PC = Phillip Corso
Q = audience questioner
Q: So, I think in
Exopolitics, if you can project into the future,
after each of the world civilizations rises and falls, and I don’t
know how long America can stay at the peak of the top like we’re in
now.
PC: Oh, we’re past it. A democracy has never lasted over 200 years.
Q: Right. If you look at history, all the Roman empire, the
peace of Rome and Britain, and so forth, there is going to come a
time when it is replaced. And if India and China and other countries
emerge, and it’s economically advancing in that direction, these
ancient scriptures will come back again. That’s what I wanted to
know what religion ….
PC: My father, every night when he would to sleep, when he was
living with us in the last 3 years, I would go in to wake him up.
And he’s wake up with a smile, a kind of strange smile on his face.
And I said, “Oh, you’ve been at it again? Where’d you go tonight?”
My father was one of the number one [class] – in fact, he helped
Hal Puthoff design remote viewing. He was very strong at that. Extremely
strong at that. So with being an intelligence officer, it helped a
lot. He did a lot for peace. And, and, and he did it mentally, with
his mind. A lot for peace. Yes, he was the strangest man I ever
knew.
Q: OK, I’m going to put myself on the spot here a little bit too,
with you…. I think you hit the nail on the head when you said it’s
all happening simultaneously. I think that’s where the confusion
comes because we try to interpret everything happening
simultaneously in order of that information along the timeline.
And
that, basically, what I was told is that we take in algorithms and
we convert, in our brain, those [confusion of thought] – this
information field, and we take in algorithms and we convert that
into what we consider 3, uh, 4th dimensional space, and that these
other off-world Beings are doing the same thing but they create
other 4th dimensional space through these algorithms, so it’s not
really dimensions at all.
At least that’s what I was told. I don’t
know what your idea about that is. But I think, I think the
confusion that comes in is, we’re trying to discu- … …. We got one
foot in one world, we’ve got another foot in another world ….
PC: That’s a good analogy. My father used to say that about me. He
said I was really stuck “over there”.
Q: Yeah, and that’s why it’s really confusing, you know…. You’re …
the constantly occurring space that we’re in, you’re talking to your
father because he still exists.
PC: Yes.
Q: Simultaneously, at the same time, you’re trying to talk to people
here that, that are in 4th dimensional space in terms of 4th
dimensional space so, we go back and forth and it’s confusing
sometimes.
PC: It’s confusing all the time. Yes.
Q: All the time. That’s better. It comes and goes. It comes and goes
with me. But, you know….
PC: Well, we’re limited Beings. And because we’re limited, when you
do infinity [i.e., the infinity symbol], that’s why it lays
sideways. It’s a crazy eight.
Q: Yeah, but this is like, the way I understand it, it’s like we’re
in one great thought that’s existing at all t-, e-eexisting ….
PC: Well, I might be able to help.
Q: OK.
PC: …. If the tree falls in the forest and there’s no one there to
hear it, is there any sound? It’s irrelevant. It doesn’t matter, you
know. Who cares? … If there’s no humans, the universe is not aware
of itself. So it doesn’t matter that it exists. So, do we matter?
You’re darn right. We matter a lot! … Are you supposed to know how
powerful a Being you are? You, you, you’re god!
And that, that’s who
you are. And, and, and do you realize that? No, we don’t realize
that. And this fellow who was channeling last night [Daryl Anka
channeling Bashar], actually he made a lot of sense and it scared
the heck out of me! [audience laughter]
PC: But, yeah, that’s basically … I mean that’s, that’s what …. This
is not me. This is Edgar Cayce speaking, you know. And, and if you
read on him, I think he has one of the best analogies of what
existence is, in one of his books, than anything there is. Basically
there’s more pins …. There’s more, atoms on a pinhead than there are
grains of sand in the world. There’s a huge number.
A gagon
[spelling uncertain] is a one inch letter around the circumference
of the Earth, squared. Square that! That’s a big number, you know.
Now, there’s something more than there … even of that, and that’s
time. Time is infinite. But, there’s only so many souls. You create
so many souls. So, what happens as those souls reincarnate? Each one
has the chance to play number uno.
Q: … I think what’s happening to us is, is that, we that have
created the mess, if you look at it on a timeline, we who have
created this mess, we have all had, …. participated in the creation
of the problems that we have today, but in prior lives – if you want
to do it out – and so we’re back now, to correct the imbalance so
that can mo- … all move forward, both ourselves here and the
off-world folks because we’re not separate from them….
And that
we’re executing a plan …. We’re executing a plan in which people
have been imbedded all throughout society and they’ve been nourished
as, as in- … from, from childhood, from birth to death to take on
certain roles, and, within this overall plan. And that’s what’s
happening to you and I and whatever, is we integrate ourselves into
the woodworks.
PC: My father, he made me really angry a lot of times because he had
all these corporations that just, you know, that he funded and such.
And I said, “Why do I have to work as a grease monkey? Why can’t I
go to work for Northrup? Why can’t I go to work here, Dad?" Because
he never let me fit into the norm. He didn’t want me in anything
that …. I didn’t even finish high school. He didn’t want me educated
by the system. And he wanted me to stay out of the system because he
knew I had, he knew I had certain gifts, and he didn’t want these
contaminated. Now, children have imaginations. Uh, those aren’t
imaginations, those are gifts, and they get contaminated from within
our society.
So, you’re right. We, we’re told to think within the box. And we do
think within the box. And our system of schooling needs changed, and
educated. I’m not saying we need, what is it, Harry Potter. We don’t
need …. By the way, I was born on Halloween, and my sister was born
on Halloween six years later. And uh, boy, did that mess me up as a
kid, let me tell you! And then my dad would show me the two X’s in
my hand and he said … you know.
PC: But it did teach me to use this [indicating the brain]. And, if
you use this and you exercise it and you …. But, you know, don’t go
crazy on it! Don’t, don’t start thinking that ET’s going to come
here and save us because I don’t believe he is. And my father’s
exact words were, and I hate to say this, but I’m just going to say
it the way he said, “We’re too rotten to save!” That’s the way he
thought.
…. Here’s a man that never said a cuss word, never laid a hand on
me, I mean, he was too good for his own good, but yet he, he sees
dead people in ways and such like that, and, and had tremendous
mental abilities and such. And yet, he sees …. Of course maybe
that’s because he was a, a colonel in the military and he saw the
negative side of it, you know. I hope he was wrong. But he also died
under a lot of adversity. When my father passed away we were being
sued by the book, we got no money from the book. It was all
[stolen].
And, and it was a really a very bad time. …. When I’d hear
my dad say that, I considered the times that he said it. I don’t
think he really meant it. And how can you when he loved my 3 boys,
you know, and I’m sure he would want the best for them. And that’s
why the book was written, by the way. It even says that in
The Day
After Roswell.
He felt that young people could handle it,
by knowing
the truth.
I’ve got to tell you, real quick, about something. He would go into
the Pentagon. And he says there was a room that they would go into,
like a jail cell, and, he says, you weren’t allowed to take anything
into the room. No papers, no pencils, nothing to record anything
whatsoever. And you go in there, and you come out, and whatever
question you asked would be answered, and you’d come out with that
question.
And I asked him, “Was that ET in there?” He never answered
me. He would never say a word. I guess it was classified, so, you
know, a military man would not say anything. I thought it was ET in
there. So, I just brought that up real quick to let you know that
maybe there was one in the Pentagon. I don’t know.
Voice in audience: True!
PC: You think so?
Voice in audience: I’m hearing them saying that.
PC: You hear them say that? Yeah. Well, he talked about it quite
often. He talked about a lot of stuff that, that, uh, is not in the
books. And what I hope to do is modify this book [Dawn of New Age] a
little bit. Maybe a section in the back, that I’m speaking of now,
of our conversations when I used to sit on the floor….
Q: OK. Uh. You had said that you actually connect into the planes
and the computers and that they’re pretty much alive.
PC: Oh, yes.
Q: What do you do with a car that just keeps breaking? [audience
laughter] I mean, you know, I really am serious about this because
….
PC: Who owned it before you?
Q: An x-boyfriend [laughing].
PC: Well, there you go! [audience laughter] Get a new car!
Q: Well, I’m selling it for him…. and it keeps breaking.
PC: Give it back to him!
Q: He’s not here on the island …. But, I’m just curious.… How you
can connect with them [mechanical devices] to find out how to
release some of that old energy, or whatever?
PC: Well, I worked for a company called Larry Smith Electronics and
I finally quit because I was so frustrated because every time I
would go in to fix an autopilot, and I’d say, “OK, I’m going to put
the 183IC in it”, and I’d plug it in that the thing would work.
Always the same IC, you know, and the odds are a million-to-one that
it’s not the same IC each time. So I’d say, “How do I write this
up?” So, I would write it up.
Do I have that ability? Yeah. I don’t know where it comes from, you
know. It comes from my father. He did not have that ability. H- his
was different, you know, with photographic memory and such. But,
yes, I had that ability. So I don’t know if you can do that, uh, if
you learn to do that, you know. So, it’s not something ….
Q: Well, I’m very intuitive, but I’m having the hardest time with
this car ….
PC: Well, love it! It’s hard for a woman to love a car. I guess they
can. Polish it! I’m serious!
Q: I did! I did polish it.
PC: OK. I don’t know. I’m not saying that every machine is alive.
I’m just saying that there are people that have connections with
machinery. And my connections are not with every machine. But when I
build an airplane, it’s definitely connected there. I don’t want to
turn it over to the owner. And, when I do turn it over to the owner,
he better treat it nice! We, we’ve taken many of our planes and
we’ve resold, you know. And, I still keep in touch with them.
They’re my children. Yes, Paula.
Paula [Harris]: OK, what I wanted to say was, we really loved your
dad, in Italy, as you very well know. And before he died he said
that he would … to leave a chair empty in the front row, uh, because
he would always be present whenever we talked about disclosure --
and I’m going to call it disclosure because that’s a common term.
And, and I’m glad you mentioned the reason why, because everybody
thought he had different reasons, and that its for someone to come
close like that. He, he said it was for your boys and for the
grandchildren to know … and that they could handle it. What advise
would you give to, to us, especially to us journalists who keep
working on supporting your dad’s testimony, by bringing forth other
people to support his testimony, because obviously Colonel Corso’s
testimony was not enough?
PC: Well, that’s true. It’s a collective effort, which you’re doing
a very good job of, Paola. You’re one of the only, you might say,
people in this field that I’ve ever met - I’m sure there’s others
but I don’t every one - but you’re one of the ones that report, and
without an opinion. And I think that’s very good because if we keep
that up we can’t get lost in crazy stuff.
And that’s up to each and
every person here to, to weed out the crazy stuff, because if you
do, you’re going to go out the branch of that tree, and you’re going
to have to come back, and it’s going to take too many years. We
don’t have that many years to go out on this crazy stuff. But how to
do we keep my …. I guess the essence of the question is, is, how do
we keep my dad’s legacy alive, and, and, what do we do to ….
Paula: And how do we find the other people to come forth and support
what he …. Obviously he, there were other people around him. He
wasn’t the only one.
PC: Well, you have a gentleman sitting right there [Paul Hellyer -
pictured with Phil Corso].
Paula: Yes. I know.
PC: And, and, and I, you know, it’s magnificent, because that age
there, they, you know, … and I’m getting there, you know. We have to
do something. Time’s running out, and it’s running out quick! And
how do you get them to come forward? You get them to come forward
maybe with this book, you know [Dawn of a New Age]. Now I’ll tell
you right now – my wife’s going to whip me with this one! I don’t
need the money from this book. I’ll give it all away. I’m just doing
this for everyone. I hope it can bring …. [moderator reminding Phil
Corso of the time]
PC: Five minutes. OK . I hope it can bring some peace to the world.
Now, Dr.
Steven Greer, he’s looking a new world - it’s right in
here [Dawn of a New Age]. The technology that’s in here, if we could
only apply it. And I mean, nuke plants that are as big as that table
that will run for 5 years unmanned in Alaska, and produce water thru
reverse osmosis, for 5 years without being touched.
Now, we hear
about the atomic bomb. Dad says in here, we are lost in the nuclear
age, because there’s good nuclear stuff. He would go into rooms, he
speaks about, and eat meat that’s 5 years old! He and General
Trudeau. And there’s people starving in the world because of no
refrigeration?! Come on! In Switzerland there’s light bulbs that
will glow for the next 50,000 years! And they’re bright enough to
read by, and go by, and they’re not harmful. But yet they’re,
they’re treating them.
So, so what has happened to us?! Because we have an atomic bomb
we’re going to kill all nuke away? You don’t know. He says it’s
wrong. We have it right here! Steven Greer just doesn’t know where
to look, and I already told him that. Look here [Dawn of a New Age],
that’s all.
Q: What you do is you connect innately with the molecules of the
airplanes. You can talk to them. I talk to my car all the time,
beloved molecules of my car. I don’t talk to the car. I talk to the
individual parts,
“Beloved molecules, I thank you. I am grateful for
you traveling with me. I clear you of everything that does not need
to be in this car. Thank you, molecules.”
And you can connect to any
computer in this way. Start talking to your equipment. You too!
[laughing] Thank you.
PC: Well, machinery is, is wonderful, but, you know, it has a
lifetime too, and we’re going to replace it with new machinery, and
later technology. And this is going to keep happening. So we reach a
point pretty soon that the technology is probably as smart as us.
That’s one thing Dad says in the book, too. When he and General
Trudeau released the first chip, they also said that they were
afraid because they didn’t know where that was going, where that was
going to take us – or take over us. And they, they were smart enough
at that time, before they knew really its, its limitations of what
it possibly could do. So yeah, maybe evolution is, is a machine. Who
knows. Yes, m’am.
Q: Well, on that note I was wondering if, uh, you or your father or
anyone you know of, has any, um, experience of anyone traveling here
without a machine? And, are any of your technologies being developed
for us to travel, without our bodies, without machinery?
PC: I don’t think so. But, but I don’t know. That, that’s a tough
one. Sure. You know, you, you want to travel to the end of
existence? You can do that in your minds instantaneously, you know,
because you can visualize what it looks like. There’s nothing faster
than thought. But I don’t think that we know how to use it yet, and
harness it properly. Will it ever happen? Maybe.
It’s science
fiction now, you know. But, Dad also speaks in the book - almost
every question asked tonight is in the book. And he also speaks of
mental … certain frequencies, that he learned, and these frequencies
are in the book. He talks about them. And he talks about interfacing
with machinery. And it’s been done for a long time, because the EBE
did it. The Rowell craft was an interfaced machine. …
When Dad was dying, he came back with a gallon of blood in his
stomach, on an airplane …. Doctors said he [will] be dead by the
next morning. In walked Dr. Roe [spelling uncertain] – I’ll say his
name now – and he had a little machine. And the little machine
opened up the chest – and there were 2 other or 3 other doctors
involved and they said he would be dead by the morning.
They opened
up his chest, put the little machine in there, and there’s no
bleeding. And the machine, Dad asked for the machine, through Dr.
Roe. Pretty interesting, you know. I have my ideas of what the
machine is and where it came from. But the good doctor down in Palm
Beach has the machine still today. If you go to him, he’ll probably
deny it…. Who knows. He said he got it in Russia. He picked it up in
a shop in Russia. [audience laughter]
PC: But he’s also quick …. Dr. Roe, real quick, he quit his practice
to do cloning that was led by my dad … Yes?
Q: Hi. I just wanted to… engage you a little bit about – I thought I
heard your comment that we would not be able to go to the future,
um, that we’re not able to go to the past, but in
David Bohm’s Implicate-Explicate Order, we’re infolding and unfolding all the
time, I mean, my understanding is, 14 times a second.
So, if it’s
possible with our mind, through remote mind, all I think we really
need is knowledge. And through that knowledge, if we have ideas of
coordinates, ideas of potentials, ideas of realities, that, would it
not be possible, with everything self-contained, as with this
woman’s con-, or idea about, you know, we don’t need external
technology. I mean, from what you understand, would, could you see
your way to that potential?
PC: Well, first of all, why do you want to do that, you see? Again,
benevolent. You, you have no business going back to the past, or me
or anybody like that, or going to the future, unless you have a
purpose. Now that’s what time travel is. You cannot time travel
without a benevolent purpose.
Q: But what about discovery? Just discovery? For the adventure?
PC: No, no. No, you can’t screw up the universe for discovery. No.
I’m sorry. You see, I told you that when I was at the table with
these religious …. That’s what the Air Force is bewildered with now.
They thought they were hot shots, and were going to time travel all
over the place. No. They’re bewildered. They have no purpose for it.
What’s the purpose? To go back and take care of a country that, uh,
you know, I mean, come on … to start a war? That’s not a benevolent
purpose. So you have to have a reason for it. You’re going to
correct something that was wrong back then? Possibly. I don’t know,
you know. But I do know this, and Dad told me, “The purpose has to
be benevolent”.
So, you know, there, there …. If, if a meteor hits tomorrow, our
planet, and destroys it, we would certainly have a reason to leave,
wouldn’t we? That’s a benevolent reason. So that might be possible,
during a time like that – just a quick example. [moderator
indicating time]
PC: Last one. Yes, sir.
Q: Yes, Phil. My question is, the material in the book, that you’re
going to have published [Dawn of a New Age], will it be the complete
material, not, unedited – all of the material that he has?
PC: Yes. This book right now is in my dad’s … well, some of it is
typed, but most of it is in his original handwriting. His
handwriting looks like a computer handwriting. It’s printing. And
it’s in his original. And that’s the way we want to do it, unedited.
If I do anything, it will be in the back of the book, and it will
say, big dummy me is saying these things, you know, not my father.
So, yes, we’re going to leave this alone. And, and ,uh, you know,
uh, I don’t know if its ever been printed that way before, but maybe
we’ll photograph it just like it is. I think each one of you will
probably enjoy reading it just the way it sits.
I was going to print up a chart, back here – an intelligence
officer’s chart on the EBE, and um, and hand it out to you all. If
we can find a printer, I’ll do it tomorrow. And it just shows the
logic of why the EBE can travel in space and why we can’t. and it
goes through a chart of what we have and what they have, you know –
a comparison chart. I’ll see if I can get it printed up for you guys
and hand it out tomorrow.
Q: Oh, that’d be great. [audience applauds]
AW [Angelika Whitecliff]: We want you to stay here a minute and talk
about your meteorite.
PC: OK.
AW: We’re actually not quite done yet with Phil, because Phil has
made one other exceptional contribution to our conference. And you
might have been wondering why we brought in a table over here on the
stage, and what we have sitting in that glass case. Well, it is an
extraterrestrial object. It is a meteorite, and it’s something very,
very special. Uh, the energies that it brings to this conference
gives all of us an opportunity to experience extraterrestrial, right
here, right now.
And so, this is a legacy, really, that, that, uh,
Phil has offered to us, for this conference, and to be present for
future conferences here in Hawaii, to offer everyone the opportunity
to experience extraterrestrial first-hand. And so, maybe, uh, Phil
could tell us a little bit more about this meteorite, and uh, the
significance of it.
PC: It would be a pleasure. Yes. Well, first of all, it began very
negative. It came from demand, from the White House, who told me to
shut up, as a gift. [laughter]. So, we’re going to turn that around.
OK? We’re going to make it very positive. The unit itself, about 3
months ago, my middle youngest son, Andrew – and he’s mentioned in
the book too. Isn’t that weird tonight? Andrew wanted it.
[The
lecture ends and the viewing of the meteorite begins.]
