Lord James of Blackheath, Speech on Foundation X
		
		House of Lords, 
	01/11/2010
		
		 
			
			
		 
		
		 
		
		 
		
		Transcription
		
		 
		
		Lord James of Blackheath: 
		
		At this point, I am going to have to make a very 
	big apology to my noble friend Lord Sassoon [Treasury Minister], because I 
	am about to raise a subject that I should not raise and which is going to be 
	one which I think is now time to put on a higher awareness, and to explain 
	to the House as a whole, as I do not think your Lordships have any knowledge 
	of it. 
		
		 
		
		I am sorry that my noble friend Lord Strathclyde [Leader of the 
	House] is not with us at the moment, because this deeply concerns him 
	also. 
		
		 
		
		For the past 20 weeks I have been engaged in a very strange dialogue 
	with the two noble Lords, in the course of which I have been trying to bring 
	to their attention the willing availability of a strange organization which 
	wishes to make a great deal of money available to assist the recovery of the 
	economy in this country. 
		
		 
		
		For want of a better name, I shall call it 
		Foundation X. That is not its real name, but it will do for the moment. Foundation X was introduced to me 20 weeks ago last week by an eminent City 
	firm, which is FSA controlled. 
		
		 
		
		Its chairman came to me and said, 
		
			
			“We have 
	this extraordinary request to assist in a major financial reconstruction. It 
	is megabucks, but we need your help to assist us in understanding whether 
	this business is legitimate”. 
		
		
		I had the biggest put-down of my life from my 
	noble friend Lord Strathclyde when I told him this story. 
		
		 
		
		He said, 
		
			
			“Why you? 
	You’re not important enough to have the answer to a question like that”.
			
		
		
		He 
	is quite right, I am not important enough, but the answer to the next 
	question was, 
		
			
			“You haven’t got the experience for it”.
			
		
		
		Yes I do. I have had 
	one of the biggest experiences in the laundering of terrorist money and 
	funny money that anyone has had in the City. I have handled billions of 
	pounds of terrorist money.
 
		
		
Baroness Hollis of Heigham [Labour]: 
		
		
		Where did it go to?
Lord James of Blackheath:
		
		
		Not into my pocket. 
		
		 
		
		My biggest terrorist client 
	was the IRA and I am pleased to say that I managed to write off more than £1 
	billion of its money. 
		
		 
		
		I have also had extensive connections with north 
	African terrorists, but that was of a far nastier nature, and I do not want 
	to talk about that because it is still a security issue. I hasten to add 
	that it is no good getting the police in, because I shall immediately call 
	the Bank of England as my defense witness, given that it put me in to deal 
	with these problems.
The point is that when I was in the course of doing this strange activity, I 
	had an interesting set of phone numbers and references that I could go to 
	for help when I needed it. So people in the City have known that if they 
	want to check out anything that looks at all odd, they can come to me and I 
	can press a few phone numbers to obtain a reference. 
		
		 
		
		The City firm came to 
	me and asked whether I could get a reference and a clearance on Foundation 
	X. 
		
		 
		
		For 20 weeks, I have been endeavoring to do that. I have come to the 
	absolute conclusion that Foundation X is completely genuine and sincere and 
	that it directly wishes to make the United Kingdom one of the principal 
	points that it will use to disseminate its extraordinarily great wealth into 
	the world at this present moment, as part of an attempt to seek the recovery 
	of the global economy.
I made the phone call to my noble friend Lord Strathclyde on a Sunday 
	afternoon - I think he was sitting on his lawn, poor man - and he did the 
	quickest ball pass that I have ever witnessed. If England can do anything 
	like it at Twickenham on Saturday, we will have a chance against the All 
	Blacks. 
		
		 
		
		The next think I knew, I had my noble friend Lord Sassoon on the 
	phone. 
		
		 
		
		From the outset, he took the proper defensive attitude of total 
		skepticism, and said, 
		
			
			“This cannot possibly be right”. 
			
		
		
		During the following 
	weeks, my noble friend said, 
		
			
			“Go and talk to the Bank of England”.
			
		
		
		So I 
	phoned the governor and asked whether he could check this out for me. 
		
		 
		
		After 
	about three days, he came back and said, 
		
			
			“You can get lost. I’m not touching 
	this with a bargepole; it is far too difficult. Take it back to the 
	Treasury”. 
		
		
		So I did. 
		
		 
		
		Within another day, my noble friend Lord Sassoon had 
	come back and said, 
		
			
			“This is rubbish. It can’t possibly be right”. I said, 
	“I am going to work more on it”. 
		
		
		Then I brought one of the senior executives 
	from Foundation X to meet my noble friend Lord Strathclyde. 
		
		 
		
		I have to say 
	that, as first dates go, it was not a great success. Neither of them ended 
	up by inviting the other out for a coffee or drink at the end of the 
	evening, and they did not exchange telephone numbers in order to follow up 
	the meeting.
I found myself between a rock and a hard place that were totally paranoid 
	about each other, because the Foundation X people have an amazing obsession 
	with their own security. They expect to be contacted only by someone equal 
	to head of state status or someone with an international security rating 
	equal to the top six people in the world. 
		
		 
		
		This is a strange situation. 
		
		 
		
		My 
	noble friends Lord Sassoon and Lord Strathclyde both came up with what 
	should have been an absolute killer argument as to why this could not be 
	true and that we should forget it. My noble friend Lord Sassoon’s argument 
	was that these people claimed to have evidence that last year they had 
	lodged £5 billion with British banks. 
		
		 
		
		They gave transfer dates and the 
	details of these transfers. As my noble friend Lord Sassoon, said, if that 
	were true it would stick out like a sore thumb. You could not have £5 
	billion popping out of a bank account without it disrupting the balance 
	sheet completely. But I remember that at about the same time as those 
	transfers were being made the noble Lord, Lord Myners [former Labour 
	Treasury Minister], was indulging in his game of rearranging the deckchairs 
	on the Titanic of the British banking community. 
		
		 
		
		If he had three banks at 
	that time, which had had, say, a deficiency of £1.5 million each, then you 
	would pretty well have absorbed the entire £5 billion, and you would not 
	have had the sore thumb stick out at that time; you would have taken £1.5 
	billion into each of three banks and you would have absorbed the lot. 
		
		 
		
		That 
	would be a logical explanation - I do not know.
My noble friend Lord Strathclyde came up with a very different argument. He 
	said that this cannot be right because these people said at the meeting with 
	him that they were still effectively on the gold standard from back in the 
	1920s and that their entire currency holdings throughout the world, which 
	were very large, were backed by bullion. 
		
		 
		
		My noble friend Lord Strathclyde 
	came back and said to me that he had an analyst working on it and that this 
	had to be stuff and nonsense. He said that they had come up with a figure 
	for the amount of bullion that would be needed to cover their currency 
	reserves, as claimed, which would be more than the entire value of bullion 
	that had ever been mined in the history of the world. 
		
		 
		
		I am sorry but my 
	noble friend Lord Strathclyde is wrong; his analysts are wrong. 
		
		 
		
		He had 
	tapped into the sources that are available and there is only one definitive 
	source for the amount of bullion that has ever been taken from the earth’s 
	crust. That was a National Geographic magazine article 12 years ago. 
	Whatever figure it was that was quoted was then quoted again on six other 
	sites on the internet - on Google. 
		
		 
		
		Everyone is quoting one original source; 
	there is no other confirming authority. 
		
		 
		
		But if you tap into 
		the Vatican 
	accounts - of the Vatican bank - come up with a claim of total bullion...
 
		
		
Lord De Mauley [Government Whip]:
		
		
		The noble Lord is into his fifteenth 
	minute. I wonder whether he can draw his remarks to a conclusion.
Lord James of Blackheath: 
		
		
		The total value of the Vatican bank reserves would 
	claim to be more than the entire 
		value of gold ever mined in the history of 
	the world. My point on all of this is that we have not proven any of this. 
		
		 
		
		 
		
		(Note: The U.S. Geological 
		Survey estimates that total world gold production, since the beginning 
		of civilization, has been 154,490 metric tons - 4.97 billion troy ounces 
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		Source).
		
		 
		
		 
		
		Foundation X is saying at this moment that,
		
			
				- 
				
				it is prepared to put up the 
	entire £5 billion for the funding of the three Is recreation 
- 
				
				the British 
	Government can have the entire independent management and control of 
	it - Foundation X does not want anything to do with it 
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				there will be no 
	interest charged 
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				and, by the way, if the British Government would like it 
	as well, if it will help, the foundation will be prepared to put up money 
	for funding hospitals, schools, the building of Crossrail immediately with 
	£17 billion transfer by Christmas, if requested, and all these other things. 
				 
		
		These things can be done, if wished, but a senior member of the Government 
	has to accept the invitation to a phone call to the chairman of Foundation 
	X - and then we can get into business. This is too big an issue. I am just an 
	ageing, obsessive old Peer and I am easily dispensable, but getting to the 
	truth is not. 
		
		 
		
		We need to know what really is happening here. We must find 
	out the truth of this situation.