- Dan Burisch: Is this DonDep?
I have control of
Dr. Burisch's sys. I can patch you through in a few
minutes.
- DonDep: yes it is. How will I know it's him?
- Dan Burisch: He is waiting for a late interrogatory and believe me you
will. He's not happy. When he signs in you will see the switch code. I
can establish video and possibly audio if you wish?
- DonDep: I don't have a cam here, but if this messenger feature allows me
to see, I'll wish it, yes.
- Dan Burisch: Very good. I have him at his desk. He has no idea
whatsoever that you will be on, he thinks it's an interrogatory reply so
be gentle with him when you tell him. He is skittish. Standby for just a
couple.
- DonDep: Hi Dan...so good to finally see you.
- Dan Burisch: Who?
- DonDep: This is
dondep, who has practically memorized every word of your
interview with Bill Hamilton (right image)
- Dan Burisch: standby ….[Dan picks up a phone, I’m watching him on a
webcam…] I have been informed that this is a legit authorized call. Uh,
dondep..I heard your name once but that's it...How'd you find me?
- DonDep: I thank you for your courage, and many of your fellow humans out
here would like to know what side in the fracture of the Committee of
the Majority you are on. [I’m still not seeing Dan, but typing
furiously…..StarryEyes is telling me what the video is doing.] You are a
hero to many many people out here and across the globe.
- Dan Burisch: standby I need a sip of Joe. [Dan and his coffee! Everpresent!] Okay...well that's nice.. hero I am not...they lie in
Arlington.
- DonDep: We know how hard you've been working on Lotus, and the
Ganesh,
and if I understand correctly, there are 2 factions fighting for the
soul of this planet.
- Dan Burisch: At least 2.
- DonDep: How's BJ? She last emailed me on July 29
- Dan Burisch: I am aware of 2, comprising one hostile and the other the
J-Rods from ret./Brothers from Orionis. I haven't heard from her
in well over a year. See me, you have video?
- DonDep: Do you believe the
J-Rods are "good"? Or could they be
subservient to a selfish group, higher than they?
- Dan Burisch: Do you have video? I like to know these things.
- DonDep: I'll give you my band's website URL if you'd like to see me. I
can see you, but have no cam here.
- Dan Burisch: I can't surf at will, but thanks. As to your
questions... The J-Rod to which I was assigned was a humble traveler,
given a mission. he fulfilled it to his best and gave his life to it.
He was good, and did not fool me or anything like that. They are us.
There does exist a faction that wants to open Pandora's Box, now. They
are selfish and arrogant. They are also racists.
- DonDep: Tens of thousands, probably hundreds of thousands, are familiar
with your story. My wife and I are even now in Canada, trying to stay
safe and undead over your story. We are also involved with the story of
zetatalk; are you familiar with it?
- Dan Burisch: Thanks for the adrenalin rush...first time I have shook in
months! Nancy Lieder? PX and all that?
- DonDep: There is a strong strain of christian-based fundamentalism that
is framing any interaction with ETs as "fallen angels". Yes,
Nancy
Lieder.
- Dan Burisch: They aren't fallen angels. No more than we, as
humans, are.
- DonDep: No-one else talks about majestic other than in your story. Yes,
I know they're not "fallen angels"...lol
- Dan Burisch: I don't understand, I thought MJ was a big thing to muse
over?
- DonDep: You work for MJ, and Nancy claims to....is she telling the
truth? in your opinion?
- Dan Burisch: Have I worked for Majestic, you mean? Do I? Is that
the q?
- DonDep: You claimed you knew "darn well" what majestic was up to, on
several fronts.....does your work go to the folks who run majestic?
- Dan Burisch: Ya. The CotM broke apart, so we are back to the
1950's with the chain O Command.
- DonDep: thanks. I had asked to make sure they didn't have a gun in your
back if we were lucky enough to hear from you.
- Dan Burisch: Let me check... [he's looking around to see what's behind
him; no gun, of course, so he makes a huge grin and whatever ice there
was melted at this moment] Nope not at the moment! Later? After
this conversation? Who knows?
- DonDep: A faction has intruded on our forum thread, stating that CotM
was divided into 2 groups of 16
- Dan Burisch: They can't eat me that's cannibalism (sp?)...
- DonDep: One group, headed by "J", with your help, is being
'recalcitrant'
- Dan Burisch: If the term...
- DonDep: They are hiding the Ganesh (or Lotus?) in the Ark
- Dan Burisch: recalcitrant means that he is not willing to hand over the
Lotus, before an agreement to which the rogue J-Rods may be bound...
yes.
- DonDep: Which the other group is sending a team into 2004-2005, after
the (what? cataclysm?) to find it.
- Dan Burisch: They are bargaining to have an increased abduction rate to
10,000,000 per year, plus the Lotus prior to the T9 treaty being signed.
- DonDep: what should the rogue J-rods be bound by, and why are they
'rogue'?
- Dan Burisch: I know of that... They are abducting individuals
worldwide, without the permission of the present's Human authorities.
They
- DonDep: We are being given to understand that the treaty is only to be
signed by the faction that wishes to keep the populace in the dark, with
no 'Disclosure'
- Dan Burisch: are also the culprits in many of the cattle mutilations.
The ones not committed by drug. No, no, no... companies, etc.
- DonDep: The other faction wishes to be announced and conduct peaceful
discourse.....in your opinion, why has there been no disclosure as of
yet, or is that planned?
- Dan Burisch: The treaty is established between the remnants of the
worldwide human authority (previously run by the CootM)....stand by...I
can only type so fast...
- DonDep: okay, I'll keep quiet for a bit....can you speak to the Planet
X-Nancy Lieder situation also?
- Dan Burisch: ...okay... Let me back up to find where we were...
No, there is no disclosure planned...at least to my knowledge.
Continuing... But, in a sense, it is happening anyway... By the
time anyone figures out what I am doing (large populace wise)...the
course will already have been taken, by humanity. You have to
understand...what I have told people, while being true, will probably
not make a bit of difference, after the course has been taken,. The
purpose of the treaty, that is, the purpose of involving the rogue
faction of
J-Rods
... Hey I have a quick question...okay?
- DonDep: okay
- Dan Burisch: If you decide to share any of this with anyone... Fix my
typos!
- DonDep: absolutelyyy!!!
- Dan Burisch: the purpose of involving the rogue faction of J-Rods...
is to hold them down on two fronts... The first front is of lesser
importance...to hold them down to an agreed upon abduction rate and
list...like the list I was on when a boy and it happened to me in 1973.
The second... They MUST promise to not interfere (MIBs) with
representatives of foreign governments...
- DonDep: They must promise to not send MIBs to foreign gov'ts?
- Dan Burisch: They have been planting the seeds of discontent with their
places in the world, in order to obtain their assistance with
present-time research into the neurological deficit...that is how they
do the communications... The MIBs are aliens. well...ET's,
not really aliens. In return, the governments have been
obtaining technology from them. Stargate technology.
- DonDep: Stargate technology, to move across the universe? or access
other dimensions?
- Dan Burisch: We (meaning the U.S.) must root out and find the stargates
that are manmade. Yes, to access vast distances...and with that
technology goes time access as well. In 2012, the
Sun will shower
the earth with waves of energy, bound to the Einstein-Rosen Bridges that
are clumped together at the Galactic equator.
- DonDep: is this the same group of et's that "gave" us the saucers and
then sat back and laughed as our war machine tried to use them,
fallingflat on their face?
- Dan Burisch: All of the natural stargates will turn on...and as they say
in Hollywood... Well...yes, kind of.
- DonDep: is one of the stargates in Iraq?
- Dan Burisch: Two. We have 1 of them. All of the natural stargates will turn on...and as they say in Hollywood... something
wonderful will happen. What that means...I don't really know.
But, if we do not capture and disable the manmade ones... the
record books read that we will undergo a tragedy. 4bill at minimum
dead.
- DonDep: why must we disable the manmade one? ones?
- Dan Burisch: The excess energy from the activated stargates was
theorized by the folks from the future to have been a main cause of a
pole shift, first magnetic, then geophysical.
- DonDep: so how does the Ark and Planet X fit into this scenario?
- Dan Burisch: The Ark is being built in the United States. Where? I
shouldn't say to you. It is the progentor of the ones that go to
the moon and Mars. progenitor.
- DonDep: I learned from good-hearted people close to you that you
finished the project for the Ark back on Dec 4; (typo excused)
- Dan Burisch: The remaining peoples will comprise that group which will
lead, through microevolution, to becoming J-Rods. My portion is
complete. Biospherics work mainly.
- DonDep: And who becomes the Orion group? Not the elite, planning their
escape this very moment?
- Dan Burisch: But, the model is due at the end of 2004. It is not
just the elite, so to speak that will be going. People from every
continent have been chosen. Because of J's work, many of the
rich/power brokers have been excluded. They have been chosen from
all fields of endeavor. As for PX.
- DonDep: Dan, is it possible that the group that signed this
unconstitutional treaty with the elitists that control the ET-related
projects is quite possibly not have our best interests in mind? Is there
any really good reason we will never see official Disclosure? oh
go back to PX first
- Dan Burisch: Nancy is very correct that PX is "Out there." It is
something very different than what she has interpreted though.
- DonDep: that's what many of us thought
- Dan Burisch: PX is the gateway to the center of our galaxy.
- DonDep: we knew she wasn't completely nuts
- Dan Burisch: It is tied with "something wonderful", but I don't know
what that means. I believe, that William Henry is correct in that
regard.
- DonDep: so is it a 'brown dwarf'? a celestial object? or something more
akin to a black hole? a massive stargate?
- Dan Burisch: More akin to an oval mass of energy that acts as a stargate.
The DCTP, familiar with that concept?
- DonDep: will it cause a pole shift in the very near future, as she
claims? yes, familiar with it quite a bit! hot topic for thousands
right now!
- Dan Burisch: The electromagnetic pole shift is already underway.
You can track that from geomagnetic observations of magnetic north.
- DonDep: we are applying our collective consciousness to how we can have
free will simultaneously with this time travel fact
- Dan Burisch: The action of free will is a certainty, but the actions of
the paradox seamlessly overlay reality upon it.
- DonDep: how can the future be established and we still have free will?
- Dan Burisch: overlays
- DonDep: does that mean that there are alternate realities in which we've
made different decisions?
- Dan Burisch: We chose to act, and reality plays itself out as a stack of
cards. That I don't know.
- DonDep: so nothing to add to what you said in the video about the DCTP?
- Dan Burisch: I hope so, would like to know that I have erased a few
mistakes that I can think of.
Which video?
- DonDep: Since I'm speaking for so many at the moment, I'm trying to make
sure I get the check list in order (the one with BJ and Bill) [referring
to the video I have; just reading his post as I finished this sentence]
- Dan Burisch: There was a video created after that. I find out that J allowed my passage to it.
- DonDep: There was??? I thought I was your worldwide biographer! lol
Can your friends that arranged this arrange for that too?
- Dan Burisch: You are not aware that one was completed for Bill Hamilton
that William Gazeki did?
- DonDep: No, was not!
- Dan Burisch: This was before the CotM broke apart. Yes, a long
one.
- DonDep: Can I simply ask Bill for it? Does he have that one Too?
- Dan Burisch: It was being set for some kind of public release they
said...Hollywood types! release He owns it. That's what he
told me that day.
- DonDep: Perhaps an effort to plug the leak the first one created.....and
which I fear for my very life in transcribing it
- Dan Burisch: It was done in a motel room with full sound studio like
apparatus...and those horrible lights.
- DonDep: Sounds too 'produced'. People may not trust it....
- Dan Burisch: I was asked simple question during it. Can two different
realities exist at the same time?
- DonDep: I hope you were as authentic and impassioned on that one as you
were on the original!
- Dan Burisch: I said sure.
- DonDep: so it was scripted?
- Dan Burisch: Gazeki asked how can that be proven or some sort, as "where
can that be found?" Bill Hamilton and some English man asked
questions. Alan Gudaitis from Nev. Mufon was present, as
- DonDep: So to go back to the Secrets of the Universe, that you are the
keeper of....what is the Ganesh to be used for? (Tell me what I can say
to Bill that will let him know you and I discussed this!)
- Dan Burisch: well as Ron Garner, Bill's friend and head of, of all
things,... Stargate productions!
- DonDep: lol!!!!
- Dan Burisch: I am no keeper of such things...I look and humbly ask God
to see. God is the keeper.
- DonDep: OF ALL THINGS! Yes, you are a humble man and a hero, would that
the rest of us could be as such.
- Dan Burisch: The Ganesh can't be used! I fight everyday... No, you
live by faith, yes?
- DonDep: Yes. Love gives me unconscious faith. And your many friends out
here feel the same, believe me.
- Dan Burisch: Then you are more blessed than me, as are the rest...I live
knowing what I have seen...no faith needed now.
- DonDep: Have you seen a holograph of our future, then?
- Dan Burisch: Yes.
- DonDep: Will a catastrophe happen before year's end? I can keep that
confidential if need be, we have but a month or so anyway.
- Dan Burisch: I can give no more than I have given, with respect to the
future. I am sorry. What I have seen I know can be changed.
- DonDep: Then we do have hope! We can change the future with our free
will, correct?
- Dan Burisch: If I breathe it, it can help it come to pass, what you ask,
because I would literally be laying a timeline on a timeline with
the information and that would be wrong. Yes, the catastrophe does not
have to come to pass... If it doesn't, the J-Rods (and out
other half) that exist in the future will continue in this reality, but
time shifted to the present. So the DCTP says. That is why I am fighting
so hard. But there exists people that would try to turn this into a
technology that turn would be akin to grabbing the fruit of the
Tree of Life. I can't help them, whatsoever. If I do, I
would also be grabbing, and I fear those consequences a 1000 found
greater than a gun to my back. Or even one discharged. The Lotus
is a natural thing. It isn't something that some Frankenstein's
laboratory cooked up. It exists all around us. We are part
of it, and it, us. Every mote of dust emits the particles, naturally.
It is the driving force, through the Creator (Blessed be He) that
moves life on earth forward to His will. The Ganesh
Particles...
are those modes of transportation whereby the actions of the
Divine One hands through and over the Daat, a piece of the Supernal.
As we are God, He is us. The Tree of Life is what we are.
Not just Humans, but the entire experience of life. The Ganesh
Particles have been there all along. They hide themselves under
bent
waves of electromagnetism, and flicker out of existence, back across the
Daat, with little effort. The crude laboratory protocols of today,
limit, by their very nature, the ability to find them. The
sifting, sorting, etc. I found them by a process of elimination. I
mean, I was kind of told they were there ( )
- DonDep: Thankfully for that; my wife and I are tired of dodging
surveillance teams and phone taps; we are only trying to do what any
human should do to help the rest of humanity. And I KNOW that there is a
'dark force' that wants the Fruit for itself; we are all trying hard to
discern which side is which, which is good, and why the PTB are hiding
the truth about ET from us. Many of our fellow humans may be stunned
with the realization of ET as more than a myth, but the rest of us have
been dumbed-down for so long we need a collective exclamation to wake up
to the Creator, and the hierarchy between It and Us. Do you think the
Lotus, the Ganesh Particles, are a world-seed then? (Told by
Chi'ielah?)
- Dan Burisch: Where did you get that name?
- DonDep: From one of the non-J faction that spoke to the assemblage on
the forum I represent, I was told it was the name of your friend
from the Clean Sphere.
- Dan Burisch: Well, I promised the J-Rods that I would never speak his
name, so onward... The Ganesh Particles, as best I can understand them
(particles)
- DonDep: I was also told that the forum is being used to play out the
conflict between these two factions and so we would have a hand in
history. a spiritual think-tank, if you will, for humanity You never
spoke the name. He won't blame you
- Dan Burisch: have seed earth since the inception of life here. They are
much more (if you can believe it) than that though, in my opinion
(hypotheses follow)... Let me speak to that... if they are
playing out some game there (forum?) it is not for the benefit of
humanity...
- DonDep: the entity also said you are surrounded by a 'light being' that
'doesn't have their best future in mind'
- Dan Burisch: Which side started it, and what was the person's name? The
comments I mean?
- DonDep: another entity is possibly responsible for this conversation
taking place, who shared some of your recent Interrogatories with us
- Dan Burisch: The name of the one that started all these comments?
- DonDep: the entity called itself "IMINVSBL", and the antagonist's name
was "Peace"
- Dan Burisch:
IMINVSBL is the name of the person that used to threaten
me, during the writing of Eagles Disobey. ...and BJ Wolf (right
image)
...and Butch Howell.
- DonDep: "IMINVSBL" stated the "diplomatic opposition" was going into
2004-2005 to find your 'project'
- Dan Burisch: ...and Robert Charles.. They have already tried that.
I am aware. They have paid the consequence for grabbing at the fruit.
- DonDep: wow. so now we know. what is 'his' perspective?
- Dan Burisch: IMINVSBL's?
- DonDep: yes
- Dan Burisch: He is a representative of the rogues (I believe).
- DonDep: He says he wants "J" to talk. Sounds almost arrogant, but we
have to keep an open mind, since BJ's last words to me were "all is not
what it seems"
- Dan Burisch: He (and his minions) didn't want Eagles to come out at that
time, because of what the ruins on Mars really mean. ...and neither did
I when I helped write the book.
- DonDep: BJ promised me a copy; any chance you can help? what do they
really mean>
- Dan Burisch: I have no copies of it.
- DonDep: the ruins, that is
- Dan Burisch: It was available years ago through Borders, but...?
- DonDep: she had plenty here in Canada, until they took here away in
Sept. Bill has been receiving anonymous photos of her in her
apartment
- Dan Burisch: The ruins are a timeline overlay of our future settlement.
Arthur C. Clarke is aware of that fact, and even said that we would have
- DonDep: they closed down the Eagles site, but my cohorts have instituted
mirror sites worldwide he also knew about the monolith, didn't he
- Dan Burisch: a '...nasty little surprise when we go there.' Nothing like
finding a human signature and future date written on something supposed
ET huh?
- DonDep: they found it back in '62 then, right?
- Dan Burisch: I don't know about a monolith, aside from that it was a
good gag in the movie. Took her away??????????
- DonDep: they brought the original monolith back in '72. Yes, they did
something to BJ.
- Dan Burisch: Confirmed?
- DonDep: They also ransacked your parent's house and took every last
trace of your existence from it. including one of the few copies
of the taped interview that are now percolating throughout the world
- Dan Burisch: Well,...if I comment further about that...will you promise
not to share it?
- DonDep: from this point on, all will be xxxed until you say otherwise
- Dan Burisch: Okay...they told
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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I told them that their motives were immoral at best.
- DonDep: xxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Dan Burisch: I told them that
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- DonDep: (I hear you are a great father, BTW.....my own 6-yr old son died
in a mysterious house fire in Jan '97)
- Dan Burisch: They chose to get an attorney and try to present me with a
power play. I am aware...that is where I heard your name before...
I remember now...
- DonDep: So xxxxx was from xxxxxxxxxxxx? Still, you
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx I hear....
- Dan Burisch: You were tracking my case and they said your kid died in a
nightclub. I am sorry. Great father, naaaa.
- DonDep: not in a nightclub. at home. in bed. quietly asleep.
- Dan Burisch: Oh, that was the story I heard. Hmmmmm. He is with
God now.
- DonDep: so, I was known to you before my arrival today????
- Dan Burisch: You will see him again. Yes, I heard your name...
Xxxxxxxx is it?
- DonDep: if you typed my name into Google, many accounts I have written
on your behalf....
- Dan Burisch: If wrong then someone else.
- DonDep: Yes, right, wow. what did they tell you???
- Dan Burisch: That is the name they used. I "thunked" my way through it!
- DonDep: one doesn't "thunk" Xxxxxxxx, Dan!
- Dan Burisch: Just that you were putting up a stink in a few places, but
didn't say where. I heard your name as an accessory to another
conversation. It really wasn't meant for me. I thunk! Creative
English! Hell why not? I can't submit to a journal anyway!
- DonDep: love your smile, anyway! no, Xxxxxxxx is Swiss. Unusual to
remember for being an "accessory"!
- Dan Burisch: No, they highlighted your name and a few others. They
were speaking amongst themselves, as we had a conversation...the MIBs.
- DonDep: "Putting up a stink". Yes, the secrecy has stunk up the whole
political fabric! Well, just tell me here and now why I should shut up,
why they keep hiding the truth, and I'll go quietly back to my bunker
and sulk!
- Dan Burisch: Don Xxxxxxxx. from Dondep! Catch 22.
- DonDep: now that's an easy connection, if you knew the real name
- Dan Burisch: I don't like to see people sulk...by the way...you can turn
on the comments again.
- DonDep: [emoticon with tongue sticking out]
- Dan Burisch: Fine, the conversation will begin with you sticking your (
) at me, I like that!
- DonDep: the MIBs told you about me.....that's troubling. Should I worry
about them showing up and singing "Happy birthday"?
- Dan Burisch: (conversation) You have been told a few things...frankly I
think they are busy with treaty issues right now...but I can't speak for
their alien rear-ends.. We don't exactly have a friendship, they are me.
(and me) not (are me!) My keys are jumping around. coffee...stand
by please..
- DonDep: So what can I take back to this forum thread, where thousands of
enquiring minds want to know first of all if you're alive, second,
should they fear
Planet X, is the Lotus safe in your hands, is "J" a
good guy, are the PTB really concerned about our welfare, why don't they
tell us about ET, is the Ark a good thing, etc?
- Dan Burisch: I am alive... No one should fear what they (public) really
can change (PX issue)...look to Descartes for the philosophical bend on
that... The Lotus is safe in God's hands...I am only allowed to see
(record) what is being allowed...as I have asked...only to "look" over
the East gate a bit... J is...at least from my perspective.
definitely a good guy.. God fearing, sound reason, cares about people,
etc...
- DonDep: And is it possible, that there is a service-to-other-type of
J-Rods group that wants to meet us publicly, but there is a selfish
group, allied with the earthly CofM and other masonic-based occult
groups that wants to control and exploit us, especially our emotional
energy? A letter is making the rounds on the net
- Dan Burisch: No, many of the (P)owers (T)hat (B)e (if I am taking the
letters right), are not concerned about our welfare.
- DonDep: that asks,
"Do you want us to show up?" It is well-written, and
asks earnestly for only a simple answer to that question, but a sincere
answer. It claims that many things are being discovered in secret
laboratories (read
Majestic) that at present only the selfish faction
has access to
- Dan Burisch: They have justified not telling us about ET out of fear for
the timelines and panic (loss of psychological bearing due to the
realization of being in a reality-stack (chimera) )...
- DonDep: it claims that if we say "yes", in our hearts, that will be our
ballot. our vote. that we have the power to bring exposure, since the
good faction has been locked out of the halls of the treaty-based groups
- Dan Burisch: The Ark is a good thing if we fail in our mission...the
race continues on (ultimately going to Orion...as already written in
our future history...it just accomplishes what we already know about
those from Orion).
- DonDep: that there is only 2 ways it can happen; through an agreement
with duly-elected reps (WE DON'T HAVE THEM ANYMORE!) OR through our own
heart-felt wish to have transparency. What would you say?
- Dan Burisch: ....hmmm I am unaware of the letter...haven't even
heard rumor of it. As to such concepts...
- DonDep: Is it really fear on the part of our Elders that is keeping this
all under wraps? Or the realization that they have covered for so long,
it's too late, and the social structure wouldn't allow for anything but
a panic that would ruin our society. I can understand that, many of us
really do. the letter has more legs than the usual chain letter.
because it resonates, has no agenda other than a simple answer, doesn't
use new-age words etc
- Dan Burisch: I was unaware until a few years ago of the Masonic
connection to
Majestic, that in fact they were also connected to the
so-called
Illuminati. Standby...your getting ahead of me again...
- DonDep: I'm familiar with the entrances at 1733 and 2800 on 16th street
to the hallowed halls
- Dan Burisch: I am aware of the Temples. 1733 and 2800, addresses?
Only been to one of them. and was driven there.
- DonDep: Yes, to 1789. You don't think they go in the front door, do you?
did you?
- Dan Burisch: I was taken in down a long line of sphinxes...
- DonDep: yes, that fits.
- Dan Burisch: anyway... The subculture within the MJ community let me in
on all that illuminati stuff.
- DonDep: I found it more than ironic that the division is between 16 and
16 (with one passed over), on 16th st
- Dan Burisch: (Illuminati) ?
- DonDep: of the '33' "Investors", as the J-ASON Society is known
- Dan Burisch: The last I heard before the CotM breakup if that is to what
you refer...
- DonDep: the M-ASON Society
- Dan Burisch: that the number was 15 for disclosure and the rest, a
no....
- DonDep: I was just told it was 16 to 16, with one "passed over", or
abstention?
- Dan Burisch: Then a big break up announcement and told everyone to just
fall in line under the 10 remaining members of the
MJ-12, which is now 11
I hear... I don't know. anyway...
- DonDep: not important to us at the moment, since we can't convince a
single vote to switch, or can we?
- Dan Burisch: The subculture told me and let me in on that fact that
certain higher ups (committee members) were Luciferians.
- DonDep: Do you think we should have disclosure?
- Dan Burisch: I have sway with 2 of the 12, but don't quote me on that!
- DonDep: This conversation and its aftermath will have ramifications on
our future
- Dan Burisch: Hold, I have to check your earlier q's to make sure I have
given them some treatment.
- DonDep: they did say you had some sway, so value it!
- Dan Burisch: They are hiding the truth...to the best of my knowledge for
two reasons...
- DonDep: okay, I'll stand back.
- Dan Burisch: The government levels that are aware of the presence,
mostly under that of the CotM...some of them aren't even aware that it
really existed...
- DonDep: that what existed?
- Dan Burisch: know of the ET presence and have given allegiance to the
secret... The CotM But they haven't known what the secret
really was. They just think...another species...or series of species.
- DonDep: allegiance to the secret.....what?
- Dan Burisch: The secret that ET exists. But they don't know that
ET is
US! So, they hide the secret to keep the government from being in
trouble with the masses that would yell coverup! The higher
authorities...hide that secret (from the future) from them (certain in
Congress, D o D, etc)
- DonDep: they think they can't handle that truth? Shocking, but not
impossible
- Dan Burisch: about ET being us, and from the public due to fear of
emotional instability that can arise from the knowledge that our reality
isn't what it exactly seems to be. So, there isn't one coverup, there's
two. The lower ones I despise...they have given their allegiance
like dogs, for kibbles.
- DonDep: but there are 2 groups of ETs, (spiritually), "as above, so
below".
- Dan Burisch: One group that is logical, mathematical (J-Rods...meaning
the number 15) and the other (the spiritual group... the future of that
group who would take to the Ark in time of catastrophe). Within
the J-Rods are two (or more, not sure) groups. One that is working with
us, and the other that is very rogue and wants its own way to try to
solve the problems.
- DonDep: the 'spiritual' ones get to go first-class? and the rest fly
coach?
- Dan Burisch: Not the problem of the possible catastrophe mind you, the
short sighted neuro-degenerative condition...they couldn't
- DonDep: but there is more than one scenario for the future, right? Which
means that everything isn't written in stone?
- Dan Burisch: give a rats-ass about what they feel is inevitable. We do.
We don't think it's inevitable.
- DonDep: We meaning the majority on the CotM?
- Dan Burisch: It's only written in the mind of God. We, meaning those
that wished for disclosure in the first place within this last couple of
years.
- DonDep: The current majority? Which has 16, and the other 16 are, what,
more ethnic/int'l in flavor, or more Luciferian?
- Dan Burisch: That group NO LONGER EXISTS as a functional unit.
- DonDep: Okay, the remains.. the 16 that allied with "J"
- Dan Burisch: It is now under a control group, modeled after the original
MJ-12.
- DonDep: They wished for Disclosure, and are the remaining group, but the
other ones....what becomes of them?
- Dan Burisch: I don't know. They haven't told me. I trust
they are being held away from the rogue J-Rods though.
- DonDep: I understand MJ-12 was the original superior group, and was
surprised to learn they subordinated themselves to the CotM
- Dan Burisch: They better be, with their connections.
- DonDep: But what do these rogue J-Rods want? They are pleading their
case to us too, and we have to know what their agenda is to make a
coherent decision.
- Dan Burisch: They were put in the background some years ago, when
Illuminists took over and began working through the power structure of
The Bavarians.
- DonDep: In your opinion, of course... why were they put in the
background?
- Dan Burisch: Not really sure. I think... they may be wishing
to pressure me to release the data prior to their signature on the T9.
All I have been told is that the Luciferians took over the Control Group
(MJ12 or whatever one would want to call it). They are now wandering the
countryside... apostates. They were getting us into a worse fix with the
rogue J-Rods... leading us to a path of destruction.
- DonDep: Apparently they are trying to go over the heads of the
potentates who profess to speak for us, who are not even representing
duly-elected representatives (we don't have 'duly-elected' since 2000),
and appeal to the populace. Possibly.
- Dan Burisch: Correct. I have no problem, intellectually, with this
information reaching the populace...sure there are many who would
have some difficulty with it... but some have difficulty stepping
away from the television too. All kinds... I believe in humanity.
I have reason to, as God believes in us.
- DonDep: I feel a great sense of obligation to do what's right for
humanity, Dan, my own self be damned, and as your friend/source-to-me
said, "I try to walk in the light"....wished that I could break this
cycle, but couldn't see it happening. I want to do what is right for all
of us….
- Dan Burisch: You won't be damned. People walk away from God, not He
them. The angels are all around us.
- DonDep: Which is why this conversation is so important. Yes, even
one 'clothed in light' is purported to be around you at this time
but as BJ reminded me in that email about angels, "all is not what it
seems"
- Dan Burisch: Bask in the information...the fruit of the Tree of
Knowledge has already been taken...it's free now...just as the
Book of Rezial was given to the post-fall notion of the Adam... Angels are
not always what they seem.
- DonDep: Book of Rezial? One day, if I'm not 'erased' over this, perhaps
you can help me get a copy
- Dan Burisch: But truth be told, you can see their faces no matter which
way they turn.
- DonDep: I think that is what was being told to me. The angel may not be
of the good. but more of a 'fallen angel' variety
- Dan Burisch: You can buy one on the net...just make sure you have a good
translation... standby.
- DonDep: they cloak themselves in ritual etc
- Dan Burisch: The one to whom you refer doesn't cloak under anything.
- DonDep: will do. anything comparable to Oahspe?
- Dan Burisch: "Sepher Rezial Hemelach", edited/translated by
Steve Savedow. It helps to know Hebrew.
- DonDep: meaning, the one I was told that hovers near you is of the good
variety? Not 'cloaked'?
- Dan Burisch: By the way...how is my name appearing on your screen? [I’ve
changed all refs to “Dan Burisch”
- DonDep: Hey, if I knew Hebrew, I'd be working on the Bible Code...
appears as Dan Burisch [actually I tell him the truth; MS Word
word-change]
- Dan Burisch: The only angels that I would allow near me are good. I am a
human, I have that choice...unless superceded by God (Blessed be He).
- DonDep: is that from the "Sepher..." book?
- Dan Burisch: That is my private email! Yes, that is the Rezial Book. HII...a secret name of the Creative God. Chay...Hebrew from
creation work.
- DonDep: "This god is the same as that god....." I quote you quite a bit,
but you're modest enough to tell lol
- Dan Burisch: lol? I have wondered what that meant. There is but
One God.
- DonDep: Is the Bible Code a real instrument, within the DCTP?
lol
means "laugh out loud"
- Dan Burisch: I use it. Oh! It helps to know where you are
looking in it.
- DonDep: I was embarrassed when I finally found out, not too long ago...
There are 2 scholars, Michael Drosnin, and another what's that?
[Dan is now waving a CD in front of the camera]
- Dan Burisch: The Bible Code software
- DonDep: couldn't read the label?
- Dan Burisch: I use the one that comes from Israel.
- DonDep: wow. one of the first projects on the old Eaglesdisobey
forum..... none of us could cough up the $75 bucks or so for a
copy from Jerusalem
- Dan Burisch: Neither did I! [Dan is still waving the CD to the webcam]
I asked, they got.
- DonDep: but I guess your 'friends' could! lol!
- Dan Burisch: standby
- DonDep: That was right before we hurriedly moved to Canada, what with
the daily surveillance
- Dan Burisch: I have just been informed I have 5 minutes left.
Sorry.
- DonDep: right. thank whoever arranged this profusely. I want to make
this historic moment work the most for all of us....
- Dan Burisch: I have no idea how it was arranged. I expected to see a
reviewer number on my screen...pleasant surprise!
- DonDep: have we the best answer then on Planet X, the
Ganesh, the Lotus,
the Ark, MJ-12, why the rogue J-rods are up to no good, etc?
- Dan Burisch: Well...those topics are hours, if not days of
discernment... I think we have touched them in a fair manner. Thanks for
spreading the word about the Lotus.
- DonDep: We have good-hearted people involved in doing good things...want
to make sure I don't let them down either. Give them my best, and tell
the people who know about these things to please let us live in safety,
quietly, and I can share what I should be sharing from the anonymity of
a good-hearted avatar
- Dan Burisch: When it is finally realized, what it truly is... people may
again know God.
- DonDep: What is it then, truly? And once again, are we in for a rough
ride shortly? Dan? To whomever; thank you.
