Post subject: Re: Genetic Techniques
Presuppose Genes to Manipulate
PostPosted by
Steve:
Thu Aug 14, 2008 11:03 am
As the fascinating story that Anton Parks tells continues
to unfold in continuing breadth and depth, we reach the
intriguing prospect of how far back we can push the "origins"
questions and whether his sources can give us any further
insights here.
For here we have Reptilian,
Amphibian and other alien entities (who are connected with the
Kadistu who are in turn connected to the Source)
who claim to have fashioned human beings through genetic
manipulation and hybridization.
The story is amazing in itself, of
course. But this leaves us wanting more, does it not?
So I am more than a little curious
as to whether Anton Parks has received any information on the
following questions. They are not "new" in any sense, and we
will all recognize them as versions of the really big ones we
all continue wonder/obsess about.
Some of the intriguing supplemental
lines of questioning then become:
-
How does "indigenous stock"
(i.e., life forms which are not at inception genetically
altered and on which genetic techniques can then be
practiced) get to exist in the first place? In other
words, how does any particular life form come to be?
-
More specifically, the
existence of biological life forms as we humans are
aware of them "all" use genes as a template. The
existence of genetic material in biology is thus the
foundation of life as we know it. How did the genes
(DNA), given their complexity and their necessity, arise
so that DNA could be used as the universal (or at least
such to our knowledge) template for biological
existence?
Presumably being a "protein
factory" is the most modest of DNA's functions. Recent
Russian research suggests that
DNA is a receiver, transducer and
transmitter of energy/information from what
is called the Vacuum in modern physics (a serious
misnomer as it is a teeming energetic field of virtually
incalculable energetic/informational potency).
If so, what is the nature of
the Vacuum? Is it "alive"? Is it in some sense the
Source? Does the Vacuum, if it is alive, use DNA as its
means of "breathing" life into biological life forms?
-
In what does being "alive"
consist? Presumably from the Parks story so far, there
are souls which are conjoined to the bodily part of
existence and runs on that system while it is so
conjoined? If there are 'souls' which reincarnate or
otherwise are connected to the body (which then would
appear to be a computer program of sorts running on DNA
as a biological chip perhaps using holographic laser
light technology in some sense) then presumably the
"energetic" and "informational" body is not "all" there
is to life, as the materialist science would maintain.
If this is so, how do souls
"mesh" with their bodily computers? Do monkeys have
souls? Insects? Bacteria?
Does the soul have
energetic/informational structures that need
to somehow "correspond" to any structures of the DNA to
which it is conjoined?
Is the soul itself some sort
of distinct energy and/or information field? If not,
what is it?
-
Finally, is DNA in fact a
universal biological template or can "life" (ensoulment?)
also exist in "inorganic" templates such as silicon? Or
is anything animate of that sort really just a robot,
albeit one that (while likely lacking "emotion") can
seem in all functional respects to be a biological life
form?
I suspect the questions could go on forever, or at least I
could, but I'll stop at this point to give everyone a rest.
Post subject: Re: Genetic Techniques
Presuppose Genes to Manipulate
PostPosted by Zeitlin
Thu Aug 14, 2008 4:41 pm
Location: Oswego, New York
Steve,
Your posting of course contains the greatest question of all
time, embedded in some others. Let's see what we can do with
this.
Anton Parks has not been a member of this forum and I
really don't know if he has ever even seen it, so I forwarded
your posting to him by e-mail. It happens that he is travelling
at the moment so we probably won't be receiving any form of
response until next week, earliest.
In the meantime I would like to take the opportunity to respond
in a peripheral way to a few issues that your questions bring to
mind.
There is so much here. This reply will confine itself to your
opening paragraph.
About the alien evolutions, the Kaditu, and the Source...
The war that came to our solar system left us with a minority of
beings who recognize the Kadistu (readers who don't
understand this term should
see here) and links to the
Source, and a majority who do not, but see THEMSELVES as the
only source. Furthermore, the majority of humans have believed
them, i.e., the second group, hence all the religious wars that
we have.
Who is right? That is something each person must decide. All we
do on these pages is to try to alert people to the issues.
Anyway I mention this here because you see that your first
paragraph already is couched in one of two major systems of
understanding. This should be recognized.
Not much more to say about your first paragraph except to
mention that both sides are highly adept at genetic
manipulation. We have a chart (The
Two Adamic Lines: Abel and Caďn), which also now appears in
Parks'
Ádam Genisi, that provides
some information about the manipulations that were performed
subsequent to about 500,000 years ago - that is, even prior to
the war.
We have done another one for the
future publication The Awakening of the Phoenix, showing
more of the major modern human races, plus "bigfoot" and others,
and taking it all back more than 65,000,000 years, and even THAT
is not the beginning, possibly not by a long shot.
And now WE are learning the tricks of it. There should be no
doubt that our so-called genetic science with its
explanation of random mutations is not out of the baby carriage
itself. But it's a beginning, underscoring how universal this
is.
Ok, enough for this reply.
I'll continue with your paragraphs,
maybe one per day, not sure.
Post subject: Re: Genetic Techniques
Presuppose Genes to Manipulate
PostPosted by Zeitlin
Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:24 pm
Location: Oswego, New York
Quote:
1. How does "indigenous
stock" (i.e., life forms which are not at inception
genetically altered and on which genetic techniques can then
be practiced) get to exist in the first place? In other
words, how does any particular life form come to be?
We don't know that that is the way
it works, do we?
As far as the scenario on Earth is concerned, it would be good
here to review the section "Ura
/ Deep History" to get a sense of what "indigenous
stock" means in this context, if anything.
In the larger context, is it possible that all life forms are in
a sense laboratory productions, modifications of something
earlier and more primitive?
Could there be or have been perhaps some single proto-life form
from which all the rest sprang? And if so, how did they "spring"
and when did they learn the arts of genetic manipulation? Yes,
it is mind-boggling.
We're going to have to wait for deeper information from Anton
Parks on the very earliest stages of this process, if indeed
he has any.
Meanwhile, since it has been quite some time since I wrote that
"Deep History" section, based on Parks' materials, I am
going to reread it myself. If I get any bright ideas from that,
I'll post them here.
Post subject: Re: Genetic Techniques
Presuppose Genes to Manipulate
PostPosted Steve
Fri Aug 15, 2008 5:51 pm
Yes, everything could be a
laboratory production, 'except' I take it the
manipulator/creator itself. The old unmoved mover problem. That
entity then needs to operate on "raw materials". The genetic
code is pervasive in all life forms that we know of so it must
be involved. Yet DNA may not be "fundamental" in that it may be
sourced in some less complex substrate.
But whatever the raw materials and
the substrate, "life" issues. If the materials and substrate do
not themselves "self-organize" into life (the purely mechanistic
hypothesis featured in
Darwinism), then we need to
determine the modality which does that. That modality, whatever
its precise characteristics, would appear, based on the latest
thinking (which surely may not have it right, either), must have
an "energetic" component which carries "information."
Matter, as such, would then becomes
a special case of energy and information.
Hartmut Muller (for one)
suggests that this modality is a logarithmic universal
gravitational scalar standing wave. This is 'all' there is,
according to Muller and all that exists springs from it.
One physicist's candidate for the Source.
Post subject: Re: Genetic Techniques
Presuppose Genes to Manipulate
PostPosted Steve
Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:19 pm
I found another bit of information
on Mueller and the late physicist/Sumerian scholar (!) George
Merkl.
Here are some quotes from this
website:
http://www.waternutrition.com/life.html.
Merkl believed along with Enderlein and Naessens that the
protit or chondriana was primary for life. Here
are the quotes:
According to George Merkl these particles which he calls
chondrianas (protits/somatids) are,
"composed of tiny, pyramid
shaped crystals of ATP, adenosine triphosphate, the chemical
fuel that powers the machines of our bodies. ATP is the
energy molecule of the body, the muscles 'burn' ATP when
they contract.
These crystals are what spawned
in the oceans of all worlds to transduce Life down from the
bi-directional electromagnetic wave structure in the scalar
potential of vacuum".
(Genesis II, George Merkl,
pg. ii)
These Protits are the
physical elements that transduce the energy called Life
from the infinite, scalar potential of vacuum, down into this
three dimensional, physical world where they physically
manifest, pop into existence, protits, for ever, always
moving, always, an infinite source of new Protits/Somatids/Chondrianas.
Where do they come from, what Power
keeps creating them, what energy keeps them moving, for ever?
We are immersed in a sea of infinite
energy called here the scalar potential of vacuum, a Power that
is beyond our... it can't even be discussed.
This scalar potential of vacuum is
the electromagnetic potential of vacuum which is;
The ZERO POINT POTENTIAL.
"...the energy of nothingness, of vacuum, of chaos. This is
the energy that holds all this corporeal existence together.
It is Free Energy and it is infinite."
(Tapping The Zero Point
Potential, Moray B. King, pg. iii)
Later on, we get this:
George Merkl, PhD was also a Sumerian scholar!
The following quote from
Manna, Gold of the Gods by
Henry Kroll, begins with by research done by Dr. Müller with
frequent reference to George Merkl, PhD:
"Contrary to popular scientific
belief, Dr. Müller's research reveals, much to the chagrin
of human genome geneticists, that genetic information is
not contained in DNA strands. Instead, DNA and RNA
molecules generate optical holograms which are in resonance
with, and driven by, specific frequencies generated by the
universal standing scalar gravitational wave. Every living
cell resonantly receives the appropriate data in the form of
weak electromagnetic coded signals from the universal scalar
wave necessary for biochemical processes such as protein
synthesis.
"Remarkably, in order to shield advanced biogenetic
knowledge from the eyes of the profane, the simplistic
images depicted on Sumerian clay texts by the Shemsu Hor,
contain encoded data appertaining to protein synthesis and
the manufacture of an elixir which repairs damaged cells and
restores dead cells to life. Some 50,000 Sumerian clay texts
contain coded images of cytoplasm, black protein,
nucleotides and reticulated endoplasm. The Sumerian textual
code was broken by the late
George Merkl, PhD, that
incredible genius whose suspicious death does not appear to
be from natural causes.
"The basis of Dr. Müller's research was the discovery of a
non-electromagnetic interaction between physical biotic
systems. It was later found by Russian scientists that this
previously unknown "biofield" interaction even occurred
between supposedly inanimate objects such as rocks or
interstellar material. Later, in 1988, microbiological
experiments conducted aboard the Mir spacecraft determined
that the biofield was actually gravitation and amazingly,
modulated gravitation possessed the unique capability of
transmitting biological data-a fact independently verified
by the distinguished physicist and Sumerian scholar George
Merkl, PhD.
"It appears to be the intent of the Russian government
never to release the contents of the papers into the public
domain, for they are based upon experimental data which
not only disproves Einstein's gravitational theory
but also renders much of presently accepted theoretical
physics unacceptable. In other words, the world of
theoretical physics requires a major overhaul.
"Russian experiments conducted during the 1960's and
subsequently suppressed by the Russian Academy of Sciences,
revealed that,
"The universal logarithmic
scalar standing wave is the only source of energy within the
universe. All other physical objects, ranging from the sun
to human cells merely draw energy from the universal wave by
means of resonant coupling. Because of this harmonic
coupling, the universal wave determines the physical form
and growth characteristics of all living creatures, from
simple protozoa to mammals, thus
invalidating Darwinism. The
distribution of matter within the universe is controlled by
the universal wave, allowing for a flow of matter toward
node points of the wave, thus preventing random and
uncontrolled galactic growth. The logarithmic wave could be
considered as the engine of God."
The interesting thing here, of
course, is the Sumerian scholarship.
One wonders what Anton Parks
might add to or subtract from this material.
Post subject: Re: Genetic Techniques
Presuppose Genes to Manipulate
PostPosted Zeitlin
Fri Aug 15, 2008 7:16 pm
Location: Oswego, New York
Steve...
Good piece of work on your part, finding this. And I can't fault
it, either. This is serious information, unlike so much of what
we see in these areas.
Resonance with something built into the very structure of
gravitation? Who knows? It is provocative.
However, I feel quite unqualified to comment on it further.
Given time and motivation, I could study it, and this would mean
acquiring more background for it than I have at this point.
We'll have to see if Anton Parks feels that it resonates
with any information that he may have, when he returns next
week.
A big thank you!
Gerry
