijing at first prohibited their public release. Prof.

Tsum Um Nui’s report told the story of a group of beings - called the Dropa - which had crashed their spaceship in the Baian-Kara-Ula mountains 12.000 years ago and who, after realizing their inability to leave earth again, had to put up with a rather hostile environment in order to survive.

Prof. Tsum Um Nui published this report after having received permission of the academy to do so, which earned him the mockery of many an archeologist.

Saddened by these events, Prof. Tsum Um Nui emigrated to Japan, where he died in 1965.

•  Tsum Um Nui appears not to be a Chinese name but rather a phonetic conversion of a Japanese name.

•  No ethnological minority with the name "Dropa" or "Dzopa" respectively is recorded in China.

1968: W. Saitsew’s paper "science or fantasy"

In the borderland between Tibet and China there is the cave region of the Baian-Kara-Ula mountains.

 

25 years ago, remarkable finds of tablets with writing and hieroglyphics were made there. Several thousand years ago a people whose looks chinese archeologists are only vaguely familiar with, had been cutting phonograph record like stonedisks out of the hardest granite with a set of completely unkown tools.

 

The 716 stonedisks found so far also have a hole in their center just as phonograph records do. From there, spiraling out towards the rim, are double-grooves. These grooves of course are not like sound-tracks but rather the most peculiar writing-system which has ever been found in China and possibly even the world.

 

It took archeologists and scientists over two decades to decipher it. The contents are so fantastic that the academy of pre-history in Beijing didn’t want to publish the report of the scientist Prof. Tsum Um Nui at first.

 

Backed by four colleagues, archeologist Tsum Um Nui stated:

"the groove-writing tells of aerial vehicles which, according to the stonedisks, existed 12.000 years ago".

In one place it says literally:

"The Dropa came down from the clouds with their airgliders. Ten times the men, women and children of the Kham hid in the caves until sunrise. Then they understood the signs and saw that the Dropa came in peace this time."

Finds of the Dropa and Kham races have been made earlier already in these mountain caves. Archeologists were and still are unable to ethnologically assign these only up to 4 ft. 4 in. tall humans.

 

There are no similarities with the Chinese, Mongols or Ribetans. One could of course suggest that a few thousand years ago a Kham literate was playing a joke, or that it was mere superstition when he was talking about aircrafts.

 

But then, what does one do about the statement, all sensations excluded, reported in other groove-hieroglyphics of a great mourning about the own airfleet’s destruction during landing in the very inaccessible mountains and the lack of means to rebuild it.

The hieroglyphics of Baian-Kara-Ula appear to be so mysterious to the Chinese archeology that only very careful scientific use has been made of them. On one occasion a sensational discovery had been made. The disks contain a lot of cobalt and other metals.

 

When testing a disk with an oscillograph a surprising oscillation rhythm was discovered, just as if the disks with their groove-writing had once been charged or had functioned as electrical conductors. Nobody can tell what’s behind these 12.000 year old stonedisks.

 

Assumptions would be too risky and not objective enough.

 

But one is reminded of the ancient chinese tale of the small and slender yellow people who came from the clouds and were shunned by everyone due to their ugliness - large, wide heads and very slender bodies - and hunted by the "men with the quick horses" (Mongols?).

 

In fact there had been finds of grave - and skeleton remains in the caves from 12.000 years ago and it’s also a fact that these finds, classified as remains of the Dropa and Kham race, carried the signs of a small body frame and very large heads.

 

The very first archeological reports tell of an extinct mountain gorilla species. But has anyone heard of ordered monkey-graves and writing- tablets? In 1940 the archeologist Chi Pu Tei was widely mocked at for making such a claim.

 

But Chi Pu Tei defended himself by declaring that the stonedisks had been added to the caves by later cultures.

The above text is a translation of the original paper written by W. Saitsew and has not been altered in any way.