by Michael E. Salla, Ph.D
Kona, Hawaii

from Exopolitics Website


I recently circulated an article describing a secret meeting that allegedly occurred at the New York office of the United Nations discussing UFOs/extraterrestrial life.


The confidential Source (A) for the meeting is presently working as a member of the diplomatic community who relayed this information to two New York based researchers, Shawn and Clay Pickering.


I am pleased to announce that I have received independent confirmation that the alleged meeting did occur on the morning of February 12, 2008 as Clay's and Shawn's source claimed. I was also given information by an independent source (B), who I believe is very reliable, on what transpired at the meeting. It was claimed that a document had been circulated at the meeting, and was now being relayed to key ministries of many nations for further study and comments.

I have yet to witness the document which allegedly refers to an offer by extraterrestrials to help prepare humanity for the disclosure of extraterrestrial life. The meeting also apparently discussed how the UN was being encouraged to take a proactive stand on the release of secret technologies that will enable the development of free energy.


The date 2013 was given as the time when extraterrestrials would unambiguously appear.


This was consistent with the date given in my earlier article. I will share more information on the alleged document circulated at the UN meeting and the independent source (B) confirming the meeting in my next communication on this unfolding UN initiative on UFOs/extraterrestrial life.

What follows next is a report of a further meeting between Clay and Shawn Pickering and their confidential Source (A) regarding the UN meeting on UFOs held on the morning of February 12, 2008. They pointed out that the "unambiguous showing up" of extraterrestrial life - sitting over major cities - would occur in 2017, rather than 2013 as described in the earlier article. The role of religion and population growth was also allegedly discussed, and appeared to raise many issues at the meeting, especially for India.

A significant descriptive term chosen by Source A for the extraterrestrials that would show up in 2017 was "The Controllers." Such a term has clear psychological connotations and was chosen to have a particular effect on the target audience - both UN member states in attendance and the general public to which the information was being leaked. This is a clue that source A is conveying information that has been designed to trigger a certain psychological reaction that influences how issues are framed and discussed.

Another aspect of the following report is that it was claimed that India would have a difficult time processing disclosure of extraterrestrial life, possibly leading to the elimination of Hinduism. This appears inconsistent with India's long tradition of advanced technologies and extraterrestrial life in its Vedic texts, and multiplicity of gods.


If, as the confidential source claims, that Roman Catholics will have an easier time with disclosure due to the belief of "three Gods in one", so too might a religion like Hinduism which has a multiplicity of gods and is very eclectic.

I believe that the mention of India as a country that might experience disclosure problems is likely a fabrication intended to confuse disclosure related issues. When combined with the use of the descriptive term for extraterrestrials, "The Controllers" designed to trigger a particular psychological reaction and lead discussions in a certain direction, the possibility that the information is being relayed through an intelligence agency with expertise in psychological operations cannot be discounted.


In the earlier message (February 13), Clay's and Shawn's confidential Source (A) referred to an Admiral who was the ultimate authority for disclosure of the UN meeting to UFO/exopolitical community.


Is this evidence that the Office of Naval Investigations is involved in the UFO disclosure initiative at the UN, or at least filtering information to be released to the UN and general public?

Most interesting for me was contrasting the agenda of the meeting revealed by Clay's and Shawn's confidential source (A), and what I had been told by my independent source (B) who confirmed the UN meeting had occurred. Source B focused on issues concerning the release of restricted technologies for new energy sources and a document for feedback, while source A focused on population growth and religion. Curiously, source A did not mention any document being circulated to UN member states for feedback.

In conclusion, I am now satisfied that a meeting took place at the UN headquarters in New York of February 12 to discuss the issue of UFOs and extraterrestrial.


What transpired at the meeting itself appears to differ according to the confidential Source (A) Clay and Shawn have cited, and the independent source (B) used to confirm the meeting. The emergence of the alleged document circulated at the meeting and relayed to key ministries of other nations will help considerably in clarifying what was discussed and the accuracy of these respective sources. The possible role of the Office of Naval Intelligence in filtering information that is being related through source A is something that cannot be discounted when considering what was specifically discussed at the UN meeting.


I look forward to reviewing any documents circulated at the meeting to get a better idea of the agenda issues discussed involving the role the UN would play in public disclosure of extraterrestrial life.


----- Original Message ----
From: Shawn and Clay <>
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 9:21:17 AM
Subject: Follow up of source's UFO meeting at the UN

Dear Michael,

This email is a follow up of the UN meeting which took place Tuesday 12, 2008 at 8;00AM. We met our source 7:00PM, Monday, February 18, 2008.


Our source stated the following:

  1. The meeting went well; however, our source left with a degree of frustration.

  2. The meeting covered various topics. The issue of recent UFO sightings was one of many topics discussed.

  3. Security around the meeting was intense.

  4. Everyone was searched. Pens, pins, key chain items were collected and not allowed in the meeting room. There were multiple security checkpoints. UN security cards were confiscated upon entering the room.

  5. 50 to 60 people attended. Everyone was in civilian dress, except one Russian.

  6. Other countries may have had military there, but they came under their respective civilian titles.

  7. UFO topic was addressed. The Russians are very paranoid about the west. Putin is not very trusting. This frustrated our source greatly. Our source believes the Russians will eventually come around; “They always come back to the table.” This mistrust appears to be an ongoing issue between East & West.

  8. The religious implications of contact came up during the meeting. It turned into a 20 minute debate. Our source had to reel it in and refocus the meeting. It seems that the Indians are very difficult to deal with on this issue of the religious implications regarding contact. Population is a major factor in how nation-states deal with a new paradigm. The Indian’s world view has led to an unsustainable food, energy and water demand. Source stated that the world must gets its population and resource use under control. ET will help, but we must show them that we intend to live within our constraints. If we don’t show some semblance of intent, they simply will not help.

  9. Source said the 2013 date of official contact is wrong. That is the date when things heat up. The real date of contact is 2017. It is on this date when very large craft will appear above cities and sit. There will be NO use of force; they will just sit there. Source stated the “Independence Day” film was close, but their ships are not that big and, again, no use of force will occur. Our source cannot reveal his source for the 2017 date. His source is very high up in the government/military/intelligence structure.

  10. Source stated that it is our choice how we embrace this contact.

  11. The ET’s who will arrive on 2017 are referred to as “The Controllers.” They are a “galactic federation” type group; however, “galactic federation” is not the real name for their group—it is hypothetical name used as a reference.

  12. The controllers have a keen sense of freedom and free will. They will not intervene and help humanity if humanity does not show them we want their help. If some entropic event happens (nuclear war), the controllers will not make contact. “This is something they will not tolerate,” our source stated.

  13. The controllers will not give us technology to expand our ability to feed ourselves if we do not recognize the necessity to stabilize our population growth. They don’t want our planet’s population to double because of a technological innovation seeded by them. Our source used India as an example, “India has over 1 billion people. It is clearly a country out of balance in terms of its population size.”

  14. A contentious moment in the meeting had to do with the religious implications of contact. It is this issue which is of most concern. Our source stated that the more secular societies will adjust more easily to contact than the fundamentalist.

    He stated,

    • “The Roman Catholic countries will not have a rough time, except for the population problem; the Roman Catholics already have three Gods in one, so accepting others is not that much of a stretch. The dividing point is going to be the containment of population. The Protestant countries will deal fairly easily with contact. So will countries with indigenous religions connected to nature.

      The Muslim, Hindu, and fundamentalist Christian religions will have the most difficult time, possibly even the elimination of said religions; we can expect mass suicides, social unrest and upheaval. The ETs will help with re-programming and the concept of an inclusive galactic order. However, society will have to step up to the plate to assist - one on one - those people who have shattered belief systems The Chinese will have no problem because of the Buddhist and Taoist influences."

Clay and Shawn Pickering





Update 1

February 24, 2008

from ExopoliticsYahooGroup Website


Aloha, what follows is an email exchange concerning reactions to the UN UFO meetings material. Further information is relayed about the original source for Clay and Shawn Pickering’s material by Robert Morningstar, an editor of UFO Digest.

In peace,

Michael Salla, Ph.D.

“Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it’s the only thing that ever has!”

Margaret Mead


----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Robert Morningstar <>
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 12:22:03 PM
Subject: Re: Attitudes and Reactions to possible UN UFO meetings

Hello, Vince...
Thank you for your post.

It was badly needed to balance the negativism of most of the comments of “know-it-all” and “I-don’t-believe-if-I didn’t-find-it” UFO experts who have posted their comments on UFO Updates and other sites.

I can tell you now that I have been privy to these developments for many months now, having met Shawn and Clay Pickering in NYC on June 24th, 2007, the 60th Anniversary of Ken Arnold’s sighting.

Since that time, I have had the privilege of addressing their NYC Disclosure Group twice and have come to know these two gentlemen very well as friends and confidants. They are honest, intelligent and sincere UFO investigators and have shared much important information with me.

The skepticism and, in some cases, the rancor with which their information has been received is typical of the wariness of many UFO researchers. There have been many caustic comments (none of substance) from certain UFOlogists who jealousy guard their niches, purviews and “spheres of influence” in UFOlogy. Their reactions, in many cases, have been identical to the mass media’s typical reflex arcs for the past 6 decades, which include condemnation, sarcasm, derision and ridicule.

Many critics have objected to Clay and Shawn’s “non-disclosure” of the identity of their source, which is the same criticism that was leveled many years ago at Leonard Stringfield. Yet, as the decades have passed, many of Mr. Stringfield’s revelations have been shown to be correct and the reliability of his “unnamed sources” has been validated. Mr. Stringfield’s need to protect his sources has also been acknowledged.

It is obvious (but, perhaps, this requires a restatement) that once a researcher betrays the identity of a source (when anonymity has been requested), he will not be trusted again, the information flow is stopped, the source is compromised, in some cases, with dire consequences, and source will loose his/her position of access to the information).

I am writing to let you all know that I, along with Dr. Michael Salla, received the same information and have been kept abreast of developments in this disclosure process for many months now. I have met and conversed by phone/email many times with Shawn and Clay Pickering and, although we don’t agree 100% on UFO theory, we do hold many similar views in UFOlogy, one of which is in the field of mass psychology, which is the basis of the “non-disclosure” policy of most governments.

This is something we all know since the revelations of The Robertson Panel and The Brookings Institution white paper written for NASA in the 1960s (On the Peaceful Uses of Outer Space).

I received word of the prospective UN UFO meeting a couple of days before the event and I too was surprised but I should not have been considering the magnitude of events that have transpired since the NPC UFO Conference in Washington, DC on November 12th and the Stephensville UFO flap (which continues even now).

Clay and Shawn first informed me of their contact’s identity and source’s background on June 24th at the UFO Culture of Contact Symposium here in NYC at which time they presented a second copy of the famous SOM-101 (UFO Crash Retrieval Manual), which they allowed me to inspect and which I recognized to be a nearly perfect Xerox copy of an original source document with perfectly aligned margins (no bent or folded pages, no fuzzy type as in the photographed copy which appeared about 10 years ago (when I first read it). This copy appeared to be more detailed than the bare bones version that has been circulating during intervening years.

It was their copy of this document, SOM-101, and the coherent story that they told of how it was acquired by their source that drew me to follow the lead. As stated above, we have had many meetings and exchanges of information (what I like to call “cross-pollination of information”) during the past 8 months, which have given me confidence in the source and the document they presented at the symposium.

On the night of the reported UN UFO meeting, I received a working copy of their SOM-101 (which is distinctly different from the original copied from photographs) and I was briefed on the UN meeting, given the same information that was revealed by Dr. Salla.

Since Dr. Salla had done such an outstanding job in presenting a synopsis of the event, I did not write a report on it. Instead, Dirk Vander Ploeg, the publisher of U.D., and I chose instead to have Dr. Salla’s article republished on UFO Digest.Com.

The reactions of the UFO community came in “hot and heavy,” with many ranting “Rumplestiltskin-types,” jumping up and down into a hole in the ground (figuratively speaking). Some of their comments excoriated Shawn and Clay and their “unnamed source.”

I am writing to tell you all that I have great confidence in Shawn and Clay Pickering; in their honesty, the high quality of their information and the reliability of their source.

One week after the purported UN UFO meeting, I was introduced to and met their “source” in New York City. We spent nearly 2 hours together over drinks and I was able to converse with him at length on his background and previous career as a high-ranking officer in one of the US armed forces and his current position as a diplomat.

His background story and his character (as “an officer and a gentleman”) check out in my book.

The basic premise behind this “secret” UN UFO meeting was a “testing of the waters” in order to prepare for worldwide UFO disclosure through the United Nations. The story was intentionally leaked through the Pickering Brothers in order to evaluate the reaction of the public and the UFO community.

Basically, the US government wants to study the reaction of the public at large and UFOlogists, in particular, to the prospect of full UFO disclosure sometime within the next 8-9 years.

I must say that the reaction of the general public has been promising but that of most UFOlogists (responding in UFO Updates) has been somewhat disappointing although the comments of others, older - more experienced - and having known or lived through the Leonard Stringfield era have weighed in with open minds and more intelligent, less emotional comments.

The UFO Disclosure operation is a very delicate matter, which will take quite a bit of time to achieve while exercising great caution on the part of governments all along the way. The indoctrinated, misinformed or disinformed human mind (such as those of religious fanatics) is a very fragile entity and a very dangerous one when rattled. The public mind must be protected while the work of untangling the lies and cover stories of 60 years is being done. It is very much a “psychosurgical procedure,” excising the lies that have been implanted in the public mind to be replaced by facts as they really are.

During this delicate period, both the public mind and the identity of the source(s) must be protected so that the work of Disclosure can be completed without peril to either the subject or the source(s).

Best regards to all,
Robert Morningstar
Editor, UFO Digest



On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 10:56 AM

<> wrote:


This note is not directed to any single individual who commented concerning possible UN meetings on disclosures. It is the overall response pattern that dismays and concerns. It does not reflect well on the flexibility and adaptive quality of our research community. I do not know the sources and circumstances well enough to either accept or reject the particular accounts. It does need serious discussion however.

However the reports of extreme contentious squabbling, short sighted self interest, religious dogmatic disputations, the refusal to think in other than the most immediate national provincialism, has a strong ring of truth, it reminds one of some UFO conferences.

The comments in this venue, so far, seem embarrassing in their; simplistic, reactionary, rigid categorical thinking, binary logic, and lack of imagination as to the possible stellar neighborhood complexities. It doesn’t seem that most think outside of the most elementary labels and reflexive thinking.

There is a non adult simplistic thought being applied. The statement that visitors are concerned with human freedom and free will choice is greeted with what amount to hoots of ridicule. This is taken as a lazy excuse to deal as mindlessly as mainstream media deals with UFOs in general.

That there may be off world divisions, jurisdictional conflicts, alliances, varied goals and policies, that may be in play seems to be beyond the spectrum of thinking possible. Some factions, may very well have a keen sense of freedom and free will - the traffic here has for the most part avoided population centers in broad daylight, they haven’t overtly invaded, we are not treated as north American Indians were treated, with colonization and conquering.

Instead of a serious analysis of possible ET diplomatic and indications watching activity trend lines that point towards a daylight appearance over populated areas, we have the superficial logic that this would lead to planetary panic. Nonsense Yes, many would be upset and greatly excited. The major talking heads, network anchors, government officials, would all be on the hot seat. but even if a Phoenix ( 3-13-97 ) type event took place, at high noon, we’d manage, we will manage. The skeptics would hide out, churches would be packed as much as bars, and there would be a mass sell off on Wall St and .elsewhere.

We did not go from covered wagons, sailing ships and feudalism, and mass illiteracy without having the planetary potential that attracts the visitor traffic from stars likely many parsecs distant. Ape men do not build fusion weapons and electrogravity drives. (go look into what is going on at the Warton Special projects Site in UK or flying out of N.Edwards, skeptics go look before dismissal. Lockheed Martin and BAE are up to something big, they’ve spent billions doing so. )

This ET shock and awe show is, to this observer the catalyst that will be like a planetary espresso caffeine jolt, that will finally begin a global discussion on our pig headed plunge into ecological disasters, carrying capacities and finally prod leaders and legislatures to thinking about more than the next election. Forums such as Davos will transition from polite speeches, to intellectual full scale brawling hammer and tong, dialogue, and the real options on the table.

What is continuing to happen in Texas skies, and elsewhere is a giant clock ticking down to an “in your face” daylight event, one that is simply the natural incremental direction things are going. One of the Phoenix or recent Texas leviathans will be hanging over Manhattan long before 2017, or 2012 based on trend lines.

The Noon day sun shining on a 1,000 ft long cylinder or chevron hanging over lower Manhattan will cast a mocking shadow on the refusal on many forums to see this step. For note, the UFO waves of the 40’s and 50’s came as a surprise, so too, will be the next step.

Non interference policy? That is a bad joke, ever since the 40’s and 50’s crash retrievals, our governing circles have been fundamentally directed and interfered with. A shock and awe step is simply the next, logical step. Snooze on, those who think the status quo of ambiguity will go on forever. You’ll awake to seeing news staff literally running in the news centers, and five hundred or a thousand ships hanging over every major city on the planet. Soon. Tomorrow, or a year, or two, or three, at the most of tomorrows.

For the record, no equivocation, this is our future. For it is this observers judgment, that our destiny is not for our planet to stumble and bumble without outside major effect in perpetuity.

Perhaps even some gray skinned analyst, is muttering, telepathically, “damn it, some human is going to spoil this yet - it’s supposed to be a surprise, for maximum growth maturity result “.

Vince White

FEB 23 2008