by Phillip Corso, Jr.

January 2008
from ExopoliticsJournal Website





Extraterrestrial Civilizations and World Peace Conference
Sponsored by the Exopolitics Institute
Kailua-Kona Hawaii
10 June, 2006

Transcribed by Gesan LahMan.


Continued from vol. 2, no. 2 [World Peace and Dawn of a New Age ].




PC = Phillip Corso
Q = audience questioner

Q: So, I think in Exopolitics, if you can project into the future, after each of the world civilizations rises and falls, and I donít know how long America can stay at the peak of the top like weíre in now.

PC: Oh, weíre past it. A democracy has never lasted over 200 years.

Q: Right. If you look at history, all the Roman empire, the peace of Rome and Britain, and so forth, there is going to come a time when it is replaced. And if India and China and other countries emerge, and itís economically advancing in that direction, these ancient scriptures will come back again. Thatís what I wanted to know what religion Ö.

PC: My father, every night when he would to sleep, when he was living with us in the last 3 years, I would go in to wake him up. And heís wake up with a smile, a kind of strange smile on his face. And I said, ďOh, youíve been at it again? Whereíd you go tonight?Ē


My father was one of the number one [class] Ė in fact, he helped Hal Puthoff design remote viewing. He was very strong at that. Extremely strong at that. So with being an intelligence officer, it helped a lot. He did a lot for peace. And, and, and he did it mentally, with his mind. A lot for peace. Yes, he was the strangest man I ever knew.

Q: OK, Iím going to put myself on the spot here a little bit too, with youÖ. I think you hit the nail on the head when you said itís all happening simultaneously. I think thatís where the confusion comes because we try to interpret everything happening simultaneously in order of that information along the timeline.


And that, basically, what I was told is that we take in algorithms and we convert, in our brain, those [confusion of thought] Ė this information field, and we take in algorithms and we convert that into what we consider 3, uh, 4th dimensional space, and that these other off-world Beings are doing the same thing but they create other 4th dimensional space through these algorithms, so itís not really dimensions at all.


At least thatís what I was told. I donít know what your idea about that is. But I think, I think the confusion that comes in is, weíre trying to discu- Ö Ö. We got one foot in one world, weíve got another foot in another world Ö.

PC: Thatís a good analogy. My father used to say that about me. He said I was really stuck ďover thereĒ.

Q: Yeah, and thatís why itís really confusing, you knowÖ. Youíre Ö the constantly occurring space that weíre in, youíre talking to your father because he still exists.

PC: Yes.

Q: Simultaneously, at the same time, youíre trying to talk to people here that, that are in 4th dimensional space in terms of 4th dimensional space so, we go back and forth and itís confusing sometimes.

PC: Itís confusing all the time. Yes.

Q: All the time. Thatís better. It comes and goes. It comes and goes with me. But, you knowÖ.

PC: Well, weíre limited Beings. And because weíre limited, when you do infinity [i.e., the infinity symbol], thatís why it lays sideways. Itís a crazy eight.

Q: Yeah, but this is like, the way I understand it, itís like weíre in one great thought thatís existing at all t-, e-eexisting Ö.

PC: Well, I might be able to help.


Q: OK.

PC: Ö. If the tree falls in the forest and thereís no one there to hear it, is there any sound? Itís irrelevant. It doesnít matter, you know. Who cares? Ö If thereís no humans, the universe is not aware of itself. So it doesnít matter that it exists. So, do we matter? Youíre darn right. We matter a lot! Ö Are you supposed to know how powerful a Being you are? You, you, youíre god!


And that, thatís who you are. And, and, and do you realize that? No, we donít realize that. And this fellow who was channeling last night [Daryl Anka channeling Bashar], actually he made a lot of sense and it scared the heck out of me! [audience laughter]

PC: But, yeah, thatís basically Ö I mean thatís, thatís what Ö. This is not me. This is Edgar Cayce speaking, you know. And, and if you read on him, I think he has one of the best analogies of what existence is, in one of his books, than anything there is. Basically thereís more pins Ö. Thereís more, atoms on a pinhead than there are grains of sand in the world. Thereís a huge number.


A gagon [spelling uncertain] is a one inch letter around the circumference of the Earth, squared. Square that! Thatís a big number, you know. Now, thereís something more than there Ö even of that, and thatís time. Time is infinite. But, thereís only so many souls. You create so many souls. So, what happens as those souls reincarnate? Each one has the chance to play number uno.

Q: Ö I think whatís happening to us is, is that, we that have created the mess, if you look at it on a timeline, we who have created this mess, we have all had, Ö. participated in the creation of the problems that we have today, but in prior lives Ė if you want to do it out Ė and so weíre back now, to correct the imbalance so that can mo- Ö all move forward, both ourselves here and the off-world folks because weíre not separate from themÖ.


And that weíre executing a plan Ö. Weíre executing a plan in which people have been imbedded all throughout society and theyíve been nourished as, as in- Ö from, from childhood, from birth to death to take on certain roles, and, within this overall plan. And thatís whatís happening to you and I and whatever, is we integrate ourselves into the woodworks.

PC: My father, he made me really angry a lot of times because he had all these corporations that just, you know, that he funded and such. And I said, ďWhy do I have to work as a grease monkey? Why canít I go to work for Northrup? Why canít I go to work here, Dad?" Because he never let me fit into the norm. He didnít want me in anything that Ö. I didnít even finish high school. He didnít want me educated by the system. And he wanted me to stay out of the system because he knew I had, he knew I had certain gifts, and he didnít want these contaminated. Now, children have imaginations. Uh, those arenít imaginations, those are gifts, and they get contaminated from within our society.

So, youíre right. We, weíre told to think within the box. And we do think within the box. And our system of schooling needs changed, and educated. Iím not saying we need, what is it, Harry Potter. We donít need Ö. By the way, I was born on Halloween, and my sister was born on Halloween six years later. And uh, boy, did that mess me up as a kid, let me tell you! And then my dad would show me the two Xís in my hand and he said Ö you know.

PC: But it did teach me to use this [indicating the brain]. And, if you use this and you exercise it and you Ö. But, you know, donít go crazy on it! Donít, donít start thinking that ETís going to come here and save us because I donít believe he is. And my fatherís exact words were, and I hate to say this, but Iím just going to say it the way he said, ďWeíre too rotten to save!Ē Thatís the way he thought.

Ö. Hereís a man that never said a cuss word, never laid a hand on me, I mean, he was too good for his own good, but yet he, he sees dead people in ways and such like that, and, and had tremendous mental abilities and such. And yet, he sees Ö. Of course maybe thatís because he was a, a colonel in the military and he saw the negative side of it, you know. I hope he was wrong. But he also died under a lot of adversity. When my father passed away we were being sued by the book, we got no money from the book. It was all [stolen].


And, and it was a really a very bad time. Ö. When Iíd hear my dad say that, I considered the times that he said it. I donít think he really meant it. And how can you when he loved my 3 boys, you know, and Iím sure he would want the best for them. And thatís why the book was written, by the way. It even says that in The Day After Roswell.


He felt that young people could handle it, by knowing the truth.

Iíve got to tell you, real quick, about something. He would go into the Pentagon. And he says there was a room that they would go into, like a jail cell, and, he says, you werenít allowed to take anything into the room. No papers, no pencils, nothing to record anything whatsoever. And you go in there, and you come out, and whatever question you asked would be answered, and youíd come out with that question.


And I asked him, ďWas that ET in there?Ē He never answered me. He would never say a word. I guess it was classified, so, you know, a military man would not say anything. I thought it was ET in there. So, I just brought that up real quick to let you know that maybe there was one in the Pentagon. I donít know.

Voice in audience: True!

PC: You think so?

Voice in audience: Iím hearing them saying that.

PC: You hear them say that? Yeah. Well, he talked about it quite often. He talked about a lot of stuff that, that, uh, is not in the books. And what I hope to do is modify this book [Dawn of New Age] a little bit. Maybe a section in the back, that Iím speaking of now, of our conversations when I used to sit on the floorÖ.

Q: OK. Uh. You had said that you actually connect into the planes and the computers and that theyíre pretty much alive.

PC: Oh, yes.

Q: What do you do with a car that just keeps breaking? [audience laughter] I mean, you know, I really am serious about this because Ö.

PC: Who owned it before you?

Q: An x-boyfriend [laughing].

PC: Well, there you go! [audience laughter] Get a new car!

Q: Well, Iím selling it for himÖ. and it keeps breaking.

PC: Give it back to him!

Q: Heís not here on the island Ö. But, Iím just curious.Ö How you can connect with them [mechanical devices] to find out how to release some of that old energy, or whatever?

PC: Well, I worked for a company called Larry Smith Electronics and I finally quit because I was so frustrated because every time I would go in to fix an autopilot, and Iíd say, ďOK, Iím going to put the 183IC in itĒ, and Iíd plug it in that the thing would work. Always the same IC, you know, and the odds are a million-to-one that itís not the same IC each time. So Iíd say, ďHow do I write this up?Ē So, I would write it up.

Do I have that ability? Yeah. I donít know where it comes from, you know. It comes from my father. He did not have that ability. H- his was different, you know, with photographic memory and such. But, yes, I had that ability. So I donít know if you can do that, uh, if you learn to do that, you know. So, itís not something Ö.

Q: Well, Iím very intuitive, but Iím having the hardest time with this car Ö.

PC: Well, love it! Itís hard for a woman to love a car. I guess they can. Polish it! Iím serious!

Q: I did! I did polish it.

PC: OK. I donít know. Iím not saying that every machine is alive. Iím just saying that there are people that have connections with machinery. And my connections are not with every machine. But when I build an airplane, itís definitely connected there. I donít want to turn it over to the owner. And, when I do turn it over to the owner, he better treat it nice! We, weíve taken many of our planes and weíve resold, you know. And, I still keep in touch with them. Theyíre my children. Yes, Paula.

Paula [Harris]: OK, what I wanted to say was, we really loved your dad, in Italy, as you very well know. And before he died he said that he would Ö to leave a chair empty in the front row, uh, because he would always be present whenever we talked about disclosure -- and Iím going to call it disclosure because thatís a common term.


And, and Iím glad you mentioned the reason why, because everybody thought he had different reasons, and that its for someone to come close like that. He, he said it was for your boys and for the grandchildren to know Ö and that they could handle it. What advise would you give to, to us, especially to us journalists who keep working on supporting your dadís testimony, by bringing forth other people to support his testimony, because obviously Colonel Corsoís testimony was not enough?

PC: Well, thatís true. Itís a collective effort, which youíre doing a very good job of, Paola. Youíre one of the only, you might say, people in this field that Iíve ever met - Iím sure thereís others but I donít every one - but youíre one of the ones that report, and without an opinion. And I think thatís very good because if we keep that up we canít get lost in crazy stuff.


And thatís up to each and every person here to, to weed out the crazy stuff, because if you do, youíre going to go out the branch of that tree, and youíre going to have to come back, and itís going to take too many years. We donít have that many years to go out on this crazy stuff. But how to do we keep my Ö. I guess the essence of the question is, is, how do we keep my dadís legacy alive, and, and, what do we do to Ö.

Paula: And how do we find the other people to come forth and support what he Ö. Obviously he, there were other people around him. He wasnít the only one.

PC: Well, you have a gentleman sitting right there [Paul Hellyer - pictured with Phil Corso].



Paula: Yes. I know.

PC: And, and, and I, you know, itís magnificent, because that age there, they, you know, Ö and Iím getting there, you know. We have to do something. Timeís running out, and itís running out quick! And how do you get them to come forward? You get them to come forward maybe with this book, you know [Dawn of a New Age]. Now Iíll tell you right now Ė my wifeís going to whip me with this one! I donít need the money from this book. Iíll give it all away. Iím just doing this for everyone. I hope it can bring Ö. [moderator reminding Phil Corso of the time]

PC: Five minutes. OK . I hope it can bring some peace to the world. Now, Dr. Steven Greer, heís looking a new world - itís right in here [Dawn of a New Age]. The technology thatís in here, if we could only apply it. And I mean, nuke plants that are as big as that table that will run for 5 years unmanned in Alaska, and produce water thru reverse osmosis, for 5 years without being touched.


Now, we hear about the atomic bomb. Dad says in here, we are lost in the nuclear age, because thereís good nuclear stuff. He would go into rooms, he speaks about, and eat meat thatís 5 years old! He and General Trudeau. And thereís people starving in the world because of no refrigeration?! Come on! In Switzerland thereís light bulbs that will glow for the next 50,000 years! And theyíre bright enough to read by, and go by, and theyíre not harmful. But yet theyíre, theyíre treating them.

So, so what has happened to us?! Because we have an atomic bomb weíre going to kill all nuke away? You donít know. He says itís wrong. We have it right here! Steven Greer just doesnít know where to look, and I already told him that. Look here [Dawn of a New Age], thatís all.

Q: What you do is you connect innately with the molecules of the airplanes. You can talk to them. I talk to my car all the time, beloved molecules of my car. I donít talk to the car. I talk to the individual parts,

ďBeloved molecules, I thank you. I am grateful for you traveling with me. I clear you of everything that does not need to be in this car. Thank you, molecules.Ē

And you can connect to any computer in this way. Start talking to your equipment. You too! [laughing] Thank you.

PC: Well, machinery is, is wonderful, but, you know, it has a lifetime too, and weíre going to replace it with new machinery, and later technology. And this is going to keep happening. So we reach a point pretty soon that the technology is probably as smart as us.

Thatís one thing Dad says in the book, too. When he and General Trudeau released the first chip, they also said that they were afraid because they didnít know where that was going, where that was going to take us Ė or take over us. And they, they were smart enough at that time, before they knew really its, its limitations of what it possibly could do. So yeah, maybe evolution is, is a machine. Who knows. Yes, míam.

Q: Well, on that note I was wondering if, uh, you or your father or anyone you know of, has any, um, experience of anyone traveling here without a machine? And, are any of your technologies being developed for us to travel, without our bodies, without machinery?

PC: I donít think so. But, but I donít know. That, thatís a tough one. Sure. You know, you, you want to travel to the end of existence? You can do that in your minds instantaneously, you know, because you can visualize what it looks like. Thereís nothing faster than thought. But I donít think that we know how to use it yet, and harness it properly. Will it ever happen? Maybe.


Itís science fiction now, you know. But, Dad also speaks in the book - almost every question asked tonight is in the book. And he also speaks of mental Ö certain frequencies, that he learned, and these frequencies are in the book. He talks about them. And he talks about interfacing with machinery. And itís been done for a long time, because the EBE did it. The Rowell craft was an interfaced machine. Ö

When Dad was dying, he came back with a gallon of blood in his stomach, on an airplane Ö. Doctors said he [will] be dead by the next morning. In walked Dr. Roe [spelling uncertain] Ė Iíll say his name now Ė and he had a little machine. And the little machine opened up the chest Ė and there were 2 other or 3 other doctors involved and they said he would be dead by the morning.


They opened up his chest, put the little machine in there, and thereís no bleeding. And the machine, Dad asked for the machine, through Dr. Roe. Pretty interesting, you know. I have my ideas of what the machine is and where it came from. But the good doctor down in Palm Beach has the machine still today. If you go to him, heíll probably deny itÖ. Who knows. He said he got it in Russia. He picked it up in a shop in Russia. [audience laughter]

PC: But heís also quick Ö. Dr. Roe, real quick, he quit his practice to do cloning that was led by my dad Ö Yes?

Q: Hi. I just wanted toÖ engage you a little bit about Ė I thought I heard your comment that we would not be able to go to the future, um, that weíre not able to go to the past, but in David Bohmís Implicate-Explicate Order, weíre infolding and unfolding all the time, I mean, my understanding is, 14 times a second.


So, if itís possible with our mind, through remote mind, all I think we really need is knowledge. And through that knowledge, if we have ideas of coordinates, ideas of potentials, ideas of realities, that, would it not be possible, with everything self-contained, as with this womanís con-, or idea about, you know, we donít need external technology. I mean, from what you understand, would, could you see your way to that potential?

PC: Well, first of all, why do you want to do that, you see? Again, benevolent. You, you have no business going back to the past, or me or anybody like that, or going to the future, unless you have a purpose. Now thatís what time travel is. You cannot time travel without a benevolent purpose.

Q: But what about discovery? Just discovery? For the adventure?

PC: No, no. No, you canít screw up the universe for discovery. No. Iím sorry. You see, I told you that when I was at the table with these religious Ö. Thatís what the Air Force is bewildered with now. They thought they were hot shots, and were going to time travel all over the place. No. Theyíre bewildered. They have no purpose for it. Whatís the purpose? To go back and take care of a country that, uh, you know, I mean, come on Ö to start a war? Thatís not a benevolent purpose. So you have to have a reason for it. Youíre going to correct something that was wrong back then? Possibly. I donít know, you know. But I do know this, and Dad told me, ďThe purpose has to be benevolentĒ.

So, you know, there, there Ö. If, if a meteor hits tomorrow, our planet, and destroys it, we would certainly have a reason to leave, wouldnít we? Thatís a benevolent reason. So that might be possible, during a time like that Ė just a quick example. [moderator indicating time]

PC: Last one. Yes, sir.

Q: Yes, Phil. My question is, the material in the book, that youíre going to have published [Dawn of a New Age], will it be the complete material, not, unedited Ė all of the material that he has?

PC: Yes. This book right now is in my dadís Ö well, some of it is typed, but most of it is in his original handwriting. His handwriting looks like a computer handwriting. Itís printing. And itís in his original. And thatís the way we want to do it, unedited. If I do anything, it will be in the back of the book, and it will say, big dummy me is saying these things, you know, not my father. So, yes, weíre going to leave this alone. And, and ,uh, you know, uh, I donít know if its ever been printed that way before, but maybe weíll photograph it just like it is. I think each one of you will probably enjoy reading it just the way it sits.

I was going to print up a chart, back here Ė an intelligence officerís chart on the EBE, and um, and hand it out to you all. If we can find a printer, Iíll do it tomorrow. And it just shows the logic of why the EBE can travel in space and why we canít. and it goes through a chart of what we have and what they have, you know Ė a comparison chart. Iíll see if I can get it printed up for you guys and hand it out tomorrow.

Q: Oh, thatíd be great. [audience applauds]

AW [Angelika Whitecliff]: We want you to stay here a minute and talk about your meteorite.


AW: Weíre actually not quite done yet with Phil, because Phil has made one other exceptional contribution to our conference. And you might have been wondering why we brought in a table over here on the stage, and what we have sitting in that glass case. Well, it is an extraterrestrial object. It is a meteorite, and itís something very, very special. Uh, the energies that it brings to this conference gives all of us an opportunity to experience extraterrestrial, right here, right now.


And so, this is a legacy, really, that, that, uh, Phil has offered to us, for this conference, and to be present for future conferences here in Hawaii, to offer everyone the opportunity to experience extraterrestrial first-hand. And so, maybe, uh, Phil could tell us a little bit more about this meteorite, and uh, the significance of it.

PC: It would be a pleasure. Yes. Well, first of all, it began very negative. It came from demand, from the White House, who told me to shut up, as a gift. [laughter]. So, weíre going to turn that around. OK? Weíre going to make it very positive. The unit itself, about 3 months ago, my middle youngest son, Andrew Ė and heís mentioned in the book too. Isnít that weird tonight? Andrew wanted it.


[The lecture ends and the viewing of the meteorite begins.]