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				Kerry Cassidy (KC): Let’s go from exactly where you are... 
				because you’re before the Council. They’re making a decision.
				
				BD: Right.
				
				KC: And are they conscious that you’re there? Did they invite 
				you in?
				
				BD: Oh, they bring you right in. It’s like a courtroom, you 
				know, so that we will understand it, of course. But what they do 
				is they give you a surrounding that you can identify with. So 
				for me, I was in a physical courtroom.
				
				KC: Sure. OK.
				
				BD: And there’s all these other human beings that are actually 
				like in the witness box, 24 of us. And they were being brought 
				forward one at a time, and then our consciousness would be 
				uploaded for all of those beings to actually see all our life 
				experiences and the information on the world and so on. And you 
				see all these images. And actually, because we were in the box, 
				we could actually see what was being witnessed by the others.
				
				KC: OK. But you’re also being given a message to take back.
				
				BD: Right. The message to bring back is, if you want to call it, 
				it’s almost like a Biblical message, because my calling is 
				virtually identical to the calling of Moses, who is my ancestor, 
				and to Elijah and Jeremiah.
				
				It’s basically: Repent. Get back connected with the creator God. 
				Don’t set up a set of rules, i.e., stone commandments. Get 
				people so their heart is so they don’t do things wrong because 
				it’s written on their heart.
				
				It’s the message of “The Kingdom,” which is, in other words, for 
				mankind to be an advanced civilization with advanced technology 
				that doesn’t get absorbed by the technology like 
				Ray Kurzweil 
				and many “Luciferians” talk about, is to transcend it 
				spiritually so that technology is our servant and not our 
				master.
				
				BR: Right.
				
				KC: Absolutely.
				
				BD: And that’s what’s happening, is whether it’s genetic 
				technology that could relieve illness, and stop many of the 
				pains of fragility as people get older, and we want to lengthen 
				human lifespan. I belong to the Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine.
				
				But I don’t want them to do things like create cybernetic 
				chimeric super-soldiers, that then become a plague upon the 
				planet, or super-weapons that are used to kill or destroy others 
				so they can get control. And so it could be used for good or 
				incredible evil, and our problem is right now that most of the 
				funding is toward evil.
				
				KC: Right.
				
				BR: What’s the outcome of this meeting that you’ve just been 
				describing?
				
				BD: The outcome of the meeting was a somberness, a seriousness 
				that, if we didn’t get the message through to the people, that 
				the planet of Earth would be annihilated, would be allowed to be 
				annihilated.
				
				A lot of people think, for example, a lot of the space-based 
				weapons platforms we have around the Earth - Right? Because I 
				worked with U.S. Space Command - are weapons to knock out 
				spacecraft, to knock out asteroids or meteors, to, you know, 
				basically shield Earth against geomagnetic super-storms that may 
				occur from Solar Mass Ejections and other things, and to control 
				the climate. In other words, they’re trying to create a kind of, 
				like a terrarium, of Earth so as we pass through the galactic 
				plane...
				
				KC: Right. Except that some of those weapons are located on the 
				Moon and aimed at Earth.
				
				BD: Right. And in fact, most of the weapons there could be aimed 
				at Earth very easily and have been, and have been used for great 
				evil - just like the 
				
				geotectonic weapon that triggered off the 
				Sichuan earthquake, or the earthquake that was struck on Nagata, 
				Japan, and broke the reactor core of the largest reactor in 
				Japan. And it was told three days before to 
				
				Ben Fulford that his 
				finance minister, of course, had been warned that he had to pass 
				over authority to 
				
				the Rothschilds, or their banking system, or 
				they were going to hit Nagata. And they did.
				
				BR: Yeah.
				
				BD: I mean, it just shows you that the abuse of this power is 
				not just under circumspection of human beings. If you want to 
				invoke the Biblical terms, if you want to call the word... angel 
				just means, in Greek it means messenger. It means these 
				messengers are always watching everything in the higher planes 
				of existence. Right? And they’re here right now.
				
				KC: Absolutely.
				
				BD: They’re here in this room right now. Right?
				
				KC: I was going to say...
				
				BD: Right. They’re here in this room right now.
				
				KC: So what do they want you to tell people, you know, that has 
				to happen now?
				
				BD: Well, it’s wrapped up in one word, and it sounds kind of 
				trite but it’s true. It’s called Repent. OK?
				
				KC: Mm hm.
				
				BD: And it says in the Book of Malachi, which is one of the last 
				books of the Old Testament, it says: Repent before the great and 
				terrible day.
				
				And what it’s really saying is: Reconnect with the Creator God, 
				become a Child of God, take your scepter.
				
				And we have authority. You’re no longer just a little bug down 
				here, a worm on the planet Earth and a small dwarf, yellow dwarf 
				star. You are the Voice in this plane of existence of the 
				Creator God. The spirit in you is not a separate spirit. It is 
				the I AM. OK?
				
				You have the authority to create your own future. You have the 
				authority to destroy disease and poverty, and not have 
				pollution, and have limitless energy and information and to 
				spread peacefully and interact with other civilizations 
				throughout the cosmos without disrupting or destroying them, but 
				maybe being almost like, if you want to call it, midwives to 
				other civilizations...
				
				KC: Absolutely.
				
				BD: ...that will then advance to the level where they’ll 
				understand and come out of the Petri dish and the crib of 
				civilization and become another advanced culture themselves.
				
				BR: I’d like to add an anecdote to this, which you may have 
				heard, and I’ve also said before on another interview but it’s 
				worth repeating. Bill Birnes, the editor of UFO Magazine was 
				privileged to talk with Admiral George Hoover of the office of 
				Naval Intelligence before he died.
				
				BD: Right.
				
				BR: And he asked Admiral George Hoover: What’s all this big 
				secrecy about? What’s the real deal? What’s really going on 
				here?
				
				BD: Right.
				
				BR: Because, what’s the big deal about Roswell and little guys 
				from wherever they’re from or whenever they’re from? Why can’t 
				we tell the people this? And the long story is that, according 
				to George Hoover, the biggest secret that the people must not 
				realize, it’s not this data about the technology or the 
				visitors, or the existence of the visitors. It’s our own power. 
				This is the biggest secret.
				
				
				BD: It’s our own power. Exactly.
				
				BR: It’s our own power that we must not realize, because the 
				greatest secret is who we are, what we can do, what we can be, 
				and they’ve got to keep us in our box. Otherwise, their game is 
				over.
				
				BD: Right. In other words, the comment made by Yeshua 
				Ha'Mashiach Jesus is: Surely you know you are gods. And they 
				misinterpret the word. In other words, you don’t replace the 
				Creator God of the universe; it means you’re an extension of it.
				
				KC: Sure.
				
				BD: And you’re only an extension of it when you hear. The Hebrew 
				word is shemah, hear and do.
				
				In other words, the problem I see right now is that we have a 
				society that thinks, by external rules and controls, we can 
				create this Luciferian world of order in chaos, so they can 
				create a world of “peace” which is totally an ordered world that 
				is completely under, if you want it call it, you know, 
				scientific control. It’s a scientifically-controlled society, 
				not ruled by spirit.
				
				The very nature of what we are, though, is a spirit being 
				passing through a matrix of energy that creates worlds. We are 
				literally creating our own timeline in our name.
				
				BR: Yes.
				
				BD: And the thing is, corporately we are creating our own 
				timeline in our name. That’s why, for example, I tell people on 
				the show repeatedly: Don’t drink the Kool-aid of fear.
				
				KC: Mm hm.
				
				BD: Because fear itself creates, if you want to call it, a 
				backburner or an atmosphere that allows them to create the web 
				of destruction that occurs next.
				
				BR: Yes.
				
				BD: In other words, they can think themselves into bombs going 
				off in cities. They can think themselves into a release of 
				plague. They can think themselves into a grand depression, where 
				thousands of people starve to death and start cannibalizing. 
				They can think themselves into...
				
				One of the things they try to do, is that want to have this fear 
				worship. They want to elevate you so then you become almost like 
				another avatar, rather than, no different than, that. I’m not 
				any different than my little daughter, or the pert little, what 
				they call them in the military when they’re shooting ’em, 
				“rag-heads,” over in Iraq. I am the same. I’m just another 
				incarnation of the I AM.
				
				BR: Yep.
				
				BD: And the point has to be this: That if we don’t start getting 
				back to that connectedness, we’ll think it’s OK to have this 
				thermonuclear / scalar / biological warfare; it’s OK to kill 
				most of the population of Earth; it’s OK to create a new 
				cybernetic super-army, and replace the military, and destroy 
				them in fact when we release these damn things.
				
				As I say, one person said to me: If half of what you say is 
				true, or even 10 percent, we’re in a lot of trouble.
				
				BR: Oh, we’re in big trouble!
				
				BD: I have a very special calling, not because I’m special, but 
				because I hear and do the will. And people need to understand 
				that. One of the things they try to do is, they’ll say, you 
				know, ten years or a century or a thousand years from now, 
				they’ll try to say: That guy was so special. No one can ever be 
				like him.
				
				And what I want to tell them is I have had many opportunities to 
				go to the dark side, and I could have been one of the greatest 
				evil-doers that ever lived on this planet.
				
				BR: And you were approached a couple of time, is that right?
				
				BD: Numerous times.
				
				BR: Numerous times.
				
				BD: One of the most serious was 16 years ago, where I was 
				sleeping in my home. I was actually back from working in Georgia 
				at a burn unit and trauma unit, and having a practice there, and 
				I had come back for family reasons to Infield, Nova Scotia. And 
				I was sleeping in a different part of the house because I was 
				snoring.
				
				So I woke up in the middle of the night, bolt upright, and I sat 
				up. And I had all the lights on because I’d have to periodically 
				go to the restroom or whatever. I had all the lights on. And 
				this guy was standing in front of me with what I call a $5,000 
				tuxedo, not a gray hair in his head, mid-50s, slim and trim.
				
				I said: How did you get in here?
				
				And he says: It’s wonderful to see you, my son.
				
				I said: You’re not my father.
				
				And I looked at this guy, and he looked like French nobility. 
				Right? And I said: Who are you?
				
				He says: I am the 
				
				Baron Guy de Rothschild, the Pindar.
				
				And I had this really kind of, what I call a check or a kind of 
				a cringe in my spirit. And I knew right away, because I have 
				this gift. Right? Without getting into a big long discussion, I 
				knew right away.
				
				I said: I know who you are. You’re the representative of the Luciferic power that controls Earth.
				
				He says: Yes, I am the CEO of Earth, Inc., and I am the man that 
				sits in the 13th chair of the Druidic Council. I want you to be 
				my understudy, and when I transcend I want you to take over my 
				job.
				
				And I said: No, I’m not going to.
				
				He said: We know your bloodlines; we know your genetics; we know 
				everything about you and you’re a perfect replacement for me.
				
				And I said: No!
				
				And after I rejected it, he said: I’m going to kill you for 
				writing these two books, which I received supernaturally 
				facedown on the concrete, you know, about six years before, 
				which no one knew about because it was in my study.
				
				KC: What do you mean, you “received supernaturally facedown on 
				the concrete”? What do you mean by that?
				
				BD: Basically I was “out,” if you want to call it, and I was 
				told to write these books, and I wrote them down, which I 
				released back in 1999 with a group called The Prophecy Club.
				
				And he said: And I’m going to touch your baby daughter’s heart.
				
				I said: I don’t have a daughter, and my wife’s not pregnant. And 
				he started laughing. And I thought he rebuked me because I serve 
				the God of the Universe, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
				
				And you could see his countenance change. He got really nasty 
				looking. And then all of a sudden, literally – four feet - as 
				far as you’re away from me, in broad daylight, he just “poof” 
				and disappeared, like in a vortex.
				
				And I went upstairs shaking, and I could hardly talk, you know. 
				I told my wife what happened. So the next morning I went to my 
				office to do a pregnancy test, and of course she was pregnant.
				
				And like six weeks later we’re sitting in the ultrasound room. 
				During medical school I had worked with Dr. McMillan and I 
				actually did some of the background research on ultrasound 
				before any of the doctors in North America actually had it for 
				analysis, so I could read ultrasounds.
				
				So I’m sitting in the ultrasound room and the tech’s moving over 
				my wife’s abdomen. And as she scans over the abdomen, the 
				technician, you could tell... Her lips dried right up, and she 
				had this kind of stark look on her face. And I knew right away. 
				I could see nuchal thickening and the center of my daughter’s 
				heart was stopped.
				
				BR: Wow.
				
				KC: Is this the young girl we just met?
				
				BD: Right. Now you’ve got to understand that some of the things 
				that have happened to me are so remarkable that they just, you 
				know...
				
				She was born through C-section. I was told supernaturally, I had 
				visitations that told me that she wasn’t going to die, even 
				though the surgeons said: We don’t know why she’s even born 
				alive. Because her heart was... Literally the center of her 
				heart was gone. She had almost a single chamber heart. Right? 
				Which is a miracle.
				
				And they did the first surgery at six and a half months. By the 
				way, we’re pro-life. We knew that she was going to be born with 
				Downs Syndrome, and of course we hoped that it was going to be 
				somehow miraculously healed.
				
				But I was told, basically, don’t be fearful, that she’s going to 
				survive, and she’s going to have this surgery. She had her first 
				surgery. She had already lost four ounces from her birth weight 
				by the time she had her first surgery.
				
				And then at two and a half years, her heart started to enlarge 
				again. It was now the size of an adult heart and she was about 
				to die. So we had oxygen tanks, you know, oxygen pumps 
				concentrating oxygenated air and it had a 60-foot long tube 
				going to her bedroom with a little mask before her surgery.
				
				And so I had a... because I have visitations all the time. They 
				told me: This is the words the surgeon will say to you, that I 
				don’t know what I did, but I put in only four sutures, and her 
				heart was miraculously healed.
				
				There’s not even just a grade-one mitral valve defect. They 
				didn’t have to replace the heart valves. But literally, with the 
				Dacron grafts that he had done earlier, and with just a few 
				sutures, she’s healed. She never even had to be on a heart drug, 
				never been in a hospital, hasn’t even ever had a cold, which is 
				amazing for Downs Syndrome. Right?
				
				But the key issue to me... And I think that I was permitted to 
				go through these experiences - this is one of the many ones - is 
				to understand the issue of the sacredness of all human life, 
				whether it’s the disabled, the elderly, people of different 
				faiths, skin colors, intellectual powers, whatever, that we’re 
				all in a sense the continuous incarnation of the Creator God, 
				which is the message of The Kingdom that Yeshua Jesus was trying 
				to give.
				
				The other experience I want to share is back in... October 10th 
				of 1993, I was face-down praying and I was brought 
				supernaturally by, if you want to call it, the term, archangel, 
				which is one of the senior messengers.
				
				I was brought by this archangel, and he announced his name. He 
				said he name was Gabriel. Right? And the word Gabriel means one 
				who has a message from the voice of the Most High God. Gabriel 
				means one who can speak for God. Right? That’s what it means.
				
				And he brought me to an underground facility. He brought me to 
				some satellite facility. And we didn’t just walk around and he 
				kind of said: This is that, and this is what’s been happening. 
				He actually explained the technology to me in great detail. We 
				spent, if you want to call it in the spirit realm, I spent hours 
				and hours and hours with him.
				
				And I said: Well, where am I?
				
				And he wouldn’t tell me. He said: You’re going to know because 
				you’re going to go to the place where this pastor is.
				
				And I thought it was Dallas. Right? So I called up. No, no he’s 
				already left here. He’s gone to Colorado Springs. It was a 
				pastor by the name of Pastor Doug Sheets.
				
				So my wife called, and she checked with a placement agency. She 
				said: Well, there’s no jobs available in Colorado Springs.
				
				So three weeks later, she got prompted to go and start calling 
				around. And the second hospital she called, she talked to a lady 
				by the name of Joyce Wolf, who is the head of CCom. Oh, we need 
				an Op-Med doctor. Your husband does occupational and 
				environmental medicine? He has a background in...? And, you 
				know, I was a charter member of Greenpeace, and had a background 
				in toxicology and chemistry and biochemistry. Oh good, we’ll fly 
				you up this weekend. And four days later I had the job.
				
				KC: Hm.
				
				BD: July 10th of the next summer, which was July 10th of 1994, I 
				walked through the same facilities underground and the same 
				satellite-based engineering stations and classified projects as 
				I had with the angel.
				
				KC: OK.
				
				BD: OK? That’s just one of hundreds of experiences. OK? So 
				people need to know that we are being watched. The reason why 
				the Earth is not an engulfed mass of biological weapons release, 
				even though we had 347 accidents just last year in Class Four 
				installations. That’s not even Fed-Ex Couriers. We have no idea 
				how many times we’ve been saved from cataclysm.
				
				BR: Yep.
				
				BD: We have no idea. The number of interventions is just... I 
				say making angels gray-haired. [laughs]
				
				BR: Yes..
				
				BD: And if you want to call them ETs, angels or whatever you want 
				to do, but we are being watched and we’re being watched over 
				very, very diligently because it’s such a desperately late time.
				
				BR: But these guys... Are you saying that they’re not going to 
				step in forever, or there’s certain things they can’t do?
				
				BD: No, they can step in only if there’s a transformation of the 
				heart. You see, it’s not going to be space-based technology to 
				knock out, you know, to shield the Earth from the collapse of 
				the magnetosphere. It’s not going to be space-based particle 
				weapons that can hit an incoming meteor. Or a solar storm.
				
				It’s going to be a change in the heart of mankind that we will 
				not harm any other race. We’ll not invade a country, like what 
				we’ve done in Iraq and kill 1.5 million Iraqis. We will not put 
				poison in vaccines and call it fine.
				
				We will not go to third-world countries like Poland two months 
				ago and do tests on Polish vagrants and kill them. There were 
				300 tests and 23 died within minutes, and 200 more were very 
				seriously sickened.
				
				And they’ve now imported to America 500 million doses of the 
				Sanofi Pasteur Vaccine made on contract for Homeland Security.
				
				Now it’s not to scare people. It’s to make them understand that 
				the reality that I try to present on the show is both the 
				technical, scientific, public information, you know, in the 
				public domain, as well as classified. But you’ll see an overall 
				picture. But then on this other side there’s the spiritual 
				dimension to that.
				
				And they have to understand that, whether there’s... I get 
				people all the time: Should I leave North America? Should I 
				leave America?
				
				I say: No, now is the time for us to confront this because you 
				can’t go far enough away.
				
				And they say: Well, what do you mean? How far?
				
				And I say: Well, Mars isn’t far enough away for these guys.
				
				KC: Right.
				
				BD: I say: You have to understand...
				
				You know, one of the talks that I had back in July of 1994 was, 
				of course... The Senior Commander of the 
				
				US Space Command comes 
				up, and he’s a very sharp, this-is-the-way-it-is kind of guy.
				
				He says: Docs, I come to Jesus-talk for you.
				
				And I thought: Oh-oh, what’s he going to say to us?
				
				And he has this real serious look. He says: You’re one of our 
				guys now. So you’re going to hear stuff, because you’re working 
				with these guys who are working on all these weird projects. 
				These guys are the brightest guys in engineering, cybernetics, 
				physics, space-based weapons, everything. And you’re going to 
				get exposed to things.
				
				And so you won’t hear it from somebody else, so I’m going to 
				tell you right now. We control every cubic centimeter of space 
				between here and Mars.
				
				And I said: What? I said: You mean between here and the Moon.
				
				He said: No. Mars. 
				
				We’ve had a colony on Mars since the early 
				1980s, and we found evidence of previous civilizations of human 
				life on there going back a long time.
				
				We’ve had an 
				
				entire city on the Moon for mining operations for 
				Helium-3.
				
				We have entire fleets of space-based vehicles, and we have more 
				advanced sub- and above-light vehicles that are interstellar. 
				OK?
				
				You need to know that. Even though we have entire rings of 
				space-based platforms around Earth, we have collaboration with 
				advanced civilizations. And if you don’t know this stuff, you 
				might as well know it now. And if you have questions about 
				anything, ask me, because otherwise, if you’re not in the loop, 
				you’re going to freak out.
				
				KC: OK. When was this? What year?
				
				BD: July 10th, 1994. OK?
				
				BR: Yep. All of this corroborates... all of this is... Let me 
				start that sentence again. Nothing we know contradicts anything 
				that you have just said. The information that we’ve got from 
				other sources completely supports everything you say.
				
				BD: Right.
				
				BR: This is just testimony for the people watching this.
				
				BD: Right. I know, and I’m saying this straight out.
				
				BR: This is the way it is.
				
				BD: Yeah. Now you’ve got to understand that the number of 
				convergences... When I traveled around to The Prophecy Club, to 
				42 cities in Israel, and I tell my story, people said 100 
				individuals couldn’t have been in all those places, but I was 
				supernaturally told, just like I was told to call you guys.
				
				KC: Mm hm.
				
				BD: I was the exit examining doctor for the Special-Op forensic 
				team that came back from the Murrah Building in ’95, and my 
				boss, Major George Schwinder, was not available because he was 
				getting extra air time at Fort Hood, Texas. So all five 
				Special-Op agents, I had to examine ’em.
				
				One of the five broke down and told me in great detail how they 
				removed two unexploded fourth-generation U.S. Army Corp Engineer 
				micro-nukes, thermite, RDX, and high explosive cores, and the 
				buildings were brought down by the FBI and ATF.
				
				I kept that information hidden. And as I was driving down the 
				street in Littleton, Colorado - because I had my practice in 
				downtown Denver, and I was living in Littleton and down on the 
				Highlands Ranch.
				
				KC: And this was after...
				
				BD: This was after. This was back in 2003. I’m driving down the 
				road, and because I do have this gift, literally I hear the 
				voice of God, just like Moses.
				
				KC: Right.
				
				BD: You know, what it talks about in the Bible? I’m the 
				bloodline descendent. OK?
				
				God said: Turn on the radio. And I turn it on.
				
				And he said: Turn to this channel.
				
				And I do, and I’m hearing this guy talk about financial things. 
				I say: Oh, that’s boring. Why am I listening to this?
				
				And then all of a sudden... Don’t turn it off.
				
				And then a guy comes on and it’s Alex Jones. And Alex comes on 
				and he starts talking about this New World Order stuff, and I 
				got this real kind of pinge in my spirit because I’d kept this 
				information hidden since ’95 to 2003. I said: I’m going to 
				release this information. So I called into the show a couple of 
				times and I told them I have information about Oklahoma City.
				
				And the guy who asked me to do a really extensive interview was 
				a Pastor Butch Paugh on Genesis Network. Well, after that, the 
				network called me back and said: We want you to do the show. So 
				in February of 2004 I started doing a radio show on Genesis.
				
				Now, before that, I had done a kind of, like an entertainment 
				show, called Laughter is the Best Medicine on Clear Channel. So 
				I’d go there on Wednesday nights with Mark Alan Curry. We used 
				to have a fun time going down to the Clear Channel studios in 
				Denver and just crack jokes back and forth and talk about 
				wellness and toxicology and environmental medicine, and 
				anti-aging and things like that.
				
				Well, since that time... You really need to understand... I’ve 
				been in so many places... at the wrong place at the wrong time. 
				[laughs]
				
				I was the doctor for the Englewood Fire Department and the 
				ladder truck that was actually there on the scene, including a 
				number of the other people there, so I know exactly what 
				happened. It was a complete government op at Columbine.
				
				I was the doctor for the first kid shot in Columbine. And I had 
				one pediatric patient, and he had only started working there, 
				going to school, because he had a special-ed need - Mark Taylor 
				- three weeks before. Right?
				
				And when he came out of hospital after two 14-hour procedures 
				and 57 units of blood, his mother asked me to put my hands on 
				him and pray for him. And I have an intuitive gift of 
				discernment that’s very unique. So I put my hands on him.
				
				And I knew right away. I said: You have an abscess in your chest 
				that they missed, and I’m going to put you on a specific 
				antibiotic and in three days to the hour you’re going to call me 
				in pain and I’m going to put you in hospital and drain it.
				
				And to the hour he called me. OK? I put him in the hospital and I 
				told the radiologist, I said: Now, when you go and do the CT 
				scan, put this catheter into the abscess.
				
				He said: Well how do you know that?
				
				I said: Well, when you do the CT you’re going to see the 
				abscess. Put the catheter in, drain it, and call a thoracic 
				surgeon. OK?
				
				So he did and he said: How did you know that?
				
				And I said: It’s a long story. OK? So don’t get... [Bill laughs]
				
				Three weeks later he’s walking around with a PCA pump getting 
				fentanyl. So he can press the pump every so many minutes and the 
				pump will then remember so he can’t press it too many times, and 
				he gets a little burst of fentanyl. And he’s in agony.
				
				And this abscess is about the size of a fist, and the thoracic 
				surgeon’s itching. He says: OK, well, we’re going to have to cut 
				this out, because if we don’t the abscess will expand or it’ll 
				go septic and he’ll die.
				
				So I told Mark. He’s sixteen-and-a-half; he’s not really bright; 
				his mother is kind of emotionally a basket case, and he said: 
				Well. I want... They were, you know, they were “believers,” you 
				know, Christians. They don’t believe in miracles. They don’t 
				believe that we have the authority to take authority over 
				reality, whether it’s our physical bodies or whatever.
				
				So I said: Look Mark, I’m going to pray for you. I said: And 
				tomorrow morning instead of you going in for surgery, you’re 
				going to walk out of here.
				
				And at first he looked at me like: Whoa, that’s a pretty bold 
				thing to say.
				
				So I stayed up all night and I prayed for him. Next morning I 
				came in about 7.15 and I just put my hand on him and said: God, 
				you saved this kid from seven bullets to the chest. Right? And 
				one to the arm and leg. And the bullets actually went behind his 
				heart and in front of the aorta. One hit the T-9 vertebra and 
				knocked a fragment off.
				
				And this is the way I talked to God, I said: You’re going to 
				heal him immediately and you’re going to transform his body so 
				he’ll be a witness, because if you didn’t allow him to survive 
				this without being able to tell the truth of what happened in 
				Columbine.
				
				So I put my hand on him. It was like holding a high-tension 
				power line. All of a sudden it just felt like this energy [makes 
				sizzling noise] coming right through me. And I could see 
				literally with the mind’s eye, if you want to call it, The 
				Creator. I could see right down to his cells, and everything, 
				and it was gone.
				
				I said: Mark, get your clothes ready. We’re walking out of here.
				
				BR: Wow! Yeah.
				
				BD: And I walked up to the front desk to the nurse and I said: 
				He’s not going to surgery for a 7-hour procedure to cut out four 
				ribs and take out this abscess. He’s coming home.
				
				She looked at me like: Oh-oh, this guy’s a nut case. How can we 
				get psychiatry down here? Right?
				
				I said: No. Repeat the CT scan. It’s gone. So they repeated the 
				CT scan and an hour-and-a-half later, he was hopping and 
				skipping out of the hospital.
				
				BR: Fabulous.
				
				KC: Now isn’t info about this on the web, about this boy and his 
				mother in regard to you?
				
				BD: Oh, what happened is they get involved with... The mother 
				has a problem; she’s a manic depressive. And they offered all 
				kinds of big movie scripts and money and everything and Mark 
				actually...
				
				Right now I just got a contact from her doctor just last week 
				because I’m trying to help the doctor. He called me all the way 
				from Iowa, saying: Please, you’re one of the few people that 
				care for Mark. And I still do, and I care for his mom, too.
				
				But they said a lot of nasty things because they got involved 
				with some pastors, and they got a big possibility of a movie 
				contract.
				
				And what was happening is I was working and my wife was working 
				on collecting a ton of information, because we were going to 
				private showings of videotape that the public didn’t see. I got 
				a chance to interview and talk to almost every other child that 
				survived the Columbine shooting.
				
				So there were many of the kids that actually died of SWAT Team 
				bullets. There were at least, probably, we think up to 4 kids 
				that may have died from SWAT Team bullets, from the forensics.
				
				And Mark literally stayed and lived with us for almost a 
				year-and-a-half. He went to vacation with us, even to Las Vegas. 
				Right? Even when they asked me to go up in January of 2000 to 
				speak at the Full Gospel Fellowship, I paid my own ticket. We 
				didn’t ask for anything.
				
				So what happened is, the mother had been contacted by a big 
				movie company, wanting to turn this into a Columbine movie, and 
				they got real angry that we wouldn’t just hand everything over 
				or do things their way.
				
				I said: No, no, we’re not going to turn this into a sideshow 
				here. This is real serious; we had this kid survive; we had this 
				miraculous thing happen; we don’t want this to turn into a 
				sideshow. And that’s where the negativity started.
				
				BR: Yeah.
				
				BD: But it’s really unfortunate that happened, because Mark is 
				still, you know, he’s very sick right now. He’s been in and out 
				of a psychiatric facility.
				
				KC: Mm.
				
				BD: His doctor, one of his doctors, in Iowa contacted me: What 
				can we do to try to help him?
				
				I said: Well, you know he needs serious help. But a lot of the 
				time they give these young people drugs that I think are 
				patently toxic.
				
				KC: Yes.
				
				BD: We know for example, when you give somebody that’s manic 
				depressive, SS or I drugs like Luvoc, Prozac, etc., they go over 
				the deep end. Unfortunately, his doctors gave him the wrong 
				drugs.
				
				KC: OK.
				
				BD: OK? These drugs came out of Hoffmann-LaRoche. They came out 
				of mind control projects in the Soviet Union and Germany going 
				right back to 
				
				I.G. Farben. They get right back to G proteins. 
				And he had a real bad reaction from whatever they gave him.
				
				BR: Yes. Now if I can steer this back now...
				
				KC: Yes.
				
				BR: Because that was a beautiful story, and it’s great to have 
				that on record, but how you were in the right place at the right 
				time so many times that most people would never believe it. But 
				backed up from that you’ve been in the right place at the right 
				time for a reason here and that is to give what you would 
				probably call your testimony.
				
				BD: Well, I’m a witness. I’m almost like Daniel in the lion’s 
				den. I’ve been in places that most people can’t even imagine.
				
				Like in 1977 I was supposed to do research on MS [multiple 
				sclerosis] at the Santa Monica VA Hospital, part of UCLA. And 
				one of the projects was to work on a Ph.D. neurology residency 
				under Dr. Wallace Tourtellotte.
				
				And the other four projects were all classified. Four of them 
				were actually cybernetic projects. One was actually a helmet 
				that would convert thoughts directly to on-flight commands 
				directly to a supercomputer that they already had with command, 
				or symbols, that would be projected onto the canopy of the jet 
				so you could fly the jet by thoughts, fire off ordnances.
				
				And the other three projects were to take prisoners from West 
				Orange and Irvine State Penitentiaries and wet-wire their brains 
				with platinum and palladium micro-wires.
				
				And Dr. Tourtellotte had a custom-made CT implanter that was 
				used with a CT scan that could implant micro-wires in specific 
				nuclei in the brain to actually use supercomputers - that were 
				classified - to convert neural-net stochastic firing sequences 
				so they’d get particular images. So you could control their 
				behavior, see what they see, hear what they hear.
				
				And I turned it down. I said: No. You people are crazy!
				
				KC: OK, to turn them into Manchurian Candidates.
				
				BD: Yeah, they actually had a thing called the “Rambo-chip,” 
				that they had back in the ’60s and this is part of Delgado’s 
				research at Yale. They had a thing called the Rambo-chip and 
				what the Rambo-chip was, was a rage-control chip that was in the 
				subthalamic nucleus that could actually control rage. You flip 
				the switch and they would kill, and you would turn it off and 
				they’d stop.
				
				So this was one of the things the residents would laugh at: Ha, 
				ha, ha. We can do this stuff. But I think that’s pretty 
				ghoulish.
				
				And people don’t understand that a lot of the people that they 
				give these projects have 180-plus IQs, but they’re twisted. OK? 
				Or if they’re not, they’re compromised. And if they eventually 
				discover it and they try to pull back, they do things like 
				“patch” them. You ever heard of what a patch is?
				
				KC: I’m not sure.
				
				BD: OK. A patch is where they give you an intravenous patch. The 
				patch lasts three days. OK? Or a transdermal patch. And if you 
				don’t get the next patch in three days you die a horrific death.
				
				BR: Mm hm.
				
				BD: OK? So they’ve got you on a short string.
				
				BR: Gotcha. OK. Now, some of this is on record on the Granada 
				Forum Lecture and a lot of people watching this will already be 
				familiar with that material.
				
				BD: Right.
				
				BR: We’re nearly two years further on from there. Where are we 
				now? What does this mean for the human race and for the 
				individuals watching this now?
				
				BD: Well the timeline to watch for is actually the nation of 
				Israel. OK? And the timeline to watch is...
				
				And that’s why my calling is particularly important, because I’m 
				going to re-release my book, Clay and Iron, here sometime in the 
				not too distant future. Right?
				
				KC: OK.
				
				BD: Yeah. So if you look at the nation of Israel, there’s so 
				much contradiction. All the stuff with Iran is all over Israel. 
				OK?
				
				BR: Yes.
				
				BD: Even American foreign policy. The reason why they went into 
				Iraq was Israel. A trillion dollars spent, the collapse of the 
				economy - it’s all tied back to Israel. OK?
				
				And people say: Well, why is Israel so important? Why was there 
				a first holocaust? Why is there planning to be a second?”
				
				And it’s really pretty simple. Think of it this way: If the 
				Creator of the universe made a people, or a group of people, you 
				could call it a mixed group of people, the ancient tribes of 
				Israel, as an object-lesson to the world, a scapegoat in a 
				sense, a way of explaining to people: If you try to follow The 
				Law you get condemned and destroyed. OK?
				
				And what would happen is that... The original books of the Bible 
				spoke about a God you could not see that was the Creator that 
				created you in his image. OK? And, even if they didn’t 
				understand it, they tried to adhere to it. They kept every jot 
				and title. Right?
				
				And so the “People of the Book,” which is what they used to be 
				called - they weren’t called the Jews or the Israelites - they 
				had to be wiped out because they would tell people. Even if they 
				went off and they went through a reformation or they learned 
				from other religious groups, whether it’s Buddhists, or Hopi, or 
				natives, they’d eventually start getting beyond religion.
				
				As I said in my talk on The Granada Forum, 10,000 years from now 
				will there be anything called “religion”? Of course not. It 
				won’t exist because we’ll have a full knowledge of the Creator 
				Gods and what they are. Because we can’t exist and transcend 
				beyond the technology unless we do that. We won’t survive.
				
				KC: Right, but people...
				
				BD: In other words, the two are mutually exclusive.
				
				KC: But to get back to what the role is of Israel.
				
				BD: The role of Israel is a timepiece. It’s actually a 
				detonator. It’s a transformative event. It’s like the ultimate, 
				if you want to call it, death trap for civilization.
				
				So what’s happened? For example, I’ve had on my show numerous 
				times, 
				
				Barry Chamish. A good example is, the nation of Israel 
				arose, and the holocaust... The greatest lies in modern history 
				have been about the holocaust. Yes, they killed almost 7 million 
				Jews. Yes they killed probably, of others, up to maybe 23 
				million.
				
				But the real goal was not only a ritual sacrifice to the 
				transdimensional demonic realm. Right? But the real goal 
				transcends that. It was to wipe out the idea of a Creator God 
				and that we’re an incarnation of the Creator.
				
				Because eventually if the reformation and all these other things 
				were to continue to proceed... Since the breakup of the control 
				of the 
				Roman Catholic Church, and all the spinoffs and everybody 
				trying to get into the 
				
				New Age, and all the other religious 
				things, where there’s a return to spirituality...
				
				The big move right now is not toward religion, it’s toward 
				spirituality, whether they’re coming from a Christian viewpoint, 
				a Jewish viewpoint, a Buddhist viewpoint. And they’re all 
				starting to kind of compare notes and realize that, even though 
				they use different terms, they’re starting to understand there’s 
				a commonality there.
				
				KC: Sure.
				
				BR: Yep.
				
				BD: Right.
				
				KC: But still, to steer you back. So the role of Israel at this 
				time...
				
				BD: Well, the role of Israel is primarily to act on the, if you 
				want to call it, on the Luciferian serpentine side, is to act as 
				a detonator for the final annihilation of mankind.
				
				BR: So, in practical terms...
				
				BD: They use it as a final focal point.
				
				KC: You mean they’re going to attack Iran, and in return...
				
				BD: Yeah, or the threat of an attack will set in motion the 
				peace treaty that’ll partition the State of Israel. Just think 
				of it this way. Logically, if you’re from another world and you 
				were to see a nation that’s the size of, you know, a little tiny 
				strip of land anywhere from 10 to 16 miles long - the third 
				nuclear power... Probably the most advanced in terms of 
				biological weapons on the planet is the State of Israel.
				
				KC: Yes.
				
				BD: They’re number one.
				
				BR: OK.
				
				BD: They have their own space-based imaging systems, ImageSat. 
				They’ve got all kinds of weapons, when they were kind of on the 
				outs, that they developed with the South Africans. They even, a 
				lot of the time, buy their own jets and just stack ’em right up. 
				They have the number one air force on the planet in terms of 
				rapid response, and killing capacity. Number one, not number two 
				or three.
				
				What happens is, you divide that nation and they have no 
				boundary zone where they can protect themselves. And the only 
				thing they can do is to pull a “Samson Option” and hit a button. 
				They have space-base platforms. Because Israel has them. Israel 
				has space-based weapons platforms, imaging systems, terrible 
				stuff. They could wipe out every city within 10,000 miles of 
				them. They can just “bam.” They’re gone. OK?
				
				BR: But they...
				
				KC: What is the plan?
				
				BD: The plan is... It’s all being set up because, you see, the 
				
				leaders of Israel are Satanic Luciferian. The entire State of 
				Israel was set up, as Barry Chamish has said, so they could 
				cleanse themselves of any who is a “Torah Jew,” anyone who 
				understands the nature of the Creator God.
				
				Even if they didn’t understand the depths of it, they didn’t 
				want anybody to understand that they were created in the image 
				of a God and they’re a spirit having a physical existence on 
				this plane of existence.
				
				They wanted to then replace them with a Luciferic idea, an 
				agnostic idea, a communist idea. So the State of Israel was 
				originally sponsored with the Soviet, the actual Communist 
				Soviet. OK?
				
				BR: Mm hm.
				
				BD: And the idea was to create an agnostic Luciferian society 
				where they follow the highest tenants of Babylonian Kabbalah, 
				which means that they themselves are Gods. OK?
				
				In other words, they replaced God because therefore they are the 
				energetic intelligent force that’s willing to use good or evil, 
				following this 
				
				Shabbatai Tzvi, you know the false anti-Messiah, 
				1666, and 
				
				Jacob Frank, to actually create a world order where 
				“these Luciferic cabalists would control the world.”
				
				And that’s what happening now. You can see it with the financial 
				system. You can see it with the political system. You can see it 
				with everything, that these Luciferic Satanists...
				
				The two groups at the very top are Teutonic Knights, who think 
				they’re bloodline descendants through Yeshua Ha'Mashiach Jesus 
				and King David. That’s one group, which are all the Royals of 
				Europe. And the other group are the Sabbatian Luciferic 
				Satanists - Satanic Jews.
				
				KC: OK.
				
				BD: Those people run the world.
				
				KC: Led by the Pope. Right?
				
				BD: Led by 
				the Pope and 
				
				the Black Pope and the 
				
				Knights of Malta, 
				and they’re totally controlling it. And they’re interacting at 
				such a level that they literally have physical presence of these 
				demonic reptilian beings right even in the Vatican...
				
				
				BR: Yep.
				
				BD: Right in, you know, and people need to understand.
				
				When you get these deepest underground bases... I had one 
				Canadian engineer who actually controls and engineers and takes 
				care of the Aurora Space Fleet, that fly out of our underground 
				bases in central Germany and the Black Forest and fly to our 
				Moon bases and on to Mars.
				
				And he’s terrified to come on the show. And I’ve been talking to 
				him for the last couple of years. But he’s showed me enough 
				technical information and facts and sent me stuff that I know 
				that his story is real. Right? So I’m going to repeat it.
				
				After 10 months of psychological testing, they finally said: 
				Well, now you’re in the deepest of the D.U.M.B One Bases and 
				we’re going to bring you down to the final level. And he gets 
				down there and all of these beings are right there in the flesh. 
				OK?
				
				BR: Mm hm.
				
				BD: Just like out of Star Wars. OK? It’s really crazy, but he 
				says it’s real.
				
				And I said: Why won’t you come on and tell us?
				
				Because, he said, I don’t want to shatter people’s religious 
				beliefs.
				
				And I said: Well, I do want to shatter them, because it’s a 
				sacred cow, and in fact their religion, whether they’re this 
				group of Christians, or this group of Jews, or this group of 
				Buddhists, they’re all wrong. They’re all wrong.
				
				In other words, I call it [religion] “real lies going on.” It 
				doesn’t mean you throw out the baby with the bathwater, like 
				Bill Marr in his movie that’s coming out this week called 
				Religious, you know, when he says anybody who’s religious is a 
				fool; they’re an idiot...
				
				KC: Mm hm.
				
				BD: ...because of all the foolishness that religions are doing – 
				like, I call them the “Armageddonites” - that are supposedly 
				Christians that believe that they have to bathe the world in 
				blood and fire.
				
				KC: Right.
				
				BD: Or the Sabbatians who think: Well, we’ll just pull the 
				Samson Option and go down to our underground bases. Because they 
				have a ton of ’em down there.
				
				BR: Hm.
				
				BD: Or the Illuminists who think: Well, who cares if we blow up 
				the world? We’ll just go to our 
				
				underground bases and we’ll 
				survive and then we’ll come back up in a decade or century. Like 
				the Morlocks, you know, of H.G. Wells’ Time Machine.
				
				And it’s insanity. Because they’re not going to survive what’s 
				going to come. They’re not going to survive it. OK?
				
				And they need to grasp that what we’re heading for here is, 
				unless they take up the scepter of what they are and the power 
				that they have to decide for life - just like Moses when he 
				took the six tribes in Mount Ibal and Mount Garizin and put 
				between [them] an amount of cursings and an amount of blessings 
				and he said: Today, choose life.
				
				In other words, you’re not taking away their choice. You’re 
				saying: You need to grow up and you need to stop talking about 
				easy-be-livism, prosperity gospel, all this other foolishness, 
				and you need to start talking about relating to other humans.
				
				You can’t fund a country on a credit note to go and kill a 
				million and a half Iraqis. You cannot decide to invade Iran, 
				when we know that they hit the Bashear reactor and 450 targets.
				
				I’ve got my military contacts inside there, and experts have 
				told me in the last 4 to 6 weeks, that it’ll kill between 1.5 to 
				15 million in the first two weeks, and it could be as high as 32 
				billion plus. And the radiation cloud will go downwind and will 
				move directly through Yemen, all the way through to Saudi 
				Arabia, and heading down toward China and Japan.
				
				BR: And that’s after an Israeli strike? Or the Americans?
				
				BD: Right. Well, what happens is, if they start it, the 
				Americans are already pre-positioned there. So the thing is, 
				what this will do...
				
				KC: Well, how can this be prevented?
				
				BD: It can be prevented... Well the first thing that they’re 
				going to do is, they’re going to try to bring us to the brink of 
				destruction, and then set up their peace treaty to divide the 
				land. And what happens is...
				
				Olmert has already promised that he’s going to let this go 
				through within twelve months of him leaving, before they could 
				have a transition to the next Prime Minister, which means we’ve 
				a time window, probably 11 months now, where they’re going to 
				actually put in the final treaty to divide the city of Jerusalem 
				and divide the State of Israel.
				
				That’s setting the detonator. You can’t do that. If you do that, 
				you guarantee a thermonuclear war or a chemical / biological / 
				scalar war that’s going to end civilization on this planet.
				
				You cannot divide the land of the State of Israel. You have to 
				have an inclusive government that can include Arabs, and 
				Christians, and Jews, and people from Baha’i or whatever.
				
				KC: And Palestinians.
				
				BD: And Palestinians. And you have to not make them feel like 
				third-world citizens or that if they intermarry, or if they 
				evangelize they’re going to end up in jail or whatever. In other 
				words, you have to have dialogue between people and not have 
				apartheid, which is what they have there.
				
				BR: I haven’t understood you there, personally. If you’re saying 
				that the State of Israel becomes divided, what’s the connection 
				between that and the inevitability of a huge war?
				
				BD: Because Israel will be pushed to the point, when the 
				conflict reaches its culmination, that it will start the trigger 
				for a thermonuclear conflict.
				
				BR: Between who?
				
				BD: Between all of these great nations.
				
				It’s a bipolar world. We have right now the western alliance of 
				the Illuminati with, you know, Britain and America and all of 
				their allies.
				
				And on the other side we have the Shanghai Cooperation nucleus: 
				Russia and China and all their sphere of influence. So it’s not 
				a unipolar world; it’s a bipolar world.
				
				BR: Mm hm.
				
				BD: OK? And people need to know this. One of the things that 
				happened back in the spring of 1999, I was taken supernaturally, 
				actually through the ground, and saw the geological formations 
				and the oil at the southwest end of the Dead Sea. And there’s a 
				lot of oil there - 27.2 trillion barrels - and it’s renewable. 
				OK?
				
				KC: Wow.
				
				BD: And it’s from the fault line that runs all the way from 
				Turkey right through Kenya to Lake Victoria. OK? And the Dead 
				Sea itself was created when the oil came up. The magma... 
				Actually from the oil field, it mainly hit along that fault line 
				when the Earth shifted back at the time of Abraham. It actually 
				hit that fault line and caused an explosion equal to 500,000 Nagasakis.
				
				
				BR: Mm.
				
				BD: The guy who told me that was the head of the Israeli Oil 
				Company - okay? - who discovered all the oil fields in Zohar, 
				all the oil fields down in the Sinai Peninsula.
				
				KC: They’re actually not using that oil. Right?
				
				BD: Afterwards, I was asked to go over there when I gave some of 
				my presentations on that radio show with Stan Johnson, by 
				Hayseed Stevens, and the Israeli Oil Company, and Ariel Sharon. 
				I was actually asked to go over to Israel and say a prayer at 
				the southwest end of the Dead Sea, at the bottom of Masada, 
				which I did on Rosh Hashanah right at sundown, and blow the 
				shofar, and actually say this Hebrew prayer.
				
				And I did that. And I warned them. I said: Now, I’m a prophet 
				and I’m telling you, if you try to expose to the world that this 
				oil is here, you’re going to precipitate an immediate war. 
				You’re going to have millions of people coming in here. Because 
				there’s more oil there than the whole world put together. Right?
				
				KC: OK, but you’re exposing that right now.
				
				BD: I’m exposing that now because it has to be exposed.
				
				KC: OK.
				
				BD: It’s the time now to expose it. Because what’s going on now 
				is... Basically there’s a number of things in motion now that... 
				Probably in less than a year they’re going to sign the final 
				treaty. If they sign that treaty...
				
				And it’s also tied to other events happening around 2012. 
				Because as we pass through the center-point of the galactic 
				plane, there’s a great danger that we’re going to have 
				geomagnetic collapse of the magnetic field around the Earth. 
				We’re also going to have very, very high risk in the next 
				several years of major Solar Mass Ejections that trigger off 
				super-earthquakes and super-tsunamis.
				
				BR: Mm.
				
				BD: A very, very high risk of that. OK?
				
				KC: That’s right.
				
				BR: We’ve been told this independently.
				
				BD: Right. So people need to know that, you know, things that 
				happen on the spiritual level also descend and have effects on 
				the energetic and the physical level. And as we get into wrong 
				timelines and make wrong decisions corporately, we move along 
				those timelines toward things that can be very destructive.
				
				So what I tell people right now is, it’s not the time to flee, 
				but there’s going to be incredible pain because they’re moving 
				toward 
				
				the Amero. I have already talked to people who are very 
				reliable they have already seen the Amero notes in Mexico City.
				
				KC: So you’re here in Oceanside, California. Right?
				
				BD: Because I was told to be here.
				
				KC: And why? Could you...
				
				BD: I know partially why. The way it happened was back in 
				February my wife, who is very intuitive too, she told me, she 
				says: Bill, we’re supposed to move.
				
				I said: Well I don’t want to move. I’m comfortable. See, I 
				didn’t really want to move from Denver to go back home but I was 
				with my mom before she died in October a year ago.
				
				And so I went to sleep that night and I said: God, tell me why.
				
				And he did. He sent me an angel who told me: You’re going to go 
				to Oceanside-Vista.
				
				I said: I don’t want to go there. I don’t even know anybody 
				there. There’s not even any jobs there or anything that I want 
				to do there. Right? And he started laughing at me. Right? And 
				cracking jokes, because...
				
				People need to know that they’re watching us and they know the 
				future that we don’t know. Right? And a lot of times we probably 
				wouldn’t do things we have to do, because some of the stuff we 
				have to do is pretty painful and messy.
				
				BR: So what’s going down that brings you here?
				
				BD: Well, part of it is being here now so you could even do this 
				taping.
				
				BR: OK.
				
				BD: Because there’s people here that have to wake up. They’re 
				going to have to hear this message to know that I’m called, 
				what’s actually called, “The Sons and Daughters of the Most High 
				God.” I’m one called “The Witnesses.”
				
				Now, I’m going to back this up a bit so you’ll get an 
				understanding of just how important this meeting is tonight.
				
				In the first century, my family were in this 24-family cycle of 
				the Cohanim (also spelled 
				
				Kohanim) that actually served in the 
				temple at the time of Yeshua. And a prophecy was given directly 
				by Emmanuel, directly to my ancestor, that was written down in 
				the first century and passed on all the way through to my 
				Great-uncle Michael, who died in the ’70s.
				
				That was supposed to be given to me ,because I was the eldest of 
				the eldest. His brother thought he was the one called to give 
				this word, which is to blow the trumpet of Elijah and actually 
				tell people about the coming of the new age, the new world that 
				was going to come, a world of peace, where there wouldn’t be 
				lack or all these things.
				
				And that was passed down for almost 19 centuries. Right? That 
				person is me. OK?
				
				And the reason why I know that is because at [age] eight and a 
				half when I had my tonsil surgery done... I had a French surgeon 
				who was operating on me in Colchester County Hospital. They cut 
				an artery in my neck and I bled to death. OK? There’s a little 
				guillotine-style thing, and they pull the tonsils through with 
				tongs, cut it off. And I had an aberrant artery and I bled to 
				death.
				
				And I went down the tunnel of light. And of course, the way it 
				happened is, all of a sudden I’m floating over the operating 
				room table, I’m looking down, I can see this little boy, and I 
				see blood spurting everywhere. I say: Gee, that looks like me. I 
				didn’t feel any pain.
				
				And all of a sudden I’m standing there and I’m walking around, 
				trying to talk to the nurses and doctors and nobody would pay 
				attention to me. So I’m getting very frustrated. So I walk 
				toward the door and I just went right through it.
				
				So I turned right and I walked down the hall, and I saw the 
				nursery, and I saw these babies all bound up tight on their 
				side, and the nurses were trying to keep them, you know, because 
				if one starts, they all start to cry. And they all had little 
				different colored blankets on them. So one baby started to cry 
				and they all started to cry.
				
				And all of a sudden everything started to fade into an inky 
				black, a black so black you could feel it, and I felt like I was 
				being squenched through a pinhole. Right? And then all of a 
				sudden I cried out, you know: God, where am I? Something 
				terrible is happening. Right?
				
				And I saw a pinpoint of light and all of a sudden there was 
				these intersecting crimson lines, and I’m going down this 
				tunnel, and I say: It’s too fast, God! It’s too fast.
				
				And then all of a sudden I’m in this place of light, and across 
				in the other side of this space there’s a man standing there, 
				you know, almost glowing light. And he had a broad golden sash 
				with a double-corded belt, and what I call brass-like sandals.
				
				And his forehead almost looked like there were puncture marks, 
				and it was still swollen, and you could see where his beard was 
				plucked out. He had reddish hair just like a... The best way to 
				describe him would be a Norwegian, only he had olive-colored 
				skin. He looked like a big, you know, rock-hard kind of 3-percent 
				body mass, kind of a carpenter with big hands and big knuckles. 
				And he looked like a guy that could, you know, make anything. 
				Right? Only there was a... they fell to the middle part of his 
				arm and leg.
				
				And as he appeared, there was a big chasm that appeared in these 
				clouds. There was all light all around. And I saw this little 
				wooden bridge.
				
				And he said: Don’t cross the wooden bridge or the silver cord 
				will break.
				
				And I said: What’s that?
				
				And he says: I will bring it into your remembrance. Because, in 
				other words, you know everything, you just have to remember it.
				
				I remember going down the tunnel of light. I can remember this 
				cord that seemed to come out from the base of my brain and my 
				throat and it went down. It was like a cord of water. He called 
				it “the cord of living waters.” It looked like a neon cord that 
				kind of scintillated with light. Right?
				
				And he said: If you go, you won’t be able to return.
				
				I said: Where am I?
				
				And he said: You’re at the gates of paradise or heaven, the 
				eternal NOW where there is no past, no present or future but 
				everything that you think immediately is. Right?
				
				So I said: Well, can you show me?
				
				So all of a sudden he’s holding me by his right hand, and I’m 
				flying over the Golden City and I can see everything. And I 
				would say, because there’s no time and space, he showed me 
				worlds, beings, planets, civilizations, that I’m going to talk 
				about a little bit today.
				
				But literally the amount of things he showed me about the 
				universe... The universe is an elemental particle in a larger 
				universe. He told me about time-space. He told me about quantum 
				physics. He told me everything. That’s why I was about to go 
				into nuclear physics at MIT. OK?
				
				BR: Yep.
				
				BD: He showed me beings that later on in life I’d say: Oh, I saw 
				that in Star Wars. OK? Because these things did exist. I saw 
				them, and I was there, to their worlds.
				
				I can’t tell you how long it was, but in lineal time it had to 
				be many centuries that I spent there. It wasn’t a matter of a 
				few minutes, like some people who have these near death 
				experiences. I was there for an indeterminate period of time. It 
				was so long, you know, and the amount of... and I only talk 
				about a very tiny portion of what I know because it’s so beyond 
				the pale of human understanding, of civilizations and worlds and 
				things that people cannot even grasp, so I don’t talk about it. 
				So all of a sudden...
				
				KC: OK, so you went to this place...
				
				BC: So after... I’m back. And all of a sudden he’s back on his 
				side and now I’m back on my side and I’m thinking: OK. After 
				this indeterminate time I’m back on my side and I say: Look...
				
				And then he spoke to me telepathically; he didn’t have to speak. 
				And he said: Well, what is your decision?
				
				And I said: I want to do the right thing. And I said: Well, if 
				I’m going to go back, what am I to do?
				
				And all of a sudden he’s holding me with his hand again, and I’m 
				giddy. We must be 400 miles above the Earth and I look down.
				
				This time he had on a thing, a 
				
				tallit, and I didn’t know what a 
				tallit was because I was raised a little Roman Catholic boy. 
				Right? So I saw this tallit and it was splattered with blood on 
				it, this tallit, which is a prayer shawl. And I looked down over 
				the Earth and I could see the edge of the horizon shimmering out 
				across the dark of space.
				
				And he said: Behold my blue jewel, the Earth. Right?
				
				And I said: It’s alive!
				
				He said: Yes! You know. Right? In other words, the 
				Earth is a 
				living thing. Right?
				
				And I heard a voice behind me that sounded like a deep voice, 
				one of the... what we could call “the angelic.” And he said: 
				Behold the Voice of the Seven Thunders.
				
				So the first time he said Behold he held his hand like this 
				[gestures] - and I don’t know what that symbol means - but he 
				held his index and middle finger and pointed down toward the 
				Earth and he said Behold.
				
				And all of a sudden I saw fireballs rising off the Earth 
				everywhere, but particularly across continental America, a lot 
				of them.And I thought: Oh, this is a light show.
				
				I mean, this is great, I’m a little kid here, and I’m still in 
				my little hospital gown from having my surgery and I’m 
				free-floating up in space and I’m looking down over, and I see 
				all these fireballs.
				
				And then he looked back at me sternly, like: You don’t get it.
				
				Part of it is, our civilization has been conceived almost like 
				in a spiritual womb - Earth - and the timeline that we are 
				selecting corporately will decide whether or not we’re stillborn 
				or aborted or whether our civilization will move on to join the 
				Ben Elohim, the Council of the Eschaton, the advanced 
				civilizations that are literally the incarnation of the Creator 
				of the Universe, in whatever form, whether they’re human, 
				nonhuman, or other civilizations...
				
				Because at some point we’re going to “have contact.” Well, how 
				do we have contact?
				
				What I’ve presenting is that this is the transition point from 
				“the past, which is religion,” which is based on ignorance. You 
				know, like the Buddhists try to say - a lot of people say I’m a 
				Buddhist, but I’m not - is that all pain and suffering is due 
				to ignorance.
				
				The real problem is that, in a future where we have a total 
				understanding of ourselves and the nature of the universe, 
				there’s not even room for religion because religion is like 
				recipe cards. It’s irrelevant. It’s like: This is my past 
				history; these are my recipe cards. It’s dogma. It’s replacing 
				the ever-present knowledge of what is right or wrong. Because 
				you don’t need to be told. Right?
				
				BR: Sure.
				
				KC: Right. But let’s get back...
				
				BD: Right. So the key to why Israel is so important is because 
				Israel is an object-lesson for the whole planet. Israel is, if 
				you want to call it, purposely set up to be the nexus decision 
				point of civilization.
				
				BR: OK.
				
				BD: And how that is handled determines whether or not our 
				civilization moves forward. If you look at America right now, 
				the trillion dollar debt of these wars, in the last years since 
				9/11.
				
				The people who put the bombs in the building were under orders 
				from Project Omega, which is, you know, the overseeing agency of 
				all the secret agencies on the planet.
				
				BR: Run by the Vatican.
				
				BD: The ones who put the bombs in the buildings were contract. 
				They could have been any secret agency but they happened to be 
				very experienced Israeli Mossad nuclear agents who put the 
				nuclear bombs in the World Trade Center. OK?
				
				Now they do that because they want to have a hatred of Jewish 
				people. And I’m not an anti-Semite - I have Jewish blood, 
				Iranian blood, Armenian blood, etcetera, so I have...
				
				KC: Why would the Mossad want hatred of Jewish people?
				
				BD: It’s part of their dialectic of control.
				
				BR: Mm hm.
				
				BD: Just like the death of millions of Jews in the Second World 
				War was actually at the hands of not only the Sabbatians who 
				want to cleanse the whole, if you want to call it, the whole 
				people of Israel of anyone who “had any religious Torah belief 
				in a Creator God.” So they had an anti-messiah, an anti-God, a 
				we-are-God.
				
				The real purpose of the Kabbalah, if you want - the highest 
				level, which is the highest level of all Masonry, is Kabbalah. 
				Right? - is that we are... The revelation is: You are the Luciferic-Satanic power. You don’t need to go to a higher God; 
				you are god.
				
				BR: OK. Now...
				
				BD: Which is very different, right?
				
				BR: If this all about Israel being an example, right in center 
				stage for everyone to look at and everyone to learn from, with 
				all kinds of things at stake, what can the ordinary person do to 
				influence these choreographed events?
				
				The people watching this, who are even very aware, very well 
				informed, some of them the most aware, most informed people 
				around, they’ll be saying: Well what can I do? This is already 
				set in train.
				
				BD: Well, the real issue... It comes down to one real simple 
				thing. It comes down to: What are they going to do personally to 
				come out of religion? OK? Religion is the toxic poison of the 
				modern world. And people say: Well, you’re talking in terms of 
				spirituality like a prophet, like Israel. But people, 
				understand, Yeshua himself, Jesus was not religious.
				
				BR: Mm hm. Of course.
				
				BD: He was a spiritual leader. OK?
				
				KC: Yes.
				
				BD: He was leading people away from religion to relationship. 
				OK?
				
				KC: Absolutely.
				
				BR: OK. And any of the great leaders, even if they only had a 
				tiny portion of that, tried to teach similar pieces of it, you 
				know, whether you’re talking about the prophets or people who 
				are spiritual leaders of the native peoples, or in China or 
				elsewhere, they’re talking about... They all basically had a 
				portion of that truth.
				
				The greatest portion that was ever released was the fullness of 
				the Father in the Flesh, Yeshua Ha'Mashiach Jesus, which is why 
				the whole of the Old Testament and New all point back toward 
				him, because he was a great teacher.
				
				Now what’s happening in our world right now, is that everything 
				happening in our world - 
				
				financial collapse, 
				
				control matrix, 
				technologies - everything is all centered around Israel. 
				Everything. OK?
				
				In fact, the two great empires of the Shanghai Cooperation 
				Organization and the Western Empire are all meeting there, and 
				the goal of the Teutonic Knights, which are the Knights of 
				Malta, is to have a great temple there where they can set up 
				their world government from their temple. Weird, hey?
				
				But it’s happening because it’s happening in the spiritual realm 
				above, and as above/below, and it’s also descending and 
				happening on the physical realm.
				
				Because we have to answer this question correctly, which is: To 
				transcend technology, we need to transcend religion to a 
				spiritual relationship. And we need to understand that when God 
				is speaking, whether it’s through the ancient peoples of Israel, 
				or the Hopi Indians or whatever, he’s speaking to them, and they 
				only have their portion.
				
				They have to understand God is speaking in a language of 
				history, a language to their spirits, a language of knowing 
				things. Or, if they do not transcend spiritually, they’re going 
				to die together.
				
				KC: So what these people can do that are listening to this is 
				basically reconnect with the Creator.
				
				BD: And also stop buying into the Armageddon Night idea; we’re 
				going to have a rapture; we have to be bathed with fire; the 
				Luciferic idea, somehow that I can decide what is good or evil.
				
				That is the foolishness of the “super-scientist,” the 
				technician, the Illuminati, the people in these Black-Op 
				projects that think that they can decide for the rest of the 
				planet.
				
				Surely we’re deciding as we’re building underground bases so 
				we’ll survive as we go into the galactic plane. They’re not 
				going to survive, because I can guarantee you that the Council 
				will not allow them to survive, no matter what they do, if 
				there’s not a transition of their heart.
				
				It’s the exact same message that Yeshua Ha'Mashiach Jesus gave 
				which is: Unless your hearts are changed, your world will die. 
				OK?
				
				KC: Yes.
				
				BR: And that’s what’s at stake right now.
				
				BD: That’s what’s at stake. We’re talking about not just the 
				death of the person that they call “omnicide,” not just the 
				death of the family, not just the death of the nation, not just 
				the death of mankind or every living thing, but the death of the 
				spiritual entities that are incarnated into the beings here on 
				this world.
				
				It’s literally a spiritual abortion that’s being done on the 
				planet, and if you see the transdimensionals, the 
				Satanic/Luciferic transdimensionals, they have harassed, and 
				intervened, and abducted.
				
				And people say: Well, why does the 
				
				abductions phenomenon seem so 
				malicious? It’s because they’re demonic. I mean, you might not 
				use the term demonic from the Bible, but in every culture you’ll 
				find these things going on.
				
				And they’re intensifying, including you know... Not only are our 
				vehicles up there, like 
				
				the TR3 which are these giant triangles, 
				and the Aurora and other ones, but there’s a ton of these other 
				vehicles because they’re here watching, for the show. They’re 
				here for the show.
				
				They’re here in the birthing room waiting to see if there’s 
				going to be a delivery or an abortion of the planet. OK? That’s 
				what’s going on. OK?
				
				KC: Yes.
				
				BD: And they need to grasp that it’s not going to happen by a 
				change in politics, or a president, or monetary policy. It’s 
				going to happen with a change of the heart.
				
				For example, let me give you one example of solution. Why do we 
				have a world that can allow usury, which is interest? Why do we 
				allow derivatives? Why do we allow a group of people who can 
				control and manipulate money that causes starvation, where 60% 
				of the cost of food is due to manipulation? And then they make 
				bad policies suppressing energy technology, so that people 
				literally can’t truck the food in third-world countries, so they 
				can’t make themselves independent, and they starve to death?
				
				Or in places like North Korea, we demonize people so that they 
				then literally exhume their own dead and eat them, which is what 
				they’ve had to do. OK?
				
				And people do not know the depths of how far this is going to go 
				unless there’s a transformation of the heart. It has to happen 
				immediately.
				
				And I’m called as a Witness of Ephraim, and I’m called up today 
				to be a Witness of Yehuda. OK?
				
				The Jews now... and the Jewish people are by and large mostly 
				agnostic, or what I call... They belong to synagogues that are 
				basically either spiritually dead because they don’t connect 
				with the true reality of this.
				
				There’s a very tiny fraction of real Torah Jews who understand 
				what’s going on, and there are some there who are Rabbis who 
				know what’s going on and are fearful because they see the coming 
				second holocaust. And I went through Yad V’Shem.
				
				And it’s not just the holocaust of the death of the last of the 
				Jews. It’s the death of all humanity that’s coming.
				
				And then they’re conspiring this through their 
				transdimensionals, the serpentine, these civilizations out there 
				that are hell-bent on destroying mankind.
				
				They’re conspiring with these world leaders, who are literally 
				their minions - 
				George Bush Sr., and 
				
				George Soros, and the 
				
				Blackstone Group, and all those other organizations are just 
				their minions.
				
				And many of them think: Oh, I’m going to get life extension 
				technology. I’m going to survive whatever’s coming. I’m going to 
				get a 50,000-acre farm in Paraguay. Lies!
				
				Or: I’m going to survive in these underground places. When 
				they’re hit with a force 11 or 12 earthquake that will shatter 
				all their tunnels, no they’re not. They’re going to be entombed 
				into those places.
				
				BR: It’s a good message to give the guys from the Black-Ops who 
				will be watching this.
				
				BD: Right. They need to understand that I walk. They can’t stop 
				me. I can instantly walk into spirit, into any of their places 
				without any way of stopping me. OK?
				
				BR: Mm.
				
				BD: We are The Sons of the Most High God. It’s not just me 
				- it’s all of us - and Daughters of the Most High God. We need to 
				start taking our authority back, because agnosticism, atheism is 
				just another form of Luciferianism. It is “I am God; I can 
				decide what’s good or evil.”
				
				And we need to get away from all religions, and enter back into 
				spirituality with the Creator. We need to fall down on our face 
				and say: Yes, I am here because I signed up for this.
				
				BR: Now, here’s a question. This will probably be watched by a 
				few tens of thousands of people.
				
				BD: Right.
				
				BR: A few tens of thousands of wonderful people, and every 
				single one of those people is critically important here.
				
				BD: Right.
				
				BR: Is that enough? It’s a tiny fraction of humanity.
				
				BD: Yeah. The real issue, and it’s almost exactly like the 
				message that was given by Yeshua, Jesus. His message... He had a 
				message that was given to the general...
				
				Just like when I do my regular radio show, I talk about: Hey! 
				
				Don’t vaccinate your child, because these vaccines have been 
				determined by globalists that want to poison your children with 
				vaccines, and I show them the technical truth.
				
				But it’s harder for them to accept the fact that the vaccines, 
				like in sub-Saharan Africa, have plasmids to destroy and cause 
				infertility. Or the Guardisil vaccine now.
				
				I got contacted by Desiree Rover just Friday night. She has a 
				radio show in the Netherlands. She used my material and many 
				others to kind of reference in her radio show to tell people: 
				Hey, this is a policy by globalists to sterilize little girls 
				and destroy their health. Right?
				
				And they’re testing vaccines on populations that have no idea of 
				what they’re signing up for. And some of them get multiple 
				vaccines and they’re malnourished and it destroys their health 
				and kills them. Many of them die.
				
				KC: Yes.
				
				BD: It’s very hard for them to conceive that and then to go to 
				the next stage. If they listen to all my shows and they listen 
				to this message...
				
				I released three chapters of the scroll, and there’s twelve 
				chapters altogether. The first chapter I released in 1999, which 
				was a warning against America, which I delivered to 42 cities in 
				Israel.
				
				The second chapter of the scroll I released in 2005 at Pastor 
				Butch Paugh’s Conference. And the third chapter of the scroll, 
				which was tied to my talk at Conspiracy-Con 2008, I released 
				this May.
				
				I didn’t get a chance to read the scroll but if you go to 
				ClayandIron.com you can pull up those PowerPoints and those 
				scrolls. And I’m going to have that, as well as what’s called 
				the “Prayer of the Twelve Stones.”
				
				People need to grasp this in their spirit. It needs to ring the 
				bell, just like when you go to a Buddhist temple and you can 
				feel the vibration of the truth. It’s something spoken truthful.
				
				What we’re speaking tonight is not just wisdom and not just 
				knowledge. It’s what I call spirit words. It’s words that need 
				to ring their spirit no matter what religious background or lack 
				of it, to know how desperately bad the times are.
				
				We’re not just looking at a depression here. We’re looking at 
				the prelude to a financial collapse that’s a prelude to a false 
				peace treaty that is the startup of a guaranteed thermonuclear, 
				biological, chemical and scalar war that will destroy all life 
				on this planet.
				
				BR: And what’s the time scale? What would the time scale be for 
				this?
				
				BD: I don’t have all the answers at this point in time.
				
				BR: Sure. Give your best guess.
				
				BD: But I can give you some of the signs. The first thing... 
				The signs basically are this: When they divide the city of 
				Jerusalem, they - Jewish Rabbis, and this is Rabbinical Law - have to have all the elements, the Kalal, the Ashes of the Red 
				Heifer.
				
				They have to have the Cohanim, and all the instruments. They can 
				set up a tabernacle overnight. They have everything, Sea Cows, 
				and curtains and everything. They can put it on the Temple Mount 
				in one evening. OK?
				
				But once they start that sacrifice, which has to happen on the 
				Feast of David, that starts the final clock ticking. That clock 
				will start on that day. And exactly 1230 days later is the Feast 
				of Purim, which goes back to hamen.
				
				And people say: Well, why would these things be encoded? Like 
				the Bible coded in the Bible? It’s because you’re hearing Voice 
				and Intentions from the highest Creator of the universe that’s 
				speaking down through the higher dimensional planes to our world 
				that imprints on a supernatural book that transcends time and 
				space, which is in the Bible.
				
				That’s why the Bible code’s there. People say: Well, why are 
				those things there? It’s there because it transcends the 
				dimensional planes of time-space because it’s beyond time-space.
				
				BR: Yes. But the Illuminati know all this. They’ve already got 
				this.
				
				BD: Well, they’re trying to steer the timeline away from its 
				intention. Because the future is not solid - it’s liquid.
				
				BR: Sure.
				
				BD: We have a role to play here. And when I was brought to the 
				Council, they were saying, you know, you need to take this 
				seriously.
				
				It’s not written. It’s not determined at this point in 
				existence, or revelation of the spirit, what will be that 
				pathway, whether we will go into a birthing room and have a 
				wonderful delivery of mankind, or whether we will have an 
				annihilation of the human race. Or something in between, where a 
				great deal of destruction occurs and a tiny remnant survives.
				
				
				KC: So why are you here in Oceanside, for example?
				
				BD: I don’t completely know. I know one of the purposes is to be 
				here.