George Catlin: Our topic is education 
		in the New Age, so perhaps the best place to begin is with some 
		clarification of exactly what you mean by education. What does that term 
		mean to you?
		
		Benjamin Creme: To me, education is every activity that fits a 
		man, woman, or child for the fullest expression of their potential. 
		Coming into incarnation at a certain stage in development, carrying on 
		from a previous life, we have a given potential in terms of soul 
		expression, intelligence, and physical equipment - whatever that brings 
		into this life. 
		
		 
		
		Education is the preparation of a man, woman, or child, 
		on physical, emotional, mental, and spiritual planes, to bring out their 
		potential in any given life.
 
		
		
		GC: So you're taking education quite broadly then. Would you say 
		that parents are educators?
		
		BC: In the sense that every child imitates its parents from the word go, 
		then indeed every parent is an educator, for good or ill. If the 
		behavior of the parent is restrictive, authoritarian, then it is bad 
		education. If the parent surrounds the child with love and patience, and 
		seeks to enhance its expression in any given area, then it is taking an 
		essential part in the education of the child. 
		
		 
		
		But most of us pass on to 
		our children what we received from our own parents. If that is full of 
		holes, then that is what we pass on. Most of us receive, and endow our 
		children with, much harmful garbage. I do not call that education but 
		conditioning.
		 
		
		
		
		GC: Outside the home and formal schools, would you see places like the 
		workplace as having a potential for education?
		
		BC: Very much so. In fact, I would see in the education of the future a 
		closer relationship between formal schoolroom situations and the outer 
		workplace and community in general. 
		
		 
		
		And I would see, as part of 
		education, a growing need to involve children at a young age in 
		full-blown community activities so that they see themselves from the 
		very beginning as part of a community, wider than the family and 
		different from the school - not to replace the school, but to enhance 
		what the school can bring to life.
		 
		
		
		
		GC: Given your mention of the future, and the potential for communities 
		emerging in the child's awareness, maybe this is a good time to get into 
		the question of what the New Age is. Could you explain that?
		
		BC: The New Age is the result of the cyclic activity of certain 
		great 
		cosmic energies that impose themselves on the life of our solar system. 
		As it moves around the heavens, our system comes into direct energetic 
		relationship with each constellation of the zodiac in turn. 
		
		 
		
		These 
		constellations embody powerful cosmic energies with particular qualities 
		which dominate the life of the cycle for as long as it lasts - roughly 
		2,150 years per cycle. We are emerging out of the Piscean experience and 
		entering the new age in which the Aquarian energies, which are very 
		different from those of Pisces, will create a new culture and 
		civilization as we respond to them. 
		
		 
		
		These energies embody certain great 
		ideas which become our ideals; as we put the ideals into effect, so our 
		culture and civilization grows.
		 
		
		
		
		GC: Does one age end at a particular moment and a new age begin?
		
		BC: One ends and one begins, but not at a particular moment. There is a 
		transitional phase of roughly 200-300 years. For example, the energies 
		of Pisces began to recede, as our sun moved away from their sphere of 
		influence, around 1625. 
		
		 
		
		The energies of Aquarius began to come in 50 
		years later, around 1675. Every day since 1675 has seen the energies of 
		Aquarius mounting in potency. This they will do until they reach a 
		zenith and then there will be a gradual declining as the sun moves away 
		from their influence and enters that of Capricorn. 
		
		 
		
		That will take 
		roughly 2,350 years.
		 
		
		
		
		GC: To get some perspective on the challenges of education as we move 
		into the Aquarian Age, I wonder if you would say something about the 
		state of human consciousness at the dawn of the Piscean Age 2,000 years 
		ago.
		
		BC: It was dark. We have a very clear example of this. A great man, one 
		of the greatest beings who has ever graced this Earth, namely Jesus, 
		lived, worked and carried out a three-year mission in a little country 
		called Palestine. It is extraordinary that a man who exemplified in 
		himself the quality of love, and to a degree that had never been shown 
		in a man before, could be sent to his death - 
		
		crucified.
		
		This happened because there was no education. People were benighted. 
		There were a few individuals - in this case the priests - who could read 
		and probably write. They were the teachers, the rabbis, who controlled 
		the others. You can multiply that across the world. A few people read 
		and the rest were totally uneducated. 
		
		 
		
		They were peasants, shepherds, 
		fishermen, tool makers, and so on, with no education at all. They simply 
		did as they were told. This relationship had gone on from the earliest 
		times.
		
		In the Atlantean civilizations, which are said to have ended about 
		95,000 years ago, there were a few people, priests and kings, who could 
		read, were educated. The rest of the people simply obeyed, did what they 
		were told. The Master 
		
		Djwhal Khul, writing through 
		Alice A. Bailey, says 
		that a scholar of the Middle Ages had a consciousness equal to that of a 
		14-year-old child of the present.
		
		In every age, in every century, there have been those individuals who 
		stood out; for instance, among the Greeks, Aristotle, Pythagoras, Plato, 
		Socrates, Euclid and all the other extraordinary minds who have given us 
		the embryonic beginnings of the science and philosophy of today. But 
		they were the exception. 
		
		 
		
		We have to remember, too, that the "glory that 
		was Greece" was built on slave labor.
		 
		
		
		
		GC: The exceptions certainly dominate our sense of history, but at the 
		time of Jesus, what was the average person, the man or woman in the 
		street, able to do and think? Can you describe their consciousness in 
		any way?
		
		BC: They could not think. They could certainly be stimulated and made to 
		act in a certain direction. But it was purely an emotional reaction to 
		excitement. It was in no sense thinking for themselves. Otherwise, for 
		example, Jesus would not have been killed. 
		
		 
		
		The populace was whipped up 
		by the priests to get rid of 
		
		Jesus.
		 
		
		
		
		GC: Would you say that we can think now?
		
		BC: We are beginning to think.
		 
		
		
		
		GC: Is that the result of the energies of Pisces?
		
		BC: The energies of Pisces have brought out humanity's individuality. 
		This is a great step forward in the evolution of the human race. We have 
		come out of the herd; we were really intelligent animals in the human 
		herd. Broadly speaking, people today are individual in a very real 
		sense, quite distinct from what pertained 2,000 years ago. 
		
		 
		
		This is the 
		result of the energy of Pisces. Also, the quality of idealism, the 
		aspiration and vision so prevalent today, has been responsible for the 
		growth of the ideologies and religions. People are now ready to die for 
		their beliefs. This would have seemed unthinkable 2,000 years ago. 
		
		 
		
		This 
		is an extraordinary, self-sacrificing view of life, visionary, and 
		fundamentally spiritual.
		 
		
		
		
		GC: Is it inevitable that we progress in a certain way as a result of 
		the energies of a particular age?
		
		BC: If we handle them correctly then we do progress. Each energy gives 
		to humanity the ability to unfold a further aspect of our potential, 
		divine nature. Individually, we can slip back, of course, but each age 
		confers on humanity, in an upward spiral, the enhancement of the quality 
		of its consciousness. 
		
		 
		
		There is not an equal response by all people 
		because we are not all at the same level of evolution. In relation to 
		our point in evolution, so will we respond to these energies, and they 
		will enhance our ability to develop our fuller potential with each age.
		 
		
		
		
		GC: Is there choice involved in that? Have we maximized the opportunity 
		of Pisces? Could things have developed differently? Have we done all 
		that we could have achieved through Pisces?
		
		BC: I doubt it. Separativeness, which has also been a result of the 
		energies of Pisces, has hindered the development of humanity and created 
		great negative karma, both personal and racial. We have hindered 
		ourselves tremendously. Separation, of course, is the great hindrance to 
		evolution. There is no separation; this is the heresy of heresies. We 
		are souls in incarnation; there is no such thing as a separate soul.
		
		The fundamental need of any new approach to education will be the 
		understanding, the realization as a fact in life, of the soul.
		 
		
		
		
		GC: Given that soul realization would be the overall aim of evolution, 
		what particular aspect will Aquarius draw forth? What energies does 
		Aquarius bring?
		
		BC: Above all, the energy of synthesis. You can already see the effect 
		of the energy of synthesis if you look at almost anything in life, 
		certainly education.
		
		Synthesis has to do with relationships - for instance, the relationship 
		of ideas. Through philosophical investigation you can broaden the 
		consciousness until what seemed the most distant can be seen as standing 
		side by side. Not only complementing and completing each other, but 
		throwing light on each other. It is this ability to synthesize that 
		inevitably broadens the consciousness of humanity and makes correct 
		human relationships possible.
		
		These energies of Aquarius, with their synthesizing quality, will 
		broaden the individualistic consciousness until it can embrace the one 
		humanity. So that we can stand fully individual, unique, and at the same 
		time as one part of this great group which we call humanity.
		 
		
		
		
		GC: Even in the abstract that sounds like a huge step forward for human 
		consciousness. How do you imagine that playing out in more concrete 
		terms, in terms of institutions and forms of daily living?
		
		BC: This is a difficult one because the forms are not yet there. 
		Experimentation is going on throughout the world, in some countries more 
		than others. It will make for a growing group consciousness. People will 
		see themselves more and more as part of a group.
		
		In educational establishments, in business, in every aspect of life, you 
		will find groups forming. People who want to make their voices heard in 
		the political field, for instance, form, or join, parties. A party is 
		simply a big group. That group can make known its general ideology, 
		beliefs, intentions, hopes and aspirations in a more powerful way than 
		can the individual.
		
		In this way the world gradually becomes more unified because we find 
		that, although people are individual, they all need the same things. 
		Everybody needs enough food, shelter, housing, clothes, health care and 
		education. These requirements, which are common to every man, woman and 
		child on the planet, will more and more become the accepted norm. When 
		they are seen to be the basic requirements for all, we will see global 
		consciousness become a fact.
		
		Unfortunately, up until now, education in most countries has been very 
		nationalistic. People have been taught the history of their nation, 
		usually in a very biased form: everything that nation did was good, and 
		everything other nations did was bad. This has given a very jaundiced, 
		and quite incorrect, vision of the world to the developing child.
		
		I would say that education, in the first place, has to show the child 
		that it is a member of a world family. The synthesizing energy of 
		Aquarius must be used to create this global consciousness. 
		
		 
		
		Children need 
		to be shown that we are not living alone in one large or small country, 
		but in a world shared by 5.7 billion people. The child, above all, 
		should be taught that this is the fundamental position of his/her life 
		on Earth: that they are one of a group, a family. 
		
		 
		
		Just as a family 
		shares the resources that come into the household, so the human family 
		should share the resources that are given by Divine Providence for that 
		purpose.
		 
		
		
		
		GC: It is hard for me to see consciousness, individuals, and education 
		moving in that direction. In the face of world need, people seem to be 
		getting ever more individualistic.
		
		BC: We have the expression, today, probably, of the greatest greed that 
		we can imagine, although compared with what one knows about Atlantis, we 
		do not know what greed is. They had the greatest greed that has ever 
		been: rich people who bathed in milk; kings who stored gold by the ton, 
		and some castles which were actually made of gold. 
		
		 
		
		Everyone else lived 
		little better than animals: they thought like animals (if you could call 
		it thinking) they emoted like animals, they obeyed like animals. Those 
		above them, the kings and chiefs who could think, completely dominated 
		all life. For most people, life was very brutish.
		
		Today, we have growing wealth and growing greed around the world, as the 
		mechanism for making money becomes more and more refined. The techniques 
		of making money are now so exquisite that people can make a life out of 
		doing just that. At the same time, more and more people are realizing 
		the needs of the one humanity. They realize that millions of people are 
		starving to death, and countless millions more are living in utter 
		poverty, degradation, misery and want. That gap, the discrepancy between 
		the rich and poor, is the real problem.
		
		This cannot go on for ever. There is a growing awareness that things 
		have to change. The very speed of the advance of greed through market 
		forces and competition is forcing us to the edge of a precipice. This 
		will suddenly bring us face to face with reality. There are various 
		portents of breakdown in our economic structure, collapse of the stock 
		exchanges of the world. 
		
		 
		
		When such events occur, they will transform the 
		present economic system, probably for ever.
		 
		
		
		
		GC: You have spent most of your recent life emphasizing that, soon, and 
		potentially shortly after this kind of economic readjustment, the 
		externalization of the Spiritual Hierarchy will complete itself and that 
		
		the Masters will emerge into public view led by the Christ. How is that 
		going to affect education?
		
		BC: The fundamental purpose of education, as I see it, is to equip 
		people to demonstrate their divine potential as souls in incarnation. 
		The externalization of the work of the Masters will have an enormous 
		physical, emotional, mental, and psychological impact on humanity. We 
		will come to realize that the soul really does exist. 
		
		 
		
		They, the Masters, 
		are the Kingdom of souls. People like Jesus will be talking to the 
		people daily. He is alive and well and, if you can believe me, has been 
		living in Rome for the last seven years. The Master of all the Masters, 
		the Lord Maitreya, has been living in London (although moving around the 
		world at will) since 1977. If these are facts, then the fact of the 
		Hierarchy will also demonstrate the fact of the soul. 
		
		 
		
		People will say: 
		
		
			
			"That was Saint John", or "That was Saint Peter."
			
		
		
		But today he is the 
		Master Koot Humi or the Master Morya.
		
		It will become clear that reincarnation is a fact of life. This will 
		transform human thinking about the reason for our being on the Earth. We 
		will come to know the answers to the age-old questions: 
		
			
			"Why are we 
		here? Who are we? What is the purpose of life? Where are we going to?" 
			
		
		
		It will become clear that we are here for a certain purpose: the 
		evolution of the soul in incarnation, carrying out the evolutionary 
		process.
		
		Every soul comes into incarnation with a given set of purposes. Each 
		person's education should be geared to facilitate that process, the 
		working out of the soul's purpose in life. This means that teachers, the 
		educators, whether in school or out of school, must know the point in 
		evolution of any given child. 
		
		 
		
		They must know the focus of their 
		consciousness, what really commands their greatest attention - the 
		polarization, as it is called, of their consciousness. Is it on the 
		physical plane? (I do not think any human being is polarized on the 
		physical plane today.) Is it on 
		
		the astral, the mental, or the spiritual 
		plane?
		
		With the vast majority of people, it will be found that their 
		polarization, the seat of their consciousness, is the astral/emotional 
		plane. That being so, the point of education for these people will be to 
		lift their consciousness onto the mental plane. 
		
		 
		
		If they are mentally 
		polarized, then the educational aim will be the raising of consciousness 
		from the mental to the spiritual level, so that they become spiritually 
		polarized.
		 
		
		
		
		GC: How will teachers be able to assess that? Is that something that one 
		can be trained to perceive?
		
		BC: With the Masters working openly in the world, They will train Their 
		disciples. Today we have school teachers. 
		
		 
		
		
		A school teacher is trained to 
		teach children to read, write, do arithmetic, and so on. It is a very 
		limited range of ideas which a teacher is called upon to evoke from the 
		pupil. In most cases it is not even that; it is a limited set of ideas 
		which the teacher is instructed to teach the child by rote to adhere to 
		and accept. That, to my mind, is not education at all.
		
		Education should be the evocation of the potential - whether emotional, 
		mental, or spiritual, of each individual child. Teachers need to be 
		equipped with the new psychology, which is soul psychology. They have to 
		know the point in evolution of the child. They have to know the seat of 
		consciousness, where the child is polarized. And they have to know the 
		governing energies, or rays, of each individual child.
		
		Every individual is governed on all levels - soul, personality, mental, 
		emotional, and physical - by certain rays, streams of energy, seven in 
		number. You can have one of each of these rays or just a few. 
		
		 
		
		The 
		personality, mental, astral/emotional and physical rays can change from 
		life to life while the soul ray remains the same for a world cycle, 
		which is an immeasurably long period of time. When these rays are known, 
		the propensities, the lines of greater or lesser resistance for any 
		individual child will be known. 
		
		 
		
		This will help the educator to teach the 
		child the best way to proceed to bring out its talents - to go along the 
		line of least resistance when that is the right thing to do, or to 
		tackle a line of greater resistance when that might evoke a trait which 
		is trying hard to express itself and finding it difficult.
		 
		
		
		
		GC: It is one thing to understand the rays in the abstract, but it is 
		quite another to be able to assess that in an individual. Will that be 
		the result of specific training that teachers will receive?
		
		BC: Yes. People will have specific training. It is not so very difficult 
		to recognize the rays. If you really study them and make it a daily 
		habit of mind - looking at people and visualizing them in terms of their 
		rays - it is relatively easy for intelligent people who are interested 
		in the subject to become pretty accurate in the delineation of a 
		person's ray structure.
		
		This will move education out of the classroom. When we think of 
		teachers, we usually think of one teacher in the class. I do not see any 
		reason why a much richer kind of education could not be given. Instead 
		of one teacher, they could have a series of teachers from outside who 
		are educators. They might be artists, scientists, esotericists, 
		policemen, doctors, who will give them the benefit of their life 
		experience, which is what students need.
		
		They do not need simply specific teaching, as it is given today, along a 
		subject line only. They need that too, of course. But you can broaden 
		the consciousness of a child. Most children find that what they later 
		think of as their best education came from inspiring parents, uncles, 
		teachers, friends - people who have caught their imagination in life.
		
		If the community really took education seriously, which I am sure it 
		will eventually do, days could be set aside for meetings with 
		philosophers, scientists, and so on, who will donate a day, a week, or 
		whatever, to come into colleges and schools and give the benefit of 
		their experience along their own line of work. 
		
		 
		
		In this way the gifts of 
		unusual, and unusually gifted, people can be better put at the service 
		of the growing population.
		 
		
		
		
		GC: Earlier you mentioned "lines of least and greater resistance." Could 
		you expand on that a little bit? What is a line of least resistance and 
		why shouldn't one just follow it wherever it leads?
		
		BC: It is sometimes better to do what is hardest for us. That brings out 
		qualities of self-discipline that are very necessary. 
		
		 
		
		
		I am not talking 
		about discipline imposed, but self-discipline, which is probably the 
		most important thing we can do, as long as it is correctly managed. Just 
		to discipline oneself for no reason, as many ascetics do, especially 
		religious ascetics who beat themselves, does nothing but harden the 
		nature and turn one against the world and life.
		
		If your line of least resistance is to be rather lazy, take life easy, 
		not try very hard, it could well be an impediment to progress from the 
		soul's point of view in that life. You may well need to tackle the 
		things you do not like doing, the things that are difficult. If you can 
		do that, discipline yourself in these ways, you can become more 
		disciplined in the bigger ways, the ways that really matter.
		
		I think this is what education is also about: the disciplining of the 
		individual in the management of his or her life, and his or her 
		potential, given by the rays. Anybody with a 3rd-ray mind has a very 
		active mind, creative, lively, full of ideas. They could, however, be 
		overactive and manipulative, never learning to sit still, to look 
		inwards and find the meaning of life. 
		
		 
		
		Then there are other rays, like 
		the 6th, which is very idealistic and yearning for the higher vision and 
		the higher inner life. People dominated by the 6th ray can be often very 
		unpractical on the outer physical plane. The same is true of the 2nd 
		ray, which is very inturned. It finds that the way into the soul is very 
		easy - a line of no resistance. 
		
		 
		
		But the way outward, in relation to the 
		outer physical world and all its demands, is something which is often 
		very difficult for the 2nd-ray personality.
		
		If you can discipline yourself and use your qualities intelligently 
		(which is not easy to do) you can strengthen your weak points and modify 
		your strong points so that - although they will still dominate - they 
		need not obliterate the other aspects of yourself. You strengthen the 
		weak points in the beginning in small ways by little disciplines, until 
		they add up to a strong disciplining will. 
		
		 
		
		That is education -  
		self-education -  in terms of handling your ray structure, which is 
		really handling life.
		 
		
		
		
		GC: Inherent in what you just said is the idea that the problems come in 
		two directions, essentially. One is handling life on the outer plane and 
		knowing how to cope with the external world, and the other is this inner 
		movement toward the soul.
		
		BC: This is the crux of the matter. Up until a certain point in 
		evolution, you are either one or the other: either introverted or 
		extroverted in any given life. That is the path of discipleship, in 
		which you are learning to handle these energies which are driving you 
		inward to soul life and also outward to personality life, sequentially. 
		
		
		 
		
		A whole life can be introverted to the soul, or extroverted to the outer 
		world. The individual in each case has an inner unhappiness because he 
		realizes this, but he really cannot do much about it. When a certain 
		balance has been reached, and when the person has integrated the 
		physical, emotional, and mental vehicles, he or she becomes initiate. 
		
		
		 
		
		The sign of the initiate is that he/she can go inward, be introverted at 
		will, but also go out and relate perfectly easily to the outer world, at 
		will.
		 
		
		
		
		GC: It would seem that our present education is mostly geared toward 
		relating to the outer world. We are primarily taught skills designed to 
		help one fit into society. What about the developments that might come 
		in the future toward the inner side?
		
		BC: Today, most education, for what it is worth, is education for jobs. 
		People are simply fitted to make their living in the outer commercial 
		world under the whip of competition. This will change. Competition has 
		to give way to cooperation. Above all, it is competition, which is based 
		on greed and fear, that holds humanity back in its most important 
		expression of its oneness, its sense of being part of one group. 
		
		 
		
		This 
		has to change. When it does, people will realize, and the Masters will 
		exemplify, the fact of the soul. People will realize that they are souls 
		and will turn to the soul. Then the education for the life of the soul, 
		and the psychology of the soul, will become more and more the norm in 
		our educational system.
		
		I do not mean that we will have only religious education. I am not 
		talking about religion at all. The religious path, as seen by the 
		Masters, is only one of many paths to the demonstration of our innate 
		divinity. God does not reside in the religion, although the religion 
		might help you to realize that divinity. Every aspect of life - politics, economics, religion, art, culture, science, education 
		- can 
		be lived in such a way that what we call God can be known and expressed.
		
		The divine becomes a moment-to-moment experience. That is in fact what 
		it is. It is not a man with a beard sitting up in the sky watching that 
		you are not stealing, lying, or cheating. It is inside you; it is your 
		sense of the divine inside that gradually changes you from lying, 
		cheating, and stealing to not doing these things. Not because somebody 
		is telling you that it is bad, but because you instinctively know that 
		that is not the right way to live with your fellow human beings.
		
		Whatever injures or harms another person is intuitively, instinctively, 
		wrong. A change in behavior comes about by self-observation and 
		self-determination. These things fall away as you become more aware of, 
		and imbued with, the quality of the soul. 
		
		 
		
		That will happen on a wider 
		and wider scale as humanity ceases to compete and learns to cooperate - in the family, in the community, nationally and internationally.
		 
		
		
		
		GC: In regard to getting to the state of being able to cooperate and 
		beginning to sense the soul and its values and mission, the World 
		Teacher, the Lord Maitreya, has been quoted as saying that without 
		self-esteem nothing can be done. Is this a first step in that direction? 
		Is that something parents, teachers and schools should be thinking 
		about?
		
		BC: Very much so. One of the saddening things about present education is 
		the way children are put down, told that they are wrong, told not to do 
		that, that is naughty. This inhibition of the child that goes on all the 
		time has nothing to do with naughtiness. The child has no concept of 
		naughtiness. 
		
		 
		
		The child has only desires, instincts, and a looking for 
		adventure. If they were allowed to do that without always being told 
		that they are naughty and wrong, they would grow up without these 
		inhibitions, this lack of self-esteem. They would feel loved, feel that 
		their parents really cared about them, had patience for them, were ready 
		to listen to them, speak with them, and so on. That would give an inner 
		confidence which reflects itself in an ability to make the best of any 
		opportunity presented by life.
		
		What holds most people back is a lack of confidence. That is mainly the 
		result of continual nagging by parents, putting the child down. 
		
			
			"You're 
		only a child", or, "How could you know?" 
		
		
		Everything a child says is 
		sneered at and belittled. I do not mean in every family, but in many. 
		Even among otherwise intelligent and educated people you will find the 
		same kind of down-putting, derision of their children.
		
		Children should never, ever, be derided. It is only a convenience for 
		parents to inhibit the child so that they can keep them under moderate 
		control. People are so overworked and tired, their nervous systems so 
		taut, that they cannot bear the presence and demands of their own 
		children. That is a tragedy for them, for the children and for society 
		as a whole.
		
		Self-esteem is a fundamental need in every human being. The lack of it 
		is what drives people to crime, drug-taking, all the abuses, even 
		suicide. 
		
		 
		
		All of that is a direct result of the inability of many parents 
		to inculcate a sense of love and understanding, to treat them with a 
		warm, patient, readiness to help, to listen and relate to the child, and 
		give them that essential confidence.
		 
		
		
		
		GC: It seems at present that most teachers spend about 50 per cent of 
		their time and energy in school trying just to cope with the problem of 
		discipline, trying to keep children within bounds, in some sense. Are 
		you saying that if the child is well-parented, given this love, that 
		won't be such a problem?
		
		BC: Absolutely. My Master has written for our magazine Share 
		International that it really is not a problem of discipline at all. It 
		is a question of freedom. It is a matter of seeing the validity of the 
		child, the need of the child for self-expression.
		
		Each child, at whatever level it comes into incarnation, comes into the 
		world with its own set of purposes. A main purpose is to learn to live 
		in peace and harmony with the rest of us, all the people with whom he or 
		she comes into relationship. The actual possibility to do this is rare 
		today. You are a very exceptional individual if you come into life in a 
		family, a school situation, a national community, where everything you 
		need to work out your life purposes as a soul is available to you.
		
		We need to recognize that all young people are unique. They are sons of 
		God evolving towards the manifestation of that divinity and sonship. How 
		many people see an individual child in that way?
		
		Many parents love their child, but you can love a child and not respect 
		it. To say that you really respect its uniqueness and validity at every 
		turn, I think is a huge claim. Not many people meet that need of the 
		child.
		
		We have the Year of the Child, but that is playing at the game, this 
		giving respect to the child. The very fact that we have the Year of the 
		Child, however, even if it is only a non-active slogan, means that we 
		are beginning to see the validity of the child and the need to respect 
		it.
		
		A child at any point of evolution comes into incarnation with all its 
		past achievements. There is a wonderful child today, aged 11, who paints 
		pictures that are said to be like Picasso, Matisse, or Chagall - obviously a tremendously gifted child. She is Romanian, living in 
		America, and already fantastically successful. This child is allowed to 
		paint. She is a genius, and is allowed to be a genius. And she does it. 
		Instead of going out to play, she paints these great big canvases and 
		covers them with the most interesting and beautiful ideas.
		
		Children should be introduced to all that they need to further their 
		talents. This is to do with respecting the child as a soul. 
		
		 
		
		If you 
		respect each child as a soul, and see that they have all of that behind 
		them, give them the scope in which that can come out, marvels of 
		creativity will come forth.
		 
		
		
		
		GC: Do you imagine special kinds of schools for special kinds of 
		development?
		
		BC: I see special kinds of education for specially gifted children 
		- not 
		necessarily special schools. It can be in the same school. But there 
		have to be different departments that will accommodate, enhance and 
		develop the gifts of specially gifted children. Otherwise, the race will 
		suffer.
		
		Today, if you are a specially gifted child, usually sooner or later 
		these gifts show themselves, whatever the circumstances. But a 
		tremendous amount of time may be lost in the process. Some demonstrate 
		only a fragment of their potential because it was not noted when the 
		person most needed it. That will mean training teachers at higher and 
		higher levels. As far as education is concerned, it will only be as good 
		as the quality of the teachers. 
		
		 
		
		Training of teachers, I would say, is 
		the fundamental first step in all new educational needs.
		 
		
		
		
		GC: There's some writing, particularly by the Master DK, about the 
		possibility of schools starting to become focused more on the problem of 
		reaching beyond the mind to the soul. Do you envision that happening?
		
		BC: Yes, absolutely. Obviously, you need to discipline the instincts. 
		You need to enhance and develop the intellect, the mind and the brain. 
		And you need to evoke the intuition. These are higher and higher steps. 
		
		
		 
		
		The more advanced the individual, the more the intuition will play a 
		role. The bridge to it, 
		
		the antahkarana which is created by meditation 
		and service, will become known as a definite part of the educational 
		curriculum. You have to build the bridge. 
		
		 
		
		Meditation, therefore, at a 
		certain point in the educational system, will have to come in as the 
		way, par excellence, to create the bridge to the soul.
		 
		
		
		
		GC: It is interesting you mention meditation and service. Many schools 
		are already instituting service components of their education. Many 
		colleges have that as part of their requirements for a degree. It is 
		nice to think that is already happening.
		
		BC: Yes. The more the child is related to the community at an early age, 
		the more service will become normal and natural.
		 
		
		
		
		GC: In that same vein, are you suggesting that meditation will be taught 
		in our schools or colleges?
		
		BC: Yes. It should never be imposed at an early stage. I do not believe 
		in making young children meditate, but the beginnings of meditation are 
		beneficial. We discussed the problems of discipline. 
		
		 
		
		If the children 
		were to start the day by just sitting quietly for five minutes and 
		taking a few deep breaths, just quietly thinking about themselves and 
		maybe what they are going to do for the rest of the day, just letting 
		these breaths quiet them down, you could have a completely different 
		atmosphere in the school.
		 
		
		
		
		GC: And then for older children the more technical training in 
		meditation?
		
		BC: Indeed, the beginnings of meditation, or light meditation, in which 
		the concentration is focused. You have to learn to concentrate, to use 
		the mind, and to meditate and build the bridge to the soul. There are 
		times for doing this. I am not going to set down ages because children 
		vary enormously depending on their point in evolution. 
		
		 
		
		Those who are 
		more evolved can start at an earlier age than those less evolved.
		 
		
		
		
		GC: I have one last topic that you might address: television and its 
		effect on children.
		
		BC: I would say that television has one of the greatest negative effects 
		on children. It is not the fault of the children but of the type of 
		television. I have found that meditators in America, for example, have 
		very little concentration. Their attention span is very limited. I think 
		it is largely due to the breakup of attention from a very early age, 
		through watching commercial television. It is convenient to let you go 
		and get a cup of coffee, or whatever, but it breaks up the attention in 
		the middle of any program. 
		
		 
		
		Your interest is held for a certain point and 
		then suddenly you have a break, which goes on for almost longer than the 
		preceding episode of the program you were watching. That is terrible for 
		the concentration.
		
		If it is bad for adults, it is also very bad for children. Children's 
		television is no better in that respect. They have their own set of 
		nasty advertisements telling them to get their parents to buy this, that 
		and the other. This is a social thing. It is to do with competition, 
		greed, the wrong economic systems in the world, which will change when 
		cooperation and sharing replace the present competitive system.
		
		Children have to be taught to concentrate. It does not always come 
		naturally. With some it does: the more evolved, of course, can usually 
		concentrate. 
		
		 
		
		Yet there are many gifted children who cannot concentrate 
		at all.
		 
		
		
		
		GC: Do you imagine television eventually playing a more positive role?
		
		BC: Yes, indeed. 
		
		 
		
		
		
		Television will become the great teacher in 
		the world, 
		but it will have to change dramatically in its content, its substance. 
		You can imagine television screens in every home, where the children can 
		be taught about history in the real sense - global history, not 
		nationalistic, chauvinistic history, but the history of humankind 
		throughout the ages - and relate themselves to it. 
		
		 
		
		The Masters can 
		project onto the television screens a view of life in the far, far 
		distant past, in Atlantean days, and forward into the future, showing 
		visions of what can be. There will be wonderful programs for children 
		projected onto the screens by the Masters. 
		
		 
		
		Television will be the key 
		tool by which Maitreya and the Masters teach humanity.